YTSEJAM Digest 4336
Today's Topics:
1) Who made this compilation for me?
by "Dave Peterson" <glyde@hotmail.com>
2) LTE2
by "Anderson, Brian D" <BAnderson@sdms.usa.xerox.com>
3) Something about Laura
by Carol Dellinger <cdellinger@legato.com>
4) Re: too 80's.....
by "Josh Walkowicz" <jpwalkowicz@freh-03.freh.purdue.edu>
5) Re: cdnow
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
6) Tool = DT?
by "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil>
7) Re: CDNow quiz/discounts/paying way ????????
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
8) Re: Who made this compilation for me?
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
9) Honorary Roadie sweepstakes
by Ryan Park <rpark@space-dye.com>
10) LTE2 Latest News
by NikBrooks@aol.com
11) Misheard Lyrics
by NikBrooks@aol.com
12) CDNow, Radio Stations, and MP3s
by Nicole McWatters <nmcwatters@welcom.com>
13) Re: tool
by "Pat Sullivan" <psull@ici.net>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4335
by "Christopher Stearns" <cjstearns@feist.com>
15) 80's Rock
by Ivan Navarro <inavarro@mdo.net>
16) **DT embroidered HAT/SEE picture!!**
by Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
17) fundation forum
by Marco Petrini <mpetrini@tin.it>
18) Lockstep Cooking
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 06:27:17 PDT
From: "Dave Peterson" <glyde@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Who made this compilation for me?
Message-ID: <19981013132717.28657.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey guys - about 2 years ago, on the jam, we set up a tape tree where
people would put some great songs on tapes and trade them with other
jammers.
I'm trying to track down who sent me a particular tape. Unfortunately,
I've lost the tape, so I only can do this from memory.
The contents of the tape were, among other things:
Blind Guardian, The Gathering, Tiamat, Opeth, Moonspell,
Dark Tranquility...???
That's all that comes to mind. If these bands ring a bell and you
think you might have made this tape for me way back when, please contact
me. I've got some questions for ya!
Thanks!
- Dr. Teeth
P.S. Isn't it time for another one of these tape trading trees???
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:55:06 -0400
From: "Anderson, Brian D" <BAnderson@sdms.usa.xerox.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: LTE2
Message-ID: <201BB34B3A73D1118C1F00805F1582E88C2D20@x-wb-0128-nt8.wrc.xerox.com>
> Wow,
>
> That's cool...I guess LTE2 sessions must be going on back in
> Millbrook again, what with MP in that corner of the world.
> (I don't know if anyone had mentioned where LTE2 was
> going down.)
>
> -Rob
Well, here's what Tony says . . . (www.papabear.com/tlev.htm) . . .
October 11th
"But now I'm at a studio nestled in a remote corner of New York State - the
autumn leaves are bright gold here, and when it's not raining, the air is
wonderfully fresh. But that's for the horses to enjoy, cause we (Liquid
Tension Experiment) are again locked in a studio without windows, writing
and recording round the clock. Ten days to write and record an album - why
do we do this to ourselves?? I'm again impressed by how many notes per
second the other guys can play! (Jordan Rudess, Mike Portnoy, John
Petrucci.) And, as in the last recording, I'm the one struggling to play
these blazing parts, and grateful that the others are patient with
me. I did, since I knew this was coming, practice my speed Stick playing a
bit, so am not hopelessly left behind this time. It's pretty cozy here -
four guys, three bedrooms - no wonder we'd just as soon rehearse till after
midnight! Quite a change from the Crimson rehearsals, which usually break by
6pm for dinner and time alone to do the many things which Crims do! I DO
have my faithful Saeco Profi machine set up here, so coffee breaks are as
they should be; with good fresh espresso."
-Brian Anderson
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 07:04:40 -0700
From: Carol Dellinger <cdellinger@legato.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Something about Laura
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981013070440.00b13b90@mail.legato.com>
Hey Jammers!
Some have asked who is Laura Jaeger, who sings the duet with Mike Baker on
the song Spoken Words, off the Tyranny CD by Shadow Gallery. She's an old
friend of Gary Wehrkamp's from a while back, and I believe that Gary told
me they used to perform in a band together way back when.
This song is one of my fave tracks off Tyranny, gives me chills everytime I
hear it.
