YTSEJAM Digest 4347
Today's Topics:
1) John Myung in Bass Player
by NikBrooks@aol.com
2) Re: Odd Time Stuff
by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
3) Re: Odd Time Stuff
by "appoggiatura !" <appoggiatura@hotmail.com>
4) Re: Once in a livetime
by "oliverp" <Oliver.Ploier@stud.uni-hannover.de>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4346 , JM article
by AyameYuki@aol.com
6) Re: Odd Time Stuff
by AyameYuki@aol.com
7) baby Petrucci...
by DragynLMC3@aol.com
8) LTE2 recordings postponed
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
9) Re: Odd Time Stuff
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
10) Re: 9/8 'n' shit
by Bert Baldwin <rcb@vectorbd.com>
11) Re: Yanni & "Felitsa"
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
12) who got da funky fingahs? me. who got da funk? me.
by Thrak75@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 06:52:12 EDT
From: NikBrooks@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: John Myung in Bass Player
Message-ID: <8ea9fc9.362876dc@aol.com>
AyameYuki@aol.com wrote:
>I was flipping through BassPlayer's newest edition ( Nov 98' ) and i saw one
of those subsciption tags...i thought " this will be BS im sure " but i was
wrong. Lo and behold, John Myung has written a new column...will it stick
around for all us little people who play bass ?>
This is something I brought to the attention of 'The Mirror' list about a
month back. John Myung's first column for the magazine appeared several
months ago and is apparently a bi-monthly occurrence. I think you will find
that this is is third (or maybe second) column for the magazine. Check out
John's Yamaha signature 6 string bass with special considerations on the
weight side if you play bass. Personally I have the Steinberger copy (Hohner)
cricket bat shaped bass (4 string but they made a 5 string too) which is
perfect for girlie bass players under 5'8" tall ...............
N
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:55:20 +0200 (CEST)
From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Odd Time Stuff
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9810171251540.1390-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 darkstar@netxpress.com wrote:
>
> Thanks matt for the input. Oh, and about that 9/8 time..let me see if
> this is correct.. i could count it like 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5? Im jsut now
> getting into the 'crazy world' of odd time 8)
> --darkstar
It depends... 9/8 isn't such an odd measure actually... Normally you would
count it like 1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3, with the emphasis on each 1. This
actually a combination of three 3/8 measures and that isn't odd at all. If
you count your way, you MAKE it odd however. It's quite an interesting
thing you have there:-) That way you have a 5/4 measure wich isn't
complete, there is 1/8 note missing... Hmmm VERY interesting:-)))
Zaphod
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 05:22:26 PDT
From: "appoggiatura !" <appoggiatura@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Odd Time Stuff
Message-ID: <19981017122227.14342.qmail@hotmail.com>
Jam....
Andrew wrote:
>Actually, 9/8 time is almost always counted in three groups of three.
So
>it'd be ONE two three FOUR five six SEVEN eight nine. Compound meters
>(6/8, 9/8, 12/8, etc) are almost always in groups of three (more modern
>music might have it be in other groups than that, but traditionally
it's
>always supposed to be in threes).
>
>If you're counting 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 then it should really be written
in a
>different time signature.
>
Being a musician myself, the above is NOT always the case. You could
9/8 like this: 1 2 1 2 1 2 3 1 2. That's three groups of two and one
group of three. This example can be heard in VOICES by OFB. The
bassline emphasizes the 9/8 beat is this grouping.
This just one of MANY ways to count odd time sigs. and counting
1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 is just as valid a counting process.
(/lower pedestal)
The musician in me comes out and then just as quickly goes back into
lurker mode.
POJ =o)
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:21:57 +0200
From: "oliverp" <Oliver.Ploier@stud.uni-hannover.de>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Once in a livetime
Message-ID: <004601bdf9d5$36f02520$3cb14b82@ollis>
Hey there,
just a quick note from Germany.
Today I asked my local record dealer, if they'd marked Oct. 27th in their
calendar ;-)) Looking rather astonished, I told him the secret, duhh!
And finally he told me that OIAL is scheduled for Mo. 26th! So, keepin' my
fingers crossed, I'll be able to listen and hopefully watch the highlight of
the year...
Bye
Oliver
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:50:47 EDT
From: AyameYuki@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4346 , JM article
Message-ID: <548281fd.3628a0b7@aol.com>
yeah...i was looking at that article...and i do have the one on Deep Six...i
meant the one he wrote for the upcoming Christmas edition...there was one of
those order tabs in the recent issue i got. the deep six one was
great....think he'll write a progressive 12-step jazz version in E major ?
