YTSEJAM Digest 4318
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4317
by Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk>
2) Dream Theater day SHOW in Italy
by MASONI Luca <Luca.Masoni@omnitel.it>
3) misc
by Madsag@aol.com
4) Powermad(dening) query
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
5) Hurricane Georges In Puerto Rico.
by jralat@coqui.net
6) Ytsejam T-Shirts ...
by Ryan P Skadberg <skadz@mindstorm.com>
7) King's X Fans in Washington, D.C.
by Ryan Park <rpark@space-dye.com>
8) My Web Site/DTC (live)
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
9) The Yngwie discussion
by 101473.2404@compuserve.com
10) Yngwie - FTA , Jethro Tull
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
11) Welcome back Mike!
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
12) ET sound clip
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
13) Once In A LIVEtime front cover
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
14) Take Away My Pain
by Nshsunsfan@aol.com
15) Re: Once In A LIVEtime front cover
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
16) Re: Yngwie - FTA , Jethro Tull
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
17) acos
by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:59:12 +0100 (BST)
From: Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4317
Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-1005105912-0b0rZWN@mor.apsoft.co.uk>
> From: NikBrooks@aol.com
> Subject: Rocking in the UK
>
> Classic Rock is edited by Jerry Ewing and Dave Ling.
Awesome. Dave Ling used to be totally pro-DT back when he wrote for RAW,
and Jerry Ewing has written some very complimentary DT reviews recently for
Metal Hammer.
This magazine will be cool. :-)
> From: Portnoy420@aol.com
> Subject: LIVEtime
>
> Wasn't that Talking Heads tune called Once in a LIFEtime???
> That is a common expression...NOT invented by David Byrne...
> I was playing on the word LIFE, and changed it to LIVE...
There's a live album called "Once in a Lifetime" by Runrig, a Scottish band
who seem to be popular in Germany for some reason. :-) It's rock with a
strong Celtic flavour . . . the lyrics are a mixture of English and Gaelic.
It's worth checking out for an awesome live rocked-up rendition of the
classic Scottish folk song "Loch Lomond", with a super singalong chorus.
Graham
-- Graham Borland Email : gborland@apsoft.co.uk WWW : http://www.apsoft.co.uk Alternative Publishing Ltd Tel : 0141 418 0881 30 Clyde Place, Glasgow G5 8AQ Fax : 0141 418 0889------------------------------
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:53:36 +0200 From: MASONI Luca <Luca.Masoni@omnitel.it> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Dream Theater day SHOW in Italy Message-ID: <81FB1A684FF8D011A2A90020AFC5710DA8D900@omin058.omnitel.it>
Hi guys... On first I have to say that my english is not so good ( spaghetti englisch ) so I apologize before starting this message for my licteral errors. My name is luca ( no ... i don't live on the second floor ) and I'm the bass player of a group called 'Onde Rock'. We live and play in Milano ( Italy ) since 1995 ( I mean that we start playng togheter three years ago not that I'm three years old.... of course ). We play foundamentally DT tunes. Well .... we were invited to play for the DT day by the Italian Dreamers ( DT fans club ) that took place in Curno (BG) 03-OCT-98. It was an incredible experience....I tink that there was about 600 people listening and we were so exited.... We play in a very very good way... All the guys from audience sings for all the during of the show. Those are the tunes we play:
Mission impossible Erotomania/Pull me under Silent man The mirror Another day Peruvian sky/Enter sandman The big medley Wait for sleep Sourrounded Under a glass moon
I have recorded all the show with my handycam and I have already made a CD with a very good sound quality. Soon I place the MP3 version of the show on my home page (http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/9010/) Pictures of the show are accessible at http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/collins/386/dt/dtday.htm . I hope that we could do that another time in the future. For question write to mailto:onderock@usa.net . see ya soon
Luca Masoni WWW: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/9010/
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:14:47 EDT From: Madsag@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: misc Message-ID: <9db98965.3618b837@aol.com>
simon who likes to do drawrings wrote:
<< Not only is it cool and progressive sounding it also has a bit a classical based theory behind it (very prog), because the kick drums is outlining the main accents of the military style snare rolls that can be heard just before it (minus 1 accent I think) sort of like repetition between instruments in an orchestra. It is for this reason that I really like drummers like MP and a lot of jazz and fusion drummers, because they treat the drums as an instrument and not a time keeper. >>
i think i know exactly what youre talking about. FII just peels apart like an onion for you the more times you listen to it and the closer you pay attention. similar to how i hear QR's Promised Land. everytime i listen to it i hear something new.
on the technical side: 1. Nik, your posts are showing up twice each time you post for some reason.