Coldfire
GalleryMistress@dreamt.org
Gallery of Shadows the Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List
galleryofshadows@coollist.com
http://www.dreamt.org/galleryofshadows
"the way you come to me is such a mystery, I just reach out and
connect".....Mystery - Shadow Gallery
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:20:53 EST
From: "Josh Walkowicz" <jpwalkowicz@freh-03.freh.purdue.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: too 80's.....
Message-ID: <C10C8232D4@freh-03.freh.purdue.edu>
> "Sorry dude, we're not gonna play it."
>
> "Really? Why not?"
>
> "Too 80's man. Way too 80's......"
>
Maybe if this guy is a moron, and I believe that is a fairly sturdy
limb I am on, he was thinking of Dream Academy, which was one of
those early 80's pop/synth bands.
Josh
jpwalkowicz@physfac.purdue.edu
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 07:39:54 -0700
From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: cdnow
Message-ID: <3623663A.DC64D5BC@pacbell.net>
Trevor W. Hoit wrote:
>
> cdnow has LTE and Shadow Gallery Tyranny for $11.19
> and OiaL for $17.48.
> They currently have a $10 off special and the trivia game for $5-$50
> off.
Okay I see the sale, and I see the quiz... but where the heck is the
other $10 off special?
-- Lisa Marie "Jessie" ytsegirl@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/ytsegirl ________________________________ Ytsejam Radio on Real Audio http://www.dreamt.org/ytseradio------------------------------
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:42:36 -0400 From: "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Tool = DT? Message-ID: <36E02D8151FFD1118C1C00600808ACE56EA037@HAMSXHA2>
>From: Michael Bahr <durnik@goodnet.com> > >Tool is what Dream Theater would have been had DT started ten years later.
Hmm... I don't know if I agree with this or not. I think it would depend on whether or not the members had gotten together ten years later and formed Dream Theater or if they had been born ten years later and followed the same path that they all did. In the former case, I think they'd be a lot like they are today (maybe a little more like LTE than anything else). In the latter case, I think they'd be a lot more like Tool than they are now. But I don't think the core 'progressiveness' of the band (and by 'progressiveness', I mean the mythical, etherial stuff that makes DT what they are) would be compromised in either case.
Just my $.02.
And I'm listening to "Show Me What You Can Do..." with Stu Hamm, Frank Gambale and Steve Smith. So here's the inevitabe comparison between SMWYCD and Vital Tech Tones: stronger performance by Smith this time around as opposed to Vital Tech Tones - he seems to be more comfortable with the improvised jazz format begun in VTT, and this time lets loose a little more. Hamm seems to be more up front than Wooten was, but I think that has a lot to do with his tone - it's a lot snappier and brighter than Wooten's. Gambale's tone has more chorus on it than Henderson's, which fills up a lot of the space on the tracks. The songs seem a little slower and laid back, and the tracks don't seem as strong as they were on VTT (maybe because they seem a little jazzier and less rocky), but the sound of the musicians seems a little better, and compensates for it. If you liked VTT, it's worth checking out.
Nicholas Giannotti Joint STARS Contracting giannottin@hanscom.af.mil "A day without sunshine is like....night."
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 07:42:19 -0700 From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: CDNow quiz/discounts/paying way ???????? Message-ID: <362366CB.E64CC153@pacbell.net>
CyberDuke wrote: > > Can someone PLEASE tell me the URL for the CDNow quiz? But no > www.cdnow.com please, the EXACT URL!
Here's the url: http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=224215318/pagename=/MN/promo.trivia/trivia_home.html but it's only available to those in the US and Canada.
> Also, is it possible that the paying takes place when I receive the > package???
No, CDnow does not offer C.O.D.
-- Lisa Marie "Jessie" ytsegirl@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/ytsegirl ________________________________ Ytsejam Radio on Real Audio http://www.dreamt.org/ytseradio
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:45:24 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Who made this compilation for me? Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9810131215340.5068-100000@jaca>
On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, Dave Peterson wrote:
> The contents of the tape were, among other things: > > Blind Guardian, The Gathering, Tiamat, Opeth, Moonspell, > Dark Tranquility...???
Wow, man!! Opeth, The Gathering and Dark Tranquillity, all in a tape??? That must be a killer tape! To the person that sent you the tape, congratulations.
BTW, Opeth is my favorite band and I've set up an Opeth mailing list. If you'd like to know more about them, please, feel free to check <http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/opeth/>. It has information on how to get into the list and many links to other Opeth homepages.
