YTSEJAM Digest 4291
Today's Topics:
1) Help me
by "Christopher Stearns" <cjstearns@feist.com>
2) Reb WHO?
by Uroborosss@aol.com
3) Strong PROGress on This Thursday (prog music netcast).
by Ryan Good <rtgood@students.wisc.edu>
4) Jordan Rudess MP3
by Richard Karsmakers <karies@wxs.nl>
5) Savatage and WCW's Raven
by YtseJim <YtseJim@DreamT.org>
6) Microsoft - Bananas - Labrie & KorgX3
by AL <al@isd.net>
7) Jaxx
by "Jason Birzer" <Longshot@pressroom.com>
8) Take The Time MP3
by Bungle <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu>
9) Re: Not Vai...DT
by Ibanez506@aol.com
10) The "For the Love of God" confusion
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
11) marill10n/simpsons
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
12) Searching For: Tim Lodge
by seasend@ix.netcom.com (Stephen Glowacki)
13) Simpsons and yellow MP
by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
14) RE: The WCW Guy wearing the Savatage T-Shirt
by "Dave Boland" <hellstorm@hotmail.com>
15) Just if anyone's interested......
by "Elydian" <elydian@netcomuk.co.uk>
16) HYDRA - Rock Experience
by "=?iso-8859-1?q?R=D6NNQVIST,?= GREGER" <GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE>
17) MANIGANCE - Signe De Vie
by "=?iso-8859-1?q?R=D6NNQVIST,?= GREGER" <GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE>
18) regarding EMG's
by Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
19) a lot of fuzz
by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:51:04 -0700
From: "Christopher Stearns" <cjstearns@feist.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Help me
Message-ID: <199809220444.XAA29058@wichita.fn.net>
Ok I'm really new at this computer/internet thing. I'm just wondering and
I feel really stupid asking this. What is MP3? I hear it mentioned all
the time on the jam, but I havn't a clue what it is. I've been stuck in a
shell too long with only my bass.
Thanks for Your Support
CJBass
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 01:15:04 EDT
From: Uroborosss@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Reb WHO?
Message-ID: <850247b5.36073258@aol.com>
> From: Inflammabl@aol.com
> Subject: 80's metal. I love it.
>
> George Lynch is out of Dokken and has been replaced by Reb Beach (ex-
> Winger, Alice Cooper),
?!?!?! Does this mean that if Dokken is scheduled to play a live show
somewhere, and the band actually appears on a stage, REB BEACH will be playing
a guitar on that stage simultaneously with the rest of the band and their
respective instruments? My bet is that if an Ibanez Voyager makes any
appearances at all, it'll be a plain wood finish instead of the hot blues or
purples of the Winger days...
Bafu Vai
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:44:59 -0500
From: Ryan Good <rtgood@students.wisc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Strong PROGress on This Thursday (prog music netcast).
Message-ID: <199809220543.AAA21994@mail1.doit.wisc.edu>
Hey all.
Whoever is available on Thursday between noon and 2pm, turn on your web
browser and go to http://wsum.wisc.edu and check out Strong PROGress, a
show on WSUM - madison student radio which features prog metal, prog rock,
loud rock, black metal, et al.
Send requests to:
wsumlive@macc.wisc.edu
or call in at
608-265-wsum
Thanks, and please feel free to respond. Interaction is necessary to
having a good show.
Ryan Good
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 07:42:55 +0200
From: Richard Karsmakers <karies@wxs.nl>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Jordan Rudess MP3
Message-ID: <360738DF.2674@wxs.nl>
You guys must be getting tired....I tried to get the JR MP3 at
http://iq.rules.org/incoming. I thought that was were it was put. No
show. I then tried ftp://iq.rules.org/incoming and even
http://www.iq.rules.org/incoming. No show.
What, please, is the correct URL?
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 01:56:20 -0400 From: YtseJim <YtseJim@DreamT.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Savatage and WCW's Raven Message-ID: <36073C04.DF71897E@DreamT.org>
>> Cruising through the stations, I saw a wrestler from the WCW >> wearing a SAVATAGE "Dead Winter Dead" shirt. It blew me away! >> I don't know the wrestlers name, but he was in the ring with a >> microphone ordering a guy around.
> I don't watch WCW myself, but my brother did a few times a > Maybe this guy is a big > metalhead!
The wrestlers name is indeed Raven and he wore his Dead Winter Dead shirt AGAIN on WCW Nitro this week.... Jon Oliva said he is good friends with Kevin Nash and Scott Hall, while Chris Caffrey is good friends with Raven.
