YTSEJAM Digest 4270
Today's Topics:
1) Autumn Leaf
by Richard Warren <rwarren1@midsouth.rr.com>
2) Re: Bunnies and JP and whatnot
by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net>
3) Rush in the Hall of Fame
by DragynLMC3@aol.com
4) 2001, Part II
by "Karol!" <miroel@uol.com.br>
5) 2001, Part I
by "Karol!" <miroel@uol.com.br>
6) Dream Theater Font
by "Eduardo Arcos B." <earcos@tsi.com.mx>
7) The latest news from Mike Portnoy
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
8) WCW guy wearing a SAVATAGE shirt
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@umail.ucsb.edu>
9) improv_isation in DT, DTC
by Nathan Rood <nrood@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
10) RAIN CHEQUE PRE-ORDERING
by Stixntrixx@aol.com
11) Re: WCW guy wearing a SAVATAGE shirt
by Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
12) Heavy Metal
by "J.T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com>
13) News from AntiMaxim OnLine
by Purgatori <ladyjane@eden.rutgers.edu>
14) Dream Theater in southamerica
by Oscar Garcia Verastegui <trashboy@amauta.rcp.net.pe>
15) Dream Theater in southamerica
by Oscar Garcia Verastegui <trashboy@amauta.rcp.net.pe>
16) sharing
by "Robert Newcomb" <newcombr@netdot.com>
17) Pulp Fiction
by CyberDuke <duskob@moil.com.mk>
18) Last albums/reviews
by NGA <nga@software-ag.de>
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:18:15 -0500
From: Richard Warren <rwarren1@midsouth.rr.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Autumn Leaf
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980913121813.007453d0@mail.midsouth.rr.com>
>Has anyone tried sending money to Autumn Leaf Records for the Spock's Beard
>Bootleg but received their envelope back with a big "RETURN TO SENDER"
>stamp on it? Stamp was on there, along with the correct address, checked
>it a thousand times, but it didnt go through...Have no idea why. Any
>suggestions would be appreciated.
I sent them money a month or so ago and received the 2CD set in about a
week. I just received an e-mail from the guy saying he was stuck in Europe
without a flight. He didn't go into details but indicated he would be back
soon. I can't explain the "RETURN TO SENDER".
Anyway, the Spock Beard Live at the Roxy boot is quite nice and definitely
worth the $19. The packaging is very nice for a homemade boot. It even
has color, stick-on labels on the CDR. I recommend this boot. It is a
little bassy but nothing a little eq. won't fix. Aside from the bass, it
is a very clean recording and does not have a lot of intrusive crowd noise.
Richard
e-mail: rwarren1@midsouth.rr.com
www: http://home.midsouth.r.com/rwarren
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:14:46 -0400
From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Bunny1682@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bunnies and JP and whatnot
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980913141446.00b353d4@postoffice.ptd.net>
This is NOT a flame.
Bunny1682 wrote:
>I am very disappointed in humanity.
You're letting this list represent humanity? (ROTFLMFAO!)
>Why is it that people are so willing to
>partake in stupid debates so heatedly
Because it's FUN! ;-) (Not that I've done it much lately, but still ...) ;-)
>but are so unwilling to
>help someone in need? A few days ago, I posted an email asking for help on a
>journalism article I have to write about DT. And you know what? Not one
>person wrote back.
This could be for a number of reasons. Some people don't have time; they
may have skimmed past your post (like I probably did), or not even read the
jam you posted it to. Or, it could be that no one really had anything to
offer. I did a paper on DT this past May, and was lucky enough to get at
least *some* assistance from someone (thanks again Paul Humm, btw I got an
A!). You shouldn't always take it personally when no one responds to your
post, unless your name is Arash. ;-)
>This is such a letdown, so I hope this mailing list
>modulater would cancel this subscription out of a little bit of pity, at
>least.
Come on now, do it yourself, it's not too difficult. When you subscribed,
you were sent an email with guidelines which INCLUDED how to unsubscribe.
