YTSEJAM Digest 4325
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4322
by Bobby Tufino <slimegod@deskmail.com>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4322
by Bobby Tufino <slimegod@deskmail.com>
3) Re: Vai vs. Malmsteen (NDTC)
by Darth1@aol.com
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4323
by Darth1@aol.com
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4323
by Darth1@aol.com
6) Help with mp3s
by Robert Jurado <rojurado@pacific.net.ph>
7) King's X Tour
by Andrew Miller <majesty2112@yahoo.com>
8) YtseBR
by rbrito@ime.usp.br (Rogerio Brito)
9) A place near Millwood
by NikBrooks@aol.com
10) bombs away?
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
11) comprehensive DT MP3 list
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
12) Re: infamous/6:00
by MentolPyro@aol.com
13) A Change of Seasons
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
14) Jordan Rudess MPG
by Richard Karsmakers <karies@wxs.nl>
15) swing
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
16) eric j
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
17) Too much sax ?!?!
by Robert Muise <lockheed@tiac.net>
18) A couple of things
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 14:58:42 -0400
From: Bobby Tufino <slimegod@deskmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4322
Message-ID: <361D0B62.4DE3A36E@deskmail.com>
I was just wondering if anyone else wonders what JLB sings in "To Live Forever" in the part where the lyrics are supposedly "My heart never once led me astray" because that's not what I hear, not even really close. I hear something like "My hunger......me to sleep" or something. Are the "led me astray" thing official lyrics?
Maybe this has been discussed before, but I didn't read about it and I'm just curious. Again I'd like to ask if anyone out there has some sound file of RTK with lyrics, and if anyone has been able to hear the ytsejam classical piano version. I downloaded it twice, and it always sounds all garbled; it might be my winamp
configuration but I can't find anything wrong with it. Some advice would be cool. THanks.
Bobby
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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 15:04:44 -0400
From: Bobby Tufino <slimegod@deskmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4322
Message-ID: <361D0CCC.5FBEBD7A@deskmail.com>
And I had to add, though these are not prog albums...anyone who loves metal with lots of melody...check out Children of Bodom's album Something Wild. Incredible. Lots of gret keys and fast, melodic guitar work. I'd describe them as black power metal, cause of the keys, double bass, and the fact that although the vocals are
black metal style, and there's the occasional blast beat, the riffs are more reminiscent of melodic old metal than anything else. Another death metal band that has always had its prog elements is Death. Their new album, Sound of Perseverance, is awesome. Think Symbolic, but more proggish...and you should hear their cover of
Priest's Painkiller. Oh yeah last thing, any Priest fans, I'm interviewing Ripper next week so anyone with some questions email me privately and I'll ask. Sorry for the NDTC. Later.
Bobby
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:24:42 EDT
From: Darth1@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Vai vs. Malmsteen (NDTC)
Message-ID: <fa675bc8.361d117a@aol.com>
In a message dated 10/6/98 1:05:03 AM Central Daylight Time, ytsejam@ax.com
writes:
> Come on, guys. Do you really think that Steve Vai OR Yngwie could have
> gotten where they are today, without 110% dedication, and 110% heart and
> soul
> devotion to their music and their instruments?
> Just because someone has technical mastery of their instrument dosent
> mean
> they have no soul. It means they practice more , and they are more
dedicated
> then the average schmuck who wants to be a "soulfull" notalent wannabe.
That
> shit is just an excuse and everyone on this list knows it.
> Facing the Animal is a great album , Fire Garden is a great album. And
> both
> have tons of soul. Listen to "For the Love of God" and tell me Vai dosnet
> have soul, or listen to "Id Die Without You" , and then tell me Yngwie
wasnt
> inspired when he wrote that tune.
I agree 100%! We are talking about 2 different styles withing the genre.
Yngwie = Faster, more technically straightforward, slightly heavier
Vai = more emotional, leaning toward a more progressive style
("These opinions, which I have here, and are mine, are my own opinions,
Ehhhheeem! EEEhhheeem!" - Monty Python skit)
They both have "soul" with their individual styles. Listen to "Touching
Tongues" or "For the Love of God" by Vai and then listen to "Black Star" or
"Deja Vu" back to back and you will hear the two distinct styles. This, "My
dad can beat up your dad", crap is getting old... Thaink yo!
Josh S.
