YTSEJAM Digest 4326
Today's Topics:
1) Download the TTT MP3 w/Rudess here
by Nick Bogovich <bogie@MIT.EDU>
2) stuff
by Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
3) Re: OiaL Overdubs?
by Adam Pye <alpine@bellsouth.net>
4) Kings X live show on the net
by Darth1@aol.com
5) Re: OiaL Overdubs?
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
6) I agree with Josh S.
by BubaMeats@aol.com
7) Musician bashing
by "Christopher Stearns" <cjstearns@feist.com>
8) YtseBirthdays
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4325
by Graham John Boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
10)
by Lars Hellsten <lhellste@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
11) Japanese FW Still Life??
by MTeiper@aol.com
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4325
by Awake77@aol.com
13) Re: Poe
by drnewb@spiff.net
14) Re: King's X Tour
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
15) Once in a LIVEtime on tha charts....
by MentolPyro@aol.com
16) Swing
by "James C. Shields" <jimshields@bigplanet.com>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4324
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
18) Guitar effect question
by "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
19) Re: Guitar effect question
by calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro)
20) Ytse-Annoyance
by AL <al@isd.net>
21) Re:Jordan Rudess MPG
by AL <al@isd.net>
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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 11:42:47 -0400
From: Nick Bogovich <bogie@MIT.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Download the TTT MP3 w/Rudess here
Message-ID: <4.1.19981009114119.00a8be30@po7.mit.edu>
Hey everyone,
For those of you who want to download the Jordan Rudess
MP3 on TTT, get it here:
mindcrime@mindcrime.mit.edu/mp3s/">ftp://mindcrime:mindcrime@mindcrime.mit.edu/mp3s/
Go under Dream Theater, and voila.
Enjoy.
Oh, and all you people who are waiting for your FYSs, all
backlog has been shipped out today! wooha. i'm extremely
sorry about the delay.
-Bogie
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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 11:48:18 -0400
From: Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: stuff
Message-ID: <361E3042.30F77FD3@trw.com>
> So where do we begin, and what else can I say about Still LIfe being one
> HELL of a set, and something that I seriously doubt that OiaL will even
> be able to come anywhere near? Waiting for the Rush set, and then the
> war for #1 album released in 1998 will begin, the current contenders
> being The Wake of Magellan, Left of Cool, Younique and Still
> Life.....note to self, get ascension to eternity, or whatever Blevins
> and the boys ended up calling their second disc.....
Division's new disc is Ascension (or Ascencion heh) to Eternity and it
is out as of this past Wednesday. This is a great disc by the way. Much
better than their first effort Paradise Lost (which is still good). Get
this disc.
Currently my top disc of the year is the new one from Power of Omens.
This cd seriously kicks butt. Geoff Tate never sounded this good...
Other discs battling for the top positions include Superior's Younique,
Shadow Gallery's Tyranny, KISS's Psycho Circus, Savatage's Wake of
Magellan, Division's ATE. Is there anything I am forgetting...
I don't feel live discs should make the top of the year so the new Fates
and DT wont be considered even though I will get them and I am sure they
will be awesome.
NP:Division-ATE
-- |----------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty Email: Pat.Daugherty@trw.com | | Web : http://www.abs.net/~patnbeck/pat/pat.html | |================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | |----------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 13:14:46 -0400 From: Adam Pye <alpine@bellsouth.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: OiaL Overdubs? Message-ID: <199810091712.NAA27209@mail.lig.bellsouth.net>
> Ive been listening to the real audio samples on the OiAL website, and >on the choruses ive been trying to no avail to discern if its actually >JP and MP doing them.. since they sound extremely better ( in clarity >and execution ) than any video/audio ive heard from the FII tour...
I was thinking the same thing. I've got a dozen FII boots and never have the backup vocals sounded this good. I got a promo set of OIAL yesterday (which was promptly stolen by my brother who lives a few miles away - bastard) and there are a few things that stand out to me. Noticed these also when Lisa Marie played the CDs on Ytseradio (thanks Lisa!):
1) The backup vocals. They sound great. On key (which isn't always the case live), clear (also not always the case) and in unison. I don't mind backup vocal overdubs, just commenting. The finished product sounds great...
