YTSEJAM Digest 4344
Today's Topics:
1) Congratulations to the (now larger) Petrucci family
by AL <al@isd.net>
2) CD-R question
by "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfqc@nl1.telmex.net.mx>
3) Powermad CD Scam
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
4) Re:Tool prog?
by AL <al@isd.net>
5) Royal Hunt
by AL <al@isd.net>
6) Funk Fingers
by TEDESCO MATTHEW A <Matthew.Tedesco@Colorado.EDU>
7) How i got into DT
by DrummerEsh@aol.com
8) Re: How did you hear of DT?
by "Jan Opsal" <janopsal@online.no>
9) Website for Jordan Rudess
by Nikki.Brooks@taywood.co.uk
10) More Toilet Paper Please!!
by Nikki.Brooks@taywood.co.uk
11) The Indiffernt Chris DeGarmo...
by Harmon Caldwell <prorangr@arches.uga.edu>
12) LSOAR New look, new content, Hell...we'll just say it's new!
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
13) Tyranny - Bits Sounds like...(NDTC)
by "The I-Man" <inavarro@mdo.net>
14) RE: The Indiffernt Chris DeGarmo...
by "The I-Man" <inavarro@mdo.net>
15) Labels, labels, labels...
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
16) Re: Bass DRum Muffling
by "(just) Asmodel" <asmodel@pils.kvarteret.uib.no>
17) Re: Funk Fingers
by Jason Barden <jbarden@usdbs2.usdb.k12.ut.us>
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4317
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
19) Hey bassists - I've put a mailinglist for us!!!
by Peter Tatischev <tatisch@null.net>
20) Love and Music
by Awake77@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:23:47 -0500
From: AL <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Congratulations to the (now larger) Petrucci family
Message-ID: <3626BC43.58E23D1C@isd.net>
This just in! From the golden fingers of Mr. Derek Sherinian:
John & Rena Petrucci are the proud parents of a new baby girl!
-- AL... The Ytse-ProgtologistSwitchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ St. Mary's home for the occasionally coherent is sponsoring a staring contest --George Carlin
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:52:18 -0600 From: "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfqc@nl1.telmex.net.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: CD-R question Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981015215218.007a25d0@nl1.telmex.net.mx>
Hi!
Does someone knows which program I have to use to copy a live album.? Someone mentioned a program but I can't remember who. I have the easy CD creator and the Sony software.
Thank you!
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:53:33 -0400 From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Powermad CD Scam Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981015235333.00844490@pop.wam.umd.edu>
It's been near two months since Powermad '98 and nobody I've talked to has seen hide nor hair of the promised Powermad 3-CD compilation discs. Dunno about all of you other 'Jammers who attended, but I'm pissed. I paid an extra $10 for a ticket in good faith, told I would receive the aforementioned compilation. What did I get? Nada.
Basically, the way I see it, it's the compilation album or a $10 refund. I understand he works hard to put this thing on (though not nearly hard enough if I were to voice my opinion...), but that's no reason he shouldn't be held accountable for ripping people off.
To anyone else with a similar concern, I suggest E-mailing and/or calling him. If you need contact info, drop me a line -- I've got it relatively handy.
Brian "Cheesed" Henderson
=================================== Name: W. Brian Henderson, Esq. Contact: hender@wam.umd.edu ROBOT-CENTRAL: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/ His Faithful Bootleg Page: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/Musik/Boot/ ===================================
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:34:53 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re:Tool prog? Message-ID: <3626CCEC.8705A628@isd.net>
Matt wrote: >To me there are 2 kinds of progressive:
>1. the shred/technical over the top stuff made popular by bands like ELP, Rush, >and our own DT.
>2. the more cerebral kind, that doesnt really have much shred or technical stuff, >but its more of a "thinking" type music that bands like Pink Floyd, Moody Blues, >and early King Crimson played.
Where would Fates Warning reside? IYO
-- AL... The Ytse-Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Did you say, yutes?" --Fred Gwynne
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:46:41 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Royal Hunt Message-ID: <3626CFB1.2F7656DC@isd.net>
Does anyone know where I can find some Royal Hunt MP3's? I'd like a preview before I run off to the CD store. -- AL... The Ytse-Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Beavis
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:04:35 -0600 (MDT) From: TEDESCO MATTHEW A <Matthew.Tedesco@Colorado.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Funk Fingers Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.981015230201.16531D-100000@ucsub.Colorado.EDU>
Somebody had asked about Levin's funk fingers. Essentially, they're the equivalent of sawed-off drumsticks that attach to the bassist's fingers.
The story is an interesting one about thier invention. When Levin toured with ABWH, he had trouble capturing Squire's trademark picking Rickenbacher sound for the classic Yes stuff. He borrowed two of Bruford's drumsticks, made a few modifications, and there you have it.
