YTSEJAM Digest 4367
Today's Topics:
1) Sorry....
by "Dennis Leeflang" <dl@xs4all.nl>
2) Enter Sandman
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
3) Re: ICQ
by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
4) Re: radio
by schnapster@juno.com (Dale R Newberry)
5) DT MP3s on Internet
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
6) where it's at!
by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
7) Flight of the Bumble Bee
by YtseJamJMB@aol.com
8) Awesome band [angra]
by "Matija" <fmatias@peoples.com.ar>
9) Industrial prog sample
by "earthblind, starbound" <leper@mindspring.com>
10) MP Fessed Up On This One.
by Nshsunsfan@aol.com
11) Re: MP Fessed Up On This One.
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
12) asdf
by DRUMSBH@aol.com
13) Drummers and Enthusiasts
by Nshsunsfan@aol.com
14) Finding Dream Theater --- lol
by Nshsunsfan@aol.com
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4366
by James Lutz <ytsejim@optonline.net>
16) THE TOP 20
by "Max Verran" <maxverran@hotmail.com>
17) Re: asdf
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
18) OIALT is out !!!!
by Wino Emmanuel <ewino@mail.dotcom.fr>
19) OIAL - no secrets revealed
by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
20) Re: TAMP demo version (oh no!)I&W MAG?
by "Dream Theater" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com>
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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 21:29:04 +0200
From: "Dennis Leeflang" <dl@xs4all.nl>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Sorry....
Message-ID: <000b01bdff84$911e7420$03856dc2@dl.xs4all.nl>
I apologise to all dudes who don't have the album yet.... Let's put the idea
in the fridge......
Won't tell anymore 'till u lot got it.... Tell me when you do....
Stickmaster D.....
>I'm so exited.......
("Carry me to the shoreline
Bury me in the sand...")
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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 12:28:21 -0700
From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Enter Sandman
Message-ID: <36322A54.52E7BF9@ucla.edu>
This is probably an obscure reference that no one here is gonna know
about.. but Ill chance it. Does anyone know who wrote Enter Sandman
first? I heard Die Krupps doing it a LONG time ago, perhaps pre 80's.
Ive never been much of a Metallica fan, so I dont know when they
released their version. I was just wondering, cus on both albums it
says each band wrote the song, and I dont think thats possible.
Cheers,
Amanda
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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 22:10:40 +0200
From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: ICQ
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19981024201040.006d592c@unet.univie.ac.at>
<<Hey, doesn't anyone ever chat in the &ytsejam ICQ room??>>
No.
why should we as long as we have IRC...
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download my ingenious demo at http://www.users.cloud9.net/~textral/dryheat.html
Dryheat (...in Houston they say that?)
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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 15:47:19 -0500
From: schnapster@juno.com (Dale R Newberry)
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: radio
Message-ID: <19981024.154719.6478.4.schnapster@juno.com>
Hey, just wanting to say that I did hear the release for OIAL no the
radio the other day (96.7 KCMQ in Columbia, MO for anyone who might be
curious). If I remember correctly, I think it was in an ad for Slacker's
new/used CD store.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:13:05 +0100
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: DT MP3s on Internet
Message-ID: <363250F1.58B637EE@mol.com.mk>
Hi!
I would just like to tell to the folks webmastering the sites with DT
MP3s that most of the links doesn't work! This would refer primarily to:
http://www.users.skynet.be/JohnPetrucci/ , and
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/1566/sounds.htm
Also, does anyone knows some more info about the DT chat on 29-th
October?!?! More exact timing, time zones 'n stuff? Where, how?
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Later, CyberDuke
Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/
E-mail duskob@mol.com.mk
ICQ# 17392722
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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:46:05 -0400
From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: where it's at!
Message-ID: <363258AD.C3BBF4F1@bigfoot.com>
>no. never. irc.dreamt.org #ytsejam and #ytseradio is where it's at.
>
>i've got two turntables and a microphone,
You know, my favorite part of the song is where they get one of the
Tranformers(which one, though? maybe it was a Go-Bot) to sing that line.
Where do robots get talent agents, anyway? And what do they get paid in,
energon cubes? Those stinkin' robots, taking all the jobs away!
-- Joshua Rasiel jrasi@bigfoot.com www.j51.com/~mrasiel "Shop Smart. Shop...S-Mart!"------------------------------
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 19:48:01 EDT From: YtseJamJMB@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Flight of the Bumble Bee Message-ID: <398c909d.36326731@aol.com>
I suggest that all you guitar players go to UACM and check out the "Flight of the Bumble Bee" guitar tab.