2) The lead vocals. Either James had close to the night of his life or there are some dubs in here. There are certain notes on certain songs that James _always_ (as far as I've heard) sounds at least "gravelly" on (the end of Lie is a great example). On this recording he sounds dead-on-balls-accurate (first person to come up with that movie reference gets my promo OIAL - ya right) for the most part. :-) You do hear some flaws from him tho' (unlike in the overdubbed Ronnie Scott's cuts from ACOS), so maybe he just kicked ass that night. He IS the man, of course... :)
Question: Would there be any interest in a Ytseradio spot that included almost nothing but live bootleg material? I'm not talking about the generic boot CDs you can buy anywhere, but stuff most people haven't heard.
Take care everyone!
__________________________________________________ Adam Pye alpine(-at-)bellsouth.net ICQ: 9382967 http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/~alpine ^^ Above URL for Tapelist w/ Setlists __________________________________________________
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:44:26 EDT From: Darth1@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Kings X live show on the net Message-ID: <632d785c.361e4b7a@aol.com>
I heard there was gonna be a live Internet webcast of the Atlanta Kings X show on Nov. 11... Can someone point me to the website where this will be taking place? A friend and I are going to the show but his wife will have to stay home with the baby and she REALLY wanted to go. So brighten up a new mother's life and help me out. Thanx in advance.
Josh S.
NP: Thick as a Brick (the long version |-) - JT
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:51:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: OiaL Overdubs? Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.981009135008.28800A-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Adam Pye wrote:
> end of Lie is a great example). On this recording he sounds > dead-on-balls-accurate (first person to come up with that movie reference > gets my promo OIAL - ya right) for the most part. :-) You do hear some
"My Cousin Vinnie", with the most scrumptious Marisa Tomei....
My address is.....naah, forget it. I'm not a huge movie buff (I watch 'em, but don't obsess on 'em) and whenever I can get one of these, I jump on it.......
-Al
===================================================================== b l i n d l a b o r s t h e b l i n d a n d I a m u n w i l l i n g t o u n c o v e r m y e y e s ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu OR sigma982@yahoo.com OR theprof@bigfoot.com HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:19:04 EDT From: BubaMeats@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I agree with Josh S. Message-ID: <2476b0ea.361e61a8@aol.com>
This shit is old. Everyone should just admit that you can't play guitar with out emotion and the same goes for any other instrument. NO one is better than anyone else, it is all just a matter of opinoin and choice. scott sill
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:44:05 -0700 From: "Christopher Stearns" <cjstearns@feist.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Musician bashing Message-ID: <199810091936.OAA02233@wichita.fn.net>
I really thought that ytsejam was bunch of people devoted to music. Good and well written that is. I'v e put in tons of my comments on certain subjects. All I have seen is you people bashing good musicians. I hope all of you can play better than Derek, Jordan, Vai, Satriani, and choice others you tend to bash all the time. If you can where are you I've heard of these guys not you. It tends to get a bit tireing seen who thinks who is better than who. I guarentee they are all better than us. Its hard enough for these guys to make money in the biz because they are not popular or a fad, what popular music has turned into. With fans like you I wouldn't want you to buy my albums. Why should I want to do anything for you people if you are going to bash every good musician that comes around. Every person I have seen you bash I like. Of course I like some better than others but I'm not going to bash them, nor am I going to stop buying their cd's in hopes they will go under. When I joined this web site I really thought it was a buch of people who still enjoyed good music. I think I was mistaken. It is really time for me to get off this mailing list and its really too bad being a huge DT fan, and this is no offence to them. It's just pretty sad when a fan mailing list turns into this.
I really hope someone will read this and maybe you will realize whose mailing list we are on.
Its really too bad CJBass
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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 18:02:33 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: YtseBirthdays Message-ID: <361E41A9.7E421EF6@mol.com.mk>
> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:31:01 EDT > From: NikBrooks@aol.com > Subject: A place near Millwood > > Actually there IS a place called Macedonia (strangely enough) on the map near > Millwood in upstate New York, where Uncle Mikey and Johnny P etc recorded LTE > 1 ( Millwood Sound Studios). > > N
??????? Is this another joke? :)
Kinda DTC:
Can someone tell me the URL where YtseBirthdays were?
And everyone who didn't sign my guestbook, go back immediately and do it. I said: NOW! :) -- Later, CyberDuke
Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail duskob@mol.com.mk ICQ# 17392722
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Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 00:44:37 +1000 From: Graham John Boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4325 Message-ID: <361243D5.B78BF276@sydney.net>
> Uhhhhh... huh huh... What is this crap?!? Sombody remove this bunghole!
