YTSEJAM Digest 4377

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 4377

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: Star Wars in Voices
     by MaxArbot@aol.com
      2) And he replies opethly
     by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
      3) OIAL ROX!!!
     by Darth1@aol.com
      4) Re: DTIFC?!?!?
     by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
      5) Re: Star Wars in Voices
     by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
      6) Superior - NDTC
     by "Gilberto Bressan Junior" <gbressanjr@sti.com.br>
      7) Re: Star Wars in Voices
     by "Christopher J. Cerminara" <cxc393@psu.edu>
      8) Re: OIAL Preorder & Phish
     by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
      9) open reply from Manuel
     by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
     10) Cynic
     by John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
     11) Re: College towns, yet again...
     by "CP Parnham" <C.P.Parnham-97@student.lboro.ac.uk>
     12) Mike Portnoy's "Supergroup"
     by "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfqc@nl1.telmex.net.mx>
     13) ***FREE DT STICKER and CONTEST****
     by Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
     14) Video
     by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
     15) OiaL in the UK
     by "Charlie Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com>
     16) Re: Cynic
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
     17) Rush in OiaL
     by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
     18) Re: KX/GC in St. Louis
     by drnewb@spiff.net
     19) OiaL as a DT converter
     by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
     20) OiaL cover
     by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
     21) Small rural buttville towns suck.
     by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
     22) 5YIALT promo CDs available
     by Jessi <Diepudel@bigfoot.com>

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:20:05 EST
    From: MaxArbot@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Re: Star Wars in Voices
    Message-ID: <674180e8.36375245@aol.com>

    First of all, are you talking about a bootleg or the album version of
    "Voices?" If you're talking about the album version, then you must not
    realize (yes, I'm American) that Derek wasn't with DT when they recorded
    "Voices." If you're talking about a bootleg, please send me the URL...I'd
    love to hear it :o)

    [eriC]
    <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/MaxArbot/index.html">THE DRE/\M THE/\TER</A>

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:35:40 +0000
    From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
    To: yts <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: And he replies opethly
    Message-ID: <363763FC.7288@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>

    Rogerio Brito reacted:
    > Neil Gallop wrote:

    > > Dream Theater won't last for ever - who will you support then?

    > Opeth, of course. :-)

    Tool :)

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:08:55 EST
    From: Darth1@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: OIAL ROX!!!
    Message-ID: <2994f541.36376bc7@aol.com>

    Got OIAL yesterday via FedEx along with the new Fates and Myst Soundtrack
    (Great ambient music BTW). I must say, its one of the best live albums I've
    ever heard! I wish I could have seen them live. (Gotta pick up that video soon
    |-).
    Favorite parts:
    - Derek's key solo leading up to Lines in the Sand and Lines in the Sand. They
    did a great job on this song!
    - Petrucci's guitar solo! I knew he was good, but I never new he could shred
    anywhere close to Yngwie or Vai!
    - Just Let Me Breathe - nothing in particular, this song just rocks live!

    Did anyone hear the part where they clipped the mics or something. I cant
    remember the exact place (its on the first disk). It was right after they came
    in from a quieter part to something like Puppies on Acid. (That may not be the
    right part but you know what I mean.) That was the only "strangeness" I heard
    on the albums... If anyone knows what's up with this lemme know...

    Josh S.

    NP: Myst Soundtrack - Telescope Theme

    "I belong anywhere but in between...
    ..I am the Rain King" - Adam Duritz

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:27:30 +0100
    From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
    To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Cc: "'OmegaMusic@aol.com'" <OmegaMusic@aol.com>
    Subject: Re: DTIFC?!?!?
    Message-ID: <01BE02AE.F08585C0@58.153.dialin.mxs.nl>

      Rob asked :

    > I must have been asleep. I need to renew my subscription...I think.
    > What's the deal???? We have to send cash to England?

      Yup... You can find all the information you need in UACM's
      "Official Fanclubs" section. Remember that there are *six*
      official fanclubs and members of *all* these fanclubs will
      receive the 1998 Xmas CD... Not just members of the DTIFC!
      If you would like to check out the websites of the "other"
      fanclubs, click on the little "flags" on UACM's main page.
      Sign up before it's too late... You won't be disappointed!

