YTSEJAM digest 4259

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Tue Sep 08 1998 - 03:22:28 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4258
     by AyameYuki@aol.com
      2) Films, new releases
     by NGA <nga@software-ag.de>
      3) Crossroads classical piece/Jazz recomendation to Totikus
     by Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
      4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4258
     by hajejan <hajejan@online.no>
      5) Brian Setzer/Movies/Josh Raisel
     by Nick Giannotti <nickg@gis.net>
      6) Live CD
     by ClPuritan@aol.com
      7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4258
     by "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
      8) Re: Johnny Got His Gun
     by drnewb@spiff.net
      9) Review: Wyzards live at Dragon*Con '98
     by Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
     10) ytsejam shirts
     by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
     11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4258
     by Awake77@aol.com
     12) Re: Met timing
     by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
     13) Re: Japanese Cds
     by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
     14) Re: Therion / movies / my sig.
     by Jim Shields <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>
     15) Copyrights, laws, ...
     by Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
     16) Re: Copyrights, laws, ...
     by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
     17) Steve vai and Crossroads...
     by "s1337866" <s1337866@student.gu.edu.au>
     18) Re: Films, new releases
     by Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com>

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    Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 09:12:12 EDT
    From: AyameYuki@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4258
    Message-ID: <5891d1aa.35f3dbac@aol.com>

    hey,,,to add to the topic of bands and movies : Fav Bands : Dream Theater ,
    Images And Words ( a cover band for DT ), Reality Check ( the techno version
    of DT ( long story ) ),and Beastie Boys ( we all need humor! )

    Fav Movies : those foreign ones with the band translations
                       The Nutty Professor
                        Moundville: A Visit to the Past ( ok ok, so its a video!
    but i like learning about my past! )

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    Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:59:23 +0100
    From: NGA <nga@software-ag.de>
    To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Films, new releases
    Message-ID: <01BDDA78.7BF89020@pcnga.software-ag.de>

    Hi all

    I see that some of you listed "A Clockwork Orange" and "The Dead
    Poets' Society" as some of your favourite films. I was just wondering
    if this was because both films are in some way related to Dream
    Theater.

    Since nobody else has mentioned my all-time favourite, here it is -
    "The Cook, The Thief, His Wife And Her Lover". You probably won't
    find this masterpiece in a cinema, but good video stores should be
    able to find it for you - very weird, very wonderful and an excellent
    production. There is also a musical link (albeit somewhat tenuous) -
    Ian Dury plays the chief pimp.

    And finally, some new releases to look forward to (for those that don't
    listen to just prog)

    MESHUGGAH - Chaosphere (October/November)
    THE GATHERING - title unknown (November 5th, double CD)
    MY DYING BRIDE - 34.788%...Complete (October 19th)

    stay safe and happy listening
    Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de)
    Currently playing: Kyuss - And The Circus Leaves Town

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    Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 16:09:46 +0200
    From: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Crossroads classical piece/Jazz recomendation to Totikus
    Message-ID: <35F3E92A.76B2CCAE@mol.com.mk>

    > Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 08:41:47 PDT
    > From: "Gabriel Fran?a" <ggspider@hotmail.com>
    > Subject: Fav movies
    >
    > About Crossroads, the classical piece plyed in the end of the
    > movie is Paganini`s Capricho 5, isn`t it??

    Yep, Pagannini - Capriccio No. 5 !
    I have it played from Leonidas Kavacos.

    > From: Totikus <totikus@gmx.net>
    > Subject: Jazz
    >
    > Music Blvd is offering two free jazz cd's that were mentioned here -
    > DiMeola's Elegant Gypsy and Mahavishnu Orchestra's Birds Of Fire.
    > Which one would be a better purchase for a jazz newbie?

    Hi Totikus, what's up? :)
    Well, it's certainly a difficult choice, really!

    You choose what you like most:

    - Al DiMeola's album is maybe his best known and acknowledged stuff, and
    certainly become popular with it. Great album, great playing, Spanish
    music influences all over it. Jazz Rock shredding, awesome percusions
    work.

    - Mahavishnu: Also best known album of the band! Crazy stuff! But MUCH,
    MUCH more weirder music than Al. Folks call it jazz fusion music, and
    Mahavishnu were one of the pioneers in that style. If you never heard
    Mahavishnu music it might be difficult to get use to it, but once you
    do, it's great! Great playing all over it, crazy guitar solos, crazy
    Billy Cobham drums...

    Hope it helps at least a little bit! :) If you want more infos e-mail me
    privately.