Uhhhh bitching here won't remove him, once again if you have a problem with anyone posting this crap email the list owner NOT the jam :)
> i have the subconscious (prism records) boot, and that has eve with samples, > plus a live ACOS, anyone have this boot and/or know if this is the original > live ACOS? that'd be so cool if it was... > thanx
Thats cos prism guru Mike Bahr lifted those songs straight off 'tDoE' boot.
Graham
PS Anyone out there who has the 'SoC' and can make a CDR of this drop me a line and I'll send you my CD boot trade list.
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:49:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Lars Hellsten <lhellste@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95q.981009162642.14746B-100000@descartes.uwaterloo.ca>
> I was just wondering if anyone else wonders what JLB sings in "To Live > Forever" in the part where the lyrics are supposedly "My heart never > once led me astray" because that's not what I hear, not even really > close. I hear something like "My hunger......me to sleep" or something.
I hear "My hungryelasticrubbernads will eat me in my sleep"! I stopped listening to TLF because my left nad would always begin to hurt around that part.
> curious. Again I'd like to ask if anyone out there has some sound file > of RTK with lyrics, and if anyone has been able to hear the ytsejam > classical piano version. I downloaded it twice, and it always sounds all > garbled; it might be my winamp configuration but I can't find anything > wrong with it. Some advice would be cool. THanks.
You could try using that "uncook" program, or even switching to a better OS (I had no problems with Netscape and x11amp). BTW, the guy who did this is definitely much better than Derek! :)
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:06:58 EDT From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Japanese FW Still Life?? Message-ID: <e14aa11e.361e7af2@aol.com>
Hey All -
I've been checking some of the online music stores on and off for a while now, and nobody as far as I know has the Japanese "Still Life" for sale with the bonus track "In Trance".
Does anyone know how I can get my grubby little hands on a copy of this? I'm totally jonesing to hear the CD, but I want to hold off on buying the American version 'cuz I want the bonus track too.
Thanx, all...... Matt T.
NP: Shadow Gallery "Tyranny" <-- A Masterpiece of an Album, BTW! :-)
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:33:56 EDT From: Awake77@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4325 Message-ID: <dc99ee5e.361e8144@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-10-09 11:24:01 EDT, you write:
<< Also, they are nice girls, not those skanky ho's you meet in rock clubs. (No offence to the skanky ho's on the list) :) >>
Dosent that just suck?
-Chris
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:10:11 -0500 From: drnewb@spiff.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Poe Message-ID: <199810092210.PAA29643@odin.ax.com>
> While we're on the "discusion" of how awsome Anna Lee is, I have one > quick question. Is there any connection between Anna Lee and Edgar > Allen Poe's Annabel Lee? Maybe a character symbolism or something. I > love Poe's works (especially the Pit and the Pendullem) but haven't > read Annabel Lee in a while and dont quite remember it. That would be > cool if they or SX did something related to Poe's work. For some Poe-inspired prog (sort of) metal, check out Tourniquet. They quote from "Masque of the Red Death" in their song "Vanishing Lessons," (from the album of the same name) they have an instrumental track named after Poe's "Descent into the Maelstrom," (from their album Pathogenic Ocular Dissonance) and they have a song based on and titled "The Telltale Heart" (from their most recent album Crawl to China). They do also thank Poe in their liner notes :).
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 18:20:59 -0400 From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: King's X Tour Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19981009182059.007ac810@mail.erinet.com>
>Does anyone know if King's X is planning to add a Philadelphia date to >the tour, or are they going to dick us over?
according to Ty, there are still mroe dates to come... if so, looks like late-Nov...
later, Dan
+--- ---+ Dan Temmesfeld Galactic Cowboys on the Web dantemm@erinet.com http://www.dlm.net/gc/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "He who laughs last thinks slowest" +--- ---+
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 20:24:34 EDT From: MentolPyro@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Once in a LIVEtime on tha charts.... Message-ID: <34678a6e.361ea942@aol.com>
Go to the following web siteto see DT's new album on Rock/Pop charts (off of CDNow) http://www.cdnow.com/cgi- bin/mserver/SID=1720158677/regpage=RP/GENRE/ROCK/rock.charts.html/
and for AOL members, simply click here (i think): <A HREF="http://www.cdnow.com/cgi- bin/mserver/SID=1720158677/regpage=RP/GENRE/ROCK/rock.charts.html/">Rock/Pop Charts</A> this was so cool, cuz i was chatting with this girl and she suddenly says Dream Theater is on the charts, and i'm like WHAT THE BLEEP? cuz she knows i like em, but it was so cool that she just stumbled upon them, so i checked it out and now you can too.....