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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 15:58:28 -0300 From: "Matija" <fmatias@peoples.com.ar> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Awesome band [angra] Message-ID: <000001bdffab$c299ed00$36710ed1@matiasfr>
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Angra is another truly awesome band, and these guys are from Brazil! They are almost unheard of in the States, which is a major bummer. = Their albums must be purchased as imports. Every member in this band is extremely talented. The latest album I got, Holy Land, has so much = going on in the songs it is amazing. They manage to incorporate = symphonic-type classical variations in the music. The drummer is into adding a slight = Latin flavor to the already inventive percussion. These are the bands I = really dig because you can tell every member is exceptionally gifted and they all = get to show off in the music. =20 I will never understand why this music is not in the U.S. The radio = stations where I live SUCK. I can't figure out why talent isn't very popular = here. Anyways... ok, enough of my complaining. =20 Angra's music is very powerful. When you listen to it you are sucked = in as if you are watching a movie. The music is truly intense and I think = you will really enjoy . sounds clips: "dark cloud page" =20 Members: =20 1. Kiko Loureiro - Guitars=20 2. Luis Mariutti - Bass 3. Andre Matos - Vocals 4. Ricardo Confessori - Drums 5. Rafael Bittencourt - Guitars=20 See you and don't miss this music !!!!! angra is now in Argentina Playing 3 concerts! See you! Agustin
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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 21:04:32 -0400 From: "earthblind, starbound" <leper@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Industrial prog sample Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981024210432.0079b9e0@pop.mindspring.com>
Hi folks. I apologize for getting in the way of the 12th note jam, but I'd like to post a followup to a post I made earlier this year, where I said that the idea of progressive industrial was a type of music I'd been looking for for years, and did anyone know of any bands that fit that description?
No one had, unfortunately, so I decided I had to do it myself (I'm still looking for industrial prog bands, so if you know of one, email me).
Anyway, I have this little project called Grendel, which loosely falls into the category of industrial (e.g. dance metal). It's also somewhat prog, though more in the Frippian sense than the Dream Theater sense, If you want to check it out, there's music to listen to.
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664/grendel.html
I now return you to the Love Stinks/Women Are Satan discussion.
-- *Consider yourself warned.* -- Grendel (Industrial/Electronic Prog): http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664/grendel.html Against a Sickness: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664
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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:02:49 EDT From: Nshsunsfan@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: MP Fessed Up On This One. Message-ID: <5b66cab9.3632b0f9@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-10-21 20:33:27 EDT, you write:
<< He left the list because a few children on here were real harsh to him and some absolute dickmunch thought it was cute to forge his email address and sned bullshit to the jam under his name. Did anyone ever find out who did that? >>
The "dickmunch" you speak of was MP. He fessed up to it just as the DT/ELP/DP tour ended. . .
That's how I read it.
Nikki ________________________________ ~~Through Nature's Inflexible Grace~~ ~~I'm Learning to Live -- J. Myung~~
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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:17:52 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: MP Fessed Up On This One. Message-ID: <04bd01bdffd6$d0928770$3a1110ac@viper.clemson.edu>
i dunno about that tho - the impostor used netscape to send mail and mike uses AOL. i'm not one to call mike a liar, but maybe he was kidding when he "confessed"? i dunno. it would make sense that it'd be him, but would he really go through the trouble to use a different mail program just in case some people on the jam were somehow able to find out what prog you used? doesn't seem like something you'd think of just for a joke. just lettin ya know. moo.
--
Dan McCormack (dmc@dreamt.org) http://www.clemson.edu/~demccor/
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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:43:31 EDT From: DRUMSBH@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: asdf Message-ID: <d6aa1b3f.3632ba83@aol.com>
Brent Harkey
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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:11:49 EST From: Nshsunsfan@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Drummers and Enthusiasts Message-ID: <6d132a22.3632c125@aol.com>
I took the bait, and purchased Modern Drummer's Hot Trax CD. AWESOME !!!!!!!
Trak List:
1. Terry Bozzio - "Duende" 2. Horacio "El Negro" Hernandez - "Ceviche" 3. Mike Portnoy - "Chris & Kevin's Excellent Adventure" [DTC] 4. Vinnie Colaiuta - "Slink" 5. Dave Lombardo - "Myth Or Man" 6. Paul Wertico - "Give the Drummer's Sum 8x12" 7. Richie Hayward - "Eden's Wall" 8. Terri Lyne Carrington - "Angel Eyes" 9. Virgil Donati - "Drumspeak" 10. Adam Nussbaum - "Finally" 11. Gary Husband - "Adreneline"
The drumming is incredible and incredibly diverse. P E R F E C T.
Highlights:
Bozzio (no straining to hear him here) Lombardo (so far just man) Wertico Carrington (wow, oh my) Donati ("I know you're gonna dig this")
Portnoy ???? Never heard of him. [This is a DIFFERENT version than LTE]
_____Nikki_______________________ ~~Through Nature's Inflexible Grace~~ ~~I'm Learning to Live -- J. Myung~~
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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:23:22 EST From: Nshsunsfan@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Finding Dream Theater --- lol Message-ID: <e4655bb6.3632c3da@aol.com>
Frequenting the live rock clubs, I kept running into a band that would change members at the drop of a hat. As their members changed so did their name.