NP: One Slip - Pink Floyd
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:54:51 EDT
From: Darth1@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4323
Message-ID: <9bf287ce.361d188b@aol.com>
In a message dated 10/8/98 8:13:58 AM Central Daylight Time, somebody writes:
> >>The King's X / Galactic Cowboys concert on November 11, 1998
> >>from Atlanta's Cotton Club will be broadcast live over the
> >>Internet. For details check out http://www.elastic.net
> >
> >>The new King's X album "Tape Head" hits stores on October 20th.
> >
>
>
> GREAT!! Ill be there...
>
>
> with my Dream Theater shirt on!
>
Awesome! I'll be there too! Maybe we can meet up?
Josh S.
NP: Yngwie Malmsteen - Braveheart
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:59:44 EDT
From: Darth1@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4323
Message-ID: <6291184e.361d19b0@aol.com>
In a message dated 10/8/98 8:13:58 AM Central Daylight Time, ytsejam@ax.com
writes:
> Dear friends,
> How can I help you? I can and I will if you let me!
>
> What if I could show you how to get access to over 28
> computer courses, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, from the comfort of
> your own home, using your own computer and Internet connection?
Uhhhhh... huh huh... What is this crap?!? Sombody remove this bunghole!
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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 04:11:25 +0700
From: Robert Jurado <rojurado@pacific.net.ph>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Help with mp3s
Message-ID: <361D2A7D.67B79666@pacific.net.ph>
Just like the poor fellow below, I'm having big-time troublewith getting mp3s. Can
I ask for a hand too?
I thought I was the only one with this problem. Do I really
need Get Right?
-Rob
> From: Todd <twwilso@students.uiuc.edu>
> To: ytsejam@ax.com
> Subject: MP3
>
> i have been having trouble downloading mp3s from certain places. when i
> download, it only downloads about 1/2 of the song and then stops. what
> the hell? i have downloaded other mp3s no problem. but for some reason
> when i try to download long island expressway, freeport jam, and other
> mp3s from the Rare DT recordings web page from the home page, shit
> happens. anyone know what the problem is and how i could fix it? thanks.
>
> todd
>
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:33:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andrew Miller <majesty2112@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: King's X Tour
Message-ID: <19981008203329.2401.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com>
Does anyone know if King's X is planning to add a Philadelphia date to
the tour, or are they going to dick us over?
Andrew Miller
majesty2112@yahoo.com
(ytsejam@Udel.edu-is currently inop)
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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 18:40:05 -0400
From: rbrito@ime.usp.br (Rogerio Brito)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YtseBR
Message-ID: <F9TH2MlyZwIY092yn@ime.usp.br>
Hi, All.
This is a message intended for the Brazilian members of the
Ytsejam.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Eu gostaria de avisar aos membros brasileiros da Ytsejam que
existe uma lista nacional do Dream Theater, chamada YtseBR, que
foi disponibilizada, inicialmente, como uma maneira de aproximar
alguns assinantes da Ytsejam para um encontro pr=E9-Monsters of
Rock.
=20
Entretanto, a popularidade da YtseBR foi tamanha que eu decidi
deix=E1-la ativa mesmo depois dos encontros j=E1 realizados, como
uma esp=E9cie de uma de vers=E3o nacional da Ytsejam.
=20
Se voc=EA gostaria de assinar a Ytsejam, por favor, mande um email
para: <rbrito-ytsebr-subscribe@ime.usp.br>. Voc=EA receber=E1 uma
mensagem contendo algumas informa=E7=F5es sobre a lista. Para que
sua inscri=E7=E3o seja efetivada na lista, simplesmente d=EA um rep=
ly
para a mensagem que voc=EA receber, tomando o cuidado de responder
para o endere=E7o correto (indicado na mensagem de informa=E7=F5es=
).
Pronto. Voc=EA j=E1 estar=E1 inscrito na lista.
=20
Um alerta: a YtseBR *n=E3o* possui digtest mode.
=20
Mantenha a mensagem contendo informa=E7=F5es com voc=EA, para futur=
as
refer=EAncias.
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That's it. Thank you for your attention.
=20
=20
[]s, Roger...
-- =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:31:01 EDT From: NikBrooks@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: A place near Millwood Message-ID: <614b0da2.361d3d25@aol.com>
In a message dated 10/8/98 10:37:20PM, you write:
>Damn, I posted simple line as a joke that goes: "X, I'm buying you >dinner next time you come to Macedonia!" and all this thread started! :) >I AM Macedonian, so I SAY TO YOU - stop it! > >Appretiate all former YUs posts though, thanks, more on the attitude >than the things you said! > >-- >Later, CyberDuke
Actually there IS a place called Macedonia (strangely enough) on the map near Millwood in upstate New York, where Uncle Mikey and Johnny P etc recorded LTE 1 ( Millwood Sound Studios).