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:48:53 -0400 From: Ryan Park <rpark@space-dye.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Honorary Roadie sweepstakes Message-ID: <199810131540.LAA15020@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
I also just won $50 in the Honorary Roadie sweepstakes. Magna Carta's "Steinway to Heaven," the new Dream Theater Livetime video and CDs, arriving at my home on the 27th (the release date), for a total of $10.38.
Wow. They better stop this contest soon, before they go out of business!
Ryan
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:02:05 EDT From: NikBrooks@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: LTE2 Latest News Message-ID: <6dfce268.3623797d@aol.com>
Latest scoop from Tony Levins road diary at
http://www.papabear.com/tlev.htm
Love from
N
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Road update: Oct. 11, Milbrook NY., Out of the frying pan...
Crimson rehearsals in Nashville were interesting - but as often happens, after much making of music, we're not quite sure what we'll be playing on tour later this month. Hopefully a tape of what was played will be sent to each of us to be studied.
But now I'm at a studio nestled in a remote corner of New York State - the autumn leaves are bright gold here, and when it's not raining, the air is wonderfully fresh. But that's for the horses to enjoy, cause we (Liquid Tension Experiment) are again locked in a studio without windows, writing and recording round the clock. Ten days to write and record an album - why do we do this to ourselves?? I'm again impressed by how many notes per second the other guys can play! (Jordan Rudess, Mike Portnoy, John Petrucci.) And, as in the last recording, I'm the one struggling to play these blazing parts, and grateful that the others are patient with me. I did, since I knew this was coming, practice my speed Stick playing a bit, so am not hopelessly left behind this time. It's pretty cozy here - four guys, three bedrooms - no wonder we'd just as soon rehearse till after midnight! Quite a change from the Crimson rehearsals, which ususally break by 6pm for dinner and time alone to do the many things which Crims do! I DO have my faithful Saeco Profi machine set up here, so coffee breaks are as they should be; with good fresh espresso.
My book went off to the printer's yesterday -- it's going to be a crunch getting it printed and shipped to Woodstock in time for first orders - perhaps unwisely I took an ad for it in Bass Player Magazine which hits the subscribers at end of October. Seemed, at the time, that I'd have it done by mid October. I'll put another excerpt up here soon.
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:15:24 EDT From: NikBrooks@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: gabbo@dreamt.org Subject: Misheard Lyrics Message-ID: <a7b9ec16.36237c9c@aol.com>
For the misheard lyrics page, will particularly appeal to British fans ;-)
"An angel's kiss, naff all else"
"An angel's kiss, now fallen" ('The Killing Hand' on WDADU).
N
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:21:48 -0500 From: Nicole McWatters <nmcwatters@welcom.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: CDNow, Radio Stations, and MP3s Message-ID: <4E97FD7FB054D211BC8800A0C98379B40CA641@exchange.welcomworld.com>
Hey all! Long time no type! Work's been hell, but what else is new? Some general responses to 'jams of late:
Cyberduke asked: > Can someone PLEASE tell me the URL for the CDNow quiz? But > no www.cdnow.com please, the EXACT URL!
The exact URL for those who can't find the damned icon is: http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=994881857/pagename=/MN/promo.trivia /trivia_home.html
Don't forget, the trivia game is for residents of the US and Canada (with the exception of Quebec), so sorry to all our international 'jammerz.
Joe DeAngelo bitched about Detroit radio: > Bad enough DT doesn't get in regular > rotation...... but they won't even play it as a request!
Yeah, well at least they admitted they've *heard* of DT. Houston radio won't even admit that they exist. But yeah, that's a pretty lame response. Here's to CDs! ;) *Kirby downs a Bud Ice Lite! ;)
Now about MP3s.. I'm a pretty new WinAmp user, and I've got a question regarding playing multiple MP3s in a row (specifically MP3s on CDR). When the next song starts, the wave balance resets to the maximum setting. Anyone know how to fix this?
Well, that's it outta me. At least I'll make a guest appearance on this month's MFP list. ;)
-Nicole/Kirby
Nicole Stachowicz McWatters Publications Department aka Kirby on irc.dreamt.org WST Corporation dba Welcom ytsekirby@geocities.com -or- nmcwatters@welcom.com http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:59:20 -0400 From: "Pat Sullivan" <psull@ici.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: tool Message-ID: <199810131651.MAA18361@bajor.ici.net>
> And why do so many > people automatically assume that the track "Die Eier von Satan" is > a sample of a speech by Hitler or something similar? That's like > assuming every English sample is from the Gettysburg address.
