YTSEJAM Digest 4331
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Tool, and stuff that's sure to get me flamed
by Jim Shields <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>
2) FINALLY DT HAT PICTURE NEW***
by Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
3) DT HAT on the NET
by Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
4) Re: mp3 to MD
by "Ryan Whitaker" <David-Whitaker@worldnet.att.net>
5) Nationalities Etc.
by Uroborosss@aol.com
6) james would agree
by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee>
7) Re: Symphony X new bass player?????
by goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel)
8) Majesty D.T. Bootlegs
by "TERZOUDIS CHRISTOFOROS" <flyingtrays@ath.forthnet.gr>
9) Re:mp3 to MD
by Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
10) Re: Dear Korgy
by AL <al@isd.net>
11) Alex Skolonick
by Jean-Francois Cote <cote@med.mcgill.ca>
12) Re: Since it seems to be the in thing to ask about. :)
by AL <al@isd.net>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4330
by Chris Livingstone <Chris.Livingstone@wolfson.co.uk>
14) NDTC, Dali's Dilemma
by Everett Painter <evpainte@davidson.edu>
15) Tsetse Jam
by Robert Muise <lockheed@tiac.net>
16) ELP tribute
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
17) When Dream And Mechanios Unite
by "Elydian" <elydian@netcomuk.co.uk>
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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:37:28 -0500
From: Jim Shields <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Tool, and stuff that's sure to get me flamed
Message-ID: <l03130301b2471da28e48@[128.83.251.108]>
>Also, everyone on this list should own Tool's aenima album. It's great!
>It has a lot of prog influence, too. It just really kicks ass. Plus,
>these guys can be really funny. In the title song about wanting the
>world to end: "I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied. Learn to
>swim." And I just found out, for anyone who cares, that track 10, which
>sounds like a nazi speech or something, is actually a recipe for
>poundcake.
This is a fantastic album. Tool has been one of my favorites since sober
came out back when I was a freshman or sophomore in high school. But
besides being really funny, they're all majorly into BUTTSEX!!! Prison
sex, Stinkfist, and some other song on Aenima that mentions putting "your
fucking finger up your
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssss!" all have to
do with being screwed in a very uncomfortable place (and not the back of a
Volkswagon, either). Another funny part of Aenima is the little organ
interlude that's all happy and carnival sounding.
But actually, "Aenima" the song is about California falling into the ocean,
and that's why they should learn to swim. The song addresses all the bad
stuff in American culture that is usually magnified in CA: "Fret for your
hairpiece and fret for your latte and fret for prozac and fret for your
lawsuit and fret for your car it's a bullshit three ring circus side
show..." although I probably didn't get all the frettables in the right
order.
Tool actually exemplifies more what I think prog should be. The
Magna Carta sound just doesn't really seem that progressive to me. All the
bands are very talented, but the operatic vocals, guitar-and-keyboard metal
sound just seems awfully dated to be labled "progressive." When I hear the
term "progressive" I think of more than just complicated music and
arrangements in a standard setting. I think of new (or at least different)
instrumentation, new sounds, and interesting music that takes a few listens
to absorb. That's why I consider bands like The Tea Party, I Mother Earth,
and Tool progressive, because they do more than play complex songs to
expand the realm of rock music. Also, they take a more modern sound and
progress upon it. Most of the Magna Carta bands I've heard tend to
progress upon a style of music that was dominant a decade ago.
I think to be truly progressive, a band needs to make progress with
music that is more current (hmm, who'da thunk? Alterna-prog). I'm not
necessarily saying make third eye blind progressive (I think that's
impossible), but take I Mother Earth, for example. They are all wonderful,
very talented musicians, they let their talent show, their music isn't just
3-chord pop (some of it is pretty complex, actually) but they definitely
have a very modern sound. I listened to a Shadow Gallery album and had to
re-check the publication date to make sure it wasn't from 1987. That
doesn't seem very progressive to me.
Let me end this by saying that I absolutely love everything prog
stands for: having musical integrity, actually practicing your instrument
to be a skilled player, not following musical formulas, etc. I just think
prog should progress a little bit more.
PS - I'd be very willing to hear some INTELLIGENT discussion about my
little rant here, but let's keep the flaming to a minimum. (Let's have a
little, though, 'cause flames are always fun to read)
Jim Shields
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Aureus Records and Promotions
Phone: (512)478-8096
Mobile: (512)626-7096
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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:47:10 -0700
From: Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: FINALLY DT HAT PICTURE NEW***
Message-ID: <199810120345.XAA08822@camel8.mindspring.com>
DRUMMM ROLLLL PLEASE................................
