YTSEJAM Digest 4372
Today's Topics:
1) DT Live shows
by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
2) OiAL Review
by IceQD@aol.com
3) DT T shirt inquiry
by MentolPyro@aol.com
4) Re: MP Fessed Up On This One
by DragynLMC3@aol.com
5) Re: Going on w/the mp3 discussion...
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@axnet.net>
6) Re: Getting OiaLT early
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
7) Re: OIAL
by Adam Pye <alpine@bellsouth.net>
8) Re: re: MP Fessed Up To This One
by "Miguel Farah F." <miguel@antonia.webhost.cl>
9) Aussie/Kiwi jammers...
by Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
10) Nuno news, Rocktron; Cheap Trick
by "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
11) FS:Angra cds
by Kevin <kvill@flash.net>
12) Re: FS:Angra cds
by Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
13) OIAL 5YIAL Spoilers
by ClPuritan@aol.com
14) Amputating Mike Portnoy's Third Arm and feeding it to Crackbacca.
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
15) DT to tour in 98?
by ClPuritan@aol.com
16) no DT / Kansas City DJ
by Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
17) Re: Getting OiaLT early
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
18) RE: YTSEJAM digest 4367
by "BassicRob" <bassicrob@geocities.com>
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:02:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: DT Live shows
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.981026165915.14286F-100000@thunder>
Interesting - I've been to four DT shows, and each one had a fairly
different set list. I was quite pleased by the set lists actually. I
even saw two back to back with very different set lists.
Mayhaps I am just lucky.
But I wont mention that I saw Pink Floyd 4 times (the kings of
non-changing set lists.. well.. a little better than RUSH).. and the one
show I decided not to go to (since they werent changing their set lists)
was one that they completely revamped their set to include all of Dark
Side of the Moon.
I am still bitter about that!
BTW: Mike Portnoy - you have a memory so good it really scares me!!!!
-ponte
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:18:55 EST
From: IceQD@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: OiAL Review
Message-ID: <39c1c28.3634f54f@aol.com>
In a message dated 10/26/98 10:02:49PM, you write:
>On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Chris Calabrese wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't mean to brag but I just got a promo copy of ONCE IN A LIVETIME
>> and it fucking rules!!!!!
>>
>>
I heard there was a review of OiAL on the jam a few weeks back.
Could anyone please let me know who wrote it and perhaps send me a copy of
that particular digest. If that is not possible, is there a url where
previous digests are kept?
Thanks in advance.
Ice Queen
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:22:37 EST
From: MentolPyro@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: DT T shirt inquiry
Message-ID: <80049ea7.3634f62d@aol.com>
i was browsing a web site, and found this DT t shirt:
DREAM THEATER ALBUM INFINITY(T)WHITE L,XL =A312.99
i know this woulnd't make sense cuz of the description of white, but is t=
his
the same shirt offered at cdnow???
the web site is: http://www.pushposters.com/new/fr_shrt.htm =20
then in the left frame click D
any help is greatly appreciated, since the consensus seems to skip over m=
y
posts
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:28:50 EST
From: DragynLMC3@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: MP Fessed Up On This One
Message-ID: <3b99fead.3634f7a2@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-10-26 16:49:51 EST, you write:
> since it was a dis on
> Derek from Mike
actually, Mike already posted that it WAS NOT him. just in case any of you
missed it, he informed us that the imposter stopped impersonating derek and
impersonated him (mike) saying that he (mike) had been impersonating derek...
in other words,umm... nevermind! :} no this isnt an imsposter
~Lisa
DragynLMC3@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/dragynlmc3/DragynsLair.html
"aawwww fuck it!" ~Mike Portnoy
The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time. -Bertrand Russell
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:34:11 -0500
From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@axnet.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Going on w/the mp3 discussion...
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981026173411.007ce940@mail>
Yeah, here's a suggestion. Sned them to me. I would love some DT MP3s.At
12:23 PM 10/26/98 -0800, you wrote:
Hey, jammerz!
Recently I was cleaning up my hard drive and realized that DT mp3's took up
about 800megs of the space, not too much though, but still this space might
be very useful, so I decided to make an audio CD with some of the songs I
have there - why audio? - A lot of my friends have been very willing to
hear this stuff, but were unable, because not all of them have PC's and not
all of those who have have he web-access... - so I decided to make this CD.
Needless to say that only a small part of the songs got to the CD, but
volumes 2 and 3 are to follow. For those who are interested, here's the
track-listing of the CD:
1. Your Majesty
2. A Vision
3. March of the Tyrant
4. Two Far
5. Cry for Freedom
6. Freeport Jam
7. Solar Groove (dan, this song is AWESOME!!!)
8. LSOAD (acoustic)
9. Cover my eyes
10. Hollow Years
11. Speak to me
12. TWIUTB
13. JLMB
of course you gather that all these songs are either life or some kind of a
demo.