      Mark Bredius
      _______________________________________________________
      Under A Cyber Moon - The Official Dream Theater Website
      http://www.dreamtheater.net/ E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org
      *** Join the FREE weekly Dream Theater newsletter ! ***
      http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/uc/ Website Tips & Tools

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:10:26 -0500
    From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
    To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: Star Wars in Voices
    Message-ID: <001001be02a6$a1be9100$3a1110ac@demccor.clemson.edu>

    >First of all, are you talking about a bootleg or the album version of
    >"Voices?" If you're talking about the album version, then you must not

    i believe he was talking about the OiaL version. moo.

    *** END OF TRANSMISSION ***

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    Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:50:09 -0200
    From: "Gilberto Bressan Junior" <gbressanjr@sti.com.br>
    To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Superior - NDTC
    Message-ID: <009401bdff8f$e7b2c1a0$7e16d3c8@escritorio>

    Hi folks...

    I don't know if this was already brought to the Jam, but SUPERIOR's Younique
    was released here in South America just a few days ago, but the coolest part
    is, that it has the same 2 extra tracks as the Jap version, but it costs a
    few bucks less (here is about Us$ 17) :-)

    Sometimes we Brazilians feel a bit of envy of americans (cds releases,
    shows, etc), but sometimes we can be proud of our land too !! (BTW Paul
    Gilbert just did an incredible Clinic here in Sao Paulo a couple of weeks
    ago, and he was one of the coolest artists I ever met !)

    Gilberto

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:52:20 -0500
    From: "Christopher J. Cerminara" <cxc393@psu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Re: Star Wars in Voices
    Message-ID: <4.1.19981028144910.00aaf550@email.psu.edu>

    At 09:54 AM 10/28/98, you wrote:
    >
    >First of all, are you talking about a bootleg or the album version of
    >"Voices?"

    Sorry. I was talking about the OIAL version of Voices. It starts
    somewhere around the 15 second mark. It only lasts about 10 seconds
    though. I think it's played a bit slower than in the movie. BTW, I think
    it's JP and not DS.

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:10:15 -0600 (CST)
    From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Re: OIAL Preorder & Phish
    Message-ID: <19981028145855441@ix.netcom.com>

    <<Dammit, I'm pissed. The mail came today and my copy of OIAL I preordered
    from CDNow wasn't in it. Hmm...
    Sorry. Just had to vent a little.>>

    I feel your pain, dude ;-)

    I preordered OIAL and 5YiaL as well as LiT and LATM (I had some cash to blow,
    plus a $10 discount.) alrighty, yesterday I got the two vids (5YiaL ROOOOCKS!
    Its an incredible vid, and the studio antics from the band are hilarious!) In an
    e-mail from CDNow, it said that OiaL was shipped 1st class mail and should arrive
    4-6 days, it was shipped on Oct. 26th. Also, LATM was shipped on the 23rd and
    that has one day left before I wreck havok upon CDNow. And if I dont get OiaL
    from them by Saturday I will be truly pissed. So if for any reason you try to log
    on to CDNow on Sunday, and it says the server is down, its cause I blew up the
    building ;-D

    ANd to whoever said Phish is prog....hate to disagree with you, but they are
    absolutely NOT PROG. There is nothing progressive about them, unless you
    consider The Greatful Dead progressive. To me, they are boring. Their jams
    are pathetic, simply because they go on for a half hour on the same chord/chord
    progression while their audience gets stoned.

    Matt

    =====================================================
    "A daily dose of eMpTyV "Following our instinct
    will flush your mind not a trend. Go against
    right down the drain." the grain until the end."
                                                                                           
             -Dream Theater -Metallica
    =====================================================

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:13:08 +0100
    From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: open reply from Manuel
    Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19981028201308.006f8934@unet.univie.ac.at>

    official press release (hehe)
    <<Fan enough for you
    hm, k, accepted. (oc, fans (if not them who else) have the right to
    criticize their favourites, this is good for the fanbase/band interaction
    and i think since there are/is a member(s) of DT here on this list this
    should work)
    <<Or do you want me
    <<to buy the forthcoming 78 minute CD of Mike Portnoy farting 12th
    <<notes on the shitter after having eaten a Bombay Vindaloo?
    tell me the release date, i ll start eating a shitload of beans to be able
    to fart to the album (btw, is he going on tour with it as well?)
    hey, reading the posts i felt like there was an upcoming tendency against
    OIAL which would have been unfair. didnt want to offend anyone. btw, we
    could talk about it having some beers as well (better than flaming around,
    hey yea Enchant do open for the Beard, go see it, im terribly frustrated
    that they cancelld the austrian gig so i wont have the chance to see them.
    lucky you!!)
    ytsegreetings

    NP:Dream Theater OnceinaLIVEtime
    ---------
    download my ingenious demo at http://www.users.cloud9.net/~textral/dryheat.html

    Dryheat (...in Houston they say that?)