NEW ( THE PICTURE IS now on the NET! )
Embroidered
DT YTSEJAM INTERNATIONAL HATS are finally here!!
SEE A PICTURE AT:
www.dreamt.org (in merchandise section)
or direct link: www.trsgroup.com
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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:49:13 -0700
From: Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT HAT on the NET
Message-ID: <199810120347.XAA04996@camel8.mindspring.com>
Check out:
direct link:
www.trsgroup.com
or
www.dreamt.org (merchandise section)
THE HATS ARE IN. The picture is there...
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:53:51 -0500
From: "Ryan Whitaker" <David-Whitaker@worldnet.att.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: mp3 to MD
Message-ID: <000901bdf5a4$b57928e0$38eb490c@dwhit>
Regarding 'taping' MP3s to MD...
I have a portable Sony recorder (the MZR-50), and so far it's been verrrry
cool. It's not good for recording concerts (you can hear about 10 seconds
worth of very quiet interference every 35 or so seconds when it's writing
out its buffer to disc). But for recording from CDs or things like MP3s off
the computer, it works like a charm. And you can change recording levels on
the MZR-50, just not *while* it's recording like the Sharp can.
If you have an analog soundcard, hook a minijack to minijack plug up from
your line-out on the soundcard to the line-in on the minidisc recorder. Set
the recording level on the minidisc unit to where the loudest passages
nearly peak out. Then record.
If you have a digital soundcard like a Zefiro ZA2 (around $400), all you
have to do is plug a toslink to optical minijack plug up to the minidisc
recorder, put the synchro-record "on" on the minidisc unit, hit record
(which puts the unit on pause while it waits for a digital signal), then the
instant you start playing the MP3 on your computer it begins recording.
Purely digital, purely ahhh.. =) (not really pure pure, if you understand
the compression it goes through on both formats) Whatever the case, the
digital method of transferring MP3s sounds better and is easier.
Nice portable, track-accessible way to listen to all these DT MP3s floating
around.
Minidisc is great.. I'm just waiting for the day when they release a
non-compression-based version of it. Audio compression on a disc the size
of a minidisc is pretty retarded when you compare it to the density of a
DVD.
Take care,
Ryan Whitaker
Scarred Records
http://scarred.mit.edu
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 02:35:11 EDT
From: Uroborosss@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Nationalities Etc.
Message-ID: <e272cb63.3621a31f@aol.com>
> From: Jeremy Hyde <tempus@alliance.net>
> Subject: nationalities of DT members
>
> Shut up.
> They were all born in the USA, they're American.
So if a German couple spends a year in France and has a child there, the child
is French and not German? Because it was born in France? Its parents both
being German having absolutely nothing to do with it? What crack you smokin,
Jeremy? (I know, I know, this phenomena only has validity to a newborn baby if
such a couple travels to AMERICA. I still think it's about as weird as a
presidential cigar treatment.)
Nationalities. When I first met Derek I asked him where he got his hair. It's
very thick, and very black, and can only be Mediterranean or Middle Eastern.
He said it was from the Greek side of his family. Derek may have been lying, I
mean he DID once say to an entire crowd of Japanese fans "I'M A HOMO," which
was untrue, just ask the Chew brothers. So it's possible he has no Greek
ancestry whatsoever. But James LaBrie's father is from Mars, which is the
Roman god of war, which is why James enjoys cursing and being furious. And
John Petrucci, well DUH, the last name says it all. He's Irish-American.
BaFurious Vai
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:31:10 +0300
From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: james would agree
Message-ID: <199810120931.maa22419@estcard.ee>
> WHAT? No LEARNING TO LIVE? VOICES? You have got to be kidding me!!!!
> And only Ytsejam and BMS for Encore? Wow! Especially for a Fanty Set
> list, you gotta think big!! TRY:
[snipped]
"What do you think we are, a fuckin' jukebox?" - Lames JaBrie.
Raivo Hool
NT administrator,
Estonian Card Center of Banks
e-mail: raitz@estcard.ee
office: (+372) 6 711 416
mobile: (+372) 51 43 567
ICQ: 19980975
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:31:40 +0200 (MET DST)
From: goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Symphony X new bass player?????
