YTSEJAM digest 4250

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Thu Sep 03 1998 - 08:29:20 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 4250

    Today's Topics:

      1) supergroup/Bozzio
     by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
      2) some new bands to check out
     by "Steve Lehrfeld" <DREG@hutman.com>
      3) Re: San Francisco Show Review
     by Fonzaloon@aol.com
      4) Steve Stevens
     by Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
      5) Re: San Francisco Show Review
     by torres <Ralph.Torres@Corp.Sun.COM>
      6) LTE MP3
     by "Christopher J. Cerminara" <cxc393@psu.edu>
      7) Keyboard tab(?)
     by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
      8) Re: Keyboard tab(?)
     by TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org>
      9) Re: Seinfeld bass riff (completely NDTC)
     by "BassicRob" <bassicrob@geocities.com>
     10) Derek Sherinian Rumor
     by "Jim Colberg" <JamesArin@snet.net>
     11) Re: FW live CD?
     by Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com>
     12) Re: Steve Stevens
     by Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com>
     13) FW live
     by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
     14) Re: Klank
     by Paul fanguy <drumsrus@bellsouth.net>
     15) Chromakey IRC chat???
     by Bungle <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu>
     16) More ramblings from the Highway Star.
     by AL <al@isd.net>
     17) Al Di Meola Suggestions
     by "James R. McKenzie" <JRMCKENZIE@PDN.NET>
     18) Re: Seinfeld's bass riff
     by "Matt G." <vertigo@netwiz.net>

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    Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:40:28 -0800
    From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: supergroup/Bozzio
    Message-ID: <v01540b04b21394f7013c@[205.134.227.242]>

    Mike_Patrick@notes.hds.eds.com wrote:

    >Does anyone have info on the Stu Hamm, Steve Smith, Frank Gambale
    >collaboration? Better yet, does anyone have this yet?

    I do not have it yet but I'm looking for buying it.
    It is :

    SHOW ME WHAT YOU CAN DO with Vital guitarist Frank Gambale, Stu Hamm
    (Satriani's bassist) and Steve doing the drumming (street date: July 28).

    And for those who care to hear Terry Bozzio's, here is what my friend sent me:

    -----------------------
    Of all people, Terry Bozzio joined the Knack, who played at Slim's last
    week. After two stupid opening bands, the Knack started at 11:30pm and
    played so many non-"My Sharona" songs, but I was pretty much able to tune
    them out to just listen to Terry bash his massive kit. The highlight of the
    evening was, (no, not My Sharona), was when they played "Not
    Fadeaway"-Grateful Dead tune and played an incredible drum solo over the
    beat in the background. Also, you might want to look for his new CD:
    Drawing the Circle: new music for solo drumset.

    I've never seen anyone with a big enough ego and talent to come up with a
    drum solo CD! 10 tracks of incredible drum work, melodic and
    polyrhythmical, with REALLY busy foot work he calls ostionado.
    ----------------------

    I went to the record store to find "Drawing the Circle" but could not find
    it. Anyone has this album?

    Regards,
    AE

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump
    ICQ: #13676703

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    Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:38:49 -0400
    From: "Steve Lehrfeld" <DREG@hutman.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: some new bands to check out
    Message-ID: <1307357069-26890380@hutman.com>

    Hey guys/gals-

    We have some new bands you might be interested in checking out
    at our sight:

    Equinox - prog rock that combines classic Genesis and Styx with
    a new style and subtle Latin-American feel. Long instrumental
    passages combined with catchy hooks.

    Sanity - Swedish prog metal ala DT, Savatage, Malmsteem mixed
    with a touch of AOR.

    Clockwork - most of you guys are already familiar with them. Their
    new album will be coming out in fall/winter and their debut CD
    "Search" will then go out of print. soon to be a collectors item.

    plus we have some other fun stuff too. so come by, listen to a few
    clips, maybe buy a CD or two. thanks for listening.

    -steve

    ==============================================
    DREG Records - New & Improved Progressive Rock
    http://www.hutman.com/dreg/

      * Sanity * Clockwork * Equinox * Facade *
          * A Tribute to Kansas and more! *
    ==============================================

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    Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:51:11 EDT
    From: Fonzaloon@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: San Francisco Show Review
    Message-ID: <ba5376a7.35edd9ef@aol.com>

    In a message dated 9/2/98 4:07:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Nshsunsfan@aol.com
    writes:

    > Every time I read an entire digest of posts, I walk away pissed and feeling
    > as
    > though I need to defend DT from their own fans.

