YTSEJAM Digest 4319
Today's Topics:
1) Elektra
by Dave Ware <dware@walker.com>
2) King's X ride request repeat
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
3) Runrig
by NikBrooks@aol.com
4) Ticketbastard
by NikBrooks@aol.com
5) Ticketbastard
by NikBrooks@aol.com
6) ACOS
by illusion@ibbs.com
7) Yngwie...
by "=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1rio_Del_Nunzio?=" <malmsteen@sti.com.br>
8) cd's for sale and king's x in nyc thursday
by Thrak75@aol.com
9) Re: Yngwie...
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
10) Re: CD selection matching the mood... VeryLittleDTC
by MaxArbot@aol.com
11) Re: the Yngwie discussion
by Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4318
by "Kevin A. Loechner" <loechner@eecs.tulane.edu>
13) Everythingandthekitchensink.
by Cyberwolf <ninja@mindspring.com>
14) Re: the Yngwie discussion
by "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
15) John Petrucci's Email Address
by YtseJamJMB@aol.com
16) Gripes about people griping about Yngwie
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
17) Jon Oliva Interview, Powermad CDs, Kevin Moore Question
by James Lutz <ytsejim@optonline.net>
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4318
by Awake77@aol.com
19) Re: YTSEJAM shirts rock!
by Darth1@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:09:44 -0500
From: Dave Ware <dware@walker.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Elektra
Message-ID: <FB615A6AB848D211BD930060975B3ACF02442F@BHAM-XCHG1.immpower.com>
Hey,
Just been to the new OIALT Elektra site and I must say I like
the cover art very much, I also liked the audio clips except for the
fact that some donkey thought it would be good to talk all over it! And
that they managed to get all the names wrong.
Record companys eh...?!
Dave (a UK jammer - now in Alabama).
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Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 13:49:30 -0400
From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: King's X ride request repeat
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981005134930.008324ec@pop.wam.umd.edu>
My illustrious colleague, Ryan Park, wrote:
>Hey...
>
>Is anyone in the Washington D.C. area going to the King's X show at Jaxx on
>Wednesday? Anyone able to give a lift to a couple of college Ytsejammers?
>It's getting kinda late and we still have no (inexpensive) way to get
there...
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Ryan
>
I'd just like to second this request (by reposting it), as I'm the other
carless college 'Jammer mentioned above. Let it be said now, I'm not above
begging. Please, if anyone happens to be driving to Jaxx from someplace
'north', drop one of us a line.
Our addys... r-park@space-dye.com unt hender@wam.umd.edu
Assorted gas/parking monies and, of course, a boatload of mad-props are
included with every favor.
Thanka.
Brian "Sans Wheels" Henderson
===================================
Name:
W. Brian Henderson, Esq.
Contact:
hender@wam.umd.edu
ROBOT-CENTRAL:
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/
His Faithful Bootleg Page:
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/Musik/Boot/
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:52:01 EDT
From: NikBrooks@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Runrig
Message-ID: <e6918c03.36191551@aol.com>
Graham B wrote:
>There's a live album called "Once in a Lifetime" by Runrig, a Scottish band
>who seem to be popular in Germany for some reason. :-) It's rock with a
>strong Celtic flavour . . . the lyrics are a mixture of English and Gaelic.
Runrig are playing in London at the Royal Festival Hall (I believe) soon .
Check press for details of a gig near you!
N
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:51:57 EDT
From: NikBrooks@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ticketbastard
Message-ID: <8e8278ae.3619154d@aol.com>
Melissa wrote:
>on the technical side:
>1. Nik, your posts are showing up twice each time you post for some reason.
>
Thanks but I know. There's a prob with AOHell at the moment. Already
requested Skadz to delet any duplicates.
>anyone else blown away by ticketmaster's service charges lately?
>ive bought a lot of tickets recently and i am just STUNNED at the amount of
>extra money they are getting out of me. its ridiculous.
>for every 2 tickets i buy im spending close to 20 bucks more in service
>charges. fucking THIEVES.
Eddie Vedder tried to go up against them a while back but unfortunately he
didn't get very far.
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:51:57 EDT
From: NikBrooks@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ticketbastard
Message-ID: <8c9e5a7.3619154d@aol.com>
Melissa wrote:
>on the technical side:
>1. Nik, your posts are showing up twice each time you post for some reason.
>
Thanks but I know. There's a prob with AOHell at the moment. Already
requested Skadz to delet any duplicates.
>anyone else blown away by ticketmaster's service charges lately?
>ive bought a lot of tickets recently and i am just STUNNED at the amount of
>extra money they are getting out of me. its ridiculous.