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:29:48 -0800 (PST)
    From: John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam dream theater <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Cynic
    Message-ID: <19981028202948.7999.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com>

    Do any of you know where I can order the Cynic CD Focus???? I have
    searched everywhere but I can't find one store that has it listed. Is
    it out of print or just real hard to find???

    Thanks a bunch

    ==
    John

    _________________________________________________________
    DO YOU YAHOO!?
    Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:36:13 +0000
    From: "CP Parnham" <C.P.Parnham-97@student.lboro.ac.uk>
    To: Ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Re: College towns, yet again...
    Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981028213613.00927a20@student-mailin.lboro.ac.uk>

    >Subject: Re: college towns....
    >
    >> this fucking blows....I live in a town where there are 30,000 college
    >> students and there are 2 or 3 record stores within miles of here and
    >> none of them have videos...and I just called one of them and I asked if
    >> they have the new Dream Theater video and their response was, "We don't
    >> have it, cuz who would want to buy that???" WELL FUCK YOU! Excuse me
    >> for not running to all the stores today for the new Phish CD like every
    >> other fucking hippie in this town.
    >
    >Amazing isn't it? I had to go to three cd stores before I found it,
    >and only one guy in the first two had even heard of dream theater.
    >And I live in a college town also....maybe that is the problem.
    >
    >Josh
    >jpwalkowicz@physfac.purdue.edu

    I couldn't agree more! I also live in a college town, we even have our own
    Rock Society at Uni, AND we have FOUR stores here (All of which are totally
    SHIT!), BUT they do have Images And Words on one of those listening posts,
    but strangely it's by a band called Dream Theatre...... Never heard of
    them, maybe they're good?

    Chris Parnham....
    P.S. OiaL would be impossible to find here, so I've taken the liberty of
    ordering it from a store back home instead...
    ______________________________________________________________________

     ICQ: 5714076 IRC: Insania

    Please check out my local band STORMWATCH. You can obtain sound samples in
    Wav form exclusively through me. If you're interested please e-mail me
    directly.

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:38:17 -0600
    From: "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfqc@nl1.telmex.net.mx>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Mike Portnoy's "Supergroup"
    Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981028163817.0079b360@nl1.telmex.net.mx>

    Hi all!

    Does someone know why this project was postponed?

    Mike Portnoy (drums)
    Jim Matheos of Fates Warning (guitar)
    Neal Morse of Spock's Beard (vocals, keyboards)
    Pete Trewavas of Marillion (bass)

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:00:17 -0800
    From: Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: ***FREE DT STICKER and CONTEST****
    Message-ID: <199810282259.RAA20229@camel14.mindspring.com>

            

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            FOR SOME COOL PRIZES?

            CONTEST ends DECEMBER 17th, 1998.

            CHECK OUT:

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:25:06 -0500 (EST)
    From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Video
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.981028182302.27394A-100000@thunder>

    hey.. what town do you live in that doesnt have the video? Even at PSU
    there are loads of places which carry dream theater stuff, including the
    videos! I never had a problem getting live in tokyo or LTE there!

    Go to Mikes Movies and Music for thos who live at PSU. They have
    everything.

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:56:12 -0000
    From: "Charlie Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com>
    To: "Ytsejam list" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: OiaL in the UK
    Message-ID: <052295452231ca8UPIMSSMTPUSR06@email.msn.com>

    So OiaL has a worldwide release date of 27th October except the UK - where
    we have to wait till the following monday - 2nd Nov. Even the major chains
    (HMV, Virgin) seem to have little knowledge and even some of the largest
    Virgin Megastores son't even have plans to stock the disk. I wish I
    understood the buying plans of the large stores - its just so fucked up!

    If I have to order a major release like this, then I might as well support
    my small-time local record store than spend money with Virgin.

