YTSEJAM Digest 4349
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Categorizing...
by "Dave Peterson" <glyde@hotmail.com>
2) 9/8 Time
by NikBrooks@aol.com
3) Get a life?
by Uroborosss@aol.com
4) RE: Royal Hunt
by "Jon Case" <JLCASE@prodigy.net>
5) Re: The Indiffernt Chris DeGarmo...
by OmegaMusic@aol.com
6) Enchant
by "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfqc@nl1.telmex.net.mx>
7) Re: 9/8 'n' shit
by Younis Hilal <yhilal@cds.caltech.edu>
8)
by "Chris Herbst" <cherbst@usa.net>
9) Re: Powermad CD "scam"...
by "Jason T. Breitweg" <Jason.Breitweg@desy.de>
10) other project
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
11) Jazz Festival info
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
12) D R E A M T H E A T E R D A Y MP3 available
by MASONI Luca <Luca.Masoni@omnitel.it>
13) Re: Odd Time Stuff
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
14) Re: The Indiffernt Chris DeGarmo...
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
15) Love, music, and the GREAT KAT CD-Rom
by "Earle Jason" <earle_jason@bah.com>
16) 9/8--the Last Word
by Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
17) Delay of Portnoy/Morse/Matheos project...
by "Michael Patrick" <civilwar@my-dejanews.com>
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 04:12:20 PDT
From: "Dave Peterson" <glyde@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Categorizing...
Message-ID: <19981018111220.25577.qmail@hotmail.com>
Here's my take on the whole "categorizing" thread:
Bands that sound like Dream Theater: Dream Theater
Bands that sound like Fates Warning: Fates Warning
Bands that sound like Symphony X: Symphony X
I know I'm no fun, but that's my take on it. Pbpbpbpbt!!!
Oh, here's some another ones...
Bands that sound like Rush: Rush, Triumph
Bands that sound like AC/DC: AC/DC, Accept, Jackyl
That's the ONLY way to truly categorize!!! ;)
- You have been bitten by: Dr. Teeth
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 05:49:51 EDT
From: NikBrooks@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: 9/8 Time
Message-ID: <adaf2b42.3629b9bf@aol.com>
In a message dated 10/17/98 11:59:02AM, you write:
>
>Thanks matt for the input. Oh, and about that 9/8 time..let me see if
>this is correct.. i could count it like 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5? Im jsut now
>getting into the 'crazy world' of odd time 8)
>--darkstar
>
9/8 time is counted as 1 & 2 & 3 because it consists of three dotted crotchets
to a bar. It is basically 3 beats per bar with swing, simple as that. No
need to make it sound like rocket science ...
Actually while we are on the subject of TIMING, check out a Mike Portnoy drum
clinic if you can. The way he explains thing is EXCELLENT, even non-musicians
can understand (I was with one of these disadvantaged individuals at such an
event in Paris at the end of February).
N
oops sorry, momentarily forgot to blow my own trumpet!
Nikki Brooks LLCM (Licentiate London College of Music)
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:48:38 EDT
From: Uroborosss@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Get a life?
Message-ID: <7ac951a4.36297326@aol.com>
> From: "The I-Man" <inavarro@mdo.net>
> Subject: RE: The Indiffernt Chris DeGarmo...
>
> Sorry for being harsh, but it seems to me Chris was thinking, "Stalkers!"
> Think about it, someone drives three hours and waits around for someone they
> don't even know to show up to say hi! And you didn't even plan on seeing the
> show??? That's nuts!
I've wanted to meet Dream Theater after every single Dream Theater show I've
ever been to, and I actually have met them a couple of times. I wanted to meet
Steve Vai after G3, and I did. None of that makes me "nuts." Over half of the
people on this mailing list have driven long distances to see DT shows, and
have all had desires to meet the members of the band afterwards. According to
you, are we all nuts? Maybe I'm just misinterpreting what you've written...
> I bet he was asking the security guard to keep an eye out for his safety.
Yeah,
> you could say he was a dick, but get a life!
If I don't have a life, and don't plan on ever getting one, can I say Chris
DeGarmo is Mickey Mouse? If I want to meet Chris DeGarmo AND Mickey Mouse,
will I have less of a life than Harmon?
