YTSEJAM Digest 4463
Today's Topics:
1) Re: New Eldritch CD
by "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
2) RH Factor - Rodler/Hultberg
by "=?iso-8859-1?q?R=D6NNQVIST,?= GREGER" <GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE>
3) METAL EDGE READER'S POLL!!!
by IceQD@aol.com
4) Classic music / Pirate CDs 'n stuff
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
5) Prepare to DIE (Part II)
by Xanadu Records <rsch1@idt.net>
6) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Greg_Howe=B4s_La_Villa_Strangiato_?=
by "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfqc@nl1.telmex.net.mx>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4462
by AyameYuki@aol.com
8) Dream Theater Needs Your Vote
by Greg1680@aol.com
9) Re: XMAS and DT
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4462
by Rick Barkhouse <rbarkhouse@objectpeople.com>
11) Re: Prepare to DIE
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
12) New Jordan Rudess MP3
by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
13) Powermad 1997 & 1998 Promo CD's?
by MTeiper@aol.com
14) Re: Dream Theater Needs Your Vote
by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
15) Re: Powermad 1997 & 1998 Promo CD's?
by <dthomas@best.com>
16) Quake music
by schnapster@juno.com (Dale R Newberry)
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:08:08 +1100
From: "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: New Eldritch CD
Message-ID: <004601be1ab7$06a58240$1c6716cb@graham>
Sorry about the html crap in my last post.
I foolishly used Outlook Express and didn't realise that I
sent the message with that garbage :)
GaZ
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 13:45 +0100
From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?R=D6NNQVIST,?= GREGER" <GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: RH Factor - Rodler/Hultberg
Message-ID: <199811281245.AlfX@memo-smtp.sto.sema.se>
--- Inkommet fr=E5n INFODATA.SVA0193 +46 670 160 60 98-11-28 13.45
RH FACTOR - Rodler / Hultberg USA
1998
PMM
PMM0300
Speltid: 49:30 minuter
1. Behold the Blue Sky
2. Sign of a Mystic Moon
3. Extrinsic
4. Miracle of Great Device
5. Lifetime
6. No Sale's Final (Instrumental)
7. Game of Chance
8. Handed Down
9. Winter in July
CHRIS RODLER - Rytm/Lead Gitarr
BRETT RODLER - Trummor, Percussion
KEVIN HULTBERG - Bas, S=E5ng
RH Factor =E4r ett prog-metal band fr=E5n USA. Dom =E4r influerade av
band som Rush, Yes, Dream Theater, The Police och Saga. I grunden
ligger ocks=E5 influenser fr=E5n Megadeth, Slayer och King Diamond.
Dom =E4r mycket tekniskt skickliga musiker p=E5 gr=E4nsen till genier.
Kanske har du h=F6rt Chris Rodler och Brett Rodler i det fantastiska
bandet Leger de Main d=E4r dom =E4r tv=E5 tredjedelar. Det h=E4r =E4r Ch=
ris
och Bretts sidoprojekt till Leger de Main. Medlemmarna i RH Factor
hade ocks=E5 ett band under tidigt nittiotal som hette Drama.
S=E5ngaren Kevin l=E5ter som en blandning av John Wetton, Greg Lake,
Graham Bonnett och Sting. Trummisen =E4r influerad av Mickey Dee
fr=E5n King Diamond.
Tre album som har influerat RH Factor under arbetet med den h=E4r
skivan =E4r Dream Theater's "When Dream And Day Unite", King
Crimson's "Discipline" och "Drama" med Yes.
F=F6r mer information kontakta: Progressive Music Management, 6802
Helena Drive, Erie, PA 16510. Eller skicka ett E-Mail till bandet:
lenrod@aol.com.
-Recenserad av Greger R=F6nnqvist-
Email: greger.ronnqvist@infodata.sema.se
Snail Mail: Greger Ronnqvist
Risselasvagen 66 B
833 35 Stromsund
Sweden
ICQ No: 17275819
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 07:51:45 EST
From: IceQD@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: METAL EDGE READER'S POLL!!!
Message-ID: <741b4786.365ff1e1@aol.com>
Hey guys!
I visited the url for this poll yesterday
www.mtledge.com/13reader98.htm
Does anyone know when the closing date is?