>for every 2 tickets i buy im spending close to 20 bucks more in service
>charges. fucking THIEVES.
Eddie Vedder tried to go up against them a while back but unfortunately he
didn't get very far.
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:56:42 -0500
From: illusion@ibbs.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ACOS
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.18.10.5.15.56.42.2781591004.1392758@bbs.ibbs.com>
Was ACOS ever played live?...if not, it'd be great they did. Preferably
at the next tour:)...cause I hopefully will be going. And maybe play
Erotomania too. Love that track.
Message sent via <href="www.ibbs.com">Illusions BBS</a>.
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:12:19 -0300
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1rio_Del_Nunzio?=" <malmsteen@sti.com.br>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Yngwie...
Message-ID: <017e01bdf09e$68b60420$f04fe7c8@malmsteen>
>And the solos, they really suck. Well, he's fast (the fastest and most
>stabile guy I've heard...), but speed doesn't make that profound feeling
>and melody a good solo has (JP/Vai/Satch/Gilmour etc etc etc).
Hahaha..."Feeling" , "Melody" and Vai ?These words don't
combine...Ok,don't want to discuss with Vai fans here...I never heard a
guitarrist playing with so much feeling as Yngwie...He is not the
fastest,and it doesn't matter...Hear Rising Force,Concerto Suite For
Electric Guitar and Orchestra...These albums contain the most emotional
music that I ever heard...
>"Facing the Animal" is indeed the best Yngwie album of the last 10 years.
>So if you want to check out neo-classical metal's most ingenious and
>effective guitarist (hell, he invented this style): FIND IT, GRAB IT, then
>put it in your CD player and get a hint of what neo-classical shred is all
>about.
Facing The Animal is a masterpiece...But Yngwie's best album in the last
10 years and ever (and my favorite album ever) is "Concerto Suite For
Electric Guitar And Orchestra In E Flat Minor Opus 1 - Millenium"...
-----
>Whow, whow, what's that? If I'm correct, Barriemore Barlow was Jethro
>Tull member!!! What is a Jethro Tull member doing with Yngwie ? :)
>
>Someone?...
Barriemore Barlow played with Yngwie in the Rising Force album (1984)...
Mario
malmsteen@sti.com.br
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:23:58 EDT
From: Thrak75@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: cd's for sale and king's x in nyc thursday
Message-ID: <74972fd0.36192ade@aol.com>
>the following items are up for grabs. all items include postage.
>$5
>-fight "immortal sin" (autographed)
>
>$8
>vai "sex and religion"
>best of emerson, lake and palmer
>tom waits "small change"
>symphonic music of yes
>guns and roses "use your illusion 2"
>the alan parsons project "eve"
>megadeth "youthanasia"
>tales from yesterday- the yes magna carta tribute
>king crimson- "in the court of the crimson king"
>rage against the machine
>john coltrane- "blue train"
>ozzy osbourne- "diary of a madman", reissue version
>$12
>yes "yessongs" (2 cd's, converted into a slim double jewel case)
>best offer
>dream theater- precious things
now- anyone here going to the king's x show at tramps thursday night? any
plans of a meet or anything? if so, let me know.....
wild koba
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david y. kobayashi
new york law school
thrak75@aol.com
http://www.mzachary.com/wildkoba
"gather ye rosebuds while ye may, old time is still a-flying; and this same
flower that smiles today tomorrow will be dying." -r. herrick
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:48:29 -0400
From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Yngwie...
Message-ID: <001601bdf0a1$855e69c0$3a1110ac@demccor.clemson.edu>
> Hahaha..."Feeling" , "Melody" and Vai ?These words don't
>combine...Ok,don't want to discuss with Vai fans here...I never heard a
>guitarrist playing with so much feeling as Yngwie...He is not the
>fastest,and it doesn't matter...Hear Rising Force,Concerto Suite For
>Electric Guitar and Orchestra...These albums contain the most emotional
>music that I ever heard...
ok, that was one of those sarcastic opposite posts, right? vai: listen to
For The Love Of God on passion and warfare. malmsteen: he IS one of the
fastest. and he doesn't express emotion. he plays scales and arpeggios. or
at least, if that's an emotion he's expressing, he's been expressing the
same emotion for 10 years :) i like yngwie but i really don't think you can
honestly say he plays with much emotion at all. well, unless you count the
pride and ego. :) moo.
*** END OF TRANSMISSION ***
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:40:43 EDT
From: MaxArbot@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: CD selection matching the mood... VeryLittleDTC
Message-ID: <afa1ef88.36193cdb@aol.com>
In case you were wondering, they do make a car CD player that holds 100 discs.
