YTSEJAM Digest 4364
Today's Topics:
1) Correct Man
by "Max Verran" <maxverran@hotmail.com>
2) Have 2 disagree
by "Max Verran" <maxverran@hotmail.com>
3) Bafu Hydra?
by Uroborosss@aol.com
4) Re: Kerrang...
by ASHLEY WONG <ETL.ETLAYWG@mesmtpse.ericsson.se>
5) Re: Stained Glass release date
by Edward Polzin <polzin@uiuc.edu>
6) Don't take this ass-whuppin' personal...
by "Earle Jason" <earle_jason@bah.com>
7) YA YO GAKK!
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
8) Stuph
by "Christian A Schulze" <killmary@mailexcite.com>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4363
by drussell29@juno.com (Daniel C Russell)
10) Re: Dear Korgy
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
11)
by Ryan P Skadberg <skadz@mindstorm.com>
12) Maiden
by schnapster@juno.com (Dale R Newberry)
13) Accept 'n' sheot
by fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender)
14) Review my page?
by "Jan Opsal" <janopsal@online.no>
15) I GOT IT!!!!!!!
by "Dennis Leeflang" <dl@xs4all.nl>
16) Re: I GOT IT!!!!!!!
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
17) Re: I GOT IT!!!!!!!
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
18) Re: new King's X
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
19) ANGRA
by "Matija" <fmatias@peoples.com.ar>
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:23:11 PDT
From: "Max Verran" <maxverran@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Correct Man
Message-ID: <19981022102312.2808.qmail@hotmail.com>
Bafu Vai wrote:
>>>So what made Correct Man think that apost
about 5/12 time had anything to do with 12th notes? ???<<<
This shows how little you know. You guys admit that you know nothing,
and then try to argue it.
Listen good 5/12 means there are 5 __***12th notes***__ per measure.
If you don't even know what a time signature is, then shut up about it!
-maX
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:33:09 PDT
From: "Max Verran" <maxverran@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Have 2 disagree
Message-ID: <19981022103310.711.qmail@hotmail.com>
The Ytse-Proctologist wrote:
>>>IMHO, I think the top 20 albums of all time should be limited to
oneentry
per band. Otherwise it's just too damn slanted. Anyone else
agree?--<<<
No way! This should reflect the honest opinion of the listeners.
Otherwise, you're asking for a top 20 band list, not album list. Well, I
think DT has more than 1 album that deserves 2 go here.
Personally, I would not consider Awake one of them.
But what if someone actually thought that all of DTs albums were the
best they had heard? They should be able 2 voice that.
And if other bands like Rush or Queensryche come up a lot, well, it's
reflective of the music of the ytsejam. I for one will be HONEST with my
entry.
This will include Robert Miles, TaDream (of course), Depeche Mode, and
more than 1 album by Queensryche (Rage and Empire)...
-maX
tangerine DREAM theater
LIVE 2CD!
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 06:53:43 EDT
From: Uroborosss@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Bafu Hydra?
Message-ID: <d4d16605.362f0eb7@aol.com>
I've just discovered why arguments with Chris Ptacek are so darn tough. Just
now I read a post by him in which he quoted a slew of different people
(including myself), but for some reason attributed all the opinions to ME. He
thinks I'm four different people, thus he attacks with the ferocity necessary
to slay a four-headed beast.
Sorry Chris, but I can't reply here. The subject of [removed. -kbibb] banned
because [removed. -kbibb] didn't wash across a single notch [removed. -kbibb]
internal bleeding?
Bafu [removed. -kbibb]
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:38 +0200
From: ASHLEY WONG <ETL.ETLAYWG@mesmtpse.ericsson.se>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Kerrang...
Message-ID: <199810221138.khjW@eds.ericsson.se>
--- Received from ETL.ETLAYWG +44-1444-231883 98-10-22 13:38
-> ytsejam(a)ax.com
Hello All, esp UK jammers! :)
Yeah, you're too right about Kerrang, They seem to have some agenda agai=
nst
DT and basically prog-metal/rock in general. I normally just have a qui=
ck
flick through it for concert dates, otherwise their articles tend to be
stuck up Manson's bottom most of the time.