N
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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 16:57:04 PDT From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: bombs away? Message-ID: <19981008235705.13249.qmail@hotmail.com>
about macedonia.....i thought there were two of 'em, just like Erie, PA and Erie, NY, both of which claim to be the home of the canal and damn near went to war over it on six separate occasions this century.....or that could be the chloral hydrate talking, this girl in my lab was trying to anesthetize an animal when it jumped, making her jump, syringe in hand, and I happened to be standing beside her at the time....no, i didn't get poked, just a tiny little squirt hit me....and I'm assured it doesn't have any effects through skin, but then again, I am feeling a little woozy.....of course, that could be the beer talking, we had two people in this lab defend PhD dissertations this week, meaning the boss brought the booze (AND COOKIES!)(those of you who were on irc recently may recall my tale), of which a few bottles still remain, of which I imbibed recently (Hey, it's getting pretty damn cold out there, and I gotta walk a mile and a half home right after i finish scribbling this e-mail....hmmmm, maybe i should take another nip for the road).......
anyway......OiaL....we are the ytsejam, we reserve the right to criticize any damn thing we please.....and as a member of such an august (and eveything after) body, I will admit this: I ain't gonna be buying that package any time soon. 1) I am at this time poor 2) My DT fandom is ebbing, to the point where Rush is a clear #1 fave band, (but Dt remains a solid #2) and C) any time soon means not in the next twenty days, I'll see you in the record store october 27th.....
almost had you (all three of you who actually bother reading my posts) going, didn't I?
So where do we begin, and what else can I say about Still LIfe being one HELL of a set, and something that I seriously doubt that OiaL will even be able to come anywhere near? Waiting for the Rush set, and then the war for #1 album released in 1998 will begin, the current contenders being The Wake of Magellan, Left of Cool, Younique and Still Life.....note to self, get ascension to eternity, or whatever Blevins and the boys ended up calling their second disc.....
Images and Words may have competition up at the top of my all-time favorite album list (it's tied with the joshua tree right now).....there is this little album called "UNFOLDED LIKE STAIRCASE" which has been storming up my personal charts since i received it last March, a 1997 release from the band DISCIPLINE (nothing to do with King Crimson/Fripp's DGM) (other than the fact that they play prog and are influenced by Belew and company) (and are damn damn good)......found me a comparison for the vocalist, Matthew Parmenter's voice....Peter Hamill from Van Der Graaf Generator.....if you don't know that band, they're decent as well, picked up a couple of VDGG on vinyl.....
well, it's a long long way to tipperary, and if I don't stop myself, I could go on forever, or until I fall asleep whichever comes first......
g'nite! partha
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:12:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: comprehensive DT MP3 list Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.981008211135.5967D-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
Can anybody send me a comprehensive list of Dream theater related MP3s? I want to compile these and eventually make an audio CD using the Philips CD-rw drive at work. Thanks. This is very important.
-- Damon Fibraio, email damon@monmouth.com Associate for Technical Support, De Witt and Associates Keyboardist and vocalist "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream Theater
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:23:26 EDT From: MentolPyro@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: infamous/6:00 Message-ID: <86db372f.361d658e@aol.com>
Al something wrote: << On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Schnipp - wrote: > > hi oldtimers, > I checked the FAQ twice but couldn't find the section where it explains > why one of the shows where ACOS was performed years ago is known as an > infamous show. Just because he changed the lines? The Limelight 3/5/93 show (THE Dance of Eternity show) was infamous because it was the first time that ACoS was performed live in its entirety. It was very different than the album version and became a "cult classic" among DT fans at the time. It was also the catalyst behind the big Ytsejam petition that helped get ACoS recorded into the EP everyone knows and loves. Plus, I believe that was the only show where Eve was performed with the samples....though there might be others...I think that may have been the first, if not the only..... >>
i have the subconscious (prism records) boot, and that has eve with samples, plus a live ACOS, anyone have this boot and/or know if this is the original live ACOS? that'd be so cool if it was... thanx
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:36:22 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: A Change of Seasons Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9810082333390.1120-100000@sushi>
On Thu, 8 Oct 1998 MentolPyro@aol.com wrote:
> i have the subconscious (prism records) boot, and that has eve with samples, > plus a live ACOS, anyone have this boot and/or know if this is the original > live ACOS? that'd be so cool if it was... > thanx
Yes, it's the original version of A Change of Seasons, taken from the Limelight show. If you want further information, point your browser to <http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/setlists> and look for the file called thedanceofeternity.html. It's the setlist of that show and some comments of mine about the show.