Robert Jurado wrote:
>I was wondering if anyone out there knew if JP was still doing lessons
>for
>GW. He doesn't seem to have any new ones on GW online.
As far as I know, he's done 5 articles for his "Wild Stringdom" column this
year: Warming Up, pts. 1&2, and Practice Makes Perfect, pts. 1, 2, and (I
think) 3. GW Online has yet to update his column past PMP1. There was no
"Wild Stringdom" article in the last GW I read, however (I think it was
August). Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone.
Does anyone know if JP will be doing any clinics soon, or when he will be
doing his second instructional video? I know, I probably would've seen it
on UACM, but I just had to ask anyway, being the Petrucci fanatic that I
am. TiA.
Buh-bye now!
Brian
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:33:23 EDT
From: DragynLMC3@aol.com
To: CanvasDncr@aol.com, Chvybowtie@aol.com, WohlwendJ@aol.com, ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush in the Hall of Fame
Message-ID: <63ef6f3e.35fc0ff3@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-09-13 10:41:00 EDT, bredius@globalxs.nl writes:
This was in the UACM newsletter... just thought I should pass the word for
those who didnt know...
>
> The Rush Hall of Fame Inductee Campaign
>
> "A band is eligible for the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame 25
> years after the release of their first album. With Rush
> having been released in 1974, this is Rush's first year
> of eligibility. Bands are nominated by a committee, who
> looks at the artists' contributions to music. Since we all
> know that Rush is routinely overlooked by critics, we are
> responsible for letting the committee know how important
> Rush has been! But we have to hurry, we only have until
> the end of October!"
>
> More information can be found on :
>
> http://syrinx.yyz.com/HTML/rushhof.html
~Lisa
DragynLMC3@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/dragynlmc3/DragynsLair.html
The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time. -Bertrand Russell
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:38:26 -0300
From: "Karol!" <miroel@uol.com.br>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: 2001, Part II
Message-ID: <01bddf56$75561840$LocalHost@uol.com.br.uol.com.br>
4. Individual:The monkey had this insight all by himself. He was
the first one to use the bone as a weapon. Then, he showed it to
his 'friends' or they saw him using and started to use it too. So,
first it was an individual knowledge, then it became a knowledge
to all the group (and even to the enemies, I think, I don't
remember that scene very much). There are two kinds of intuition:
a)racional and b)sensitive or empiric intuition. This last one
relates to the states of the subject of the knowledge: sensations,
memories, feelings, perceptions... all of these are exclusivily
personal, so, when the monkey had the intuition, he was alone.
Only after this that the group became aware of it too.
5. The scene shows a monolite. The monkeys see it and they are
afraid and run. They start throwing things toward it, but then
they stop attacking, they come closer and their faces goes like
'???'. (Don't remember what happens next). This shows how people
react when they search for the truth of something (in this case,
when they want to know what is that monolite). Doubt and
confusion,
fear and admiration, all these sensations (etc.) make us "want to
know what we don't know,
make us want to leave the state of insecurity or enchantment, make
us take notice of our ignorance and bring the desire of overcoming
the uncertainty."
And here the part of the monkeys finishes. I saw the rest of the
film just once, and a long time ago, so, I didn't see it
carefully.
So, that's it.
Karol!
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:38:14 -0300
From: "Karol!" <miroel@uol.com.br>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: 2001, Part I
Message-ID: <01bddf56$6e4c0820$LocalHost@uol.com.br.uol.com.br>
Alan Estrada wrote:
>I guess the movie's message is that maybe
>it will be another big bang after that as it is other new
lifeforms after
>others die....
>it's all a cycle...uhm...I guess I said it all twice.....well,
any other
>interpretations?
I saw this film (the beggining, just the part of the monkeys)
during one of my philosophy
classes last year.
I didn't remember much of it, so I looked at my scribbles and this
was written there:
- internal problem
- external problem
- individual
- "insight"
But, with the help of my philosophy book I could remember/realize
that
the film shows the two types of rational activity, one of the two
types
of intuition, the two types of problem (when you're talking
about a group) and the reactions that one can have in trying to
find the truth.