Bafu Vai
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:49:12 -0700
From: "Jon Case" <JLCASE@prodigy.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: RE: Royal Hunt
Message-ID: <000101bdfa17$fa8a4780$610b73cf@oemcomputer>
Joe wrote:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:06:23 -0400
> From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>
> Subject: Royal Hunt
> Message-ID: <3627FB9F.1A59721B@home.com>
>
>
> > D.C. Cooper sings for Royal Hunt, a melodic metal band (with
> emphasis on
> > symphonic keyboards, but still fairly heavy). He's on their latest (and
> > IMHO finest) album, "Paradox", and the very good previous
> album, "Moving
> > Target."
>
>
> Yes. Get "Paradox". Get it. Get it today. Now.
>
> "Moving Target" is excellent too.
>
> Get them both.
>
>
> - Joe D.
> jdeangelo@home.com
> Magellan on ICQ (# 1872723), and IRC chat
>
I already ordered Paradox from CDNow. I'll send a check shortly, and it'll
be on its way!
Jon Case
!--------------------------!
! Jon Case, resident !
! 201 Plantation Club Dr. !
! #1305 !
! Melbourne, FL 32940 !
! jlcase@prodigy.net !
!--------------------------!
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:16:19 EDT
From: OmegaMusic@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: The Indiffernt Chris DeGarmo...
Message-ID: <f8ad32a9.36290923@aol.com>
My wife used to hang around with QR once in a while in her old groupie days
<grin>. This was well before meeting me. Anyway, she always said that DeGarmo
was very fake and his sincerity was definitely a big act. She really didn't
go for that, which may have been part of the reason she got tired of QR. She
always has good things to say about Rockenfield, but that's it. So, to hear
this, it's no surprise to me. Plus, the dorky clothes are hysterical. Grunge
is over, Chris. Wake up.
Gonz
In a message dated 98-10-16 08:54:02 EDT, you write:
<< Hey all-
Well yesterday a buddy of mine and I drove to Atlanta from Athens (about a
1 and half hour drive) to see Chris Degarmo, formerly of Queensryche of
course, with Jerry Cantrell. We only went to see/meet/talk to Chris cause
I don't know anything about Cantrell. After waiting for around 3 hours
outside the venue the tour bus finally arrives and 30 minutes later Chris
and the gang emerge from the bus. Chris was wearing a hat, leather
jacket, these dorky looking huge sunglasses and dark jeans. Immediately,
we both felt a sense of
awkwardness as we introduced ourselves. He looked at us funny like, "what
are you guys doing here?" I, of course, had my Mindcrime shirt on so I
imagine that contributed to it, but he was so indifferent as if he didn't
care at all. He did say he would be back cause they were runnin to do
sound check, but he sure didn't act thrilled.
After waiting another half hour and then another half hour of watching
Chris talking to a security guard, looking back at us and turning back
around with no recognition he finally walks down the stairs towards us.
Once again, he said very little as my friend and I attempted to ask him
some questions. After a couple of standard questions like "We drove out
here to see you Chris", with no response I might add, my friend Mike began
to ask him the following: "So what was it like...?" At the moment Chris
cut him off, gave him the stare from hell and said, "We're not going to
talk about any of that!" (meaning Queensryche related information of
course) If only there had been a picture taken at that
moment cause our faces musta been in complete shock. Stuggling, we tried
to ask him a couple of other things but at that moment it all seemed in
vain. Thirty seconds later Chris says: "Well I'm going to head back to
the bus." This after he'd only been there around a minute. We slowed him
down some to get a couple of things signed and managed to get a few
pictures snapped, but overall this was a terrible experience for me.
Considering this was my first experience meeting a member/former member of
the band which started me down my metal highway I was extremely
dissapointed and in shock. I realize the guy's not in QR anymore, but
his indifference was not needed. What I realize now is that something did
go down between him and the rest of the members of QR, but its something
we'll never know. Chris did say he still got along with the rest of the
guys, BTW. He may be struggling with his life or whatever, but that just
didn't excuse his actions in my opinion. In conclusion, I felt yesterday
as I tried to converse with Chris that I truly was looking into "The Eyes
of A Stranger".
-Harmon
N.P: Hammerfall- Legacy of Kings
>>
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:42:24 -0600
From: "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfqc@nl1.telmex.net.mx>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Enchant
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981019004224.0079c520@nl1.telmex.net.mx>
Hi!