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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 19:59:31 -0500 From: "James C. Shields" <jimshields@bigplanet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Swing Message-ID: <199810100059.SAA13147@smtpout1.bigplanet.com>
yep. swing is pretty damn cool. I just wish MTV would play some good stuff, not just that one Cherry Poppin' Daddies song. > Aside from the (really good) live band we saw - Spies Like Us Where did you see them? The drummer in my band goes to highschool with those guys in San Antonio. They're usually ska, but they play some pretty mean swing from what I hear.
James C. Shields Aureus Records and Promotions Phone: (512)478-8096 mobile: (512)626-7096
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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 18:13:52 -0700 From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4324 Message-ID: <361EB4CF.20AA4A13@ucla.edu>
OK, hi everyone. After far too much time, Ive got on this mailing list. I have nothing to flame at, bitch at, or complain about. Just wanted to say hi! ~Amanda
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:53:54 -0400 From: "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Guitar effect question Message-ID: <19981010015613.IXFO2374@239157822worldnet.att.net>
Hello, I need a recommendation on an overdrive pedal. My main setup is an Ibanez JS (dual humbucker) into a Fender M-80 (solid state). The gain on my amp is great for metal playing, but not for a milder blues tone. I know that many traditional ODs will sound like crap through a solid state amp, so does anyone have any recommendations for an effective pedal? I'm hoping for something along the lines of a Collective Soul type sound. I know that TS-9s aren't great for humbucking guitars, but I've heard good things about Danelectro pedals. Any thoughts? Sorry for the NDTC clutter...
Stodgers
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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 22:41:46 -0300 From: calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Guitar effect question Message-ID: <361EBB58.97C6CC25@caribe.net>
Thomas Forcier wrote:
> Hello, > I need a recommendation on an overdrive pedal. My main setup is an Ibanez > JS (dual humbucker) into a Fender M-80 (solid state). The gain on my amp is > great for metal playing, but not for a milder blues tone. I know that many > traditional ODs will sound like crap through a solid state amp, so does > anyone have any recommendations for an effective pedal? I'm hoping for > something along the lines of a Collective Soul type sound. I know that > TS-9s aren't great for humbucking guitars, but I've heard good things about > Danelectro pedals. Any thoughts? Sorry for the NDTC clutter... > > Stodgers
Maybe im just lazy.but for a nice earthy?/warm tone.. ( i have an ibanez rg w/ Hum/single/hum config ) i just turn the volume notch to about 2, and use either the neck, or the 2nd position from the neck on the switch.. btw i just connect the Rg to my fender rockpro 1000 combo amp... heh.. maybe what im doing is just lazy ( or crappy ) but i love the sound it gives
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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 22:28:19 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Ytse-Annoyance Message-ID: <361ED453.B7BE484B@isd.net>
Hi all..
A few jammers have recently been posting messages without wrapping their text. If you would be so kind as to wrap your text to around 90 characters it would make reading the jams a little less annoying.
Thank you.
PS - I will be picking up Fates Warning's "Still Life" in less than an hour, after a few spins I will post a short review. -- AL... The Ytse-Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ St. Mary's home for the occasionally coherent is sponsoring a staring contest --George Carlin
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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 22:40:14 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re:Jordan Rudess MPG Message-ID: <361ED71E.19C0651@isd.net>
Richard Karsmakers wrote: >I never did find the Jordan Rudess TTT MPEG anywhere. When someone >pointed me to ftp.iq.rulez.whatever the file was no longer there. I am
Richard,
If you can't find it, e-mail me privately and send me your ICQ # again. If we can coordinate a time, I'd be more than happy to send it to you VIA ICQ. I hope you understand that the file in question is a MP3, not a MPEG. -- AL... The Ytse-Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ St. Mary's home for the occasionally coherent is sponsoring a staring contest --George Carlin
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