Thanks
Ice Queen
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:03:33 +0100
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Classic music / Pirate CDs 'n stuff
Message-ID: <365FD885.B580C823@mol.com.mk>
> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:22:20 +0200
> From: "TSM" <tonimaki@dlc.fi>
> Subject: Classical music and CD-R copies
>
> CyberDuke:
> >Just one word:
> >PACO DE LUCIA
> Hm. Three words, I'd say. Or was it a triplet word, mayhaps? ;)
Heck, I just knew it that someone will comment that "one word"!!!!! :)
But someone else said "Because of this kinda comments I love Ytsejam"!
Huh, welcome to Twilight Zone! :)
> >WHY classical music is considered BEST music of all?
>
> Did I say that classical music was superior to any other music?
> Don't try to put words in my mouth. Maybe you should reread my mail.
> Anyway, maybe you weren't referring to me when you wrote this
> mail, but were just making a complaint in general. Then I'll
> apologise. Otherwise I won't.
OK, after a long struggle in your mind you finally got it! Woohoo! Yes,
I was commenting in general, and none of my words were poining at you!
And yeah, I like your story about it, but there are still folks out
there who'll try to persuade us the opposite! :)
> Legal copies obviously are The Good, cause the artists and record
> companies have certain rights to their material. Bootlegs are in
> the gray area. The bootleggers are usually die-hard fans who
> distribute stuff that otherwise would never be heard. But the artists
> don't get any profit from these records and they can't decide what
> stuff comes out on a bootleg, so boots are The Ugly. Pirate copies
> are The Bad. People who do pirate copies have no respect at all for
> the artists or their rights. They're in it only for the money. No
> matter what you do you can't justify the making, or buying of
> these things, because it's pure stealing and nothing more. Period.
OK, we know all that!
But I was talking about the QUALITY of the bootlegs and purate CDs
too!?!?!
Friend who worked in CDreapri shop said that pirate CDs destroy the
laser after a while
But yesterady I got angry speaking with a friend on a phone about these
maters. HE said: "Get outta here? I never heard anyone's CDplayer dies
because of the Bulgarian pirate CDs!!! Get off my back, YOU tell me
what's better: You'll buy 3 CDs with 100$ and I'll buy 25 with the same
money! SO?"
And most of the folks think having the money as a law to behave accoring
it!
Personally, I prefer original ones, but it really hurts when you see
Fire Garden for 2$! :(
SO, my question is: Is there any other reason for not buying pirate CDs
except the moral side?
> From: "chris" <cherbst@usa.net>
> Subject: Jazz Prog=Fusion
>
> Any other cool Jazz-Prog bands out there I should check out?
Return To Forever, Brand X, Chad Wackerman, Jeff Beck, Trilok Gurtu
> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:23:48 GMT
> From: "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
>
> While I'm here: I'd just like to diss "Under A Glass Moon". IT'S
> FUCKING LOUSY, YOU DAFT BUGGERS!!!!!!! It's the weakest track DT
> have ever produced. It sounds spasmodically disjointed
Wow, wow, wow! :)
And wow again!
--CyberDuke _______________________________________________________ Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail duskob@mol.com.mk ICQ# 17392722 _______________________________________________________
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:56:18 -0500 From: Xanadu Records <rsch1@idt.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Prepare to DIE (Part II) Message-ID: <36601D22.1F28@idt.net>
> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:19:42 -0700 > From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> > To: ytsejam@axnet.net > Subject: Prepare to DIE
> 5. Eddie van Halen ( face it, he invented modern rock guitar ) > 4. Joe Satriani ( 'cos whatever EVH forgot, Satch didn't ) > 3. Jimmy Page ( ...I mean, where do you begin? ) > 2. John Petrucci ( the perfect mix of 5, 4, and 1 ) > 1. David Gilmour ( the sound...the phrasing...the material...)