I could be wrong, but I think the intent of that song is to point out that stereotype. It would be right up Tool's alley to do something like that. They're very into pointing out how most people let others do their thinking for them/make their decision for them. So they write a song that is meant to evoke images of a nazi party rally and see who notices.
__Pat Sullivan________________ Email: psull@just-like.nu WWW: http://www.just-like.nu ICQ: 2049374
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:01:26 -0700 From: "Christopher Stearns" <cjstearns@feist.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4335 Message-ID: <199810131753.MAA13552@wichita.fn.net>
> > Well, I have this to say about JP: The first time I REALLY noticed JP's > skills was in "Pull Me Under" (just before the chorus, each time), and I > was amazed even there, because I have never once heard anybody play at the > speed in which he does. As a matter of fact, I didn't think it was > possible for a person to pick a guitar string that fast at all. I > understand that Derek is there on the keyboards with him in a lot of that > song, especially on the fast phrases (at first I thought it was actual > harmony on the guitar, but then realized that it was keyboard), but that > is still some of the absolute most lickety-split guitar playing I've ever > heard. >
Hey dont forget JM he is there even thru the fast part pretty good for a finger style bassist
CJBass
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:03:43 -0400 From: Ivan Navarro <inavarro@mdo.net> To: DT Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: 80's Rock Message-ID: <362395FF.BC743848@mdo.net>
************************** >>"Too 80's man. Way too 80's......"
Does that just blow, or what?????? Bad enough DT doesn't get in regular rotation...... but they won't even play it as a request! It's not like I requested ACOS or LTL either, for God's sake! Not to mention, obviously the guy is totally ignorant of DT, I mean DT's first CD was '89, and their first fairly popular/recognized CD wasn't until '92.......... so how HOW THE FUCK is that too 80's..........<< ***************************
Hey Man, it's OK, think of it this way:
80's = Rush, Queesnryche, Yes (Rabin), etc. 90's = Grunge, and all of the other shit you were complaining they play all of the time!
BTW I realized why I like DT, Savatage, Spock's Beard, and even Shadow Gallery (a little) so much. It's because they're a lot like what I liked most about 80's rock. The fact is (IMHO) it started in the 70's (Zep, Yes, Genesis, etc.) and continues today with the bands talked about on this list. The DJ is mistakingly referring to a style (prog) as "80's" because his feable-close-minded-brain (which BTW caters to other FCMB's) can't comprehend the concept of "progressive rock." Be happy. You are musically more intelligent, a man of taste, and above the lowly masses - elite even.
Long live Progressive Rock!
The I-Man (Back to Lurk Mode)
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:34:56 -0700 From: Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: **DT embroidered HAT/SEE picture!!** Message-ID: <199810131833.OAA19988@camel7.mindspring.com>
Hey all you Ytsejamers- (((THE PICTURE is on the net!)))
If you havent seen the NEW Ytsejam International DT hat, then go to:
www.dreamt.org (look in merchandise)
or check out direct link: www.trsgroup.com
See ya there!!
vaiman@mindspring.com sales@trsgroup.com
w w w . t r s g r o u p . c o m
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:37:53 +0200 From: Marco Petrini <mpetrini@tin.it> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: fundation forum Message-ID: <36239E01.DDA50AD7@tin.it>
somebody out there has a copy of the fundation forum boots...???
please email me privately
Petrus --
e.mail: mpetrini@tin.it
Italian Dreamers Home Page http://www.dreamtheater.net/italy
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:43:51 -0700 From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lockstep Cooking Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981013114351.006c8250@pop.cfmc.com>
Yeah, I'm still around...
>From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu> > >BTW, the recipe on >track 10 or whatever it is, "Die Eier Von Satan", is a recipe for the >Eggs of Satan, a cookie with a bit of hashish in it for an extra kick. >If you'd like the translation, either mail me or check out the lyrics >section at http://toolshed.down.net. First time I heard it, I thought >it was Hitler or something. Nope!
In addition to the information provided by Ms. Rosenblum (with whom I share an alma mater), I'd like to point out that "Die Eier Von Satan" can be translated as "The Balls of Satan." Seriously, it's about the coolest thing ever committed to CD. Progressive Culinary Alternative Metal.
Adam D. Barnhart adamb@cfmc.com ydnt85a@prodigy.com http://www.cfmc.com/adamb
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