YTSEJAM Digest 4254
Today's Topics:
1) Yahoo/Sandbox football draft
by lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu
2) Platypus similarity
by NGA <nga@software-ag.de>
3) Re: Arash's Enchant review...
by "Mike Patrick" <mepatric@indy.net>
4) Superior is here!
by Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
5) Superior-Younique
by Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
6) Re: Genesis rumor/ Vanilla Ice
by Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
7) Al DiMeola musicians
by Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
8) Ytsefootball on www.sandbox.net, and acronyms.
by Jeremy Hallum <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
9) Re: Superior is here!
by "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com>
10) John PEtrucci page
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
11) Re: Superior is here!
by TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org>
12) Seinfeld
by szebro1@gl.umbc.edu
13) Equinox
by Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com>
14) Book 'em, Danno...
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
15) Re: I feel so lost... I wanna go home...
by "Elydian" <elydian@netcomuk.co.uk>
16) Superior-Younique review
by Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
17) Prog CDs for Sale
by DP <dhplotki@students.wisc.edu>
18) We are the Korg, you will be arpeggiated...
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:16:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Yahoo/Sandbox football draft
Message-ID: <199809041316.JAA07848@umbc8.umbc.edu>
I had read on their website that because so many leagues have their
draft scheduled for Thursday, that it may take a few days for all of
those drafts to process. They said that you most likely won't have any
time to make any roster moves before Sunday's games. No benching, no
waivers, etc.
-- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ / / L. Jason Hartman "And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend \ \ lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu And I'll never be open again / / And I'll have no more dreams to defend \ \ Univ. Of Maryland, And I'll never be open again " / / Baltimore County - Kevin Moore : Dream Theater \ \ / / "Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot." \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/------------------------------
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 15:21:16 +0100 From: NGA <nga@software-ag.de> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Platypus similarity Message-ID: <01BDD817.A9D296C0@pcnga.software-ag.de>
Hi all
I was listening to the Platypus album early this morning, and I couldn't help noticing a strong similarity between the track "I'm With You" and some of the songs on the last Silverchair album. Anybody else notice this? And now you biology assignment: which other mammal (other than the duck-billed platypus) also lays eggs? Will there soon be a project with Dream Theater participation named after this animal?
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: Opeth - My Arms, Your Hearse
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 22:33:47 -0500 From: "Mike Patrick" <mepatric@indy.net> To: "DT" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Arash's Enchant review... Message-ID: <199809041348.IAA16235@indy1.indy.net>
O.K., I've not yet heard the new Enchant but...
I've seen one or two reviews that toally contradict Arash - huh, go figure. In fact, one was by someone who had never heard Enchant before, and their general impression (after hearing rumors that the new album was not very 'progressive') said something to the effect that, 'It seems complex enough, I don't know what the complaining is about'.
Remember, tons of double bass and a flurry of 32nd notes does not a 'progressive' band make. Of course if you're an Empty Tremor addict, you may forget that from time to time.
Mike Patrick Indianapolis, IN mepatric@indy.net
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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 09:55:19 -0400 From: Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Superior is here! Message-ID: <35EFF147.688312C7@trw.com>
I was pleasantly surprised when I got my mail out of my mailbox and there was an envelope from Paul Cashman. I haven't listened to Younique completely yet, but it is a bit different from their previous release.
A better review will be forthcoming. I just wanted to let the word out that the shipment is sent!
NP:Superior-Younique -- |----------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty Email: Pat.Daugherty@trw.com | | Web : http://www.abs.net/~patnbeck/pat/pat.html | |================================================================| | "Hail To The Redskins, Hail Victory" | |----------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 10:06:29 -0400 From: Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Superior-Younique Message-ID: <35EFF3E5.30D7F24B@trw.com>
Just looked through the cd booklet. I forgot it was supposed to be signed by the band...
Says Andre Matos sings backing vocals. What songs? Sounds like he might be on track 4.