In fact, they have them now that hold 200...geez...talk about overkill. Makes
ya want to take a loooooooong road trip just so you can listen to all the
music.
What I'm waiting for (and I won't have to wait long, fortunately) is a good
car MP3 player with a LOT of disk space...now that'd be cool. The advent of
the new airwave modems that are coming soon will revolutionize the MP3
industry. Imagine driving down the street and downloading a new MP3 to your
car...wow.
[eriC]
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/MaxArbot/index.html">THE DRE/\M THE/\TER</A>
Ytsejam Stickers now available!
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Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 17:48:53 -0400
From: Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com>
To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: the Yngwie discussion
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981005174853.006bd348@pop.usefulware.com>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids.....
Denis remarked:
>P.P.S. And O, if you think that there is one single ounce of emotion in
>what Steve Vai is playing, then I strongly urge you to contact either your
>shrink or an ear therapist ASAP......
*boggle* Who needs the therapist, O. or you? If you can seriously tell me
that there's no emotion in "For the Love of God", and believe it......well,
that's as close to being emotionally dead as I'd ever care to get.
I've heard Vai accused of a lot of stuff, but being "unemotional" in his
playing is a first for me.
Ta,
Phil
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Phil Carter -- phil@usefulware.com http://www.mindspring.com/~philcarter
"Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who
no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired,
gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals
Currently playing: Lemur Voice -- "Insights"
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:54:39 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Kevin A. Loechner" <loechner@eecs.tulane.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4318
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.981005164628.22787E-100000@pegasus>
> anyone else blown away by ticketmaster's service charges lately?
> ive bought a lot of tickets recently and i am just STUNNED at the amount of
> extra money they are getting out of me. its ridiculous.
> for every 2 tickets i buy im spending close to 20 bucks more in service
> charges. fucking THIEVES.
>
> - melissa -
> madsag@aol.com
melissa, I understand what you mean about ticketmaster. I bought two
tickets and paid 10 dollars in additional charges. I think I will buy
from the outlet on campus from now on, because it will only cost an extra
dollar per ticket.
On another, more DT related note, I introduced a friend of mine, who plays
trumpet, to Dream Theater. He is mostly into Jazz, but when we took a
midi file of A Change of Seasons and analyzed it using Cakewalk, he was
blown away by the time signature changes, number of chords, and the chord
progression. He didn't believe that any musician was able to accomplish
this. He didn't even think that 17/16 time was possible until he saw the
two brief portions of ACOS that are in 17/16 time. I didn't even fully
appreciate the song, even though I already loved it, until I saw it broken
down into individual tracks and I saw the staffs for the music. It was
quite an awesome experience.
---------------------------------------------
-- Kevin A. Loechner --
-- Department of Electrical Engineering --
-- and Computer Science, Tulane University --
-- loechner@eecs.tulane.edu --
-- http://studentweb.tulane.edu/~kloechn --
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Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 18:03:06 +0000
From: Cyberwolf <ninja@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Everythingandthekitchensink.
Message-ID: <361909D2.304840F4@mindspring.com>
2 things I gotta get off my chest and outta my spleen:
1) The onceinalivetime site is not working properly beyond the main page.
2) I wish the band would go back to their original I&W and AWAKE logo. As a designer, and dr. pepper imbiber, and insane but spiritually rich neverbeenabusdriver kinda guy, I do like that logo BY FAR the best. Same with Fates logo on PS and P.
3) Between Rush, FW and DT this month, I think I'm gonna become a monk. Atleast one who goes on a prog-music fast for a month or two. Geez....
Oops... sorry... I lied. That was *3* things. Gah. Math used to be a strong subject. Now the only subject that is strong is Aldo Nova's great second CD.
- Scott
http://www.mindspring.com/~ninja
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:06:37 -0500
From: "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: the Yngwie discussion
Message-ID: <361942eb60a0001@mhub3.tc.umn.edu>
Responding to the message of Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:12:16 -0700 (PDT)
from Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com>:
> I've heard Vai accused of a lot of stuff, but being "unemotional" in his
> playing is a first for me.
Really? I've heard many people say it, and I'm one of them. The best
playing Vai ever did, as far as I'm concerned, was on the little fills for
"Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure."
-Brian
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 20:01:19 EDT
From: YtseJamJMB@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: John Petrucci's Email Address
Message-ID: <14e822d8.36195dcf@aol.com>
Does anyone here know the Email address of Petrucci. I think it might be
LTensionEx@aol.com, but I never see him on to ask him. Also, UACM does not
post that a new soundclip page has been added so.....there is a sound clip
site with a shit load of Petrucci solos that is on the sounds page of the UACM
site. It's awesome.
Later everyone,
Justin S.