I am now thinking of the conents for the next CD - have any suggestions?
cya laterz,
~Pete 'the Russian Jammer' Tatischev
-- Damon Fibraio, email dfibraio@home.com Associate for Technical Support, De Witt and Associates "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream theater------------------------------
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:37:06 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Getting OiaLT early Message-ID: <3.0.32.19981026153705.007106dc@postoffice.syspac.com>
>Thing I don't understand is, according to the website and both record stores I >go to (Tower Records and Newbury Comics), it's not out until tuesday, Oct. >27th (or Monday at midnight, at Tower). How are you people getting it? >Connections? Bootlegs? Just curious. Thanks.
Well, I got mine today because I pre-ordered from CDNow and FedEx just decided to be extra efficient and deliver my package today :)
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | http://members.xoom.com/obscuremetal/ | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:57:51 -0500 From: Adam Pye <alpine@bellsouth.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: OIAL Message-ID: <4.1.19981026174140.009f9260@mail.lig.bellsouth.net>
>DT do us the favour and release a wonderful live double album, and some >people (no names, no flames :) ) prefer to buy mydyingbride stuff instead. >hmm. this really makes me sad. and i also dont understand those people. not >buying cds means no support. then you ask why we dont have dt on the >radio/tv (hell beware!). if even fans are not willing to buy albums?
Nuts...This is the kind of post I really hoped wouldn't respond to mine. Both Partha and I said VERY clearly (stressed, even) that we were going to buy OIAL. Check the first two lines of my post. My preorder has been in at CDNOW since the day they allowed them, even though I've got a free copy already. Several people on this list have promo copies and I can guarentee you that ALL of them will be buying the CD as well. I appreciate the "no names, no flames" (that's all too rare on this list), but I wish people would at least read the posts they're replying to before responding.
To clear up any more misconceptions... DT puts on a great, excellent, superb live show - that's not my problem. (Would I own 60 DT shows if I thought otherwise?) My problem is that they put on virtually the same great show every night, which really diminishes the power of it for those who see it multiple times. That's the bottom line - the Cliff's Notes version of my post... :) Take care all...
__________________________________________________ Adam Pye (Alpine) alpine(-at-)bellsouth.net ICQ: 9382967 http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/~alpine ^^ Above URL for Tapelist w/ Setlists __________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:19:31 -0300 (GMT+3) From: "Miguel Farah F." <miguel@antonia.webhost.cl> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: re: MP Fessed Up To This One Message-ID: <199810262319.UAA27665@antonia.webhost.cl>
> >Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 03:36:38 EST >From: Portnoy420@aol.com >To: ytsejam@axnet.net >Cc: skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org >Subject: re: MP Fessed Up To This One >Message-ID: <f0b5e5a1.36343496@aol.com> > > >Hey gang, >I don't know if this will make it to the jam, but in case it does...
It did. :-)
>[...] >When I saw this, I absolutely FREAKED and wrote a REALLY nasty post to the jam >threatening this "dickmunch" (and I used much harsher words!!) that if he ever >posted again that I would be OUTTA HERE for good.... >However, for reasons still unknown to me..my post never made it to the list. >And luckily, this asshole never posted again with my email address. > >I decided to let it slide as long as this guy did not post as a "Portnoy420" >imposter again.....luckily, despite my unseen letter - he never did again....
Mike, you could try to PGP-sign your messages (if the AOL softwre will allow it).
Two years ago I was victim of continuous suplantation, and trust me on this: it was an awful thing to go through.
>So...here we are, with me contributing to the jam again!! : )
GREAT.
Say, BTW, when are you coming down to Chile?
-- MIGUEL FARAH // miguel@webhost.cl #include <disclaimer.h> // http://www.webhost.cl/~miguel <*> "Trust me - I know what I'm doing." - Sledge Hammer
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:40:23 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net> To: YtseJelly <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Aussie/Kiwi jammers... Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.4.01.9810261835570.10722-100000@voyager.cris.com>
Anyone know where to find audio clips of the Australian band Vanishing Point? I'm very interested in hearing them. Thanks.