    Charlie

    Work: http://www.servemode.co.uk/
    URL: http://www.servemode.co.uk/Charlie

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:55:05 -0200 (EDT)
    From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: Cynic
    Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9810282149320.16338-100000@jaca>

    On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, John Parks wrote:

    > Do any of you know where I can order the Cynic CD Focus???? I have
    > searched everywhere but I can't find one store that has it listed. Is
    > it out of print or just real hard to find???

            Well, I ordered it from CD Connection. It's on Road Runner, a
    fairly big label, which also carries/carried Sepultura.

            BTW, be warned that you may hate the vocals -- the electonic parts
    sometimes get on my nerves. But I'm sure that Paul Dyer will reply to this
    message, telling that Cynic is the best band ever, etc, etc, etc (ok,
    after Opeth and Dream Theater, they may be). :-)

            []s, Roger...

    P.S.: Oh, if you don't know, Cynic is a death metal band. If you have
    restrictions about this genre of metal, you may consider spending your
    hard-earned bucks on Renaissance's "Ashes Are Burning". What a damn cool
    album is this one.

    --
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
      Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito
      Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!"
       Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:19:53 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Rush in OiaL Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.981028191348.27459A-100000@thunder>

    Actually I swear I hear Derek playing Xanadu at one point.. and the cheering crown might mean that they heard it as well!

    Also, If you want to convert someone over to DT, play the bit from Peruvian skies through PMU. Ive gotten many favourable responces from that group of songs! Personally when I bought the album I was listening to it on the way home. And it felt like I was at a concert. I was 'head banging' to the music, getting excited with each awesome surprise. Man, to anyone who like DT, GET THIS ALBUM! It is as perfect as a bootleg as you are going to get! It captures the live feel of a DT shoow better than any album Ive ever heard.

    OK.. enough raving. But it is one freaken good album which proves that DT is one of the best live acts EVER!

    THANK YOU DREAM THEATER!

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:44:45 -0600 From: drnewb@spiff.net To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: KX/GC in St. Louis Message-ID: <199810290049.QAA17188@knight.axnet.net>

    Hey all, just seeing if anyone's going tot he King's X/Galactic Cowboys show at Mississippi nights in St. Louis Nov. 6. I plan on being there.

    Dale R. Newberry

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:55:36 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: OiaL as a DT converter Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.981028195431.26426B-100000@espy>

    Ah fuck it.. play the whole damned thing for them. I find it hard to concieve of a person who wouldnt like it! :)

    Ponte is a bit under the influence

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:24:13 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: OiaL cover Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.981028192303.27459B-100000@thunder>

    Did I mention that the album cover and inserts are top notch! And the Magesty symbol is evident in several spots :)

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:35:55 -0700 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Small rural buttville towns suck. Message-ID: <002d01be0277$e746e760$340d84d0@korgx3>

    >I couldn't agree more! I also live in a college town, we even have our own >Rock Society at Uni, AND we have FOUR stores here (All of which are totally

    Man, same thing here. I went to Hasting's and asked the guy at the counter and he gave me a puzzled look when I asked him about it, too. Except his puzzled look was because several other people were in there yesterday asking for it. They DID have like 5 copies or so of OiaL so I was content with their ability as a music merchandise outlet. Of course, they had none of DT's studio albums so all I can say is "What THE?!?"

    >Does someone know why this project was postponed?

    Because Rena Petrucci keeps popping kids out left and right. So far I think DT has enough kids with close enough ages to start a Ytse-Little League Team. It's great, ain't it? :)

    >Ah fuck it.. play the whole damned thing for them. I find it hard to >concieve of a person who wouldnt like it!

    Already did it. :) I was at work today and at the end of Take The Time a guy I work with comes over to my desk... "You're listening to Freebird?!?!? Nah, this ain't Skynnard, who is this? That Dream Theater band you're always listening to? For some reason I really like Dream Theater now..." :) I played him some other stuff and he was really digging it. heheh. OiaL rocks my perfect world.

    Still walking through the Halls of Medicine... (Damn tonsils) -- KorgX3

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    Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:48:07 -0800 From: Jessi <Diepudel@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: 5YIALT promo CDs available Message-ID: <36380197.5BA1@bigfoot.com>

    Hey, if anyone wants to get a good deal on promo copies of 5YIALT, you can go to www.ebay.com and do a search for Dream Theater, it's under new CD promo. Its an auction, but the highest bid so far is $16.99 and there are five copies available.

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