YTSEJAM Digest 4307
Today's Topics:
1) CDs, Boots, and... Chickens?
by "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
2) AoI, VTT, and DT in Guitar magazine
by "BassicRob" <bassicrob@geocities.com>
3) Re: Vai's Projects
by Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com>
4) Re: AoI, VTT, and DT in Guitar magazine
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
5) Tyranny - the story
by EB <ebatur@securenet.net>
6) RE: AOR
by Anomie <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu>
7) Fates Warning new live album (cover)
by "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfqc@nl1.telmex.net.mx>
8) AOR
by Dave <sirdave@concentric.net>
9) A very long funny story about monkeys NDTC
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
10) re: does anybody care? (about SX)
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
11) Song Of The Millennium
by "MacAusland, Robert: HFX" <MacAusland.Robert@ic.gc.ca>
12) Alabama touring - the lack thereof...
by Dave Ware <dware@walker.com>
13) Debate intended, DTC!
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4306
by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
15) NikBrooks' Diversity
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
16) Re: AOR
by "Bj?rnar Bevolden" <bjornar.bevolden@hm.telia.no>
17) Tori Amos on Roseanne , Another cd-r question
by MentalHunk@aol.com
18) Ytsecon dream and Satch's self titled album
by "Wes <Beavis> Foll" <follwes@sc.llu.edu>
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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:12:58 -0400
From: "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: CDs, Boots, and... Chickens?
Message-ID: <19980930031444.KTCR4423@239157822worldnet.att.net>
Hello,
Chris Isaak: Speak of the Devil. My early frontrunner for best CD of the
year. Since live CDs typically don't impress me, I doubt DT will usurp this
position. In trying to think back to other new releases from this year, I
can't think of one other CD that has received serious rotation in my
player. I can't get this one OUT.
One big monkey in Chris Merlo's basement typed:
>Remember when people who got their hands on this kind of
>thing used to start a tape tree? *sigh*
I do remember. And I would be more than happy to buy a copy of this and
tape it for anyone who is willing to give me some stuff in return. Nowadays
I have to resort to buying new material to get trades in return. It
downright sucks. But we've been down that road, haven't we? Speaking of
which- SWIFTY!!!!! Tape Swap this year? If you don't want to do it, I will!
And right after voting for ACOS, someone spewed:
>How do Garth Brooks, Bryan Adams, bloody HANSON, A-Ha
> and others get on the list before the Beatles?!?!?!
Umm... The same way DT did: by having rabid fans who vote for songs without
regard to influence and primacy. I'd vote for Joe Satriani's Baroque, but I
don't believe in voting, for anything under any circumstances. :P
And did anyone else hear about the stink some animal rights group put up
over John Randle's Nike/NFL ad? I love animals, but boy some people really
need to get lives...
Stodgers marvels at the wonders of human nature...
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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:22:27 -0400
From: "BassicRob" <bassicrob@geocities.com>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: AoI, VTT, and DT in Guitar magazine
Message-ID: <001401bdec21$8d53d7c0$28f0cc98@rob>
Hey Jammers,
Flipping through the latest copy of Guitar Magazine, I noticed a
review of both Explorer's Club AoI and Vital Tech Tones. AoI got a
good review and it's all summed up by "..Petucci and Murphy save AoI
from collapsing under the weight of long-winded virtuosity by punching
in blazing solos that confirm prog rock is alive and well."
As for the Vital Tech Tones review, it is definately awsome. I
bought this cd last week and i must URGE, BEG, PLEAD, you to go out
and but this if you haven't. 3 AMAZING musicians playing as tight
as...well...tight! "this is one of the most explosively
improvisational records in recent memory" says Guitar. <drool> says
me.
Then the best part of the mag, turn 2 pages after these two revies
and POW! An almost full page ad for OiaL and 5YiaL. the majesty symbol
never looked so good! it also give a web address:
http://www.onceinalivetime.com havent checked this out myself yet but
will do.
