YTSEJAM Digest 4322
Today's Topics:
1) Re: FYROM/Macedonia
by "Nikos@Tama-Greek band" <s9763230@minyos.its.rmit.edu.au>
2) DoE Confusion
by Steve.Arthur@Thameswater.CO.UK
3) Instructional videos
by Calvin6S@aol.com
4) Re: MACEDONIA!!!!!!! Serious NDTC
by Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
5) new DT font...
by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
6) trivia on cdnow
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
7) Re: DoE Confusion
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
8) Re: Derek RUMOR SQUASH
by "Michael Velders" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com>
9) Yngwie sucks
by "Christopher Ptacek" <someone@prognosis.com>
10) macewhat? :)
by "(just) Asmodel" <asmodel@pils.kvarteret.uib.no>
11) fonts
by Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4320
by Cyberwolf <ninja@mindspring.com>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4317
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
14) ytseradio and Once in a Livetime...
by "Michael Patrick" <civilwar@my-dejanews.com>
15) Re: Henry Rollins/KevMo
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
16) Re: Henry Rollins
by "W. Tugmutton" <tugmutton@toast.net>
17) KevMo...
by "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
18) Re: ytseradio and Once in a Livetime...
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
19) RE: DT Cover Art
by Paul Drapeau <paul@ageofvalor.com>
20) RE: DT Cover Art
by Paul Drapeau <paul@ageofvalor.com>
21) KevMo chat transcript
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:41:58 +1100 (EDT)
From: "Nikos@Tama-Greek band" <s9763230@minyos.its.rmit.edu.au>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: FYROM/Macedonia
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.981007174031.14614A-100000@minyos.its.rmit.edu.au>
Correct: Macedonia is a part of Greece, though FYROM is not.
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:20:56 +0100
From: Steve.Arthur@Thameswater.CO.UK
To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
Subject: DoE Confusion
Message-ID: <80256696.00281AF5.00@ThamesWater.Co.Uk>
Could somebody clear up some confusion I'm having over the various versions
of the Dance of Eternity Boot CD.
The one I've recently acquired is a single CD recording (good quality) of a
93 show at the Impax club, Buffalo.
It has Eve on it (no samples, Doh) and other standard I&W, WDADU fare on
it.
I recently saw a jammer posting about ACOS(orig version) being on a DoE cd
he had.
WHATS GOING ON..........??????
Steve
NP - Galactic Cowboys At The End of the Day
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 04:12:18 EDT
From: Calvin6S@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Instructional videos
Message-ID: <28f920bd.361b2262@aol.com>
I've just become aware that Kiko from Angra and Jason Becker at one time or
another had put out instructional videos. If anyone knows where I can buy
these or even possibly trade if buying isn't possible, please email me.
I am also trying to track down a George Lynch instructional from JVC called
"Open Jam with George Lynch" if you can help with that also.
Thanks.
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Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 10:25:53 +0300
From: Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: MACEDONIA!!!!!!! Serious NDTC
Message-ID: <361B1781.D36CF886@stones.com>
As someone from Slovenia (yes it used to be a part of YU too) I have to
back up Dushko. Why the f**k won`t greeks just give it a rest. It`s
rediculous. And the way they tagged Macedonia with the name Former
Yugoslavian Republic Of Macedonia is just the biggest load of crap! I
generally like greeks, but they`r behaving like jerks when it comes to
Macedonia. How the hell would you like to be called Former Part Of
Alexander The Macedonian`s Empire? (and yeah! he was macedonian like
dushko and NOT from the area called Macedonia in Greece)
`Nuff of politics for today :)
Dushko, the CD will be in the mail tomorrow. Sorry it took so long, but
I just got home from Paris.
Matej Grginic
matej@stones.com
izolit@siol.net
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Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 12:14:44 +0200
From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: new DT font...
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19981007101444.006bed40@unet.univie.ac.at>
god, this is even uglier than Star Trek's Next Generation font....
next they are going to give us the old Wing Commander font, buaah!
but who cares?
i dont....
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Dryheat (...in Houston they say that?)
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:22:52 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'Barflies'" <barflies@onelist.com>, "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>,
Subject: trivia on cdnow
Message-ID: <70F2A25BBC4DD21194B400A024D1C34128E5F0@ms.kallback.com>
Hey everyone,
Go play the trivia game on http://www.cdnow.com
I won $50 credit!