Rick Audet San Francisco
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:57:28 -0500 From: "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Nuno news, Rocktron; Cheap Trick Message-ID: <19981027010010.MHQD19959@239157822worldnet.att.net>
Hello, Thanks for the news on Nuno, whoever posted it. As for the fella who thought he was in QR, that was a rumor, and there's nothing to show he ever auditioned even. QR's new guitarist is named Kelly Gray (I think). And the guy asking about the Rocktron processor that will channel switch your amp: its the Replifex. Good product from what I've determined from in store tryouts. And to any and all who might care, Cheap Trick is going to be on Conan O'Brien this Friday night. I'll have to tape it since I'll actually be WATCHING Cheap Trick at Irving Plaza on Friday. And here's hoping I can score Type O tickets in Philly on Saturday... Fat chance... :(
Stodge
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:07:42 -0600 From: Kevin <kvill@flash.net> To: YtseJam Mailing list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: FS:Angra cds Message-ID: <36351CDE.BBA96142@flash.net>
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Yes, it looks like I'm turning the Ytsejam into the garageytselljam. My apologies. I've got the following Angra discs for sale...All are imports: Angra-Angels Cry $13 Angra-Holy Live $10 Angra-Holy Land (2 cd set w/ Bonus track on Holy Land (Queen of the Night) and 2nd disc with Live Acoustic At FNAC with the following Tracks (1)Angels Cry (2)Chega de Saudade (3)Never Understand) (I believe this 2cd set is no longer in print, someone let me know if I'm wrong) $27
All prices are postage paid in the US. If interested, e-mail me at kvill@flash.net Thanks, Kevin. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Used CDs are always for sale at: http://www.flash.net/~kvill/cds4sale.html Updated regularly! -----------------------------------------------------------
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML> Yes, it looks like I'm turning the Ytsejam into the <B><U>garage</U></B>yt<B><U>sell</U></B>jam. My apologies. <BR>I've got the following Angra discs for sale...All are imports: <BR>Angra-Angels Cry $13 <BR>Angra-Holy Live $10 <BR>Angra-Holy Land (2 cd set w/ Bonus track on Holy Land (Queen of the Night) and 2nd disc with Live Acoustic At FNAC with the following Tracks (1)Angels Cry (2)Chega de Saudade (3)Never Understand) (I believe this 2cd set is no longer in print, someone let me know if I'm wrong) $27 <P>All prices are postage paid in the US. If interested, e-mail me at kvill@flash.net <BR>Thanks, Kevin. <BR>-- <BR>----------------------------------------------------------- <BR>Used CDs are always for sale at: <BR><A HREF="http://www.flash.net/~kvill/cds4sale.html">http://www.flash.net/~kvill/cds4sale.html> <BR>Updated regularly! <BR>----------------------------------------------------------- <BR> </HTML>
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:28:57 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: FS:Angra cds Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.981026192712.7079A-100000@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu>
On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Kevin wrote: > Angra-Holy Land (2 cd set w/ Bonus track on Holy Land (Queen of the > Night) and 2nd disc with Live Acoustic At FNAC with the following Tracks > (1)Angels Cry (2)Chega de Saudade (3)Never Understand) (I believe this > 2cd set is no longer in print, someone let me know if I'm wrong) $27
The second disc may no longer be in print, but I just received their EP Freedom Call which contains the three live acoustic tracks as bonuses on my version.
Robert Taylor rctaylor@uiuc.edu http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~rctaylor
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:55:46 EST From: ClPuritan@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: OIAL 5YIAL Spoilers Message-ID: <673bef8c.36352822@aol.com>
Hey All, I got both today at a local music store that puts out its merchandise as soon as it gets it. I am listening to the disc right now and it kicks ass. Here are some initial impressions. I thought the disc really didn't take off until the jam in JLMB which was killer. The little Star Wars opening to Voices is hysterical, almost worth the price of the whole disc for that. The opening of LitS is awesome. Derek has quite a few different sounds. Derek's organ? is also more prevalent under the middle verse or whatever. Right now I am listening to Scarred, so I don't have an opinion on the whole thing yet. The video is awesome. I just watched the whole thing. It really highlights Derek's sense of humor. I was going to give the track listing, but now when I think about it half the fun was wondering what was going to come next. All I can say is that I can't wait to buy Stained Glass and that Speak to Me should have definitely been on Falling Into Infinity. It's an awesome song, and would have been a great replacement for Anna Lee. I am sure that the track list will be out there soon enough if not already and I don't want to ruin anyone's fun.
So DT, you guys are geniuses, and I don't say that to kiss ass, but to thank Mike or whomever else is on here. The video and disc have already brought joy to my life. Thanks. I can't wait for the XMas CD either.