2. Mike, your post made it through.
josh rasiel please email your address so i can send you a check. =)
anyone else blown away by ticketmaster's service charges lately? ive bought a lot of tickets recently and i am just STUNNED at the amount of extra money they are getting out of me. its ridiculous. for every 2 tickets i buy im spending close to 20 bucks more in service charges. fucking THIEVES.
- melissa - madsag@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 09:42:41 -0400 From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Powermad(dening) query Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981005094241.0077a598@pop.wam.umd.edu>
Has *anybody* received their 3-CD compilation set from Keith Menser? It's been over a month since the festival...
Brian "Slightly Peeved" Henderson
=================================== Name: W. Brian Henderson, Esq. Contact: hender@wam.umd.edu ROBOT-CENTRAL: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/ His Faithful Bootleg Page: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/Musik/Boot/ ===================================
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:44:35 +300 From: jralat@coqui.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hurricane Georges In Puerto Rico. Message-ID: <3618bf33.2c39.0@coqui.net>
I just comunication back to the net! I'm a DT fan from Puerto Rico, and boy did Georges did a number on us! I got power back just 5 days ago and still have no water. At least I''m alive, and most important, my DT cd's survived. Infact thats all I did during the weeks after the hurricane, plug my bass to my Ibanez Rock n' Play and practice on my DT songs. If it wasn't for DT I would probably have gone crazy. Thanks guys, you have made me very happy on some not so happy times for my island. Anyways because of that damn hurricane Van Halen could not do their show which was scheduled the night before the storm, but they'll be back...hopefully. And on a final note, I read on the DT's official web page that Mike Portnoy said that DT is probably coming down to Puerto Rico...CAN ANYBODY CONFIRM THAT PLEASE!!!
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:56:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan P Skadberg <skadz@mindstorm.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ytsejam T-Shirts ... Message-ID: <13848.53267.345003.125323@optical.mindstorm.com>
As Joshua mentioned in one of the recent jams he is currently selling new (v4!) Ytsejam T-Shirts. I just wanted to give a HUGE recommendation for these. I got my last week and I love it. Not only is it a great t-shirt, but its a great icebreaker. I bet there are at least twenty or thiry people on this list who I have seen wearing Ytsejam-wear at shows and I have gone right up to them and been like, "Hey! You on the list? Who are you?" So, just wanted to say, go order one of these now.
Skadz
PS - NO, Josh is not giving me ANYTHING to do this, I just really like the shirt :P
-- Ryan Skadberg | "there's a space beside us Ytsejam Moderator | and there's miles between us skadz@dreamt.org | and all around us http://www.dreamt.org/ | grows this shade of gray" | _A Pleasant Shade of Gray_ - Fates Warning
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Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 10:14:48 -0400 From: Ryan Park <rpark@space-dye.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: King's X Fans in Washington, D.C. Message-ID: <199810051406.KAA00564@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
Hey...
Is anyone in the Washington D.C. area going to the King's X show at Jaxx on Wednesday? Anyone able to give a lift to a couple of college Ytsejammers? It's getting kinda late and we still have no (inexpensive) way to get there...
Thanks in advance,
Ryan
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Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 16:58:55 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: My Web Site/DTC (live) Message-ID: <3618ECBF.953FAA35@mol.com.mk>
I just want you inform that I have finally finished my Web Site! For everyone interested in. :)
DTC: I got on my site story about my experiences on the Dream Theater concert in Budapest on 16 June this year. I also have many photos there, from the gig, from autographs session etc. Go check it out!
The whole site: http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/
or just the DTC: http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/dream.html
Also, I would like to ask you to sign my guestbook please! :) I'll be glad to hear your comments/remarks etc. Thank you!