    I'm sad to say that I totally agree with that. I hardly even read an entire
    digest, or anything close to that anymore.... I joined this list hoping to get
    a better idea of who DT is, and see what kind of people their fans are, and
    just to have some interesting discussions. To a point, I have gotten that, but
    it seems that people are a little too hard on others. Oh, well, everyone's a
    critic. ;-)

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    Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 02:00:44 +0200
    From: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Steve Stevens
    Message-ID: <35EDDC2C.B231CFC0@mol.com.mk>

    Er, I guess another NDTC. :)

    I just heard TWANG! which is kinda tribute to Hank Marvin with bunch of
    guitairsts: Ritchi Blackmoore, Tony Iommi, Brian May...
    Now, among others is Steve Stevens and what he plays is Spanish guitar
    style solos. Hearing this and
    remembering reading the reviews og BLS, where also it's mentioned that
    he plays Spanish style, I wonder about this guy! Personally I don't know
    him, I heard he played with Billy Idol. Is this true? I might now him
    then, but
    what's this pre-occupation with Spanish flamenco guitars? :)

    Is he famous for this stuff or it's just a phase he's in these days? :)

    Dushko
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    Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:36:57 -0700 (PDT)
    From: torres <Ralph.Torres@Corp.Sun.COM>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: San Francisco Show Review
    Message-ID: <libSDtMail.9809021736.9370.torres@carpedm>

    In response to Nshsunsfan@aol.com:

    ><<From: Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
    >28/Aug/98 show: Best & Worst

    Actually, if you are going to go off on someone, make sure you have the
    right target. I posted the original message... Mauricio's post was a
    counter-opinion.

    >Did you notice how MP's hair has absolutely nothing to do with his ability
    >as a drummer? (Just checking).

    Uhm, I never said it did.

    You ever look at an actor and say "oh, I hate his new hair style"?
    Same thing. Doesn't mean you dislike the actor, or think any less
    of his talents.

    >That would be appropriate since they are my favorite band and I don't
    >subscribe to the peculiar Ytsejammer practice of cutting, slicing and
    >dicing DT members and their music.

    In my post I complimented each of DT's individual performances (with
    the possible exception of Derek). By saying that Palmer put on (IMO)
    the more impressive performance was in no way cutting down MP. Both
    are awesome.

    >In my not so humble opinion, Palmer played tight but no way in no day is he
    >going to give MP a run for his money,

    My comments were specific to this show only (notice how my post said
    "Best drum performance" not "Best Drummer") - I haven't seen/heard enough
    of Palmer to say if he is "better". But obviously you have, so I stand
    corrected.

    The digs at the MP's and Derek's looks/attire? Argueably unnecessary. I
    felt distracted by them, so that took something away from the "experience".
    No big deal and hardly a cut/slice/dice.

    >Every time I read an entire digest of posts, I walk away pissed and feeling
    >as though I need to defend DT from their own fans.

    Actually I get a similar feeling, though the cause is just the opposite.
    This list (and for that matter virtually every other band-specific list)
    treats band members as sacred.

    Hello!? The boys in DT are awesome which is why we all go to the shows and
    buy the CDs. However, they are 1) not perfect, 2) not the best musicians
    in the world. Ask them - they'll tell you.

    And don't feel the need to defend them:

     1) they are big boys who should be able to handle rational comments
        about their performances
     2) this is a mailing list in which people are free to voice opinions,
        both good and bad
        
    >I just don't have the heart for this. Therefore, I must say goodbye to
    >my newfound ytsefriends (critics).

    A little sensitive are we?

    >Take care and beware that one day you might wake up with no heros left in
    >your worlds.

    OK.

    Ralph

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    Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 21:10:48 -0400
    From: "Christopher J. Cerminara" <cxc393@psu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: LTE MP3
    Message-ID: <199809030111.VAA48920@f04n01.cac.psu.edu>

    I'm in the midst of converting my entire CD collection to MP3s, and I'm
    having trouble ripping Universal Mind off of LTE. Does anyone have, or
    know where I could download it? If you do, could you email me and let me
    know. Thanks.