Just to inform you that the Enchant's official home page has been updated
and renewed.
http://www.ccnet.com/~theoasis/enchant.htm
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:22:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Younis Hilal <yhilal@cds.caltech.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: 9/8 'n' shit
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.981018225602.10604B-100000@crane.cds.caltech.edu>
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> From: Bert Baldwin <rcb@vectorbd.com>
>
>
> I usually count 9/8 like this (particularly while playing DT) --
>
> ONE two three four, shit, wrong note.
>
> ONE two three four FIVE six, dammit, wrong note.
Hmmm. I don't think this is quite right. The top count would give you a
sig of 7/8 and the bottom one would give 10/8. Try something like this:
ONE two three four eat shit goddammit
or, if you like to avoid taking God's name in vain,
ONE two three four I will kill my dog
Happy counting!
Younis Hilal------------------------yhilal@cds.caltech.edu
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 02:22:58 -0400
From: "Chris Herbst" <cherbst@usa.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
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Date: 19 Oct 1998 09:50:41 +0200
From: "Jason T. Breitweg" <Jason.Breitweg@desy.de>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Powermad CD "scam"...
Message-ID: <tkuems5t2ge.fsf@zussun4.desy.de>
Hi all,
Mike> Actually, I have mine. Continuing in the theme of
Mike> Powermad1998 in general, the mailing got screwed up, so some
Mike> people have theirs already, and some won't get it for
Mike> another week or more. If anybody really wants to know the
Mike> story, email me, and I'll tell you.
Is it possible to buy these 3CD sets? Once again I didn't make it to
PowerMad since the cost to come from Germany was quite high. But I
would still like to get the CDs. Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Jason
-- +-------------------+----------------------------+ | Jason T. Breitweg | Home: +49 040 23 80 98 90 | | Muenzstr. 11 | Work: +49 040 89 98 31 57 | | D-20097 Hamburg | FAX: +49 040 89 98 30 92 | | GERMANY | Mobil: +49 0171 176 79 37 | +-------------------+----------------------------+ | E-mail: Jason.Breitweg@desy.de ICQ: 7495933 | | Web Site: http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg | +------------------------------------------------+------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:22:15 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: other project Message-ID: <70F2A25BBC4DD21194B400A024D1C34128E689@ms.kallback.com>
> The bad news (for those of you keeping track of upcoming > events...) is that this will likely delay my other project to a > later > time.... > That's the latest for now.... > Mike Portnoy > So what is that "other project"?
Trevor (trying to keep track of upcoming events)
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:54:12 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Jazz Festival info Message-ID: <362B0C44.6F26F69E@mol.com.mk>
MIKE STERN KICKED ASS LAST NIGHT!
The drummer Richie Morales was a monster, jazz rock at its finest. Richie was especially intereting because of diversiry of styles he used - from classical jazz to straight hard rock. And Mike, he's really excelent guitarist. He didn't played distorted as much as I wanted, but when he did he was REALLY doing it! ;)
I got Mike's and Richie's signuture on my Jazz Festival pamphlet! :)
1 more night to go, John Scofield Band!!!! -- Later, CyberDuke
Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail duskob@mol.com.mk ICQ# 17392722
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:44:44 +0200 From: MASONI Luca <Luca.Masoni@omnitel.it> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: D R E A M T H E A T E R D A Y MP3 available Message-ID: <81FB1A684FF8D011A2A90020AFC5710DA8D9BD@omin058.omnitel.it>
Hi guys I'm the bass player of 'Onde Rock' , the group that play during the 'Dream Theater Day' on 3-Oct in Italy. As I have promised you some time ago the MP3 files are starting to be available on the NET. I have to send a BIG thank to bungle that do deposit our files on his site. THANK YOU Bungle! The page's address is http://www.dtcovers.frag.hu/
The complete list of songs is:
Pull Me Under The Silent Man The Mirror Another Day Peruvian Sky/Enter Sandman The big medley Wait For Sleep Surrounded Under A Glass Moon
Three songs of the show do not appear and are: the Simpson Theme (opening the show) , mission impossible and Erotomania. I'm sorry for that.
at the moment only 3 songs are available: another day ftp://www.dtcovers.frag.hu/pub/dtcovers/Anotherd.mp3 pull me under ftp://www.dtcovers.frag.hu/pub/dtcovers/Pullme.mp3 under a glass moon ftp://www.dtcovers.frag.hu/pub/dtcovers/Uagm.mp3
during this week i'll send rimanent MP3 to Bungle. Do visit his very interesting page.