Trevor
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:34:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: Steve.Arthur@Thameswater.CO.UK
Subject: Re: DoE Confusion
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.981007073229.9276A-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> WHATS GOING ON..........??????
This is a pretty intersting answer. :)
Keep in mind that we're talking about 2 SEPERATE boots.
There's one, simply called "Dance Of Eternity," which is the show in
Buffalo (same show as "Dream Out Loud" from Kiss The Stone, I believe).
The other is called "THE Dance Of Eternity," which is the infamous 3/5/93
show w/ ACOS and Eve (w/ Samples).
Make any sence now?
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Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 05:31:51 PDT
From: "Michael Velders" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Derek RUMOR SQUASH
Message-ID: <19981007123152.22410.qmail@hotmail.com>
>From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
>Subject: Re: Derek RUMOR SQUASH
Does anyone know Mike's SN? I hear people talk about him being on all
the time and I'm really dying to talk to him. I'm a drummer and his
playing really inspires me. It would just be really cool to talk to
him. Does anyone know his AOL screen name or just email address?
>Well, look at that. We chased him away. Good going, guys. That's the
way
>to go. Now he really doesn't like us. :) At least Mike is still around.
>Right? Mike? Are you there? Are you going to leave us too?
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:02:35 -0500
From: "Christopher Ptacek" <someone@prognosis.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Yngwie sucks
Message-ID: <001601bdf1f2$c1cd9fa0$2b739c83@7979811wheat.farm.niu.edu>
Yeah, Steve Vai has no emotion. Yngwie sucks. And Portnoy shouldn't use
two bass drums. Sherinian doesn't need his TriAxis and Trinity. Myung
should play with a pick, and LaBrie should sing death metal. You guys are
on crack. When you make emotion content objective, then maybe you could
argue relevantly about its existence in certain players' sounds. Until
then, your perspective is no more valuable than your opinion that Swedish
Fish are good until you've had your 43rd fish, at which point you want to
puke up a large solid red chewy lump.
Who can tell me that Yngwie doesn't have feel on his first two albums? Or
Vai on everything he ever did? Well, any of you can. But it doesn't mean
anything to me. I've been playing guitar for half of my life, and I'm
confident in my ability to make up my own mind about music tastes. Get a
grip, yall.
- Chris
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:59:05 +0200 (CEST)
From: "(just) Asmodel" <asmodel@pils.kvarteret.uib.no>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: macewhat? :)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.981007145843.3857B-100000@pils.kvarteret.uib.no>
Heya Dushko,
I happen to know some things about Balkan history coz i'm fed up
with this stuff..being a GREEK and all (dont look at the email addy).
So i am sure of what i post here.I agree its a political matter
only and I have nothing against ppl who live in FYROM.You say
Greeks arent serious,what about the "macedonians" then who
claimed northern Greece is theirs and
sooner or later they'll even get Salonica etc..They wanted to
put all this in their constitution.Isnt it nonsense too?
Its funny how our politicians (both greek and yours) say only what
we want to hear..and we keep voting
You havent always been called Macedonia,Tito first used that name
(at least officialy) many a decade ago but greek politicians
were stupid enough not to complain (being busy with civil
wars and sending communists to deserted islands).Now if I start
using some name (more like "stealing" or borrowing it) and
after a looong time someone complains (doesnt matter if he's wrong
or right),do you think its a good excuse to say "Yes,but I've used
this name for a long time now,its mine"..Ask any lawyer and you'll
see who's right.
I can also ASSURE you,there are NO "Macedonians" in northern Greece,
I have been there so many times,i have friends who study in all
these northern cities,i have relatives living there as well.There
are Greeks,muslims,a few bulgarians maybe or ppl coming from
southern Albania.And i doubt any of these minorities is being
supressed (as the Turks claim! funny how THEY have killed many a million
ppl from Kurdistan..its money thats talking here..german/american
investments in Turkey).If you find any "Macedonians" there let me
know :) I'd like to meet them (i'm serious).
You may have an american embassy there,so what? You're lucky enough
to be in the only ex-yugoslavian normal country..watch croatia and
serbia,they keep killing each ther..montenegro and slovenia are
somewhat ok too.Wouldnt the americans need a base in the Balcans? :)
Since we closed their greek bases a long time ago? Think man..