    Chris

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    Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 21:58:11 -0400
    From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
    To: Ytsejam Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Keyboard tab(?)
    Message-ID: <35EDF7B3.8AB125C3@caribe.net>

    Hi, since my brother's been taking lessons for a while and we recently
    got a synth ( Korg N5 , thanx whoever sugested it...it roX!) ive been
    getting into playing the thing..and ive gotten some stuff down... but
    since my theory knowledge is very limited... i need some help..is there
    such a thing as keyboard tab?! hehe.. im thinking of buying the chord
    computer..which has a lcd diagram of the keyboard and you enter whatever
    chord you want and it shows you... but i dont know... any help would be
    appreciateD!

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                       Living comes much easier
                     Once we admit , We're dying.
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    Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 22:06:58 -0400
    From: TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Keyboard tab(?)
    Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980902220658.007cf3f0@mail.clemson.edu>

    >since my theory knowledge is very limited... i need some help..is there
    >such a thing as keyboard tab?! hehe.. im thinking of buying the chord

    yeah, it's got 96 lines. very handy. :) of course it takes like 4 pages for
    one measure... moo.

    *** END OF TRANSMISSION ***

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    Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 23:31:01 -0400
    From: "BassicRob" <bassicrob@geocities.com>
    To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: Seinfeld bass riff (completely NDTC)
    Message-ID: <000001bdbe8f$238a2a20$1ee5ae98@rob>

      Damon says:
    You can find that bassline on a tV's greatest hits CD of some sort, I
    think. Besides, I always thought that bass line was a keyboard. it
    just
    sounds too ... fake ... to be a bass. Wonder what synth they used fotr
    that.

    ----
    

    It is a keyboard. I've seen the guy on one of them talk shows or something. He even really uses his thumb and mouth for those popping noises. Can't be that hard to figure out though. What I wanna learn is that commercial for Payless where the footprints appear on the screen in sync with the bass. :) Probably same guy with the same keyboard.

    =A0=A0=A0-Rob, bassicrob@geocities.com ICQ# 15762800 bassicrob@new-york.crosswinds.net DT MP3 Archive, Artwork, LTE Desktop theme, bass solos, and me http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/1566

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    Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:51:02 -0400 From: "Jim Colberg" <JamesArin@snet.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Derek Sherinian Rumor Message-ID: <000001bdd6ee$11cdc360$03000004@jamesarin>

    Hi all, Been lurkin' for quite a while (new job, very busy) but I have a tidbit for ya. Rumor has it, from an industry insider, that Derek is on the way out. Why you ask? Caught in bed with the Keyboard tech's Wife. Do I believe this? I'm not sure, but I do remember Derek hitting on my wife right in front of me at Ytsecon 1. I actually had to say "Derek, were married." To which he replied "sorry" and turned away. :^( My new job is for a company that installs lighting systems and manufactures power distribution and motor control units for concert halls and tours. Meeting lots of cool people in "The Biz." :^)

    See Ya, Jim Colberg

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    Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 21:12:05 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: FW live CD? Message-ID: <35EE1715.F7114474@goodnet.com>

    Joe DeAngelo wrote: > > I just read the review of the new live Fates' CD (and it sounds great!). > I'm just curious if it's out yet? If not, when? The CD is not out in the US until October 6th, but apparently it was released this week in Europe (bastards! :-) Also, the Japanese version will have a bonus track on it, a cover of In Trance by the Scorpions... I don't know when that one is going to be released though...

    -- ~Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com> <ICQ # 2070538> "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." - http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<<

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    Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 21:14:30 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Steve Stevens Message-ID: <35EE17A6.28A8E3DE@goodnet.com>

    Dushko wrote: > > Now, among others is Steve Stevens and what he plays is Spanish guitar > style solos. Hearing this and > remembering reading the reviews og BLS, where also it's mentioned that > he plays Spanish style, I wonder about this guy! Personally I don't know > him, I heard he played with Billy Idol. Is this true? I might now him > then, but > what's this pre-occupation with Spanish flamenco guitars? :) > > Is he famous for this stuff or it's just a phase he's in these days? I think he's been into it for a long time... I never though much about him as a guitarist when he was with Idol, but he released a 12 minute song for Guitar World, where he played several different guitar styles and it was awesome. Unfortunately his first solo release "Atomic Playboys" kind of sucked... BLS definately make sup for it though...

