YTSEJAM Digest 4286

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    Today's Topics:

      1) CW/Exorcist
     by NikBrooks@aol.com
      2) SAVATAGE (acoustic show in NY - 09/19/98)!!!!!!
     by "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
      3) Platypus release dates
     by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
      4) Freely skip this one! :)
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
      5) CD-R standard media / Superior
     by "Neil Evans" <progmtl@pacbell.net>
      6) I need help with Rudess/DT mp3 please
     by ShadowBor@aol.com
      7) "I need help loading Rudess/DT mp3" Pt.2
     by ShadowBor@aol.com
      8) Platypus in the UK/DTIFC birthday card
     by "Charlie Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com>
      9) Re: Platypus/Angra/LTE
     by NikBrooks@aol.com
     10) Vai's "Flex-able"
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
     11) Re: Platypus release dates
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
     12) More hardware stuff
     by Chris Steidel <steidelc@musashi.gsgis.K12.VA.US>
     13) Re: APSOG's restored
     by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
     14) Killing in the name of!
     by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
     15) Damons Brain
     by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
     16) Rudess MP3
     by JE78674@ltu.edu
     17) Keyboards/Schmeboards
     by NikBrooks@aol.com
     18) More Press
     by NikBrooks@aol.com
     19) Savatage etc.
     by Uroborosss@aol.com
     20) Re: Vai's "Flex-able"
     by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>

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    Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:04:51 EDT
    From: NikBrooks@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: CW/Exorcist
    Message-ID: <dd09bd3b.360543c3@aol.com>

    For whomsoever is interested, both films A Clockwork Orange and The Exorcist
    are banned in their original form in the UK.

    N

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    Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:41:54 -0400
    From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
    To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: SAVATAGE (acoustic show in NY - 09/19/98)!!!!!!
    Message-ID: <36054C72.3F340532@earthlink.net>

    Hail people...

    I've just seen one of the most amazing and meaningful concert
    experiences of my life. I just saw SAVATAGE play their 1st EVER
    acoustic show in the US!! Words cannot describe how deep their music
    touches me...only a handful of bands can do that. To see them in a
    little hole-in-the-wall bar that fits 75 people is just awesome
    considering that a month earlier I saw them in front of 20,000 people at
    Wacken :)

    The stage was so small it was ridiculous (probably about 10 feet by 30
    feet) but it wasnt that bad cuz they all sat on benches. Chris was
    totally acoustic while Al played clean without distortion. I found out
    that it was also being broadcast LIVE on the radio!?!?
    ARGGHHHHHHH....nobody told me earlier :(((( But..I did see that the
    band was videotaping it..so hopefully it will pop up in the trading
    circles soon.

    Here's the setlist:

    The Ocean (intro)
    Welcome
    Jesus Saves (sounded amazing w/ a different structure!)
    Chance <-- with the harmonies of course!!!
    Silk And Steel (Al and Chris shredding it up)
    Stare Into The Sun
    Not What You See

      --Now this next part literally had me soaring. The rest of the band
    left the stage leaving Jon alone with his piano. Just amazing.....

    **Jon's Piano Medley**
    Mentally Yours (intro only)
    Tonight He Grins Again
    A Little Too Far
    New York City Don't Mean Nothing
    If I Go Away
    Heal My Soul
    .and of course....Believe (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

    Handful Of Rain
    Sleep (Jon and Zak trading off vocals)

    **ENCORE** (This part they did electric!)

    Al's guitar solo (it was part of WoM I believe)
    The Wake of Magellan (this song just f*ckin' rules!!!!!!!!)
    Nothing Going On

    ** 2nd Encore
    Dead Winter Dead

    As you can see no "Mountain King" :(..but all the "Streets" material
    more than made up for it! One thing I love about this band is that they
    truly look like they are having FUN on stage. Laughing, smiling
    (despite the horrible conditions) and making fun of each other....it was
    refreshing to see that. Also got an awesome picture of me and the
    Mountain King himself....Jon Oliva! (hopefully the roadie didnt chop
    our heads off like some other ppl I know >:) Jon was very surprised
    when I told him I'd seen them a month earlier at the Wacken festival in
    Germany.

    anyway...the show ruled and I feel like kicking myself at not seeing
    them every chance I get (they play in NY quite often).