CyberDuke
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:26:18 -0400 From: 101473.2404@compuserve.com To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The Yngwie discussion Message-ID: <199810051130_MC2-5B99-7C01@compuserve.com>
After abandoning the idea to ever understand how people sweep-pick appreggios O wrote: And the solos, they really suck. Well, he's fast (the fastest and most stabile guy I've heard...), but speed doesn't make that profound feeling and melody a good solo has (JP/Vai/Satch/Gilmour etc etc etc).
To O: Well, Mister O, the above statement sounds like a pathetic excuse of a loser, who would give his right hand to play half as fast as Yngwie does, but just can't get past playing pentatonic straignt eights over a 35 tempo! Piece of advice: leave Yngwie alone, and go offer your services to your local alterno-outfit, or even better, just shut up and go practise those scales you talk so much about. It will sure do you some good. Oh, and if you're such a connoisseur of neo-classical metal, name a one single half-decent band in this genre which does not have a shredder in it (and who doesn't sound like he salivated over "rising force" while attending primary school). I will sure be interested to know who they are!
To Everyone else: "Facing the Animal" is indeed the best Yngwie album of the last 10 years. So if you want to check out neo-classical metal's most ingenious and effective guitarist (hell, he invented this style): FIND IT, GRAB IT, then put it in your CD player and get a hint of what neo-classical shred is all about.
Amen to that, Denis.
P.S. And please take note that the only one I'm flaming here is O. P.P.S. And O, if you think that there is one single ounce of emotion in what Steve Vai is playing, then I strongly urge you to contact either your shrink or an ear therapist ASAP......
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Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 17:30:09 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Yngwie - FTA , Jethro Tull Message-ID: <3618F411.94F8D45C@mol.com.mk>
> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 03:26:01 -0700 > From: "O" <red_barchetta@mailcity.com> > Subject: Re: Awesome recordings! (Yngwie) > > >From: liquidrich@webtv.net > >Subject: Awesome recordigs! > > >For all the jammers who like good music check out the following: > >Yngwie Malmsteen "Facing the Animal" -this has Cozy Powell > > Cozy Powell... who cares? Yngwie always buys the best musicians > available - he's had Barry Sparks, Shane Galaas, Jens Johansson, > Mats Olausson, Barriemore Barlow and a pack of others.
Whow, whow, what's that? If I'm correct, Barriemore Barlow was Jethro Tull member!!! What is a Jethro Tull member doing with Yngwie ? :)
Someone?...
CyberDuke
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Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 17:33:20 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Welcome back Mike! Message-ID: <3618F4D0.1C4A05DC@mol.com.mk>
Holy smokin' ..... Mike replied to ME, my mortal me! ;) YEAH!!!!!
> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 01:17:47 EDT > From: Portnoy420@aol.com > Subject: LIVEtime > > somebody seyz: > (sorry, I didn't note who.....)
It was me! :) > <<<And the stuff with DT's title of the live album: it's cool! Coping, > cheating means, IMHO, somehting you take and try to hide, presenting > it's your own. But in this case I see it as cool! DT KNOWS that everyone > knows this is TH song title. So what's the big deal? It's cool title for > live album.>>>> > > Wasn't that Talking Heads tune called Once in a LIFEtime??? > That is a common expression...NOT invented by David Byrne... > I was playing on the word LIFE, and changed it to LIVE...
I thought everyone knows the song, so I didn't really made it 100% clear that the original is LIFE and you put it LIVE! :) So it was you, you jokster! :)
> If I'm wrong, then call me a thief!!!
Nah, you're cool! ;)
> But still check out the album (and even better...the video!).... > > Mike Portnoy
Did ya ever doubt it? We're not that bad. We might have stupid DTC sometimes, but that's all! ;)
CyberDuke
P.S. Yo Mike, I have very cool photo of yours. If you would just be so kind to see it and leave me a note in my guestbook... :))) Woohoo!
Go to: http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/budapics.html
PLEASE!!!!! :)
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Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 18:03:40 -0700 From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ET sound clip Message-ID: <36196C6C.5253@fh-niederrhein.de>
Hi guys
Just want to tell you that I've uploaded a new EMPTY TREMOR sound clip (demo version of a brand new song) on the Fan Club site. Check it out.