    -- ~Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com> <ICQ # 2070538> "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." - http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<<

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    Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 01:01:48 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: FW live Message-ID: <35EE22BC.4F622927@home.com>

    > "I just read the review of the new live Fates' CD (and it sounds great!). > I'm just curious if it's out yet? If not, when?" > > It is scheduled for release on Oct 6th I believe. Where did you read to > review? If it is > online post the link. > > Thanks, > > Chris

    Somebody posted a review to the jam (maybe 2 digests ago). If if remember correctly (and I might not be), I think it was Arash.

    --

    - Joe D. jdeangelo@home.com

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heaven must be more than this / When angels waken with a kiss Sacred hearts won't take the pain / But mine will never be the same He stands before the window / His shadow slowly fading from the wall And from an ivory tower hears her call / "Let the light surround you"

    - Dream Theater, from "Surrounded" (lyrics by Kevin Moore) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 23:56:29 -0500 From: Paul fanguy <drumsrus@bellsouth.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Klank Message-ID: <35EE217D.613EE623@bellsouth.net>

    Klank rocks! On his cd, he thanks mike portnoy and dream theater, I'm not sure if mike did any tracks for him, though. Also, Klank's old band Circle of Dust rocks too. They have a kinda new one out called Disengage, it's probably the best industrial I've heard in a while. Another good Christian hardcore band is Living Sacrifice.

    Paul

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    Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 09:53:15 +0200 From: Bungle <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Chromakey IRC chat??? Message-ID: <35EE4AEB.7BEA767B@speed.eik.bme.hu>

    What's up? Nobody mentions the IRC chat with Kevin. Is there a transcript of the chat? Or was there a chat anyway?

    Cheers, Bungle

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    Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 05:30:09 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: More ramblings from the Highway Star. Message-ID: <35EE6FB1.1E2B2CD7@isd.net>

    THE GOOD

    I missed the first few songs Dream Theater played, but I had just seen th= em headlining a few months back in San Francisco. They are a great band to = see live, always very tight. The singer gets a little too operatic at times, but t= hey are just phenomenal musicians, and I really enjoyed their set. Apparently they ra= n out of time, because the didn't finish the last song they played, but they seem= ed to get a great reaction from the crowd, especially for an opening act. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Dream Theater took to the stage 8 minutes early and I was quite surprised= at the talent of this band. I had never heard any of their music prior to now a= nd they were more than equal to the task of being on this bill. I=92m sure we=92re go= ing to hear more from them as time goes on. I didn=92t know the names of any tunes but re= cognized quotes from Pink Floyd and Metallica. Mike Portnoy is an excellent drumm= er and has lots of chops, but he really doesn=92t have to flog those drums like= that. A little finesse would go a long way and who knows, it may even increase his spee= d a bit ;-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- THE SO SO

    Now, just a few quick comments on the show. Dream Theater was pretty good= for a warm-up act. Their bass player seemed to be the "heart" of the band an= d reminded by of Geddy Lee of Rush except he doesn't sing. ---------------------------------------------------------------- -- See ya, AL... The YTSE Progtologist

    Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It's fucking Vodka man --Tommy Chong

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    Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 07:28:30 -0400 From: "James R. McKenzie" <JRMCKENZIE@PDN.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Al Di Meola Suggestions Message-ID: <35EE7D5E.BC5FD12C@PDN.NET>

    Try Kiss my Axe. This album kix hieney! Also Orange & Blue. If you want "electric spanish jazz" these two albums are the zenith IMHO. These albums don't just send most other players back to school. They put them back in kindergarder. Anyway that's my no cents worth. 8->

    -- T H A N K Y O U

    James R. McKenzie

    JRMCKENZIE@PDN.NET

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    Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:10:38 -0700 From: "Matt G." <vertigo@netwiz.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Seinfeld's bass riff Message-ID: <199809031214.FAA15914@mail.netwiz.net>

    Damon wrote:

    >Besides, I always thought that bass line was a keyboard. it just >sounds too ... fake ... to be a bass. Wonder what synth they used fotr >that.

    That particular slap-bass patch that has since become a Seinfeld "staple" came stock with the classic Korg M-1.....patch #16 if I remember correctly.

    Boy, I miss that show. :( <sniffle> I think it's time to for me to catch some re-runs... :p

    Hasta,

    -Matt Guillory

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