Anyway, thats enough from me, back to lurk....
=A0=A0=A0-Rob, bassicrob@geocities.com ICQ# 15762800
bassicrob@new-york.crosswinds.net
DT MP3 Archive, Artwork, LTE Desktop theme, bass solos, and me
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/1566
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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:29:43 -0500
From: Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Vai's Projects
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980929222943.007a4100@academ03.mty.itesm.mx>
At 09:59 PM 28/09/98 -0700, Jim Shields wrote:
>
>let's not forget the group of kiddie shredders Vai produced, called like
>Bad 4 Good or some godaweful name like that! they were all like 14 or 15
>when Vai produced them.
>
Thomas McRocklin, guitarist for Bad4Good released a solo album that is
available online...I have the URL that takes orders of it if anyone is
interested
--- MP3 of the week - "The Ben Stiller Show Theme" By Dweezil Zappa http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/2025/Alan Estrada Adler, ICQ #9267174 Monterrey, Mexico -------------------------------------------------------- TAKE NOTE OF MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: alan_estrada@bigfoot.com
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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:53:40 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: AoI, VTT, and DT in Guitar magazine Message-ID: <001601bdec25$ebdcc0a0$3a1110ac@demccor.clemson.edu>
>never looked so good! it also give a web address: >http://www.onceinalivetime.com havent checked this out myself yet but >will do.
hehe, i love the alternating caps hAckEr mEnU :) moo.
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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:56:19 -0400 From: EB <ebatur@securenet.net> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Tyranny - the story Message-ID: <01BDEC04.C217B5C0.ebatur@securenet.net>
So you want to know what Shadow Gallery's "Tyranny" is all about? It's a story about a computer scientist who sends a virus to the World Financial Transaction Computer Network, read more here:
http://truemetal.org/sweet-suffering/
there's an interview with the bassist.
Elvis B.
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 00:40:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Anomie <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu> To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: AOR Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980930004002.7001B-100000@river.it.gvsu.edu>
AOR = Album oriented radio, I do believe.
-C#
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:11:01 -0600 From: "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfqc@nl1.telmex.net.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fates Warning new live album (cover) Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980930011101.0079d230@nl1.telmex.net.mx>
Hi all!
Check the cover of the upcoming Fates Warning Live CD at:
http://www.ivorygate.com/fw/pics/c_sl2.jpg
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Date: 9/30/1998 2:40 From: Dave <sirdave@concentric.net> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: AOR Message-ID: <199809300641.CAA05784@newman.concentric.net>
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I have heard two meanings for AOR; Adult Oriented Rock or Album Oriented Rock
Does anyone know which, if either, is correct?
-Dave
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 00:44:43 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: A very long funny story about monkeys NDTC Message-ID: <70F2A25BBC4DD21194B400A024D1C34128E599@ms.kallback.com>
> TWO thousand monkeys in D-Man's basement typed: > > A thousand monkeys in Joe DeAngelo's basement typed: > Hey! At least there's only ONE thousand monkeys in my basement...... > so > there! Well since we're on the subject of monkeys I thought I would post a very funny story about them. It's quite possibly one of the funniest things I've ever read. I hope you agree. Trevor
I like Monkeys
The pet store was selling them for five cents a piece. I thought this was odd since they were normally a couple thousand. I decided not to look a gift horse in the mouth so I bought 200 of them. I like monkeys.
I took my 200 monkeys home. I have a big car. I let one of them drive. His name was Sigmund. He was retarded. In fact, none of them were really bright. They kept punching themselves in the genitals. I laughed. They punched me in the genitals. I stopped laughing.
I herded them into my room. They didn't adapt very well to their new environment. They would screech and hurl themselves off the couch at high speeds and slam into the wall. Although humorous at first, the spectacle lost its novelty halfway into it's third hour.
Two hours later I found out why all the monkeys were so inexpensive; they all died. No apparent reason. They all just sort of dropped dead. Kinda like when you buy a goldfish and it dies five hours later. God damn cheap monkeys.