    Still the orchestra plays.... (ALL HAIL CRISS OLIVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

    cheers,
       Carlo (Fates)

    NP: ANATHEMA "Pentecost III"

    -- 
                                                             
                                                            
    "When you know that your time is close at hand        
      maybe then you'll begin to understand               
       Life down here is just a strange illusion."        
                                                          
    

    --IRON MAIDEN (Hallowed Be Thy Name)

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    Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 19:56:35 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Platypus release dates Message-ID: <01BDE4DF.078C0A20@211.154.dialin.mxs.nl>

    Nikki Brooks wrote :

    > I have the promo CD of Platypus. I think it already has a release > here in Europe but is very hard to get hold of in the UK. Dunno > about USA release dates.

    The German release date was August 17th with a Dutch release the following week. I have no idea about the rest of Europe.

    According to Derek, the Platypus CD will be out on Velvel in the US in January 1999. I've asked someone at Velvel to keep me posted... Details on UACM as soon as they're available...

    NP: Marill10n - Radiat10n

    Mark Bredius _______________________________________________________ Under A Cyber Moon - The Official Dream Theater Website http://www.dreamtheater.net/ E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org The Official H Website -- http://www.hogarth.com/steve/

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    Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:56:56 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Freely skip this one! :) Message-ID: <36055E08.7E37AC8E@mol.com.mk>

    > From: Simon Wilkins <s.wilkins@rocketmail.com> > > (deep voice) Stay tuned for more revelations... > Will there be a discussion about DT soon?

    Nah, who needs it! This is such a cute list the way it is. :)

    > Will anyone else ask if the Rotterdam show is the one the > live album is from?

    Whow, WAIT A MINUTE, DT is doing a live album? No way! Sorry if this has been discussed earlier but I was absent for few years and .....

    > Does anyone want a copy of the first 23 mins of the Ronnie Scotts show > 31.1.95 on Video before the cameraman got caught? (PAL only) > ps > How do you know a drummer is at the door? > The knocking speeds up

    Does this counts for Mike too? I mean, c'mon he's kinda slow isn't he? I bet Larry Jr. Mullen can replace him better than any other!

    > How do you know a vocalist is at the door? > He doesnt know when to come in

    I don't get this! :) > How do you know a keyboard player is at the door? > Who cares!

    Right! Inspired from the music company man who turned down Beatles: "Keyboard music is history, it's out of fashion! "

    Tuba is coming back on the front door!

    > Cheers, Simon

    Cheers back, Dushko (who changed his nickname in CyberDuke after watching "The Net") :-))))) COOOL!

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    Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 13:07:32 -0700 From: "Neil Evans" <progmtl@pacbell.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: CD-R standard media / Superior Message-ID: <000b01bde4d2$4e4ee3e0$db07aace@default>

    For those of you who trade CD-R media, is there a trading standard when it comes to the brand and type of media? Incidentally, if you're interested in trading I'll be up and running shortly, so drop me a private email or wait until I put a list together on the web for your convenience..

    In other news, the new Superior album is fantastic; a very strong, evolved second effort that retains enough of the "Behind" sound to sate fans of the first album while exploring plenty of new ground. Bravo! In addition, while I am not an expert in this area, the production quality is excellent; the CD just sounds great. Highly recommended.

    -Neil.

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    Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 16:36:17 EDT From: ShadowBor@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I need help with Rudess/DT mp3 please Message-ID: <76a45959.36056741@aol.com>

    Every time I go and try to download the Jordan with DT mp3 at ftp://iq.rulez.org/incoming, it gives me an error message saying "the attempt to load Time.mp3 failed.". But that's all it tells me. Granted, I still have yet to download Winamp or whatever, but this thing obviously won't even START downloading. Can anyone trouble shoot me?

    Thanks, Rob

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    Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 16:53:39 EDT From: ShadowBor@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: "I need help loading Rudess/DT mp3" Pt.2 Message-ID: <53374061.36056b53@aol.com>

    Hey, please disreguard my first message, as it turns out I don't have the drive space to download Winamp anyway. Sorry to waste jam space - I should've checked before I posted.

    Rob

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    Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:54:03 -0000 From: "Charlie Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com> To: <NikBrooks@aol.com> Cc: "Ytsejam list" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Platypus in the UK/DTIFC birthday card Message-ID: <0b8563856201498UPIMSSMTPUSR06@email.msn.com>

    > Jammers > >I have the promo CD of Platypus. I think it already has a release here in >Europe but is very hard to get hold of in the UK. Dunno about USA release >dates.