~YtseJim
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 01:36:08 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Microsoft - Bananas - Labrie & KorgX3 Message-ID: <36074558.45AA5FFD@isd.net>
Korg:
I expected better than that from you. (Microsoft, Bananas & Labrie) That sounded more like the lyrics from a White Zombie song.
The Ytse-Progtologist wrote: >>>Yo Korgstein: Do you think we all sleep with Webster?
(from the depths of his shorts) Korg wrote: >The thought has crossed my mind on occasion, but Emanuel Lewis would have to >be a pretty busy little boy, though, and I'm sure you'd all have a tough >time fighting Michael Jackson for a night with him.
Just how many times have you been struck by lightning?
PS. As I'm sure you know, that was not the Webster I was referring to.
-- AL... The Ytse-Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ St. Mary's home for the occasionally coherent is sponsoring a staring contest --George Carlin
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 02:35:37 -0400 From: "Jason Birzer" <Longshot@pressroom.com> To: "The Jam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Jaxx Message-ID: <199809220637.XAA01219@odin.ax.com>
>Jason B., >where the hell did you dissappear to?? Shame you couldn't be there for the (now) >traditional meal(or milkshake) at Denny's. Maybe next time.
Didnt know that was a tradition. Sorry, but I was moved to the other side of the stage.... Did say bye to Mike before I took off... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason Birzer "One likes to believe in the freedom of music "The Longshot" but glittering prizes and endless compromises ICQ#13068879 shatter the illusion of integrity." longshot@pressroom.com Rush - The Spirit Of Radio --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:27:27 +0200 From: Bungle <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Take The Time MP3 Message-ID: <3607899F.707AA8FC@speed.eik.bme.hu>
It's still on ftp://iq.rulez.org/incoming where I uploaded and it will be soon on http://falcon.sch.bme.hu/dt (just click on the "and" between Images and Words and then on the "rare". If it's still not there fuck the webmaster not me :)).
I would also mention that on the weekend our mail server didn't work (I missed some jams, too) and if someone e-mailed me, please do it again!
Cheers, Bungle
> Ok I've heard enough. Could someone PLEEEEEEASE mail this to me. I tried to > download it but obviously was wrong. As it started to download it went to > another page with a bunch of jargon. I don't know if this is an error with my > computer or the site. But please FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I NEED THIS MP3!!! > > Thank you in advance, > Juli
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:16:46 EDT From: Ibanez506@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Not Vai...DT Message-ID: <27e436b2.3607a33e@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-09-22 00:33:37 EDT, you write:
<< But please FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I NEED THIS MP3!!! Sorry, but the MP3 in question isn't by Steve Vai. Hmmm I don't think I said Vai.
:-)) It's a Dream Theater MP3 called "Take the Time", not the one you mentioned above. :-)) >>
Sorry for the confusion, I was just using the saying. I am looking for the TTT MP3. Now that thats cleared up can someone please mail this to me?? Thank you, Juli
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:46:55 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The "For the Love of God" confusion Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980922104201.5751A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 Ibanez506@aol.com wrote:
> But please FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I NEED THIS MP3!!! > Sorry for the confusion, I was just using the saying. I am looking for > the TTT MP3. Now that thats cleared up can someone please mail this to > me??
Well, if that wasn't clear, I knew that you were talking about the "Take the Time" MP3. It was really obvious, but hey, mailing lists shouldn't be only about serious stuff (if we can call music a serious thing :-) ).
Also, the puctuation wasn't right for the intepretation I gave (if there was a comma between "God" and "I", then that would be a completely different story).
[]s, Roger...
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:49:04 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: marill10n/simpsons Message-ID: <01BDE651.4D68DFA0@149.153.dialin.mxs.nl>
Alex Smith wrote :
> Well, someone over in Marillion PR land decided that it would be > cool to pull off a "computer-era" publicity stunt and spell > Marillion Marill10n to look high tech, I guess.
Nope, they're celebrating their tenth studio album.
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Dave Ware wrote :
> there must be at least one artist on this list - how about someone > knock up a couple of "Simpson style" drawings of DT - imagine a > yellow MP.