Anyway,I dont believe there are many ppl who care about this stuff,
no matter what I say,u'll keep using that Macedonia name and its fine
to me,I'm not gonna save the country..if we're to live in peace
you can use any name you like :) We'd rather stop here and
talk about DT only eh? We're not going to agree anyway.
ps your mom has a kewl job btw.
pss about ticketmasters...you ppl act like suckers sometime..
if you think the prices are too high,then dont go to the damn
gig! if DT were to split (*cross my fingers!*) and i had
the last chance to see their last gig and the ticket was
like $100,i'd say NO.I wont let anyone fool me,dont even
care if god himself is performing live.
psss someone said ppl who liked October Rust,will find Gathering's
Mandylion (which is a great album,imo. better than Nighttime
Birds) good too.Emm..what does Type O Negative have to do
with the Gathering?? *curious*
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In just a moment your life can slip away
Wasting time by wasting chances
When all that's left here is emptiness and hope
It's always darkest before the dawn will show..
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 06:40:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: fonts
Message-ID: <19981007134040.29723.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com>
For example I would condsider the old font that the band name
> used to be written in to be a lot more "Dream Theateresque" then the
bubble
> letters on FII or the OIALT style lettering on the site and on the
cover.>>
>
I think the only reason it looked more 'Dream-Theateresque', is
because, well, that's what Dream Theater used. In any case I think
the new fonts have more to do with what fits with the artwork. Do you
imagine the FII cover with the old logo? It'd look STUPID. Besides,
bitching about fonts is like bitching about people's accents. Does it
really matter?
Ern
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Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 09:45:18 +0000
From: Cyberwolf <ninja@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4320
Message-ID: <361B382C.FD2C1709@mindspring.com>
IN regards to a previous question asked as such:
>> >Was ACOS ever played live?
It has indeed. They played it instrumentally at Sundance back in the pre-LaBrie days on good ole Long Island. And it pretty much remained almost the exact same over the years, song structure that it. Pretty remarkable if you think about it. Even on the old demo's of the song, it sounds incredibly close to the current version.
Actually at the show they DID play it at, they did an all -instrumental set anyhow.
Very cool.
Scott M.
http://www.mindspring.com.~ninja
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:05:48 -0400
From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4317
Message-ID: <CB366B2843EBD111AA9600104B6A9EF04FFC5C@wak-mail2.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
>> > DON'T CLICK HERE unless you want to see the
>> > cover art for OIAL..
>>
>> WOAH! That cover kicks ass!!
Yup, very cool indeed. I just hope that Strom wasn't involved though.
Never know what will be on the back side ...... maybe a bearded clam this
time ........
Mark.
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Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 07:14:04 -0700
From: "Michael Patrick" <civilwar@my-dejanews.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ytseradio and Once in a Livetime...
Message-ID: <KMLCMHEIPEPOFAAA@my-dejanews.com>
There's a debate on the DT newsgroup about whether Lisa Marie played an early copy of OiaLT last night or a boot from a show in Paris (possibly the same show as OiaLT?).
Anyway, James was remarkably restrained (which is good), but I don't remember him being that way at all when Mike previewed OiaLT prior to his clinics. I'm keeping my fingers crossed...
I DO NOT remember Derek's intro to 'Lines in the Sand' being anywhere NEAR that kick-ass when I saw my only (sniff) FII show in Chicago last November. Whatever anyone says, the man can smoke, and the range of sounds he incorporated was amazing.
Mike
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:26:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Henry Rollins/KevMo
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.981007102529.7767A-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Robert Newcomb wrote:
>
> I know some of you are saying to yourselves "Why the fuck is this guy
> writting about Henry Rollins?" Well I'll tell you! I just got his new
> spoken word album "Think Tank" and it is awsome. I highly suggest getting
> this. Not only is Mr. Rollins a very intellegent speaker but he is funny
> as shit. A True Masterpiece. Hey W. Tuggmutton, thanks for getting me
> into this stuff buddy!
>
You think the CD is great, you should check him out live. He's
on a US spoken word tour right this second. Anyone and everyone
should check him out. I'll be seeing him at Irving Plaza in NY
on October 14th.