    Well HMV in Manchester and Oxford Street have shedloads of the Platypus disk - and even a few Chroma Key! Still no Angra though :-((

    Ashley,

    I got one of those cards and badges too -it was my birthday on Friday.

    Charlie

    Work: http://www.servemode.co.uk/ email: charlie@servemode.co.uk

    URL: http://www.servemode.co.uk/Charlie

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    Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 17:18:19 EDT From: NikBrooks@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Platypus/Angra/LTE Message-ID: <d903e27.3605711b@aol.com>

    In a message dated 9/20/98 9:56:42PM, you write:

    > >Well HMV in Manchester and Oxford Street have shedloads of the Platypus >disk - and even a few Chroma Key! Still no Angra though :-((

    Excellent, that should sell a few copies, but do they have LTE?

    BTW the UK release date for Angra's Fireworks was "set for" 7 September according to the press blurb I received. Haven't had an update on that but I'll make enquiries.

    N

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    Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:33:26 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Vai's "Flex-able" Message-ID: <360574A6.604C79E6@mol.com.mk>

    Hi!

    I know about the album "Flex-able" and I know about different releases of "Flex-able Leftovers"! But I wanna know is there a release including both, THE album plus the lefovers??? Exact title of this release (probabl;y Felx-Abel" but anyway :), record company, anything? Private e-mail will do fine! Thanks!

    Dushko

    NP: Mr. Big - Addicted to that rush

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    Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 17:01:37 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Platypus release dates Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980920170050.22926A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>

    On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, Mark Bredius wrote:

    > NP: Marill10n - Radiat10n

    Why did you write Marillion that way more than once? Of course, it can't be a typo to be consistently written like that.

    I'm very curious.

    []s, Roger...

    -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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    Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:41:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Steidel <steidelc@musashi.gsgis.K12.VA.US> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: More hardware stuff Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980920183715.19771A-100000@musashi>

    Hi again! I have yet another question for all of you tech/gear heads out there. I'm going to be replacing the bridge pickup in my Ibanez RG550 (stock Ibanez, *blech*) and am asking for reccomendations for a high output humbucker. I'm talking about something to give my mesa a hand with increasing how heavy the distortion is. Any of you people out there who would be in the know, I'd really appreciate it. -Chris

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    Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 00:37:04 +0200 From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: APSOG's restored Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980920223704.006a4c3c@unet.univie.ac.at>

    a jammer posted: <<Much more mature than your typical prog bands and the songwriting is cohesive and powerful.>>

    i 'm sorry but stretching a simple (and BTW really stupid) melody to an amazing length of almost an hour is really something. Had to get rid of that. APSOG is where the music stops and where Jim M. is completely gone stupid. So much of that album is filler. three tracks worth listening, the rest?? whats that? wheres the metal in it? wasnt FW a metal band- they were. Awaken the Guardian ranges in my fave ten alltime albums. so dont even think about flaming me -this here just represents my opinion (BTW im getting bored of telling this every time when i post, seems like its time to leave here...) and ive listened to APSOG for about 30 times every time the complete thing, but it is just disappointing. and if i ever get the chance to talk to Jim ill ask him who the f*** sh*t in his brain. i understand (since i am musician as well) that you can get bored playing the same old songs over and over again. but some of his interviews just made me cry. i couldnt believe it s the same human being once giving us masterpieces like Epitaph. huhuhuhhuuuuu! :-(......... Parallels has ingenious songwriting, not APSOG, IMO. they ve come to a point where its totally senseless what they are doing and i wonder if Jim ever listens to APSOG at home. but maybe there will come the day when he gets bored of playing APSOG as well and we get real music again from the (better, which means fifteen years earlier) world's (almost) leading Prog Metal band.

    wooooaaaaah i feel so much better. and i love telling this here, cos evryone skips my posts, hehehe. thanks for those reading, i dont care bout your opinions. (isnt this list such a better place since all have gone nuts here? 8-)

    ..just working on my number of posts....

    Dryheat (...in Houston they say that?)

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    Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:38:24 -0400 From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Killing in the name of! Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980920183824.0077f710@pop.wam.umd.edu>

    >Firearms have not changed much over the last 50 years, >people have. If people wish to kill each other, they will with or without firearms.