NP:Superior-Younique -- |----------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty Email: Pat.Daugherty@trw.com | | Web : http://www.abs.net/~patnbeck/pat/pat.html | |================================================================| | "Hail To The Redskins, Hail Victory" | |----------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:11:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org> To: we be ytsejamming <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Genesis rumor/ Vanilla Ice Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980904095437.28297A-100000@gs.bass.org>
On Fri, 4 Sep 1998 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> I saw the end of the interview and both Phil and Peter were talking about > why they leaved the band...then after the interview they broadcasted some > clips that said Genesis archive and some footage of a recent photo session > of all the members and exmembers of genesis.... > > > what's going on?
What you probably saw was a promotional interview for the "recent" (well, it came out here a month or two ago, and has been in rotation on my CD player ever since) Archive 1967-75. Peter came in and rerecorded some of the obscured vocals on the live tracks (as his costume pieces interfered with the sonic quality). And, yes, all of the former members got together again for a photo op and to shoot the shit. But there are no plans to reconvene the original Genesis lineup. The new lineup is here for now.
> Whew, sorry about that, i'm possesed by Vanilla Ice. Moo. > Kee-rist. *That* was damn funny. teehee. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul's thought for the Month:
Don't sweat it, we'll get it back to you. Overkill...
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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 16:12:02 +0200 From: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Al DiMeola musicians Message-ID: <35EFF532.4565D862@mol.com.mk>
> From: "Younis Hilal" <yhilal@lightspeed.net> > Subject: Re: supergroup/Bozzio; Al Di Meola Suggestions > > Who plays bass and drums on Di Meola's CDs anyway? I don't think > anybody's mentioned this. Anybody famous?
Oh yeah, quite a bit in the jazz rock world. More or less they're always the same folks around him:
- The regular ones:
Steve Gadd - drums Anthony Jackson - bass Mingo Lewis - percussions Barry Miles, Jan Hammer - keyboards, synhts,...
- Sometimes guests on his albums:
Stanley Clarke - bass on some titles (you bet he's famous ;) Lenny White - drums Alphonso Mouzon - drums Jaco Pastorius - bass (a bass legend, Weather Report band) Chick Corea - keys (legend ...... er,... no comment :) Paco De Lucia - acoustic guitar (the master of flamenco guitar)
I guess he was calling his old friends from Return to Forever to join him wheneve he liked. :) All this counts for his 5,6 first albums, I don't know about later when he sailed the calm waters.
Hope it helps, Dushko ------------------ \|/ _____________________________o_o_______ <| \ / |> <| "Chuck! Chuck! This is your cousin ...|> <| your cousin, Marvin Berry! |> <| Remember the new sound you were |> <| looking for? Well listen to THIS!" |> <| |> <| - Back To The Future I |> <|_______________________________________|>
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:12:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeremy Hallum <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ytsefootball on www.sandbox.net, and acronyms. Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.980904110822.20310C-100000@bu-ast.bu.edu>
On Thu, 3 Sep 1998 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
Just to add another voice to the plea. We need 2 (yes TWO!) more people for the FREE ytsefantasy ytsefootbal league on www.sandbox.net. It's FREE! If we get two more folks, then we can finally draft.
The league is: Ytsefootball League The passwd is: kevmo
See ya there!!
> ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:38:03 +0000 > From: "Younis Hilal" <yhilal@lightspeed.net> > Subject: Re: Derek RUMOR SQUASH; Believer > > You know, this isn't the kind of interaction I'd like to see between > DT members. It really should be more like the exchange that MP seems > to have going with this mailing list (correcting people's > misconceptions about who makes up the set-list for DT's shows, > correcting mis-statements about song-writing contributions to DT > songs, commenting on discussions concerning time-sigs, etc.). But I > guess DS doesn't deserve to have that kind of rapport with this > list because, hey, he's just a replacement for Kevin till the band > finds a REAL keyboardist. > > What a bunch of bullshit.
Dear Mr. Hilal,
FOAD ESAD HTH
Love and kisses -jeremy (the official Acronym supplier for the 2002 Olympics. All Acronyms are Year 2000 compliant).