First of all, music is SUBJECTIVE, so a Top 5 is just OPENING yourself to get flamed. BUT, since we're on a Top 5 kick, here's mine: 5. Steve Howe (Just listen to Yessongs, "The Mouse" ROCKS!) 4. Tony Iomi (Less Is More personified, and he's missing part of a finger!) 3. Steve Vai (ALL feel, this guy is INCREDIBLE live!) 2. Stevie Ray Vaughan (Those who never saw him live missed out...) 1. Steve Morse (Best All Around player ever, IMHO, won the award 5 times in Guitar Player Magazine)
Honorable Mention: Jimi Hendrix - What else can you say? John Petrucci - Heir Apparent Al Dimeola - If it wasn't for him, where would Yngwie have gotten his chops from? Jeff Beck - If it wasn't for him, there wouldn't be a "Satch"
Dishonorable Mention: Kirk Hammett - This guy flat out SUX, and I'm a Metallica fan..... Jimmy Page - Sounds like a 2 year old with a broken arm Eddie Van Halen - A perfect case of what can happen when your head gets too big
I'm putting on my flame-retardant gear now..... -- John DiBella President/Xanadu Records http://idt.net/~rsch1/index.html
Dream Theater Tourdate Archive http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/grunge/49/DreamT.html
* In the stream of consciuosness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit, we're dying *
Dream Theater
* Be EXCELLENT to each other! *
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:10:42 -0600 From: "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfqc@nl1.telmex.net.mx> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Greg_Howe=B4s_La_Villa_Strangiato_?= Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981128101042.007a3980@nl1.telmex.net.mx>
Check the new album of Greg Howe, on this page you can find some ra audio samples. Also you will notice that one of the samples is " La Villa Strangiato " http://www.greghowe.com/sample.html
The line up: Drums - Jon Doman Keyboards - Vitalij Kuprij Guitars & Bass - Greg Howe
album Ascend
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:07:07 EST From: AyameYuki@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4462 Message-ID: <5841d887.36602dbb@aol.com>
<A HREF="http://www.findmail.com/list/musiciansinfluence/">FindMail: musiciansinfluence</A> <A HREF="http://www.findmail.com/list/musiciansfeedback/">FindMail: musiciansfeedback</A> <A HREF="http://www.egroups.com/list/theaternow/"> THeater Now</A> <A HREF="http://www.egroups.com/index.html">artsymayhem</A>
hey everybody ! i made up these mailing lists ( and yes, you will find the mirror on there too ! ) for any bands,music, concert news, martial arts , sports, whatever, miscellaneous stuff . this is about hmm...about the 15th time ive posted these links. what does it take for you blind people to visit a free mailing list > its ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE THEMIRROR AND YTSEJAM. so come on! VISIT! AND PS> POST SOMETHING> IM SICK OF HEARING " OH I DELETED IT< CAN YOU SEND IT AGAIN ". so get some reading glasses and stop deleting it for once!
( this is how i felt last night, so dont take it personally if i did not IM you last night. )
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:25:02 EST From: Greg1680@aol.com To: Lystar666@aol.com, ConAndy@aol.com, RoguePoet8@aol.com, DSherinian@aol.com, Subject: Dream Theater Needs Your Vote Message-ID: <f80aaac9.366031ee@aol.com>
Dream Theater needs out help Fill this out and please try to vote for Dream Theater for as most as the catagories as you can Remember: Derek Sherinian KeyBoards John Petrucci Guitar John Myung Bass Mike Portnoy Drums James LaBrie Vocals Latest Albums- Falling Into Infinity or Once In a Live Time Latest Single- I believe it was Hollow Years or Burning my Soul ( But who since We rarely hear them on the radio or eMpTyV) Their Latest Tour was "Touring Into Infinity" <A HREF="http://www.mtledge.com/13reader98.htm">Click here: 13th Annual METAL EDGE READER'S CHOICE AWARDS</A> Please help a tremendous band get the Credit They Deserve
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 13:55:55 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: XMAS and DT Message-ID: <199811281855.NAA13368@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>
> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:30:57 -0800 > From: rockercat <cherylcat@earthlink.net> > To: ytsejam@axnet.net > Subject: XMAS and DT > Message-ID: <365F281F.7BC9C086@earthlink.net> > > > I never, ever thought I'd admit this, but I am sooooooooo glad that > this year I'll be hanging with the in-laws in Connecticut over the > holidays!! Just oredered my tix for the New Haven show, so watch > out New England cuz here I come!!! :-)
Well, welcome to New England in December, home of the yearly DT shows :) Just ordered mine for New Haven yesterday, am hoping to make it to Birch Hill, and _maybe_ even Irving Plaza, myself... :)
-- +------------------------------------------+-----------------------+ | A daily dose of eMpTyV | Dream Theater | | will flush you mind right down the drain | Falling Into Infinity | | --- taken from: Just Let Me Breathe --- | In Stores NOW!! | +------------------------------------------+-----------------------+ Michael Burstin: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu Oh my God, they've killed Kenny!! http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/ Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email: http://www.cauce.org
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 15:02:39 -0400 From: Rick Barkhouse <rbarkhouse@objectpeople.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4462 Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981128150239.007c4990@mail.objectpeople.com>
Eckie wrote: >Yer right on the second count. Our good buddy from White Zombie, yes, >that lovable, huggable little hell hound himself, Rob Zombie was the >"musical consultant" for the Q2 staff. I know for sure it was him who >did that little intro scene music where the marine's flying around like >an Arizona driver in a spaceship, but i'm not really sure who composed >the actual game music. It might be Rob himself on that too. *shrug*
The band that did the actual game music for Q2 was Sonic Mayhem. A little simplistic, but pretty cool. I think they have a few MP3s at [ http://www.sonicmayhem.com ]
========================================================== Rick Barkhouse <rbarkhouse@objectpeople.com>
Visit my new Quake 2 page: [ http://dragon.acadiau.ca/~015691b/Quake2.html ]
"Through nature's inflexible grace, I'm learning to live." - Dream Theater ==========================================================
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:38:34 -0600 (CST) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Prepare to DIE Message-ID: <19981128152438741@ix.netcom.com>
The great Eckmaster yelled as a giant sloth grabbed his nads:
<<AND HE HAS LONG (well, in comparison to Satch or James Hetfield) HAIR!>>
Heehhehehe, not anymore! Take a look at some of the shots from the NAMM show that happened a while back. They're on that Unofficial Petrucci page. Mustve been a great show....Satch, Vai, Petrucci, AND Gilbert on the same stage playing at the same time!