Believe it or not, but that's exactly what I tried to do last month as a joke for UACM... So far, the only one I've managed to succesfully turn into a "Simpson" has been Derek. :-)
Mark Bredius _______________________________________________________ Under A Cyber Moon - The Official Dream Theater Website http://www.dreamtheater.net/ E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org The Official H website -- http://www.hogarth.com/steve/
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:12:25 -0500 (CDT) From: seasend@ix.netcom.com (Stephen Glowacki) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Searching For: Tim Lodge Message-ID: <199809221612.LAA08297@dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com>
Hi 'Jam,
Sorry to take this public, but Tim Lodge is MIA. Anybody know his new email? Yo, Tim :-0
Thanks friends, Steve...
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:33:06 +0200 From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Simpsons and yellow MP Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980922163306.006a74ac@unet.univie.ac.at>
hey again! anyone noticed that the yellow MP would look like Bart? Just consider the new hair cut (sorry Mike...just kiddin) ;-)
Dryheat (...in Houston they say that?)
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:52:14 PDT From: "Dave Boland" <hellstorm@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RE: The WCW Guy wearing the Savatage T-Shirt Message-ID: <19980922165214.12715.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hi, the WCW guy wearing the Savatage t-shirt is known as Raven. in fact, last night (9/21), he wore a Dead Winter Dead shirt. interesting wrestler, used to have this mind control thing over a group of wrestlers known as his "Flock". he lost it. kind of twisted guy, likes pain (will smile in submission holds, and pass out from the pain before giving up). he's also been known to wear Sandman (the DC Character created by Neil Gaiman, an EXCELLENT read!) t-shirts.
thanks, me
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:20:07 +0100 From: "Elydian" <elydian@netcomuk.co.uk> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Just if anyone's interested...... Message-ID: <01bde64d$3ed8ae60$0100007f@elydian>
In a few days time I'll be temporarily unsubscribing from The Jam because I'm going to university, so it'll probably take me a couple of weeks to get my e-mail sorted out up there. If anyone wants to get hold of me, the e-mail address in my sig will still work, but I may not pick up my e-mail for a week or so. I may have to reply to anything using my Hotmail account, but I can still pick up e-mail aimed at the address below, just not send out from it until I've got it set up properly.
So I'll see you(r posts) in a couple of weeks time (hopefully). I'll still be subscribed until Saturday anyway.
======================================================= In a world which your mind controls, belief is reality. -- E-Mail: elydian@netcomuk.co.uk -- ICQ UIN: 1491970 -- Web Pages: http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~elydian/ =======================================================
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:58 +0200 From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?R=D6NNQVIST,?= GREGER" <GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: HYDRA - Rock Experience Message-ID: <199809221758.17fa@memo-smtp.sto.sema.se>
--- Inkommet fr=E5n INFODATA.SVA0193 +46(0)670-16060 98-09-22 19.58
-> ytsejam(a)ax.com
HYDRA - Rock Experience FRANCE Rating: * * * * 1997 BRENNUS BR 8026.AR Playing time: 45:07
H=FFdra are: Chris Martzolf: Lead Vocals Pascal Lemoine: Guitars Jeace Rat-Patron: Keyboards Nicolas Sanson: Bass Francois Guinault: Drums
H=FFdra is a French band that has been around since 1994, but this is their debut CD. The members of the band are from The Alpes. They are playing a melodic Progressive Metal I think would attract lovers of Dream Theater. I think that tracks like "Cross Section" would appeal to many Dream Theater fans. Other influences are early Bon Jovi, Magnum, Rush, Saga and Vow Wow.
All musicians have qualifications from French high schools of Music (CMCN, Conservatories) and they are really good. The music is going through many changing atmospheres and complex harmonies with many surprises and qualities. Unfortunately the singer has got a rather obvious French accent on some tracks. Maybe they had better singed in their native language French. But that doesn't bother me that much.
My favourite track is "Silently" that has got a guest appearance by Fabienne Champey on lead vocals. Other highlights are "Heaven knows" and "Remembrance of a Day past" together with the aforementioned "Cross Section".
This is the only French progressive rock band I've heard that could compete with progressive rock bands from the rest of the world.
Available from Brennus records: Alain Ricard / 5 rue de Lixy / 89140 Villethierry - France / tel / Fax: 33 3 86 66 51 41 & Web site: http://www.id-net.fr/musea
-Reviewed by Greger Ronnqvist-
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:00 +0200 From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?R=D6NNQVIST,?= GREGER" <GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: MANIGANCE - Signe De Vie Message-ID: <199809221800.gEFm@memo-smtp.sto.sema.se>
--- Inkommet fr=E5n INFODATA.SVA0193 +46(0)670-16060 98-09-22 20.00
-> ytsejam(a)ax.com
MANIGANCE - Signe De Vie FRANCE Rating: * * * 1997 BRENNUS BR 8024.AR Playing Time: 31:28
Manigance is a new band in the metal scene, put together by members from a various other French bands in 1995. Now they have recorded a 6 track CD with melodic power heavy metal with some progressive touches. I don't know why they only did a 6 track CD when they could have done a full-length album. This makes the CD rather short, only 31 minutes. Not much music for the money (in length), but really good music and musicians instead, making this a really well done debut. Their influences can be found in such different groups as Dream Theater, Toto, Pretty Maids, Van Halen and Whitesnake.