Mark
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:03:18 -0700 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Amputating Mike Portnoy's Third Arm and feeding it to Crackbacca. Message-ID: <007a01be00e9$654a4a20$210d84d0@korgx3>
>I realize DT isn't a jam band, but they do have very dedicated fans and >most will goto more than one show if there's more than one in their area
Yah, I can see your points, but I think your points are only directed to a small portion of the jam. IMO, I'm wonderfully glad DT isn't a jam band. I have nothing against them, but listening to a bunch of virtuosos making things up on the spot isn't my thing. (I'm assuming that's what you mean by a jam band) And also, I'm glad to get a live album from DT, since I was one of the (probably many, many) DT fans that didn't get to see them live on the last tour (and have yet to see them live, to boot). So this live album (and vid) are something of a Godsend to me.
Anyway, very few of the bands I've ever seen live vary their setlists from what I read here or see on their websites. Hell, on the Queensryche Saints and Sinners" bootleg from San Jose, Geoff even says the <i>exact same</i> speel about dreams right before breaking into Silent Lucidity. I really don't think a band tours to cater to the small group of fans that follow them everywhere like sheep. The average DT fan will probably see them for one show per tour. We pooparazzijammers are probably the only ones that follow them around like that. We're psycho. :) So most people probably don't notice the setlists.
>When I saw this, I absolutely FREAKED and wrote a REALLY nasty post to the >jam threatening this "dickmunch" (and I used much harsher words!!) that if
(KorgX3 cheers as Mike Portnoy inadvertantly quotes him on the 'jam) :) I spoke of sheep earlier didn't I? Well, allow me to say "BLEAT!" BTW, Mike, did Derek ever give John M. back his woobie? I'm just curious.
Anyway, to the point of my post...
Thanks to the magic of Federal Express 2-day shipping, $50 discounts from CDNow, and inverted quantum physics theorems derived to a focal point breaching the singularity of time, etc... I got my official release of OiaL a day early. Can I say? ROK NADZ! or something to that extent. Any of you who skip over having this CD set in your collection are bastards (or will be one day, if applicable). :) This is great, superior production. Everyone who jizzed over the Jordan Rudess Take The Time version should feel guilty. I'm walking through the Halls of Vapor Action Relief listening to Derek's version right now.
Anyway, I've yapped too much. Take care folks! -- KorgX3 moo?
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:07:35 EST From: ClPuritan@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: DT to tour in 98? Message-ID: <86057014.36352ae7@aol.com>
I don't know if this was addressed already, so I apologize if it was. I have been reading rumors on alt.dreamtheater.music. not a very reliable source of information. That DT plan to tour the American northeast around the holidays like they have done for the last 3 years. Please someone say that there is some truth to this. Mark
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:00:13 -0800 From: Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: no DT / Kansas City DJ Message-ID: <199810270259.VAB13446@dewdrop2.mindspring.com>
Hey all,
Just something I came across...
I used to live in Kansas City and this DJ for a local rock station does all kinds of crazy things to raise money blankets/jackets for the homeless.
Check this web link out. THIS YEAR he is going to BURY HIMSELF alive under thousands of pounds of concrete. CHECK IT OUT:
http://989therock.com/entombedinconcrete/entombedinconcrete.htm
See ya
todd s
www.dreamt.org
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 23:34:38 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Getting OiaLT early Message-ID: <36354D5E.52E15C99@caribe.net>
Vincent G. LuPone wrote:
> Well, I got mine today because I pre-ordered from CDNow and FedEx just > decided to be extra efficient and deliver my package today :) > > Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
I preordered both OAiL and 5YiAL just as they made them available, and still i get email saying they wont be shipped till tomorrow, when other ppl are already receiving their copies from the SAME STORE...
--
"[...] people will cringe..." - John Petrucci
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 23:44:38 -0500 From: "BassicRob" <bassicrob@geocities.com> To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 4367 Message-ID: <000901be0164$81545e60$e274cf98@rob>
Cyberduke writes: > I would just like to tell to the folks webmastering the > sites with DT > MP3s that most of the links doesn't work! This would refer > primarily to: > > http://www.users.skynet.be/JohnPetrucci/ , and > http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/1566/sounds.htm >
I am well aware of this and, no attack on you (and everyone else that doesn't read) but I made several attempts of notify surfers of this problem. First i replied to every email, then I made the little blurb in BOLDFACE above the mp3s as well as putting 'N/A' next to the ones I know are broken, now i am saying this: read the beginning of the page. it say: most of these links are broken [yes some should work] and i am aware because i am moving all the mp3s and my page onto a new server. When this gets done i don't know but i will make an announcement here and on my lestserv. The reason the page is still up is because #1, some work, and #2, if you really want it i will as kind as to email u it. Sorry to bring this up here and be so harsh but i just wanted to clarify it. This is not meant as a flame. =A0=A0=A0-Rob, bassicrob@geocities.com ICQ# 15762800 bassicrob@new-york.crosswinds.net DT MP3 Archive, Artwork, LTE Desktop theme, bass solos, and me http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/1566
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