    Dushko
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    Date: Mon, 7 Sep 98 16:19:59 +0200
    From: hajejan <hajejan@online.no>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4258
    Message-ID: <199809071418.QAA24010@mail1.sol.no>

    >Hi, everyone.
    >Has anybody noticed that Japanese CDs sound better than american and
    >german CDs? I have both japanese (with the baby CDs) and US versions of
    >Awake and FII and I no longer use the american ones.
    >I have also both japanese, american german versions of CDs of other bands,
    >and the japanese still sound better. Can anybody give a technical
    >explanation for this difference?
    ??

    I think this sounds completely out there... Of course I don't own the =
    jap. version, but I can't see why there SHOULD be a difference..

    Anyway.. I've been wondering what the whole deal is.. Why can't they =
    just sell the US version in Japan? (Or the US version with japanese =
    liner notes)

    Ciao,
    Haje

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    Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 10:18:03 -0400
    From: Nick Giannotti <nickg@gis.net>
    To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Brian Setzer/Movies/Josh Raisel
    Message-ID: <01BDDA48.D0926F00@dialin.mitre.org>

    Three things:=20

    1. Anyone into smoking guitar - get the new Brian Setzer CD. Get it. GET =
    IT. Say it with me: "I will get this CD." He - and his 17-ish piece band =
    - are on fire. Go get it. Do yourself the favor.=20

    2. Jumping on the bandwagon, here are some of my fave movies:=20

    The Star Wars Trilogy (ESTB, SW, RotJ, in that order)
    Braveheart
    Clerks
    Mallrats
    Raiders of the Lost Ark
    Tora, Tora, Tora!
    The Addams Family
    Money Talks
    The Jackal
    The Prophecy
    The Quest (yeah, it's cheesy, but the fight scenes at the end are =
    UNREAL)
    Urotskodoji I-IV (The Wandering Kid)
    The Usual Suspects

    and Joshua Raisel: you're working for the WWF? That's so friggin' =
    COOL!!! :)=20

    -Nick Giannotti ( A closet wrestling fan )

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    Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:09:53 EDT
    From: ClPuritan@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Live CD
    Message-ID: <77f74522.35f3f741@aol.com>

    I have some questions about the Once in A Livetime. Perhaps whoever said he
    has an advance copy can answer them.
    1. Are all the songs taken from the Paris show?
    2. Is it the Fasten Your Seatbelts version of the YtseJam?
    3. Do they play Caught in a Web or Caught in Alice's Nine Inch Tool Garden?
    4. Does Peruvian Skies include the snippets of Have a Cigar and Enter
    Sandman?
    5. Do they actually play all of Metropolis Pt. 1 and Learning to Live or do
    they shorten them significantly into a medley?
    6. What are the trackbreakdowns and times?
    I apologize if these questions have already been answered, but I just got back
    on the Jam recently.
    Thanks,
    Mark

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    Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:20:01 -0400
    From: "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4258
    Message-ID: <19980907152014.FOFU1362@239157822worldnet.att.net>

    >the movie from the metallica video (one)...I dont know the name of it but
    >it's a war movie about a soldier that looses his arms and legs....

    That would be Johnny Got His Gun, adapted from the novel by Dalton Trumbo.

    Andrew

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    Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:34:25 -0500
    From: drnewb@spiff.net
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Johnny Got His Gun
    Message-ID: <199809071630.JAA23844@odin.ax.com>

    > the movie from the metallica video (one)...I dont know the name of it but
    > it's a war movie about a soldier that looses his arms and legs....
    Johnny Got His Gun. Haven't seen the movie, but the books is
    great. A little psycho at times, but really good.
    Just a few favourite movies of mine (that haven't already been
    mentioned):
    Easy Rider
    The Stoned Age
    Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure
    This is Spinal Tap
    The Exorcist (one of the scariest movies, IMO)
    Stripes
    Animal House
    Psycho

    Dale R. Newberry

    drnewb@spiff.net

    "The blues is losing someone you love and not having enough
    money to immerse yourself in drink." -Henry Rollins

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    Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:00:23 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
    To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Review: Wyzards live at Dragon*Con '98
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980907122921.24034A-100000@peach.negia.net>

    Greetings ye 'jamanoids...

    Catching up at work after Dragon*Con Thursday-Sunday. I met sooo many cool
    people and saw lots of cool stuff. You should go next year.

    Anyway, the point of this little note is to remark on the Wyzards concert
    late Saturday afternoon at the 'con. In a word: in-fuckin-credible. One of
    the best concerts this year (and after the 'tage show a couple months back
    and the two Buffett shows in July, that's saying something).

    The soundcheck and setup went on for about 45 minutes (par for the course
    for Dragon*Con). (sorry, Pellaz, but it's true). It was kind of
    interesting, actually, watching them zero in on exactly the right sound
    for each instrument. Mark Peters (the Big Swifty) rolled in about twenty
    minutes before they started playing and we spent the time chatting about
    the con and music in general. Good to see ya again, Swifty.