I didn't know what to do. There were 200 dead monkeys lying all over my room; on the bed, in the dresser, hanging from my bookcase. It looked like I had 200 throw rugs. I tried to flush one down the toilet. It didn't work. It got stuck. Then I had one dead, wet monkey and one hundred ninety-nine dead, dry monkeys.
I tried to pretend that they were just stuffed animals. That worked for awhile, that is until they began to decompose. It started to smell real bad.
I had to pee but there was a dead monkey in my toilet and I didn't want to call a plumber. I was embarrassed.
I tried to slow down the decomposition by freezing them. Unfortunately there was only enough room for two at a time, so I had to change them every 30 seconds. I also had to eat all the food in the freezer so it didn't go bad.
I tried to burn them, but little did I know that my bed was flammable. I had to extinguish the fire.
Then I had one dead, wet monkey in my toilet, two dead, frozen monkeys in my freezer, and one hundred ninety-seven dead, charred monkeys in a pile on my bed, The odor wasn't improving.
I became agitated at my inability to dispose of the dead monkeys and I really had to use the bathroom. So I went and severely beat one of the monkeys. I felt better.
I tried throwing them away but the garbage man said the city was not allowed to dispose of charred primates. I told him I had a wet one. He couldn't take it either. I didn't bother asking about the frozen ones.
I finally arrived at a solution. I gave them out as Christmas gifts. My friends didn't quite know what to say. They pretended to like them, but I could tell they were lying. Ingrates. So I punched them in the genitals.
I like monkeys.
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:43:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: does anybody care? (about SX) Message-ID: <19980918224354.2905.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com>
"(just) Asmodel" <asmodel@pils.kvarteret.uib.no> wrote:
> I got Symphony X's "Twilight in Olympus" (latest album) a few hours ago..I > dont know..I havent heard "Divine Wings.." so I dont know if they evolved > or not..the thing is,whats so special with this band?
A few hours ago!? That may be the problem. It took quite awhile for Symphony X to really sink in for me, then I loved it. You mentioned that the guitar is similar to Yngwie, and I used to be a big Yngwie fan, so I always liked the SX guitar. I also like the keyboards, but the vocals are what really makes Symphony X great. Keep listening, and it may start to grow on you.
(Hell, I had DT - I&W for a year before it really struck me how good it was...)
my $.01, BH
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:49:00 -0400 From: "MacAusland, Robert: HFX" <MacAusland.Robert@ic.gc.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Song Of The Millennium Message-ID: <199809301146.EAA28283@odin.ax.com>
I'm not one to nitpick... well, ok I am one to nitpick :-), but I don't think one should be allowed to vote for the Song Of The Millenium, until you realise that it's spelled MILLENNIUM and not MILLENIUM.
Now that I have that off my chest, a word or two regarding the hidden horrors of non-fat yogurt...
Rob
P.S. The real song of the Millennium is Snow Bird by Anne Murray. End of discussion.
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:35:14 -0500 From: Dave Ware <dware@walker.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Alabama touring - the lack thereof... Message-ID: <FB615A6AB848D211BD930060975B3ACF024422@BHAM-XCHG1.immpower.com>
Hey Guys,
Nicole wrote: >since when is Florence,Al the only city in Alabama ?
I have to agree - I've not been here long and I've been lucky enough to witness Page and Plant at Birmingham, but apart from Pearl Jam (yes I admit it, I like them - I just didn't get the chance to go as they sold out in about ten minutes), there really isn't much interest from alot of bands to come down here. I have found a number of people into hard rock/metal, who are desperate to see some good bands, it's not all Country (sp?) and Western down here.
Dave (a UK jammer - now in Alabama).
PS. I like the Cure too.