Tour dates are on his publication company's website:
www.two1361.com
sorry for NDTC,
Al
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:42:58 -0500
From: "W. Tugmutton" <tugmutton@toast.net>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Henry Rollins
Message-ID: <01bdf200$c714e8c0$d6dc1a93@cmustard.swt.edu>
Ahoy,
>I know some of you are saying to yourselves "Why the fuck is this guy
>writting about Henry Rollins?" Well I'll tell you! I just got his new
>spoken word album "Think Tank" and it is awsome. I highly suggest getting
>this. Not only is Mr. Rollins a very intellegent speaker but he is funny
>as shit. A True Masterpiece. Hey W. Tuggmutton, thanks for getting me
>into this stuff buddy!
>Now on to something completely different. I was curious if there was ever
>an interview with Kevin Moore where he stated his own reasons for leaving.
>Don't think I ever heard from the man who did the deed.
>Laters
>Thorin
I saw Henry do a spoken word show in Austin this past weekend. A phenomenal show to
say the least. If any of you are interested in going, go to www.two1361.com , Henry's
book publishing company... check the News section for tour dates. When I saw him in
Baton Rouge, LA, they let us go backstage a few at a time to meet him ... and he
rocks... this time he came out and met those of us waiting around at the front of the
stage. He's a really cool guy. Also, his new book, "Solipsist", is really great... of
course so are all of them.
<praise mode off>
That's all for now -
- Mark tugmutton@toast.net
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:55:01 -0500
From: "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: KevMo...
Message-ID: <000001bdf202$758eef80$8f3688cf@jammer>
Robert... Yes there is... Please read the Dream Theater FAQ. It has all
this information, plus sooo much more.
>From: "Robert Newcomb" <newcombr@netdot.com>
>Now on to something completely different. I was curious if there was
>ever an interview with Kevin Moore where he stated his own reasons
>for leaving. Don't think I ever heard from the man who did the deed.
>
>Laters
>
>Thorin
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Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 08:10:25 -0700
From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: ytseradio and Once in a Livetime...
Message-ID: <361B8461.A25FD7FA@pacbell.net>
Michael Patrick wrote:
>
> There's a debate on the DT newsgroup about whether Lisa Marie played an early copy of OiaLT last night or a boot from a show in Paris (possibly the same show as OiaLT?).
Nope, not a boot. That was a promo copy of OiaLT.
-- Lisa Marie "Jessie" ytsegirl@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/ytsegirl ________________________________ Ytsejam Radio on Real Audio http://www.dreamt.org/ytseradio------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:26:16 -0400 From: Paul Drapeau <paul@ageofvalor.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: DT Cover Art Message-ID: <01BDF1E5.4CD0D080.paul@ageofvalor.com>
------Quote-------
Maybe its just cause the band I was really into the most when I got into DT for the first time was Floyd, but I really love Storms work, especially the covers for Animals and The Division Bell. I'm pretty sure it was his idea to change the fonts, so you can blame him for that too ;-)
Paul Drapeau paul@ageofvalor.com Age of Valor Live Role Playing http://www.ageofvalor.com/
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:31:15 -0400 From: Paul Drapeau <paul@ageofvalor.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: DT Cover Art Message-ID: <01BDF1E5.FEFC6300.paul@ageofvalor.com>
sorry about sending this again.. I was dumb :)
------Quote-------
Maybe its just cause the band I was really into the most when I got into DT for the first time was Floyd, but I really love Storms work, especially the covers for Animals and The Division Bell. I'm pretty sure it was his idea to change the fonts, so you can blame him for that too ;-)
------Quote-------
Yeah... at least now I have someone's ass to kick over the fonts :)
I would never say that Sorms work is bad... I just don't know if it says "Dream Theater" to me... I like the Floyd covers and I "like" the new Dream Theater covers. I just get a funny feeling (and I know I got the same feeling a while back when he did an Anthrax cover) of "Hey is that a Floyd cd?.. uh no.. it is Dream Theater" I think his work is SO recognizable as "Floyd" that it feel weird or out of place on anything else to me... :)
To each his own... :)
Paul Drapeau paul@ageofvalor.com Age of Valor Live Role Playing http://www.ageofvalor.com/
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:47:32 +0100 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: KevMo chat transcript Message-ID: <01BDF212.C7C5BD00@142.152.dialin.mxs.nl>
jOHN jENS wrote :
> check http://www.dreamtheater.net/ for the transcript of the > most recent Kev irc chat. he addressed this question upfront > and w/ no bullshit :D
Actually, it's not on UACM anymore... I made a seperate page for the KevMo stuff. :) If anyone has more material for it (interviews, reviews, whatever) please mail me!
http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/ck/
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