--MATt
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 03:24:29 EDT From: DrummerEsh@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: How i got into DT Message-ID: <4c0adcb9.3626f4ad@aol.com>
In a message dated 10/16/98 4:32:20 AM !!!First Boot!!!, ytsejam@ax.com writes:
> since that topic is really trendy,heres my -looong- story:
My story is even longer...A friend pops in Awake in his car stereo, i go crazy!! Next day i buy Awake and Images and Words. Damn that was long sorry to take up so much space hahahaha
~ESH~
"For the first time in a long time...everything was right in my world..and then i woke up" ~Dream Theater~
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:18:52 +0200 From: "Jan Opsal" <janopsal@online.no> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: How did you hear of DT? Message-ID: <199810161218.OAA28557@online.no>
How did i hear of DT? I borrowed a friends computer, and he had "Under a Glass Moon" as the opening music in Windows. (Microsoft will probably sue me now, for mentioning their product without telling everybody that Windows is copyrighted to Microshit! sorry -Microsoft!) Anyway, I asked him who played the music, and he told me it was DT! He recomended some CD's, and two weeks later I bought IAW. I was hooked.
Go to Croma Key's page and download "Colorblind", I love it! Kevin Moore is good without DT too! http://www,cromakey.com
Jonas Opsal aka Xident My Dream Theater Page: http://home.sol.no/~janopsal/dt/ go take a look!
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:27:58 +0100 From: Nikki.Brooks@taywood.co.uk To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Website for Jordan Rudess Message-ID: <77C4F503@MHS>
For those who are interested, Jordan Rudess also has a website though it doesn't get updated as often as the one Tony Levin runs.
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10/6/98 A message from Jordan
Hey Folks,
I'm going into the studio on October 10th to do Liquid Tension #2. Everybody is geared up for another whirlwind session. Should be a blast. After that at the end of October I will go to France to work with guitarist Pierre Bensusan in a piece he is writing for choir and the two of us.
Rudess Morgenstein had a great time a few weeks ago traveling around the UK doing our concert/clinics.
Stay tuned!
Jordan
http://www.mediusvision.com/jordan
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:29:42 +0100 From: Nikki.Brooks@taywood.co.uk To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: More Toilet Paper Please!! Message-ID: <55CBE676@MHS>
I know some of you have already seen this, but for those who haven't, here it is. Seems Tony Levin has a very British sense of humour and in John P's absence it looks like LTE are s******g bricks!!
Road Update: Oct. 14, Millbrook NY - Kiara
John's baby girl was born this morning - her name is Kiara and she is doing fine. But the band, trying to continue recording without our guitarist, is running a bit short of ideas! It's a bit like recording Music Minus One. Hopefully he'll make it back to the studio next week. Late last night we found ourselves discussing what we each like best about this studio (this is our second album here) and found that the private favorite thing of each of us was the same: the toilet paper! It's really soft!! The owner, Paul, won't tell us the brand, so I guess we'll keep coming back here to do our albums in.... comfort.
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:34:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Harmon Caldwell <prorangr@arches.uga.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The Indiffernt Chris DeGarmo... Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.981016081350.32394B-100000@archa10.cc.uga.edu>
Hey all- Well yesterday a buddy of mine and I drove to Atlanta from Athens (about a 1 and half hour drive) to see Chris Degarmo, formerly of Queensryche of course, with Jerry Cantrell. We only went to see/meet/talk to Chris cause I don't know anything about Cantrell. After waiting for around 3 hours outside the venue the tour bus finally arrives and 30 minutes later Chris and the gang emerge from the bus. Chris was wearing a hat, leather jacket, these dorky looking huge sunglasses and dark jeans. Immediately, we both felt a sense of awkwardness as we introduced ourselves. He looked at us funny like, "what are you guys doing here?" I, of course, had my Mindcrime shirt on so I imagine that contributed to it, but he was so indifferent as if he didn't care at all. He did say he would be back cause they were runnin to do sound check, but he sure didn't act thrilled.
After waiting another half hour and then another half hour of watching Chris talking to a security guard, looking back at us and turning back around with no recognition he finally walks down the stairs towards us. Once again, he said very little as my friend and I attempted to ask him some questions. After a couple of standard questions like "We drove out here to see you Chris", with no response I might add, my friend Mike began to ask him the following: "So what was it like...?" At the moment Chris cut him off, gave him the stare from hell and said, "We're not going to talk about any of that!" (meaning Queensryche related information of course) If only there had been a picture taken at that moment cause our faces musta been in complete shock. Stuggling, we tried to ask him a couple of other things but at that moment it all seemed in vain. Thirty seconds later Chris says: "Well I'm going to head back to the bus." This after he'd only been there around a minute. We slowed him down some to get a couple of things signed and managed to get a few pictures snapped, but overall this was a terrible experience for me.