+================================================================+ Do you believe...all the things you are seeing are true? The Start is where the End is leading you Do you believe...all's as twisted as one would percieve? Seek the answer, and soon you'll believe. -Symphony X Through the Looking Glass +================================================================+ Jeremy Hallum, Assistant System Manager & Grad Student, Astronomy, Boston University/jhallum@bu.edu:::jhallum@dreamt.org
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:08:43 -0400 From: "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Superior is here! Message-ID: <00dc01bdd81e$4a58e440$2319efce@KezWork>
>I was pleasantly surprised when I got my mail out of my mailbox and >there was an envelope from Paul Cashman. I haven't listened to Younique >completely yet, but it is a bit different from their previous release.
I hope that it's different from their previous releases, 'cause I've heard some pretty glowing praise about this band in the past, and I ordered this one without ever hearing them.
After two listens, I'm unsure of where the hype came from. It's ok, but I'm not hooked yet.
I'll get back to you after further listens.
Nice to see people you "know" in the liner notes, shame they couldn't spell Pammy's last name(or is everyone else wrong?).
Thanks, Mr. Cashman, for the service, and I'll highly recommend you to my friends. :)
Back to listening, Kez
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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 12:23:43 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: Ytsejam Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: John PEtrucci page Message-ID: <35F0140F.EC842AB1@caribe.net>
Can anyone send that URL my way please...
Thanx
"[...] people will cringe..." - John Petrucci
In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro Tech Support Rep : Caribbean Internet Service mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229
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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 12:24:12 -0400 From: TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Superior is here! Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980904122412.007d6100@mail.clemson.edu>
>After two listens, I'm unsure of where the hype came from. It's ok, but I'm not >hooked yet.
hgave you heard samples from Behind? I haven't gotten my Younique yet but i've heard that it's a little different than Behind. All i've heard from supoerior are 2 wav files, from Why and Truth (or trust?) and i liked both of those. So yeah, check out samples of their older album, maybe that's more what you'd like or sumfin. i have no idea cuz loike i said i aint heard anything from the new one yet :) Moo.
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:36:28 -0400 (EDT) From: szebro1@gl.umbc.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Seinfeld Message-ID: <199809041636.MAA09744@umbc9.umbc.edu>
if you want to cop the Seinfeld theme, find the slap bass sound on your Korgs and mee around in a E blues scale with a b5. You're guaranteed to find it.
Steve Z
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:43:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Equinox Message-ID: <19980904164340.12965.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com>
> Equinox - prog rock that combines classic Genesis and Styx with > a new style and subtle Latin-American feel. Long instrumental > passages combined with catchy hooks. >
Hooold on a minute.. Are these guys from Panama by any chance? I remember seeing a certain 'Equinox' live about a year ago. I had no idea they had released a CD.
Ernesto
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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 13:09:40 -0400 From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: erik@dca.net Subject: Book 'em, Danno... Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980904130940.008225e0@pop.wam.umd.edu>
Found this on the Highway Star. Pretty funny.
>>> September 4 Deep Purple Singer Charged With Assault Deep Purple frontman Ian Gillan will have to make a return appearance in Pontiac, Mich., now that prosecutors have charged the 54-year-old singer with a misdemeanor stemming from a concert at Pine Knob Aug. 15. The Associated Press reports that Gillan, upon witnessing the treatment of a fan by security guard Michael Kennedy, took his microphone and struck Kennedy in the head with it, causing a minor cut that didn't need medical attention. In a statement sent to investigators, Gillan said that he thought Kennedy's actions could have incited a bigger situation. "With 12,000 people at fever pitch," Gillan wrote, "the last thing you need to introduce is the ingredient violence. What would happen if the fan was with a large group of friends who decided to get involved by wading in with fists and feet? If it happens again, I will do the same thing. I have witnessed the consequences of these things in action, and they range from worse to far worse." For his part, security guard Kennedy said, "We were not roughing [the fan] up," adding that he "was just doing my job." Bruce Payne, Gillan's manager, said that Kennedy's "pride was probably hurt more than his head." "I've seen everything at Pine Knob," Dirk Feneley, a sheriff's deputy for Oakland County, told Pontiac's Oakland Press. "But I've never seen it where the lead singer bends over and hits someone." [ Source: Wall of Sound, September 3 1998] >>>
Brian "Club" Henderson
=================================== Name: W. Brian Henderson, Esq. Contact: hender@wam.umd.edu ROBOT-CENTRAL: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/ His Faithful Bootleg Page: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/Musik/Boot/ ===================================
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:49:37 +0100 From: "Elydian" <elydian@netcomuk.co.uk> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: I feel so lost... I wanna go home... Message-ID: <01bdd82c$624cc180$LocalHost@elydian>
>>Oh, it would be so much easier to be mainstream... I just keep arguing = >>with my friends that prog is a better kind of music - and not a chance = >>is there that they'll agree. > >maybe you just phrased it wrong or something, but if that's what you meant >to say, then this is what we call a prog snob. Prog isn't a better kind of >music, you just happen to like it more. It's like those jazz dudes who
The truth is, that prog has a damn sight more integrity than commercial music. The word 'commercial' says it all; it's composed to rake in the biggest audience possible, to make money. The music is formulated. You'll find that almost every piece of commercial music has a verse/chorus layout, just because that's what everyone else in commercial music does, and that the writers don't seem to realise anything else is possible. I'm fed up of people calling people elitist snobs just because they put commercial music down. Wake up people, they're right.