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:56:32 -0600
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Gripes about people griping about Yngwie
Message-ID: <01bdf0c4$2923a4e0$290d84d0@korgx3>
>Well, Mister O, the above statement sounds like a pathetic excuse of a
>loser, who would give his right hand to play half as fast as Yngwie does,
I hereby refer back to Skadz' list of no-no topics and I believe, even if it
wasn't mentioned specifically in the list, this belongs to the etc. group.
We've had nothing but flames and dismay over Yngwie vs. the world on the
list. If you truly feel the need to respond, please keep the replies
rational and non-personal at least? And sensibly, if your name's not Steve
Vai or Yngwie Malmsteen, please don't post in their defense. :)
Quick albums reviews for the day:
Shadow Gallery's "Tyranny":
Although some people thought this CD should come with a gift certificate for
Hickory Farms, I can't say the same. Although it contains lots of soaring,
well-blended vocals, I don't think any of it's cheesy at all. It IS one of
those albums that I might have to listen to a couple of times to really
enjoy (because there's so much involved), but I have good feelings about
this disc being hailed as a top acheiver for '98. Surprise of the album:
Chris Ingles' new look.
Bruce Dickinson's "A Chemical Wedding."
This one reminds me of taking a trip to the dentist without feeling the
pain. It massages the gums, has jagged, broken teeth, performs extractions,
rows you down a root canal, and ends with a nice refreshing flouride
treatment with all the slobber involved. Maybe not as great as "Accident of
Birth" but is an excellent follow up. And to answer an unasked question...
Yes, Adrian is playing on thie CD as well.
Fare thee well, little ones!
-- KorgX3------------------------------
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 22:04:50 -0400 From: James Lutz <ytsejim@optonline.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Jon Oliva Interview, Powermad CDs, Kevin Moore Question Message-ID: <36197AC2.5613E096@optonline.net>
Here's an excerpt from a Jon Oliva Interview from June 98 Don't know if this was talked about before:
****** Q: Is there a band you haven't toured with, that you'd like to tour with? JO: Probably, Metallica and Dream Theater.
Q:Is there something in the world worth listening to, in the lines of progressive metal? JO: Not a whole lot. I like Pink Floyd. Dream Theater, perhaps. ******
> Has *anybody* received their 3-CD compilation set from Keith Menser? It's > been over a month since the festival...
Just for the record, I have not received my 3-CD set either and i'm equally as pissed as you are...
I remember reading a few years ago in the 'jam about what was written on Kevin Moore's keyboard. Does anyone know what it says?
And on one final note, my MP3 server may finally reappear. For those who do not know, which is probably many of you, I ran an MP3 server of rare music plus some album tracks of groups that many DT fans would enjoy. Check Here -> http://167.206.57.177/
Take Care, ~YtseJim
YtseJim@Optonline.net YtseJim@Dreamt.org
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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:36:57 EDT From: Awake77@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4318 Message-ID: <8e842fbb.3619ac79@aol.com>
<< P.P.S. And O, if you think that there is one single ounce of emotion in what Steve Vai is playing, then I strongly urge you to contact either your shrink or an ear therapist ASAP...... >>
Come on, guys. Do you really think that Steve Vai OR Yngwie could have gotten where they are today, without 110% dedication, and 110% heart and soul devotion to their music and their instruments? Just because someone has technical mastery of their instrument dosent mean they have no soul. It means they practice more , and they are more dedicated then the average schmuck who wants to be a "soulfull" notalent wannabe. That shit is just an excuse and everyone on this list knows it. Facing the Animal is a great album , Fire Garden is a great album. And both have tons of soul. Listen to "For the Love of God" and tell me Vai dosnet have soul, or listen to "Id Die Without You" , and then tell me Yngwie wasnt inspired when he wrote that tune.
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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:57:45 EDT From: Darth1@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM shirts rock! Message-ID: <61420ccb.3619b159@aol.com>
In a message dated 10/5/98 5:36:11 AM Central Daylight Time, ytsejam@ax.com writes:
> I was surprised to learn how many people didn't know there was a new > ytsejam shirt. I figure I'll make another mention of it now, for anyone > who missed my previous announcements. Sorry if you know all this > already: > > There's a new ytsejam shirt. It costs $15 plus $3 for shipping, and is a > high-quality black shirt with a heart-print on the front and full image > on the back. Scans of the shirt are on my website, at > www.j51.com/~mrasiel. The only size left at this time is XL. Feel free > to e-mail me w/questions.
These shirts rock! I love the front emblem with the definitions of "Progressive" Everyone get one now! He did a great job, and also has the same name as I do (always a plus |-)
Josh S.
NP: Ocean Machine - Regulator
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