    Then the show started and I forgot everything but the music. Absolutely
    astounding playing from all concerned (I saw a lot of surprised looks in
    the audience when I could tear myself away from staring at the stage, like
    "good grief, I had no idea that they were *this* good!!!!" Trust me,
    folks -- they ARE.

    Second note: The show was loud. Very loud. Very very very loud. :) All the
    instruments could be heard clearly and each of the four vocalists could be
    heard just fine (yes, all four of the bandmembers sing), but overall it
    just slammed you like a sledgehammer. Not that I minded this, during the
    show; the wall-of-sound thing is very impressive. But after the
    show....well, my ears are still ringing a little bit, two days later. :)

    The music itself: Very impressively executed. They played four Glass
    Hammer songs ("Morannon Gate" from _Journey of the Dunadan_, "Lliusion"
    from _Perelandra_, and "The Conflict" and "On To Evermore" from _On to
    Evermore_), and several Wyzards songs including the epic masterpiece "All
    of the World" (over 19 minutes). David Carter can shred with the best of
    them on guitar, while Steve Babb keeps a thunderous low end going on bass,
    Walter Moore's complex drumming pounds relentlessly, and Fred Schendel
    bids fair to outdo the mighty Keith Emerson with his searing keyboards.
    Steve handles most of the lead vocals, but Walter sang lead on "The
    Conflict" and David took lead vocals for parts of "All of the World".
    Incredible show; I was wishing they'd been given about three hours to
    properly showcase all their material.

    The band is very friendly and is always willing to hang out and talk to
    their fans. I see them every year at Dragon*Con (usually as Glass Hammer)
    and they always put on a great performance. Go to
    http://www.glasshammer.com/ and check it out.

    Wyzards rules and their show alone was worth admission to D*C. For all the
    other stuff I saw and did....well, let's just say that Wyzards was the
    best of a very enjoyable Saturday. If they come anywhere near you, GO SEE
    THEM. You'll be glad you did.

    Ta,
    Phil

    =======================================================================
    Phil Carter -- satriani@negia.net (work), carter@negia.net (personal)
    Tech Support Manager, NorthEast Georgia Internet Access, 546-5787
    "I should never have written all those tank programs."
            -- Kevin Flynn, "Tron"
    Currently playing: The Changelings -- "Terra Firma"

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    Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 13:34:13 -0400
    From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
    To: jason.breitweg@desy.de, ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: ytsejam shirts
    Message-ID: <35F41915.A0CBFCBE@bigfoot.com>

    >So are the new Ytsejam t-shirts on sale yet? I have yet again
    >misplaced the URL of their page. Could someone please e-mail me with
    >the details? Thanks.

    Jason, and anyone else who missed the info last time:

    Yes, the shirts are done, I've already sold some of them, and things
    seem to be working out nicely. All the info's in my page, see the sig
    below, and bookmark it this time, punk! Don't make me send the
    Undertaker after you!

    --
    .................................................................
    Joshua Rasiel         jrasi@bigfoot.com         Razi on IRC & ICQ
    Check out Another Page at http://www.j51.com/~mrasiel. Hot diggity!
    

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    Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:02:04 EDT From: Awake77@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4258 Message-ID: <89dc7e2d.35f42dac@aol.com>

    In a message dated 98-09-07 08:07:22 EDT, you write:

    << About Crossroads, the classical piece plyed in the end of the movie is Paganini`s Capricho 5, isn`t it?? >> Yeah, the end piece in crossroads is "sorta" paginini's 5th caprice. The 'real' version (for the violin) actually makes the Crossroads version seem like a walk in the park:)

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    Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 22:58:36 +0200 From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Met timing Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980907205836.0069b3a0@unet.univie.ac.at>

    Dushko wrote some shit about the length of MetI on I&W compared to LatM. Im not so surprised to be honest. They are excellent musicians and so should not have any timing troubles, huh? But, have you compared the length of Lie on Awake and the version they did on this tour. Due to the fact they want to be "groovy" which attracts a wider crowd they slowed it down awfully. I loved it still, but it was hell slow. Or was i really that drunk? ;-) I had the general feeling that they do the songs live now a bit slowed down. Just a feeling, though. UAGM was as it should be, fast, ass kicking and rockin. but dont get me wrong now, i have nothing against slowing down songs (too much), especially since its only a feeling i had.

    Dryheat (...in Houston they say that?)