1. Internal problem: when the group of monkeys is fighting against
each other (for food or something, don't remember)
2. External problem: when the group of monkeys fight against
another group of monkeys because of the lake.
3. Intuition: When a monkey sees a piece
of bone. First, it's something completely common for him (as that
are bones everywhere at that age). But then he looks at the bone,
the bone looks at him... and... PLIN! He realizes that he can use
the bone as a weapon!
Now, interpretation of this scene: There are two kinds of racional
activity: intuition and reasoning. Intuition: immediate form of
knowledge; Reasoning: reaches the concept of the object through
levels of knowledge, so it goes step by step and through several
acts of knowledge. So, this scene shows a case of intuition, since
the monkey had an immediate comprehension. "Psychologists relate
to intuition using the term 'insight', relating to the moment when
one has a total, direct and immediate comprehension of something,
or the moment when one realizes, at once, the way to the solution
of a scientific, philosophical or vital problem." So, the monkey
had a problem (within his group and with the other one) and
realized the solution (to use the bone as a weapon, so that he
could protect himself, attack the others and win) knowing the
object (bone) in a direct way.
I'll split this into two messages, so it won't seem it's so big...
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 16:43:04 -0600
From: "Eduardo Arcos B." <earcos@tsi.com.mx>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Dream Theater Font
Message-ID: <000001bddf67$df27e080$f09524c8@edu98>
Hi all YtseJamers, I have a project envolving Dream Theater and a web page,
and I was looking for the Dream Theater font (not flexure), if anyone can
send it or knows where I can get it, please email me privately.
Thank you :O)
C ya,
Eduardo Arcos B.
earcos@tsi.com.mx
edu@ecuatorianos.com
edu.portal: http://ecuatorianos.com/edu.portal
ICQ UIN: 2441685
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:12:37 +0200
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The latest news from Mike Portnoy
Message-ID: <01BDDF74.64948FA0@8.154.dialin.mxs.nl>
I've just added the latest news from Mike Portnoy
to "Under A Cyber Moon", which includes...
* Information about "5 Years in a LIVEtime" (video)
* Japanese release of "Once in a LIVEtime" (live 2CD)
* South American tour dates (no venues and cities yet)
...and some more interesting things. :)
Go check it out...
Mark Bredius
_______________________________________________________
Under A Cyber Moon - The Official Dream Theater Website
http://www.dreamtheater.net/ E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org
The Official H Website -- http://www.hogarth.com/steve/
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:00:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@umail.ucsb.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: WCW guy wearing a SAVATAGE shirt
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980913165739.13716A-100000@bergman.umail.ucsb.edu>
Cruising through the stations, I saw a wrestler from the WCW
wearing a SAVATAGE "Dead Winter Dead" shirt. It blew me away!
I don't know the wrestlers name, but he was in the ring with
a microphone ordering a guy around.
also, one of the guitar magazines, 'Under a glass moon ' was
named the 97th best solo of all time.
has the new HELLOWEEN been released in the US yet? what label
are they on now?
-- Conrad Chi uchic00@umail.ucsb.edu------------------------------
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:58:08 -0400 From: Nathan Rood <nrood@utkux.utcc.utk.edu> To: Screaming in Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: improv_isation in DT, DTC Message-ID: <35FC5C0F.BBE31379@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
Well,
Someone people have posted about lack of room for improvisation in a DT concert. As again not to start a flame war, but you have to understand that not all of us here on the Ytsejam come from the same facet of music. Some of us enjoy jam oriented improvisational music like Phish and Zappa. Here's what MP has to say about improv in DT, from his notes about OiaL on the official Electra site:
------------------------- And of course, what Progressive live album would complete without the obligatory self-indulgent solo spots!!!! The arrangements to the songs are almost never the same as the album versions. Some songs are extended and have improvised jams thrown in, some songs are shortened and have been combined to create medleys, some songs have bits & pieces of cover tunes thrown in......It's this variety and these embellishments that I think make our live show -------------------------
Again, not trying to flame, just defending myself. My point is that there's room for _some_ improv in DT. That's what I like about the band, the variety. If a band does all soft, whiny songs that's incredibly boring to me, and the same goes for a band that's all heavy songs in E pentatonic. How dull. DT is such a great band because they mix it up so well, you've got soft stuff like Hollow Years to heavy tunes like Puppies on Acid; and you've got some fixed arrangements exactly like the album versions with some improvisational jams.