We live in a time in which art is corrupted by money and fame, but most people don't seem to realise it.
======================================================= In a world which your mind controls, belief is reality. -- E-Mail: elydian@netcomuk.co.uk -- ICQ UIN: 1491970 -- Web Pages: http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~elydian/ =======================================================
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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 15:37:52 -0400 From: Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Superior-Younique review Message-ID: <35F04190.59E20BA6@trw.com>
Superior goes in various directions on this disc from their previous effort.
Track1-Not With Me:muscially sorta reminds me of Sepultura, then the Superior vocals and sound kicks in.
Track2-God's Funeral:is basically a hard driven metal tune
Track3-Nothing:starts off very slow and very soft. It then slowly grows into a rocking tune with some cool vocals.
Track4-Think:some wacky vocals on this one. Musically it rocks. Sounds like Matos sings on this but probably not...
Track5-Stop:another tune that starts out slow and soft. Then about halfway into the tune, Superior does NIN...
Track6-Be Mine:a slow tune that has some great vocal harmonies. It does have some heavier moments. I like the vocals on this one.
Track7-Amok:sorta sounds like they are going to NIN again, but turns into a rocking tune.
Track 8-Free Minded:starts out sounding like a Japanese tune. Turns into a Swing type tune, has some rocking parts and a Swing instrumental piece.
Track 9-Detect:Myself:Matos definitely sings on this one. Starts out slow and turns into a rocking tune.
Track 10-This Promise:An incredible ballad. A great way to end the disc.
Dont buy this cd thinking it will be similar to Behind. They try a lot of new things. At first it is unexpected but repeated listens reveals that overall this cd rocks...
NP:Superior-Younique -- |----------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty Email: Pat.Daugherty@trw.com | | Web : http://www.abs.net/~patnbeck/pat/pat.html | |================================================================| | "Hail To The Redskins, Hail Victory" | |----------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 15:35:06 -0500 From: DP <dhplotki@students.wisc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Prog CDs for Sale Message-ID: <199809042025.PAA81500@mail1.doit.wisc.edu>
Hello--
I've got the following cds for sale. Please email me privately is you have an interest in any of them:
1. Dream Theater: "Dream in Progress" ($20) 2. Dream Theater: "Hollow Years" single, german edition ($10) 3. Vauxdvihl: "To Dimension Logic" ($6) 4. Ozric Tentacles: "Pungent Effulgent" ($5) 5. Rush: "2112 Days" ($18) 6. Spocks Beard: "Beware of Darkness" ($7)
All except the Hollow Years and single and the Rush are used, but in good condition.
Thanks...
David Plotkin
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:36:23 -0600 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: We are the Korg, you will be arpeggiated... Message-ID: <003401bdd843$b5413580$4af086cc@korgx3>
>if you want to cop the Seinfeld theme, find the slap bass sound on your >Korgs and mee around in a E blues scale with a b5. You're guaranteed to >find it.
Egad, slap your own bass, Stevie, and keep your hands off of mine! :P
Yup, I'm back, and you're in for a world of hurt. :) -- KorgX3
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