Considering this was my first experience meeting a member/former member of the band which started me down my metal highway I was extremely dissapointed and in shock. I realize the guy's not in QR anymore, but his indifference was not needed. What I realize now is that something did go down between him and the rest of the members of QR, but its something we'll never know. Chris did say he still got along with the rest of the guys, BTW. He may be struggling with his life or whatever, but that just didn't excuse his actions in my opinion. In conclusion, I felt yesterday as I tried to converse with Chris that I truly was looking into "The Eyes of A Stranger".
-Harmon N.P: Hammerfall- Legacy of Kings
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:42:10 -0400 From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: LSOAR New look, new content, Hell...we'll just say it's new! Message-ID: <36274D32.5A1F64D0@wezl.org>
For those not interested, sorry, but I decided I need to plug the webring once again. Go check out http://www.wezl.org/lift We have some Killer new sites in the ring, a TOTALLY new look, feel, and design, and of course...an area to add your own personal tribute to your favorite band...Dream Theater!!! Also a quick congrats to John Petrucci and family (now +1) on the new arrival from myself, and all the sites in the ring!!!! Keep on jammin' fellow DT Enthusiasts!
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:53:53 -0400 From: "The I-Man" <inavarro@mdo.net> To: "YTSEJAM MAILING LIST" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Tyranny - Bits Sounds like...(NDTC) Message-ID: <000301bdf90c$69b2ef20$d3f8f6cc@default>
Does anyone else think that "Broken" (track 7) sounds a bit like "I Don't Like Mondays" by Bob Geldoff and Boomtown Rats?
I-Man
> but there are bits and pieces in there that remind me of another > band that I am totally failing to come up with the name of right > now......so it'll have to wait........
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:21:37 -0400 From: "The I-Man" <inavarro@mdo.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: The Indiffernt Chris DeGarmo... Message-ID: <000401bdf910$48e98b60$d3f8f6cc@default>
Sorry for being harsh, but it seems to me Chris was thinking, "Stalkers!" Think about it, someone drives three hours and waits around for someone they don't even know to show up to say hi! And you didn't even plan on seeing the show??? That's nuts! I bet he was asking the security guard to keep an eye out for his safety. Yeah, you could say he was a dick, but get a life!
-----Original Message----- ]From: ytsejam@ax.com [mailto:ytsejam@ax.com]On Behalf Of Harmon Caldwell Sent: Friday, October 16, 1998 8:51 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: The Indiffernt Chris DeGarmo...
Hey all- Well yesterday a buddy of mine and I drove to Atlanta from Athens (about a 1 and half hour drive) to see Chris Degarmo, <snip>
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:14:08 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Labels, labels, labels... Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9810141615480.25422-100000@jaca>
On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Ivan Navarro wrote:
> To clarify: > Disco - Bee Gees - Nuff said > Dance - Madonna, Alisha etc.
Madonna, Dance?? Hummm... I'd call it pop, even though some of the stuff she's released is Dance, but when I think of Dance, I can't help but remember the following names: Technotronics, DJ Bobo, Aqua, Gloria Stefan etc. But it's been quite a while since I last heard some Dance Music, so this is the reason why the list is this stripped down.
> New Wave - Blondie, Depeche Mode, New Order, etc. > New Age - Andreas Vollenweider (sp?), Shadowfax
You forgot two important exponents of New Age: Loreena McKennit and Enya.
> Heavy Metal - AC/DC, Judas Priest, UFO, Black Sabbath > Progressive - Rush, Zappa, Dixie Dregs, Queesnryche
Zappa is not progressive. Or, at least, in the usual sense. In a very broad sense, he might be classified as that, but if we start allowing many (often diverging) meanings to a given word, then it will lose its usefulness, since it won't serve the purpose of precisely describing the ideas of the speaker.
Zappa has done much more than progressive rock.
> AOR - Stones, Billy Joel, Bob Seger > Glam - Kiss, Warrant, Poison, Twisted Sister, Quite Riot
Humm... Let's label it a little further. :-) I'll limit my list of bands to a line (when I reach the 80th column, I'll stop :-) ).