You'll find the cover artworks of live CD 'Dreaming for a day' and band information ( in english ) on Onde Rock's Home page at http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Thinktank/9704/
I'll see me soon here for news. Hi everibody.
PS sorry for my spaghetti english. Luca Masoni WWW: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/9010/
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 08:11:33 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Odd Time Stuff Message-ID: <001801bdfb59$9d0a4900$3a1110ac@demccor.clemson.edu>
>5/12 you speak of? Funny how in 12 years of musical education, including a >degree from Berklee, I've never come across it. What is a 12th note? That
BERKLEE'S NO FUCKING GUARANTEE!! :)
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 08:23:28 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: The Indiffernt Chris DeGarmo... Message-ID: <004a01bdfb5b$46eee920$3a1110ac@demccor.clemson.edu>
>this, it's no surprise to me. Plus, the dorky clothes are hysterical. Grunge >is over, Chris. Wake up.
yeah, gotta keep with the trends. can't be individual and do what you want. it's not hip! Moo.
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:48:42 -0400 From: "Earle Jason" <earle_jason@bah.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Love, music, and the GREAT KAT CD-Rom Message-ID: <362B433A.A28066FF@bah.com>
Well, as a catalyst in all this mess (I'm the originator of the "pussy over music anyday" remark), I feel obligated to say a few things, especially to our good friend Chris:
1) Pussy != love (that means "DOES NOT EQUAL" for anyone out there who replies faster than they think...) 2) Anyone who compares a dude who is pissed off at the world cuz love sucks to HITLER has some serious friggin' issues with reality (caugh caugh MAX caugh caugh). 3) Women *ARE* evil, and we (or at least I and the occasional lesbian) love 'em anyways 4) The LTE group should enlist the aid of the new Petrucci kid (Kiara?) - since by the age of 5 days, she is probably playing faster and more accurately than most of us... 5) Saturday was my birthday - I'm an ancient and decrepit 23 years old 6) There has to be love, because Alice Cooper's 1974 classic "I love the dead" would make NO sense otherwise 7) Anyone have or seen a review for the Great Kat's music intruction CD-Rom? 8) Happy birthday to me
Well that's all. Appreciate any comment/flames/ RESPONSES ON GREAT KAT CD-ROM.
Have a great day!
-Da Birthday Looooooeeeeeeee (Eatin' Cheerios and Fuckin' dead ho's)
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:51:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org> To: we be ytsejamming <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: 9/8--the Last Word Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.981019094020.15390A-100000@gs.bass.org>
All right, everyone, settle down. I'm weighing in on this hotly debated topic. The Perfesser screams: you're all correct. There is no "wrong" way to count any time sig. There are "standard" ways, and if something is done differently, i.e. three groups of 2 and one group of 3, it can lead to a disparity in notation, or at least differences of interpretation. Regardless, let no one tell you how to accent anything; play what's in your heart. In Supper's Ready by Genesis, there's a part entitled "Apocalypse in 9/8" where Tony Banks plays running triplets while the band turns the beat around as such: ONE two three FOUR five SIX seven eight nine. Which sounds like 3 measures of 9/8 if you take the triplets as the eighth or one measure of 9/8 if you follow the guitar/bass/drum pattern. Interpretation, Shminterpretation. Whatever.
P
NP Spock's Beard: Beware of Darkness Dexter Gordon: Live at Carnegie Hall ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul's musical quote for the Month:
There's something in the air/ and you don't know what it is/ You see someone through a window/ that you've just learned to miss/ and the road leads on to glory/ but you've used up your last wish
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 06:55:25 -0700 From: "Michael Patrick" <civilwar@my-dejanews.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Delay of Portnoy/Morse/Matheos project... Message-ID: <LBAKJKEKPBNHDAAA@my-dejanews.com>
THIS SUCKS.
Hey, dump Portnoy and get Paul Craddick (could there be a more under-appreciated player out there?) to do it.
Seriously, I LOVE Mike' playing, and I realize that this is going to be total flame-bait, but why does every supergroup now revolve around him? Well, I can answer that myself: Mike (and DT's reputation) sells records.
It's tough to be us, isn't it?
Mike
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