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 08:44:36 +0200 From: Richard Karsmakers <karies@wxs.nl> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Jordan Rudess MPG Message-ID: <361DB0D4.63A5@wxs.nl>
I never did find the Jordan Rudess TTT MPEG anywhere. When someone pointed me to ftp.iq.rulez.whatever the file was no longer there. I am still quite interested though...private mail would be appreciated. But before you point me anywhere, it would be appreciated if you could check if it's still there. Cheerz! -- \===-- Richard Karsmakers -- karies@wxs.nl -- ICQ #18645533 --===/ | "ST NEWS" Atari disk magazine - stnews.atari.org | | "World Wide Web Multi Media Magazine" -- www.scriba.org/w3m3 | | "Twilight World" magazine -- www.scriba.org/twilight | | Atari ST Scene Reunion -- www.scriba.org/stniccc2000 | | GWAR FAQ - www.gwar.net/fuq/index.html | | Plantiac Adoration Shrine -- home.wxs.nl/~cronos | | Disk Magazine WebRing -- www.scriba.org/diskmags | /===--- P.O. Box 67, NL-3500 AB, Utrecht - The Netherlands ---===\
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 02:11:42 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: swing Message-ID: <70F2A25BBC4DD21194B400A024D1C34128E612@ms.kallback.com>
> From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> > Didn't manage to avoid: Swing. > . I NEVER thought > that this might actually be cool...... but I'll be damned! It sure > was! I'll say it is! These days when I'm not listening to prog, I'm listening to swing. Also, as gay as this may seem to some of you, I swing dance. I tell you, it's a lot easier to meet women swing dancing than headbanging. Also, they are nice girls, not those skanky ho's you meet in rock clubs. (No offence to the skanky ho's on the list) :) In fact, I met my current girlfriend while swing dancing.
> Aside from the (really good) live band we saw - Spies Like Us, in the > car to/from we listened to some Royal Crown Revue, Big Bad Voodoo > Daddy, > and Brian Setzer Orchestra. I went ahead and picked up "Big Bad > Voodoo > Daddy" when I got back to Detroit I have to say that > this is a really cool disc, and any 'jammers who are looking to try > something new might want to check it out (actually, I really think > this > would appeal to many of the more open minded jammers). > Any of you already familiar with this stuff? Me. Here's some good swing bands to check out: Alien Fashion Show, Bellevue Cadillac, Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, Big Sandy & his Fly-Rite Boys (western swing), Big Six Big Time Operator, Blues Jumpers, Brian Setzer Orchestra, Chazz Cats, Dem Brooklyn Bums Big Band, Bill Elliott Swing Orchestra Hipster Daddy-O and the Handgrenades, Indigo Swing, Jellyroll, Jumpin' Jimes, Lee Press-on and the Nails, Steve Lucky and the Rhumba Bums, Mighty Blue Kings, New Morty Show, Eddie Reed Big Band, Royal Crown Revue, Lavay Smith & Her Red Hot Skillet Lickers, Swingerhead, and many, many more.
If you want to hear a compilation of some of these bands, pick up "Swing This, Baby!" or "Next Generation Swing"
Trevor ps. Khakis do NOT swing!
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 02:48:50 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: eric j Message-ID: <70F2A25BBC4DD21194B400A024D1C34128E618@ms.kallback.com>
Anyone get that new/old Eric Johnson cd, Seven Worlds? How is it? Also, what was the name of that new Stu Hamm project cd? Thanks, Trevor
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:26:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Muise <lockheed@tiac.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Too much sax ?!?! Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.981009102509.16296A-100000@sunspot.tiac.net>
in response to someone who said : i dont know.. > i just think its too much sax..
YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MUCH SAX!!
hell i could go for a lil sax right now myself, arashm get your purdy lil mouth over here....
Robb
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:12:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: TheListFromTheDepthsOfHell <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: A couple of things Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.981009110958.8376A-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
Just FYI,
Anyone looking for Prism Records' "Mosaic" or "Darkest of Winters" for a low price should check www.ebay.com. They are on auction (as well as a couple of other DT items) there...Mosaic is at $5 and TDoW is at $7 right now......
Just go to that link, and put "Dream Theater" in the search box, and you should find it no problem. There's also a free registration thing that you have to do in order to bid, but it's no big deal.....
just passing some info. along...
-Al
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