Prog Metal - Rush (2112/Hem/FtK era)*, Dream Theater**, Symphony X Prog Rock - Gentle Giant*, Yes*, Genesis*, ELP*, Kansas*, Jethro Tull* Italian Prog. Rock - Premiata Forneria Marconi*, Deus ex Machina Rock in Opposition - Univers Zero* Zehul - Shubb Niggurath 1st Gen. of Black Metal - Mayhem, Burzum, Darkthrone 2nd Gen. of Black Metal - Emperor*, Marduk, Satyricon, Dimmu Borgir Melodic Heavy Metal/Power Metal - Helloween, Angra, Gamma Ray, Rhapsody* (Brutal) Death Metal - At the Gates*, Deicide*, Cannibal Corpse (Melodic) Death Metal - In Flames*, Dark Tranquillity*, Crimson*, Carcass* (Progressive) Death Metal - Opeth** Doom Metal - The Gathering*, Amorphis, Katatonia, Solitude Aeturnus* Thrash Metal - Metallica* (KeA/RtL/MoP/AJFA), Megadeth* (PS/RiP), Slayer* "Groovy" (some would say "jazzy") Death Metal - Cynic
Since I don't know anything about punk (and its ramifications), I'll not include the categories here. Bands with asterisks are recommended ones. BTW, you can find MANY more categories of music in <www.progrock.net>, under the Gibraltar Encyclopedia of Progressive Rock (the emphasis in on Progressive Rock, but there are some Progressive Metal bands listed there).
BTW, remember that labels are just an instrument the industry has created to sell records to people restricting their attention to narrow types of music.
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:03:41 +0200 (CEST) From: "(just) Asmodel" <asmodel@pils.kvarteret.uib.no> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Bass DRum Muffling Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.981016135656.18771B-100000@pils.kvarteret.uib.no>
>wow!!! a Tama Artstar II !!! Lucky you guy that live in USA (i think). >Here in Brazil a drum like that should be cost more than US$3.100!!! >(ps: with one bass drum!!!) My dream is to have a Tama (like Portnoy's >set) but is f*ckin difficult here. it's too expensive!!! :( >did you have an idea of the price around there? >damn it!
exactly! thats the problem,not only bands -in the US- have a better distribution,but the gear they buy is much cheaper too! I'm in europe and most of the instruments are imported from the states.Their price gets doubled with all these taxes,especially when it comes to guitars.You can hardly find any cheap eg. Ibanez here,cheapest ones cost around $500.*mad already*
asmodel
____________________________ Yes,I am falling..how much longer till I hit the ground? I can't tell you why I'm breaking down. I can't sleep so I take a breath and hide behind my bravest mask, I admit I've lost control..
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:17:26 -0600 From: Jason Barden <jbarden@usdbs2.usdb.k12.ut.us> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Funk Fingers Message-ID: <36277193.71C45A4A@usdbs2.usdb.k12.ut.us>
Yes Tony does actually use these. I've seen him using them on Saturday Night Live a long time ago with Peter Gabriel. Kinda of a cool funk slap sound he gets with them.
Jason
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:49:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4317 Message-ID: <199810161849.OAA03462@optical.mindstorm.com>
A thousand monkeys in Metzger, Mark's basement typed:
> >> WOAH! That cover kicks ass!! > > Yup, very cool indeed. I just hope that Strom wasn't involved though. > Never know what will be on the back side ...... maybe a bearded clam this > time ........
Somehow, I doubt that if Strom were involved that there would be anything but a priest smoking a Lucky. Now, Storm, on the other hand... :)
ereh saw nam-d
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough d-man@dreamt.org "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates cmerlo@mindstorm.com /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.dreamt.org/d-man \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:49:52 +0400 From: Peter Tatischev <tatisch@null.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hey bassists - I've put a mailinglist for us!!! Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981016234952.0095aec0@messagebox.com>
Hi, jammerz, and particularly those of you who play bass and have any interest in it!!! I've just put up a mailing list for bass players, it's actually connected with the Stu Hamm's Unofficial page, but it doen't really have to do with Stu's music only - it's for topic related to bas, bass playing and whatever!!!
for subscribtion, check out: http://www.glasnet.ru/~tatisch/list.html
cya, ~Pete
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:17:20 EDT From: Awake77@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Love and Music Message-ID: <40262be7.3627a9d0@aol.com>
> > (female jammerz - this is male insight > >#2...pussy takes preferrence over music any day.) > > am i the only female jammer who takes slight offense to this? please...do > take into consideration that some of us actually HAVE taste (GOOD taste > that is) ...blah blah blah words words words... Ok, love and women does NOT take preference over music. SOMETIMES, but not anyday. Not to offend anyone (dont flame me or youll get a fully documented thesis on the subject) , but LOVE IS DEAD. There is no such thing. Women are, and always will be, evil. Evil, by definition, is anything that is at once both unreasonable and unnatural. Now, compare that definition to 90% of the chicks that you know. See? Female Jammers, dont get upset, Im sure youve got an equally sexist viewpoint on men, but, the sad thing is, thats true too. There is no love, there is no compassion, the only thing you can cling to that wont leave you dead and stinkin' is yourself.
-Chris
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