On a happier note, I managed to find a copy of 'Classic Rock', as recomm=
end
ed by Nik. Now that is a quality magazine, something I've definitely bee=
n l
ooking for, for a long time. It's quite similiar to 'Metal CD', does any=
bod
y remember that?, it was cancelled about 4/5 years ago. That also had in=
for
mative reviews, interviews, articles, and a CD with every issue.
Well, I'm off to the Forum tonight to see DIO - yeah! long live rock and=
r
oll, rainbows, dragons etc. :)
see you later,
ash.
ps. did anybody else from here go to see Anthrax at the Astoria last wee=
k?
Now, *that* was 'definition' of metal :)
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 06:57:15 -0500
From: Edward Polzin <polzin@uiuc.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Stained Glass release date
Message-ID: <362F1D9B.C8AB75D8@uiuc.edu>
Have been gone from the list for about a year now and just rejoined. I
was wondering if someone could explain what Scarred Records was?
thanks.
"D. Frantz" wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of Scarred Records has opened pre-ordering for
> Stained Glass yet?
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:21:58 -0400
From: "Earle Jason" <earle_jason@bah.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Don't take this ass-whuppin' personal...
Message-ID: <362F3176.26600F87@bah.com>
> What the hell? There's always something to love. Somepeople love watching
> operas. Some people love watching Stone Cold Steve Austin
> plant Vince McMahon facefirst into the mat.
YES YES YES YES YES - anyone who makes a reference to professional
wrestling kicks way more ass than is probably healthy. Kudos to Washburn
(same as Korgx3??????)
-Looooooeeeeeee
"I enjoy wrestling".
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:15:54 -0600
From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: YA YO GAKK!
Message-ID: <004801bdfdce$f2a609e0$0201010a@chuck>
>>Anyway, the woman said "Forget 7-16, check DIS." and she signaled to
>Great story, but that still wasn't 5/12 time. Measures of five notes
OK, not only did Skadz declare that we have beat this dead horse into mush,
but I can't believe how many of you are unable to comprehend when Bafu is
making a joke and/or when he's being serious. For starters, Bafu is NEVER
serious. There you go. :)
>The point is that certain things are simply theoretically impossible in
>the limits of our physical way of life as with our systems of
What the hell as that all about? Dr. Mosh has skipped my last two crack
shipments but still all of these guys are getting it? Amen, Dr. Mosh is the
Mike Bahr of the underworld. :)
MaX the ytse-nazi thus chimed:
>If you don't even know what a time signature is, then shut up about it!
I agree. If you've never met God, you shouldn't be allowed to believe in
Him. The same goes for Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, Bigfoot, etc...
>Washburn (same as Korgx3??????)
Yah. Washburn's my other home email account. Forgot to switch over the
account before sending that one. I get all of my unsolicited mail with that
one. :)
Anyway,
-- KorgX3 NP: Ben Lassaude: In My Pants------------------------------
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:33:10 -0700 From: "Christian A Schulze" <killmary@mailexcite.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Stuph Message-ID: <DGGEBGEECBMAAAAA@mailexcite.com>
On 5/12: << Yes. Yes I am. I hereby asign that gay "Prince" symbol to be the offic= ial symbol of a twelfth note. Turn the mother fucker upside down,and you = now have the "Looooeeeee official 13th note" symbol. Lets see ifwe can't = get some usage out of this queer-ass little character.>>
Listen to Uncle Ptacek. There is no such thing as 12th notes. Music is ma= th. A 12th note would be like writing stuff down in octals or hexadecimal= s or even binary code, rather than our standard numeric notation, which i= s in the base of 10. But that=B4s not why I=B4m writing. I just wanted to note that it was une= cessary to throw some homophobia into this discussion.
On Ray Gillen: <<He is also on a Black Sabbath album that was never released since theyd= umped his vocals for Ian Gillan or someone like that. I guess it isavaila= ble in boot form.>>
I just saw that CD here in Brazil. It does NOT have Ian Gillan on vocals.= It=B4s not a boot, it=B4s just out of print in most places. It says "Bla= ck Sabbath Featuring Tonny Iommi", and the name of the CD is either Seven= th Star or Midnight Star. The cover has Tony Iommi=B4s picture and it was= supposed to be his solo album but the record company would not release i= t unless it had the name Black Sabbath on the cover. Oh yeah, the Black Sabbath album with Gillan is called Born Again and has= that cute little demon baby on the cover.