np: Pat Metheny, _Quartet_. -Nate -- Nathan Rood / handle: Horizen mailto:nrood@utk.edu \ ICQ: 6170743 +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ There are two ways to get through life easily; to believe everything, or to believe nothing. Both release the mind from thinking. Earl Hindman
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:15:17 EDT From: Stixntrixx@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RAIN CHEQUE PRE-ORDERING Message-ID: <4b1f4d94.35fc6015@aol.com>
Hey everybody. It's the one and only "glam rock" loving Richie Rivera here, writing to you from my new e-mail address. Boston's pretty cool so far, in case you were wondering. Anyway, the real reason for the this message (aside from a general "what's up?") is to announce that my band, Vermont's very own RAIN CHEQUE, has finally finished up our album. Yes, it's been a long, hard process, as I'm sure many on this list have experienced themselves at some point. The CD, called "Beauty Before Change," is now available for pre- ordering. The released date is October 1st, God willing :) It can be ordered through our website at http://www.uvm.edu/~cfrederi/index.htm, where you can also hear sound clips (real audio only). The page is still in its preliminary stages, so it's pretty bare bones so far. We'll soon have both photos and lyrics available for your inspection, hopefully by the end of the week. But again, PRE-ORDERING IS NOW OPEN! The price is $8, plus $1 shipping and handling. Just so you don't go in with the wrong idea, we are not a progressive metal band, though a couple of our songs do lean in that direction. Basically, we play technically demanding, guitar-driven pop with female vocals. Picture DT, Warrant, and The Cranberries all getting into a head-on collision. We're the result. Check it out.
Richie
P.S. As for DT content, umm......three of the songs appearing on the album (the most DT sounding ones) were co-written with one Chris "D-Man" Merlo from the old Nine Miles days, who used to maintain the DT FAQ. That's the best I can do.
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:52:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: WCW guy wearing a SAVATAGE shirt Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980913194915.10919A-100000@ux8.cso.uiuc.edu>
On Sun, 13 Sep 1998, Conrad Chi wrote: > Cruising through the stations, I saw a wrestler from the WCW > wearing a SAVATAGE "Dead Winter Dead" shirt. It blew me away! > I don't know the wrestlers name, but he was in the ring with > a microphone ordering a guy around.
I don't watch WCW myself, but my brother did a few times a few weeks back and a guy was wearing a Nevermore t-shirt with their first album cover on the front. His name was the Raven so it kind of fit ("Quoth the Raven, 'Nevermore'"). But he was ordering guys around too, so he's probably the same guy. Maybe this guy is a big metalhead!
Robert Taylor rctaylor@uiuc.edu http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~rctaylor
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:54:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "J.T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Heavy Metal Message-ID: <19980914015452.9129.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com>
Can anyone on this list suggest some groups similar to DT but heavier? Kind of like the songs 'the mirror', 'lies' 'erotomania' , 'pmu' and the begining of 'uagm'. I like all of the heavy stuff but would like to open up to other similar bands to broaden my own guitar playing.
Thanks!
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 98 22:21:09 EDT From: Purgatori <ladyjane@eden.rutgers.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: News from AntiMaxim OnLine Message-ID: <CMM-RU.1.5.905739669.ladyjane@er5.rutgers.edu>
Hi everyone... This is just a note asking you to check out our website dedicated to all kinds of underrated music. Since this IS a DT list, it'll be most appropriate to note that we have an interview with Derek Sherinian on our site, and there's more stuff coming (like a one-on-one interview with Johnny Lee Middleton of Savatage).