Matt
===================================================== "A daily dose of eMpTyV "Following our instinct will flush your mind not a trend. Go against right down the drain." the grain until the end." -Dream Theater -Metallica =====================================================
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 13:54:07 -0800 From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com> To: <Undisclosed.Recipients@sparc3.castles.com> Subject: New Jordan Rudess MP3 Message-ID: <000501be1b19$b53786c0$56a4d6d0@multimedia>
I just put up a new Jordan Rudess Mp3 that he played live when i met him in S.F. Christian Martirano is behind the key percussions. Enjoy and Happy Holidays!
peace, --james-- www.jamesthorpe.com mail@jamesthorpe.com
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:27:20 EST From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Powermad 1997 & 1998 Promo CD's? Message-ID: <913abb7d.366078c8@aol.com>
Hey all -
Just got my latest issue of Metal Maniacs, and there's a really cool article about Powermad 1998. Anyway, from what I understand, there was a promo compilation CD of Powermad bands for this year, and for last year as well. If anyone out there has either or both of these, could you do me a big favor and pass along the track lists of these, or at least direct me to a web page where I can find the info out? The article has me pumped up to hear a few of the bands that performed, and I remember some time ago, there was a review here on the Jam praising the same bands. If the track lists look good, I may be in the market for trading for/buying original copies of the 1997 and/or 1998 CD's, or at least maybe CDR copies. Anyway, if anyone can give me any info, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!!
- Matt T.
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:32:11 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Dream Theater Needs Your Vote Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9811282330510.6810-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
On Sat, 28 Nov 1998 Greg1680@aol.com wrote:
> Dream Theater needs out help Fill this out and please try to vote for Dream > Theater for as most as the catagories as you can > Remember: Derek Sherinian KeyBoards
<snip>
I DO think most of us know that stuff already!
> Please help a tremendous band get the Credit They Deserve
Since this topic has been discussed before I won't go on with the discussion...
Cheers
Zaphod
============================================================================== Peter Geerts *QUOTE* zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be "HELP!" (The Beatles) ICQ: 13122363 Second Year's Political Sciences Student, Leuven University, Belgium President JVS Orion Mechelen Youth Astronomers Club, Belgium ==============================================================================
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:44:19 -0800 (PST) From: <dthomas@best.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Powermad 1997 & 1998 Promo CD's? Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9811281440210.16574-100000@fpage2.ba.best.com>
Well, I'm sure that many of the people that attended Powermad would be interested in letting you know all about the CD, but I don't know of anyone that attended this year's show that has received their CD. I mean, the show was only in August, so you could see why almost four months later the CDs would still not be out. I mean, someone would actually have to put forth some sort of effort and actually put the CDs in the mail or something. That's a lot to ask.
Seriously, if I ever get a CD, I'll be reviewing it on Pixel Planet. There's a really long article about Powermad there if you're interested in reading it. Just go to www.pixelplanet.com and go to the Music page, and you'll find a link there.
DT np: Carisma - 1825 (and it's not too bad)
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:57:29 -0600 From: schnapster@juno.com (Dale R Newberry) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Quake music Message-ID: <19981128.170000.6510.0.schnapster@juno.com>
I do believe it was Trent Reznor that did the music for Quake 1. I can only assume he did the same for Q2, but I'm not real sure. IF you do notice, there is a NIN logo on the boxes of nails for the nailguns in Quake 1.
Dale R. Newberry
NP: Everdown "Straining"
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