Latah. Bark bark bark (am I TheDogGod now?).
KillMary
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:15:39 -0400 From: drussell29@juno.com (Daniel C Russell) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4363 Message-ID: <19981022.121621.6806.0.drussell29@juno.com>
I was wondering if anyone on the Jam was selling the unreleased live tracks from the FII tour???? If you are or know where I can get them...please mail me in private..thanks
Dan Russell "Find All You Need In Your Mind, If You Take The Time"
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:41:30 -0600 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Dear Korgy Message-ID: <000e01bdfddf$20d05360$0201010a@chuck>
>Dear Korgy, > > How does a Scotsman find a sheep in tall grass?
Now, whereas the American shepherd can summon his flock with the resounding sharp "zip" of his trousers coming down, a poor Scotsman, who would be wearing a kilt, would not have this means to attract his herd. Therefore, they bred and trained sheepdogs to control the sheep for them so they could lounge about carving pornography into trees and practicing ventriloquism. Ever see a Scotsman rape a tree? It sure isn't a pretty sight. :P
Because you asked... -- KorgX3 NP: Trans-Siberian Orchestra: Christmas Eve and Other Stories.
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:56:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan P Skadberg <skadz@mindstorm.com> To: jdeangelo@home.com Cc: ytsejam@axnet.net Message-ID: <13871.29122.422163.373065@optical.mindstorm.com>
Joe writes: > Could somebody send me the missing 'jams, or email me the address of > where the old Jams are? If it's ftp://ftp.dreamt.org/pub/ytsejam/ , > that's way outdaded, and the last one on there is 2382. What's up > with that?
Ummm, it is ftp://ftp.dreamt.org/pub/ytsejam/
I just checked and the last jam there is ytsejam.4363 and everything between 2098 and that are there. Not sure what you saw, but they are definately all there. Also, I am working on a resend program whicih you can use via the web to get old jams. It should be done RSN.
Skadz
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:16:01 -0500 From: schnapster@juno.com (Dale R Newberry) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Maiden Message-ID: <19981022.131644.9278.2.schnapster@juno.com>
Hey, I just lost some mail due to a power outage, so could the dude who posted about Maiden stuff mail me?
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:26:14 +0200 From: fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Accept 'n' sheot Message-ID: <v01510100b25523f8879a@[194.7.144.177]>
Previously, on the Ytsejam:
Cyberwolf wrote: >1) Accept does not sound like AC/DC.
Sorry to burst your bubble, dude, but they do! In fact, I remember an interview with Udo from looooooooooong ago, when one of the guitarists left (can't remem- ber his name, but he came back later) where he said that anyone who auditioned for the job had to play some AC/DC tune or another just to be considered.
Mike wrote: >That would be the coolest thing to ever happen in music. I think it >would add a broad influence of music rather than this top 10ish kinda >thing. Liquid fingers - I like that. He is BY FAR the most incredible >keyboardist I have ever heard.
Please, DO NOT start this shit again. It's been dealt with over and over. Derek is in DT, and he does a great job, live with it!
Earle Jason wrote: >judging from the lack of responses, I guess no one has seen or baught >that Great Kat instructional CD-Rom?
The Great Kat? Instructional? Muahahahahaha! This IS a joke, right?
MaxAmundo wrote: >So when I send you an ELEPHANT with pink and blue triangles and swirly >designs and polka dots, in Apple/Pie/Banana time signature, and then >tell you that's the music that you're supposed to play exactly the way I >hear it, well I guess you'll just have to figure it out.
So you're the one who got Korg's crack shipment 8^P
FiveNgroK CP: The Spliff Radio Show
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:52:13 +0200 From: "Jan Opsal" <janopsal@online.no> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Review my page? Message-ID: <199810221951.VAA10533@online.no>
Hi! Could anyone please take the time to visit my DT page and tell me what they think about it?