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1794/
The songs is a beautiful ballde called "Lost In The Past". If you like ET's "Rules Of Time" or DT's "Wait For Sleep" you probebly will love this song too !
NP : Arena - The Visitor <-- One of the best concept albums ever.
Arash -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | PROG OR DIE - The Progressive Music Page | | | | DREAM THEATER - FATES WARNING - ROYAL HUNT - SHADOW GALLERY | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1748/ | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | The Eyes Of Universe - The Official EMPTY TREMOR Fan Club Site | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1794/ | | | | by Arash and Arman Ashouriha email: ashouria@kr.fh-niederrhein.de | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 18:04:29 -0700 From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Once In A LIVEtime front cover Message-ID: <36196C9D.51D7@fh-niederrhein.de>
Hi
Take a look at http://www.onceinalifetime.com
There, under "Discography" you can see the front cover of "Once In A LIVEtime" 2CD.
The picture is strange but very cool. I like it. There is a new DT font which is by the way, the worst DT font I've seen.
Any comments ?
NP : Arena - The Visitor
Arash -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | PROG OR DIE - The Progressive Music Page | | | | DREAM THEATER - FATES WARNING - ROYAL HUNT - SHADOW GALLERY | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1748/ | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | The Eyes Of Universe - The Official EMPTY TREMOR Fan Club Site | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1794/ | | | | by Arash and Arman Ashouriha email: ashouria@kr.fh-niederrhein.de | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:24:57 EDT From: Nshsunsfan@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Ankara63@aol.com Subject: Take Away My Pain Message-ID: <4d537830.3618f2d9@aol.com>
As I was driving into work this morning, listening to TAMP. . .it struck me just how awesome LaBrie's voice is. He can drive a stake through my heart on some of those notes.
With so much damn talent in this band. I can go for weeks/months absolutely smitten with any one of the member's talents.
It's no wonder I never tire of this band.
Have a great week Jammers. . .
_____Nikki______________________ ~~Through Nature's Inflexible Grace~~ ~~I'm Learning to Live. --J. Myung~~
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:35:36 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Once In A LIVEtime front cover Message-ID: <002001bdf07e$3876d7a0$3a1110ac@demccor.clemson.edu>
>Any comments ?
dija listen to the Take The Time RA file on the OIAL page under discography? Wow, TTT has undergone some major changes. Now it resembles a m*tallica song. At least the beginning. :)
ok, since i know this humor is a bit vague, i'll explain: oops, they accidentally put Peruvian Skies and called it TTT - not just a file naming mistake - some chick talks over parts of the clip, and she calls it Take The Time. Heh. moo.
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:43:52 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Yngwie - FTA , Jethro Tull Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.981005134245.23155B-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, CyberDuke wrote:
> Whow, whow, what's that? If I'm correct, Barriemore Barlow was Jethro > Tull member!!! What is a Jethro Tull member doing with Yngwie ? :)
Yes, Barriemore Barlow was a Jethro Tull member. He played, for instance, on "Songs from the Wood". BTW, thanks Brian Hender for recommending that album.
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 10:08:32 PDT From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: acos Message-ID: <19981005170832.11724.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hi jammers, I am still eager to know what people think of the recorded acos seasons version compared to the old one, after 3 years...
sorry, calvin6s to quote you again, but you wrote: On previous DT albums when the chorus ended and went back into a verse, the verse was similar (chord progression) yet different instrumentation. To me, that is the VARIETY that makes me listen to a DT song and NEVER grow tired of it. >> That's exactly the thing what makes pmu so fucking amazing. You're absolutely right on that one. I don't mind FII the way it is, cause I love it, but if there's a piece to point out to make it more prog in most peoples "music categorie picture" this is maybe the missing point.
You know what? The next studio album will be different. People won't like it. Life ain't no picknick. I ain't delivering a sermon here, but they write their music, the way(hopefully) they like it. If you don't, don't buy it.(sorry mike, but..) All we can do is give our feedback, but they won't change their music because hamsterxyz@hike.kug dislikes the overdubbed guitar part in the 3rd verse of wait for sleep.
I seize my day, but rosebuds are kinda out of season... schnipp
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