Message-ID: <m0zSfGO-0003xZC@inf.fu-berlin.de>
Alexis asked:
> What? Since when did Miller leave SX? Anybody has info on this??????
Symphony X has a new bass player for four weeks now, Thomas Miller had to leave
the band because of health problems. I've seen them live a couple of days ago,
it was one of the best shows I've seen for a long time!! Incredible!!
The name of the new guy is Andy DeLuca (he's only 22 years old!!) and IMO he
fits well into the band. Apart from Symphony X he's working on a project with
two Cynic members.
If you're interested in news, show reviews and discussions (about how bad
everybody feels about Miller leaving the band for example...) about Symphony X,
just join the SX-mailing list "The Edge Of Forever" by sending an empty e-mail
to the address teof-subscribe@egroups.com !
Bis bald,
Ties
NP: Edguy - Vain Glory Opera
-- The Web Thing - Vanden Plas Internet Site: http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~goebel/vp/------------------------------
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:21:32 +0300 From: "TERZOUDIS CHRISTOFOROS" <flyingtrays@ath.forthnet.gr> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Majesty D.T. Bootlegs Message-ID: <199810121125.OAA18115@nefeli.forthnet.gr>
Does anyone know where can I get the Majesty Demo on cd as well as any other D.T. Bootlegs and demo on CD? Disabled Waiters Project Rule!
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:02:05 +0200 From: Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re:mp3 to MD Message-ID: <3621EFBD.439B3866@stones.com>
>Anybody ever try mp3 to MD. I don't have a unit yet, but I plan on >getting >one in the near future. Any tips on portable units, i.e., >recommendations. >Also, how do I get the best results "taping" mp3s?
Yea, I do that alot with my portable MD recorder Kenwood DMC-G7R. I never had any complaint regarding sound quality. This particular unit uses the latest ATRAC sound compression so it's supposed to sound even better than CD (I can't tell the difference myself). If this unit was lost I'd buy another one in a blink of an eye, regardless of the outrageous price! The best MD(+recorder) portable unit on the market! How to tape mp3 to minidisc? Just hook it up with your soundblaster, set the levels and hit play and red button, doh. I'm interested in taping a live show with it. Can anyone suggest a microphone for such a task (as small and portable as possible please).
Cheers,
Matej
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 07:05:03 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Dear Korgy Message-ID: <3621F06F.F155897B@isd.net>
Korgy of Jamsterland wrote: >Of separate individuals, I would say the band "Dream Theater." But if you >were to cross all of the above characteristics into one person, I could only >visialize one possibility: Paul Shaffer. You're one twisted duck!
>KorgamsatronX3, the new sex toy for women. This model is similar to the "Sherinatron." The difference is: The KorgamsatronX3 quits half way through to remind you the updated drivers will be available (at a small fee) as soon as Microsoft gets around to certifying the driver version.
Do you still have the injection mold hump on your back?
-- AL... The Ytse-Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ St. Mary's home for the occasionally coherent is sponsoring a staring contest --George Carlin
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:07:22 -0500 From: Jean-Francois Cote <cote@med.mcgill.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Alex Skolonick Message-ID: <3621FF09.203D3392@med.mcgill.ca>
Hello Jammers,
I never fowarded stuff to the jam before, but I tought that this coul= d interest a couple of jammers. Alex Skolonick, former Testament and Savatage, and who has recently release the great Attention Deficit impro CD is looking for a qualifi= ed helper to design is web page. Here is a portion of his latest newsletter:
>Sep. 18 ,1998 Hello, it=92s Alex here! I have made it to New York, and am final= ly getting things together. I absolutely love it here. I=92m also amazed= at how many new people have written in over the last couple months while I=91ve been off-line. Welcome! I hope to answer everybody=92s questi= ons with this update. Here=92s what=92s going on:
The Website:
Absolutely nothing has gone on! I apologize to those who, like myself, have been waiting for the audio clips, guitar geek section etc... to be complete. Alex, the web designer (not me), has been too busy to do any new work on it. Though he did a great job getting it = up and running and has apologized for this, I=92ve decided it=92s now ti= me to move on to plan B. So here it is: ALEX SKOLNICK WANTS YOU!! ...to work on the Skol-Patrol website (picture me pointing at you like Uncle Sam in that old Army ad!) . I= =92m currently looking for someone here in the New York area to help upda= te the site. If you are reading this and are: 1. Qualified and experienced in the field of web-design, 2. Living in the New York/tri-state area, 3=
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