I need some feedback! I have gotten one message saying my page is nice, but that just doesn't help me too much....
Please visit my page and use the feedback form on the page. Include: what's missing? What's good? more of.... anything else!
The URL: http://home.sol.no/~janopsal/dt/
Thanx! I really appreciate it!
Jonas Opsal aka. "Xident"
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:09:58 +0200 From: "Dennis Leeflang" <dl@xs4all.nl> To: "YTSEJAM MAILINGLIST" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: I GOT IT!!!!!!! Message-ID: <001301bdfdf7$f2df1ea0$15876dc2@dl.xs4all.nl>
Well since my settings should be ok by now... (thanks to my dear friend Sebastjan).... I will not hesitate to tell u this...:
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Guess what's smiling at me, lying on the desk in front of me right now.... Well.... since I work in a record store..... I now am the owner of a real copy of "THE NEW ONE"....... FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!! Well actually it isn't on sail 'till tomorrow, but.... oh well.... I'm so exited I'm not even able to tell you anything objective about it yet..... It's KILLER!!!!!! High quality as we expected...... All the good stuff + jams + solo's + medley's...... Wow If I want to listen to the whole record just tonight (came home at 9:30), will be up 'till tomorrow morning or so........ Anyone have it also yet...?
I am not dissapointed.........
Ta da
Dennis Leeflang......
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:49:05 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: I GOT IT!!!!!!! Message-ID: <005b01bdfe05$eaa95760$3a1110ac@demccor.clemson.edu>
same here, this is when it's really nice to work at a radio station - they got it as a promo and the chief announcer is such a sweetie that he reserved it for me to review for rotation :) trust me, i'll be playing this plenty. try and get DT some more recognition here in the land of jimmy buffet. peeking inside, it features what appears to be the latest step in the quest for individuality - yet another new kind of double-CD case (oh yaeh it's slimline for those of you who bitched/wondered way back when :) complete with hard-to-get-at 2nd CD and hinges weaker than the ones that hold the liner notes, thus promising 75% more of those catastrophic case-droppings you've grown to love.
and i think i get the idea of the cover art, that one dude had the right idea i think - the guy has an auditorium in his head, which was used to put on plays, hence the "dream theater" part. but i think there's also the fact that it's not like one of those theaters where they usually put on plays, but an auditorium, the kind of place a band might play "live". maybe, just maybe...
and the new font don't look that bad on the cover, IMO, cuz it's filled in and bevelled. the one i don't like is the outline one i've seen around.
as someone mentioned, the changes they do to the songs are quite cool (for those of us who haven't gotten to see them live i guess). overall a cool-ass CD.
dream theater kicks ass. moo.
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:01:18 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: I GOT IT!!!!!!! Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9810221955130.14266-100000@jaca>
On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, Dennis Leeflang wrote:
> High quality as we expected...... All the good stuff + jams + solo's + > medley's...... Wow If I want to listen to the whole record just tonight > (came home at 9:30), will be up 'till tomorrow morning or so........
Hah, you know, it's funny, but I frequently have the same problem: I find myself staring at my collection of CDs undecided, thinking what I'd pick up to listen on my car.
When I get home, things get worse, because I simply can't go to sleep without first listening to some music (I often get asleep while listening to something on my Discman). When I get a new 2CD boot, I wonder: so, it's 11pm right now and I'd love to listen to the whole thing, but I'll have to wake up tomorrow very early...
Well, "so much music, so little time..." :-)
[]s, Roger...
P.S.: And my collection of CDs is not even big. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:38:19 -0400 From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: new King's X Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19981022183819.007a2eb0@mail.erinet.com>
To the guy who asked...
It's rocks!!! Sort of a mix of "Dogman" and "Ear Candy"..ie - it's got the hard stuff, it's got the poppy stuff, but it's also got some variety.
doug sings most songs, ty sings one.
and they won't do more than 3 songs from it on tour. they'll do more when they do their Tape Head tour leg starting in January 1999.
Dan
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:11:19 -0300 From: "Matija" <fmatias@peoples.com.ar> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: ANGRA Message-ID: <000201bdfe12$56bc7660$37710ed1@matiasfr>
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