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:57:54 EDT
From: AyameYuki@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Odd Time Stuff
Message-ID: <775ab027.3628a262@aol.com>
hello again. im a musician myself. ( school band, rock band, hick band (
accidental im sure ) , and a lot of other stuff that involves music )...but
9/8 is common in certain types of peices...but 123456789 is correct...if you
are counting in a fast four at about 160 Allegro.
and one time signature that i noticed : 1/4 . that's a rare one. one beat,
quarter note gets the beat. you know how it goes. another one is 6/4...count
it in 6/8 actually. 12 3 45 6.
then the classic 7/8 that David Holsinger ( a good composer for concert bands
) uses. then the usual 2/4. 3/4 . 4/4. 5/4. 6/4 ...and so on. the other rare
one is 5/12, or if you really want to baffle your audience...try 12/8 . ( its
in 4 actually ).
Glad we had edison on our side right ?
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:04:43 EDT
From: DragynLMC3@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: baby Petrucci...
Message-ID: <731f7953.3628a3fb@aol.com>
> Kiara Petrucci
>
> On the morning of October 14th, Rena Petrucci gave birth to
> a healthy baby girl, named Kiara.
born on my birthday! ahh that rocks! :} oh, btw, i was off the jam for a while
but, i'm back for now. (like anyone noticed)
~Lisa
DragynLMC3@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/dragynlmc3/DragynsLair.html
~Credendo Vides~ By Believing, One Sees
The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time. -Bertrand Russell
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:06:43 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: Ytsejam Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: LTE2 recordings postponed
Message-ID: <3628C093.369E2640@caribe.net>
just got this off the official site:
LTE2 recordings postponed
Added on 10-16-1998
Well, as some of you may or may not have heard:
The LTE 2 sessions were off to a great start....and then Mother
Nature called!
John's wife gave birth to a baby daughter, Kiara.
(Congratulations!)
After a couple days of hours & hours of massive improv jams
recorded by myself, Jordan Rudess and Tony Levin, the
session has been posponed until our schedules re-allign next
month.
The good news is that we will get to record & finish what has
started off as another intense "Experiment".
The bad news (for those of you keeping track of upcoming
events...) is that this will likely delay my other project to a later
time....
That's the latest for now....
Mike Portnoy
--"[...] people will cringe..." - John Petrucci
In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro Tech Support Rep : Caribbean Internet Service mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:20:07 -0500 (CDT) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Odd Time Stuff Message-ID: <19981017121058741@ix.netcom.com>
>Actually, 9/8 time is almost always counted in three groups of three. So >it'd be ONE two three FOUR five six SEVEN eight nine. Compound meters
Well, in my band's original, I'm accenting it as (its interchanging 4/4 and 9/8) ONE TWO THREE four ONE two THREE four FIVE six seven eight nine. I guess its just whatever fits the mood of the song. I dunno how our drummer is counting it, though, we might be doing something totally different.
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:10:06 +0000 (UTC) From: Bert Baldwin <rcb@vectorbd.com> To: The YtseJam mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: 9/8 'n' shit Message-ID: <Pine.SCO.3.95.981017170842.14721A-100000@vectorbd.vectorbd.com>
I usually count 9/8 like this (particularly while playing DT) --
ONE two three four, shit, wrong note.
ONE two three four FIVE six, dammit, wrong note.
And this continues for hours at a time.
-- Bert
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:14:49 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Yanni & "Felitsa" Message-ID: <004301bdf9e0$e218ab60$3a1110ac@demccor.clemson.edu>
>> Yanni uses this on Felitsa, and if you don't listen to the rythmn, > >Well, I don't know about that. I play Felitsa on the piano, and I >definitely feel the three-triplet beat. The next time you listen to it, >try counting a three-beat to the music. I think you'll find that it's >incredibly easy to do so.
you misread - he said "Usually when I count the typical shuffle waltz in 9/8 I generaly count real fast 1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3. Yanni uses this on Felitsa..."
you both agree. yay. moo.
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:16:23 EDT From: Thrak75@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: who got da funky fingahs? me. who got da funk? me. Message-ID: <73202a2a.3628b4c7@aol.com>
that's right, muthafuckah.....
i've said before, and i'll say it again. funk fingers are awesome. and they work swell with guitar-playing, believe it or not. i've anally sodomized many a mother while doing such a thing. and they all really liked it.
waiting for noon to call in for tori tickets.... wild koba
************************************************************************ david y. kobayashi new york law school thrak75@aol.com http://www.mzachary.com/wildkoba
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