So, by the third time their name ended in [insert name] Theater I asked the drummer what in the hell was going on with this "Theater thing."
Hearing a description of their music I picked up I&W about three months after it's release.
I've been completely hooked ever since.
____Nikki_________________________ ~~Through Nature's Inflexible Grace~~ ~~I'm Learning to Live --J. Myung~~
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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:20:30 -0500 From: James Lutz <ytsejim@optonline.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4366 Message-ID: <3632D13E.D13F534C@optonline.net>
>> Hey, doesn't anyone ever chat in the &ytsejam ICQ room?? > no. never. irc.dreamt.org #ytsejam and #ytseradio is where it's at.
Well, that isn't entirely true. The Ytsejam ICQ chat room does have some chats of its own...Though i agree, It doesn't compare with IRC. I provide an alternative for people who don't know how to use or don't want to use IRC. I also provide an mp3 server with rare B-sides and live tracks for people to sample at their own will. For info, please visit http://members.aol.com/ytsejamicq Any suggestions on improving the chat room are welcome! Take care
~YtseJim &Ytsejam Moderator
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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:36:27 PST From: "Max Verran" <maxverran@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: THE TOP 20 Message-ID: <19981025093627.17914.qmail@hotmail.com>
I asked a question about the top 20 here yesterday, and then today I asked ytse_classics@yahoo.com. Well now the thing thinks I have sent in my top 20. So now how do I send them? I tried sending another message and got nothing back...
-maX
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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 03:03:16 -0700 From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: asdf Message-ID: <3632F764.AD648DEA@imap1.asu.edu>
DRUMSBH@aol.com wrote: > Brent Harkey
Heheheheheh....fucking drummers on AOL.... ;^) JAM ON!
~Return of the Eckie
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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 13:12:06 +0100 From: Wino Emmanuel <ewino@mail.dotcom.fr> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: OIALT is out !!!! Message-ID: <36331596.146D5BCB@mail.dotcom.fr>
Hi !
Just wanted to tell you that OIALT kicks ass !!!!!!!! The sound is amazing, the performance is incredible (i already thought this when i was attending the show :-) ) GO AND BUY IT !!!!!!
Manu.
-- Emmanuel WINO mailto:ewino@mail.dotcom.fr Michel GUYADER Online : http://www.mygale.org/07/cuic/ ICQ : 2501180 " Doe !!!! " H. Simpson " What ? " Beethoven
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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 13:30:47 +0100 From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: OIAL - no secrets revealed Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19981025123047.006cd338@unet.univie.ac.at>
hey there! i can understand that those of you jammers who dont have OIAL yet dont want to know everything about it for some of the surprises might get lost (btw, you know the setlist, youve seen them live, so which surprises??) just one thing. am i the only one who notices the pan setting seems 180 degree wrong? i mean it is some sort of strange getting petruccis guitars on the left while he is always on the right side of the stage, also the drums seem to come out inverted (high toms left, low right). maybe it is just a mistake that happened somewhere at the mastering of the disc. i noticed this at some albums already for example i have allman bros on cd and vinyl and its inverted stereo channels there as well. but then again maybe its not just a mistake, but kevins mix. i would have prefered it the way you got it on stage. i know this is a stupid thread, but its just a different feel. (btw, my demo is also recorded channel inverted, so if you want my original mix change the stereo channels :) ) thats all for now, anyone having the same opinion? ytsegreetings --------- download my ingenious demo at http://www.users.cloud9.net/~textral/dryheat.html
Dryheat (...in Houston they say that?)
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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 05:39:56 PST From: "Dream Theater" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: TAMP demo version (oh no!)I&W MAG? Message-ID: <19981025133956.8957.qmail@hotmail.com>
Images and Words Magazine? I've never heard of a such thing. Where can you find/subscribe to it? Anyone ...
>Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 08:59:43 -0700 (PDT) >Reply-To: ytsejam@ax.com >From: TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org> >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> >Subject: TAMP demo version (oh no!) > > >i dunno how many of you have looked through the latest Images & Words mag, >but you might notice a little snippet of the interview with JP: > >[talking about TAMP] > >I&W: Also, the general style and feel of the finished song changed quite >drastically from the demo version, and live sound. Personally, I prefer the >original. > >JP: You do? It's just a different interpretation. I wasn't exactly sure how >I heard it, but I knew that I wanted it to be different. I thought it was >kinda typical just the way we had it, like too over dramatic. So I was >trying to get away from that. > > >So stop bashing Shirley :) Moo. > > >*** END OF TRANSMISSION *** >
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