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    Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 23:09:41 +0200 From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Japanese Cds Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980907210941.006835d4@unet.univie.ac.at>

    Somebody wanted to know why CDs from different countries might sound different. Well, yea, this can really occur. It always depends on the factory that produces the final discs. David Gilmour could tell you loads of stories bout that. Producing the live PULSE abum they had serious troubles with pressing the discs. They were just sounding like shit. Then they sent the same glassmaster to another factory (which than made all for Europe) and he was very pleased with the result. And i remember in an interview he said: "In the US the band are on Sony and Sony have done their own glass over there and that was a whole other can of worms." (Guitarist interview, 7/95, p.38) See what i mean? So there are reasons why your FIIs might sound a bit different. ytsegreetings

    Dryheat (...in Houston they say that?)

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    Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 16:52:29 -0500 From: Jim Shields <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Therion / movies / my sig. Message-ID: <l03130300b21a04b5e688@[128.83.154.135]>

    >> Spice World > >Huh?

    Notice that this was under the heading "Not Comedies"

    >> Monty Python and the Holy Grail > >The funniest movie ever, IMO.

    your opinion is wrong. Spaceballs is the funniest movie ever. end of story.

    >> Star Wars Trilogy > >Anybody who hasn't seen these........... shame, shame. >I was absolutely shocked to find out that a LOT of the young people I >work with (juniors and seniors is H.S. - and freshmen, sophomores in >college) have never seen ANY of them! I had really thought everybody >had seen 'em.

    yeah, my friend's little sister is like "so what's the big deal?" about these movies. It's a real shame.

    one movie I left out, though, is Strange Brew. damn funny.

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    Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 00:33:21 +0200 From: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Copyrights, laws, ... Message-ID: <35F45F31.E62C3A9D@mol.com.mk>

    Hi all!

    Have a question: Can someone e-mail me privately and make clear to me about these things:

    - Can I put on my site songs of bands, in my case - RealAudio format? Whole songs! Let's say putting the whole song DT - TTT? - Is it allowed, can someone sue me for it? :) - Anything else about it?

    Thanks, Dushko -- \|/ _____________________________o_o_______ <| \ / |> <| "Chuck! Chuck! This is your cousin ...|> <| your cousin, Marvin Berry! |> <| Remember the new sound you were |> <| looking for? Well listen to THIS!" |> <| |> <| - Back To The Future I |> <|_______________________________________|>

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    Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 00:27:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk> Subject: Re: Copyrights, laws, ... Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980908002524.19353A-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>

    > - Can I put on my site songs of bands, in my case - RealAudio format? > Whole songs! Let's say putting the whole song DT - TTT?

    Sure, you can put whatever you want on a website.

    > - Is it allowed, can someone sue me for it? :)

    No, it's not allowed (unless you have permission from the artist) and you *can* get sued for it. I have the permission of Lemur Voice to have their album up (I run the official site), so I can not be charged (being that I have permission to do so).

    > - Anything else about it?

    Yes. According to reports, the record labels are _really* going to start cracking down on people who have bootleg material on the net. I'd be *real* careful about advertising it on a commercial medium such as the 'jam.

    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= syrinx@dreamt.org / syrinx@mindspring.com erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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    Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:12:02 EST+10000 From: "s1337866" <s1337866@student.gu.edu.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Steve vai and Crossroads... Message-ID: <AC2C0D22B0@morpheus.student.gu.edu.au>

    Aparently the duel will come out as a part of a 10 Cd (!) Vai box set which may or may not be released.....along with bits from other movies by Vai ie Boill and Ted's Bogus Journey etc.....

    For more info on the box set check out www.vai.com

    There's heaps of cool stuff in it ....I just hope it comes out!

    Cheers

    Paul D.

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    Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 01:55:42 -0500 From: Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Films, new releases Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980908015542.008a7190@academ04.mty.itesm.mx>

    At 07:17 AM 7/09/98 -0700, NGA wrote: > >Hi all > >I see that some of you listed "A Clockwork Orange" and "The Dead >Poets' Society" as some of your favourite films. I was just wondering >if this was because both films are in some way related to Dream >Theater. >

    not really, I've liked "dead poets society" way before I first heard ACOS or even about Dream Theater...i guess it's becuase I saw it at an age where that kind of movies influenced me a lot...I liked Clockwork Orange but I just wouldnt rate it as one of my all time favs...Im sure I have more favs that I didnt list but they are so many....

    about new movies....I really want to see "pi", I dont think it's going to be on local theaters anytime soon but i saw some reviews and the trailer on e!....it sounds interesting....

    when I first saw "Contact" Mauricio told me that he thought of that movie as the ACOS of the film bussiness....it was long, interesting and one of the best movie he had seen...correct me if I quoted you wrong mauricio....

    > --- MP3 of the week - "Coyote Face (LIVE)" By Z http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/2025/

    Alan Estrada Adler, ICQ #9267174 Monterrey, Mexico -------------------------------------------------------- TAKE NOTE OF MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: alan_estrada@bigfoot.com

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