All the vocals are done in French by a very strong singer. It's a good move to sing in French to avoid the French accent you can hear with, for example, the French band H=FFdra. The singer is really above the average, with a touch of David Coverdale. He's the kind of singer you wished had joined Iron Maiden instead of Blaze Bayley. The guitarists and the drummer are really good too, and the album has got a clean nice sound.
This album is really exciting, but unfortunately they don't have as strong melodies as their fellow countrymen Arsenic, H=FFdra and Trust has. Although they are very technically skilled it will take some time before you begin to recognise the individual tracks. But after all, this is a good starter for the future!
Contact MANIGANCE - 5 place Saint Louis de Gonzague - 64000 Pau - FRANCE You can also contact their record company Brennus records: Alain Ricard / 5 rue de Lixy / 89140 Villethierry - France / tel / Fax: 33 3 86 66 51 41 & Web site: http://www.id-net.fr/musea
-Reviewed by Greger Ronnqvist-
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:45:48 +0200 From: Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: regarding EMG's Message-ID: <3607F05C.F0BA1FBD@stones.com>
Hi folx,
I noticed there's certain interest in EMG humbuckers, so I thought I can give you some input on that. (NDTC) EMG 81 (bridge), SA (middle) and 85 (neck) came stock on my custom Sever guitar. 81 is the ultimate crunch pickup, though it requires a big tube amp for good sound, I don't have too good experiences with solid states. The harmonics and sustain that you get from this sucker will beat anything in the marker. But beware, it's one purpose pickup only, shred namely. Don't even attempt to get good clean sound with it on bridge. The SA definately sounds like single coil, but it's nothing near your usual strat sound. I guess it's great if you use it with multi fx processors but it tends to sound a bit sterile and thin otherwise, especially in the bridge position. The 85 in the neck position sounds like heaven to me. Rich fat sound with sustains that goes on and on like Duracell bunny. I like the way it sounds in clean mode too and I'm definately interested in how it would sound on bridge position (anyone?) I guess people have love/hate relationship with these pickups, but I'm a sucker for active electronics so it suits me more than fine.
I ordered a Clapton Fender signature strat and it should come in a couple of weeks. Can anyone give me any opinions about this axe? Quality, sound, feel etc..
Thanx a bunch...
Matej
NP: TTT with Rudess I admire this fella's virtuosity, but I kinda don't dig his sound. Must be something with the mp3 cause I loved the sound he had live in Pordenone. I still preffer Derek's sound, sounds more DTish to me :O)
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:24:13 PDT From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: a lot of fuzz Message-ID: <19980922192414.19983.qmail@hotmail.com>
hi jammers, ok, after finding out that winamp for mac is macamp(hi jerry), installing and finally listening to TTT feat. JR I can only say that as far as taste - musically and also socially, as proven earlier on this venue - Mr. Calvin6S proves to be a reliable source of information - to me. >Okay the countless "Jordan's TTT performance rules, why isn't Rudess in DT?" is getting stupid. I've listened to the TTT mp3 a couple of times and I can't see the reason why such conclusions as "Jordan is amazing" can be drawn. The last few minutes show whether or not Jordan FITS DT and I think those few minutes of improv speak clearly - HE DOESN'T. His improve lines are very repetitive and pattern driven. They aren't BAD, but they just aren't all that exciting. His technique is almost flawless (probably flawless if he had more time to prepare), but it just seems to be lacking in terms of flair. <
I like this version very much because one of my fav. parts in this song("I think it's time for a chaaaaaaaaaange..") is well performed and the unisono ending is something special. As far as the outro solo is concerned I agree w/Calvin 100%, indeed had an idea whose outro solo I'd like to listen to. I will not post it on the list, because we know who the current members of DT are, who makes DT what it is and I don't want to start another threat. If you are not happy with it, don't listen to it, or elect another band to be your favorite.
Nevertheless a nice song by a nice band
schnipp
Just fuckin' seize the fuckin' day...
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