Right now, we're asking you to send in questions for Johnny as the interview is scheduled for the end of the month. We're giving it about a week to compile a list. Send them to antimaxim@groovy.gravy.net and check out the site at http://www.gravy.net/~antimaxim
Thanks a lot!!!
AM admin: Sue "LadyJanie" Kim
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:19:12 +0500 (GMT) From: Oscar Garcia Verastegui <trashboy@amauta.rcp.net.pe> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dream Theater in southamerica Message-ID: <m0zIGjw-0013R6C@amauta.rcp.net.pe>
Hi:
Also on the bill is Slayer, Megadeth, Manowar, Savatage & several others. It also looks likely we will be playing 3 shows as a special guest to Megadeth on October 1st, 3rd & 4th.
This was the message posted by Mike on the official page...well the 3 'Deth dates with DT as special guest is for Buenos Aires, Argentina at Parque Sarmiento....a venue for 7000 people. Regards, Oscar
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:26:50 +0500 (GMT) From: Oscar Garcia Verastegui <trashboy@amauta.rcp.net.pe> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dream Theater in southamerica Message-ID: <m0zIGrK-0013NkC@amauta.rcp.net.pe>
Hi: Is confirmed...Dream Theater openning the Megadeth shows in Buenos Aires.
MEGADETH 1 de Octubre - Parque Sarmiento. Entradas en venta con descuento a Ticketmaster al 321-9700, en Dexter Shops y en el Teatro Opera, (en =E9ste ultimo no se cobra service charge). Grupos invitados: LETHAL, TREPADOR y DREAM THEATER. Precio Unico: $ 22
=20 Regards, Oscar
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:45:34 -0500 From: "Robert Newcomb" <newcombr@netdot.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: sharing Message-ID: <199809140558.WAA26294@odin.ax.com>
I know that most of you probably have or should have the Liquid Tension Experiment cd but if you don't there are two at the Hastings near by me. If anyone could get me some Angra or Symphony-X I could get you a copy. I know some of you still cant find/wont order the damn thing. Please email privately.
Thorin
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:27:52 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@moil.com.mk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Pulp Fiction Message-ID: <35FCE198.56A110C7@moil.com.mk>
NDTC onviously!
This is a kind of movie, when you watch over and over again you always notice something different, something new that you didn't before. I guess that makes it a prog. movie, a? ;-)
1) In the scene when John Travolta and Samuel Jackson enter the room with the punks who stealed that misterious suitcase. When Travolta finds it and opens it, the password (lock) number of the suitcase is 666! :) Anybody noticed it? Any idea what can it mean? Does anything in this movie means anyhting? :)
2) Also when Bruce Willis drives with the cab running away after the fight, the background is ... weird!. Ya know, usually when there's scene in a car driving, the background is always a street screne moving which is supposed to make the illusion that it really is recorded like that. Well here Taranatino does the same BUT, the background is BLACK-WHITE!!?!? No colors. ???
Dushko =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "If you ARE a character, it doesn't mean that you HAVE a character"
Mr. Wolf, "Pulp Fiction" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:03:38 +0100 From: NGA <nga@software-ag.de> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Last albums/reviews Message-ID: <01BDDFE8.79503BF0@pcnga.software-ag.de>
Hi all
the suggestions as to which albums people would like to hear prior to going to meet Old Smokey are interesting - keep them coming.
Warning: I went on a spending spree at the weekend, and you can expect reviews of the following albums very soon:
ANGRA - Fireworks DAEMONARCH - Hermeticum ELECTRIC WIZARD - Supercoven HIM - Greatest Lovesongs Vol. 666 SUPERIOR - Younique
Fed up of hearing about Clinton/Lewinsky and the cigar? Try this address for a different view of things:
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: ELECTRIC WIZARD - Supercoven (just playing this album gets you stoned!)
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