    This is very true. Actual real story here, no DTC of course:

    Rising Sun, Maryland, where the KKK is in the phone book, there's a junker on every yard, and a girl named Lurleen in every house. A few months ago. A trailer park. Two rival groups, we'll use the word "clans" without the conehead connotations here, for reasons undisclosed went to war with each other. Half the trailerpark went at the other half armed with assorted garden tools. You know, the sort of thing with which peasants attacked Frankenstein's castle. But this wasn't some simple dispute about reincarnating the dead, it was an all out medieval bloodbath. Tons of people were injured, many of them seriously. And here's the kicker. One guy was beheaded...with a SHOVEL!! No kidding.

    And to think this happened not more than an hour from my house...

    We now return you to your regularly scheduled bickering.

    Brian "The Bloodthirsty Bumpkin" Henderson

    =================================== Name: W. Brian Henderson, Esq. Contact: hender@wam.umd.edu ROBOT-CENTRAL: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/ His Faithful Bootleg Page: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/Musik/Boot/ ===================================

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    Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 00:45:47 +0200 From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Damons Brain Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980920224547.006cad74@unet.univie.ac.at>

    Damon : <<My God, I think my head is going to explode and my brain fragments will wallpaper my room.>>

    hell, save parts of it for me, got a test on the brain in two months for my anatomy rigorosum. thanks

    Dr.heat (...in Houston they say that)

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    Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:41:03 -0400 (EDT) From: JE78674@ltu.edu To: YTSEJAM@ax.com Subject: Rudess MP3 Message-ID: <01J21FML86R68WWLMB@LTU.EDU>

    I seem to have missed that post, can someone please e-mail me the URL to download it.

    Thanks,

    Jeff E.

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    Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:44:08 EDT From: NikBrooks@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Keyboards/Schmeboards Message-ID: <5f24028d.36058538@aol.com>

    Q: Why is a grand piano better than a keyboard?

    A: Because it makes THAT much more noise when you throw it from the hotel balcony.

    Thank you Leicester!!!!!!

    N

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    Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:44:07 EDT From: NikBrooks@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: More Press Message-ID: <4abd1e0d.36058537@aol.com>

    In a message dated 9/20/98 10:36:18PM, you write:

    >> copy. Hmmmm..... maybe this could be a NYTimes Hardcover best-seller >> (hint, hint). So, I guess someone should get to work and print one >> FAST so the newcomers know the 'taboo' topics. > >

    Well folks, Johnny P did write the lyrics "Seen my diary on the newsstand" into Voices (Awake) so maybe one day ....

    N

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    Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 19:18:43 EDT From: Uroborosss@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Savatage etc. Message-ID: <84732298.36058d53@aol.com>

    I must go re-subscribe to this list in order to legitimately tell you all about Savatage live at Jaxx. How could I have been oblivious to the Savatage Tsunami of Sound for all these years? Wish me luck...

    Bafu Vai

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    Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 19:34:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Vai's "Flex-able" Message-ID: <199809202334.TAA29134@optical.mindstorm.com>

    A thousand monkeys in CyberDuke's basement typed:

    > But I wanna know is there a release including both, THE album plus the > lefovers??? Exact title of this release (probabl;y Felx-Abel" but anyway > :), record company, anything? Private e-mail will do fine! > Thanks!

    Yes. I have one. The cover of the CD says, in big letters at the top, "Steve Vai's Flexable", and at the bottom says, "Contains 4 bonus tracks from 'Flex-Able Leftovers.'" The info on the back is as follows: "(p)(c)1984 & 1988 Akashic Records, a Division of Light Without Heat, P.O. Box 69394, L.A., Ca. 90069. Manufactured & Distributed by Important Record Distributors, Inc." And, of course, "Made in the U.S.A." The UPC number on the back is 88561-0777-2, and the catalog number on the spine is UR777-2.

    And, just to satisfy your curiosity, the track listing is as follows: FLEX (side 1): Little Green Men, Viv Woman, Lovers Are Crazy, Salamanders in the Sun, The Boy/Girl Song. ABLE (side 2): The Attitude Song, Call It Sleep, Junkie, Bill's Private Parts, Next Stop Earth, There's Something Dead In Here. LEFTOVERS (bonus tracks): So Happy, Bledsoe Bluvd, Burnin' Down The Mountain, Chronic Insomnia.

    And no, I don't remember where I got it from. Sorry. -d

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough d-man@dreamt.org "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates cmerlo@mindstorm.com /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.dreamt.org/d-man \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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