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 15:42:47 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Debate intended, DTC! Message-ID: <36124367.385A5127@mol.com.mk>
I wanna share with you a weird discussion I had with a friend. We listened DT for the first time in his house, introduced by a guy who came then and brought I&W tape. So, my intro point is that now we're both DT fans, some more, some less, but anyway DT FANS. Now on with the story.
These days he reacts quite negative on many topics and here's the one:
"I just hate this kinda bands who play covers 'n stuff! And what's that stupidity of titling an album according old Talking Heads song? Why they emphasize SO MUCH playing covers? Can't they make their own good music?"
Later he said that he would not buy the live DT album.
?????????????
Personally, I see nothing bad in DT playing covers and foolin' around with adding excerpts of famous songs while playing live. I LOVE it! Why not? They all listened this music while younger and while learning playing so it's:
1) A PLEASURE playing your fave stuff 2) Paying tribute to those bands
Thos songs they play happens to be songs I also listened/listen and are some of my fave music. So it's a bonus reason to enjoy it! Which Zeppelin fan would stay calm listening Mike just before end of a song starts drumming "Moby Dick"?? ;) Woohooo, GREAT!
I also read few reviews on DT music that they sound too much like this or that old band. I listen ALOT old music and don't find SO many similarities. True, I don't know Rush that much, but what I heard, I can't say that DT just copy them. Nonsense. IMO, DT sound is something new and revolutionary in today's music. And using bits and pieces from some older music is not a sin, it's natural. As Brian May says in his guitar school video: "Nobody creates in vacuum!" This is very true! You pick up and learn playing an instrument; No matter what kinda music you wanna compose consciously, un-consciously you're influenced by your musical background, the sound you liked in other bands. Ultimately, every first composing step is kinda coping which later turns into originality. After all, while you were learning playing the guitar, you were practicing on ripping off Jimmy Page, or Van Halen, Blackmore, DiMeola etc. Everybody do that!
And the stuff with DT's title of the live album: it's cool! Coping, cheating means, IMHO, somehting you take and try to hide, presenting it's your own. But in this case I see it as cool! DT KNOWS that everyone knows this is TH song title. So what's the big deal? It's cool title for live album.
Anyone has comments on this? Agrees? Disagrees? Wanna add something?
CyberDuke
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 06:50:23 PDT From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4306 Message-ID: <19980930135023.1275.qmail@hotmail.com>
hi jammers, I thought the excellent job of Satriani-Satriani was already discussed, but then...
Maybe somebody can answer my question: What's John Kalodner-John Kalodner
in the liner notes?? You find this e.g. on Vai's albums and on some Tyketto and what not.
Thanks schnipp
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:03:23 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NikBrooks' Diversity Message-ID: <3612483B.68977D40@mol.com.mk>
> From: NikBrooks@aol.com > Subject: Diversity IS Nice > > Um, I listen to DT AND Bush, although I must say their first album (16 Stone) > with Everything Zen etc is the one I prefer.
Is Bush you're all talking about Kate Bush? She has some very cool stuff!
> I also listen to a WHOLE lot more diverse stuff besides. > > Eg., Marcus Miller, Mike Oldfield, Marillion, Beethoven, Rachmaninov, Pat > Metheny, Massed Pipes and Drums of the Scots Dragoon Guards, Los Trios > Paraguayos, Passion Grace & Fire (McLaughlin, Di Meola and De Lucia), Chopin, > Debussy, Puccini (esp La Boheme), Cyclone Tracy, Angra, Glenn Hughes, T Ride > (whatever happened to them?), Roundabout (Yes), the list is endless. It just > has to sound good and have some sort of musical structure/score .........
Right! > I do draw the line at the Spice Girls though ;-)
Now wait a minute! I guess I agree but once on some music channel I saw a video clip by Spice Grils. Dunno the title, nothing. It was quite slow tune but VERY psychodelic sounding. And I liked it! :) And I guess they sing good, no matter the music direction is garbage.
Fellow jammer said to me privately that he also like it (I won't say his name for security reasons ;) and that it is song probably from their new album.
CyberDuke
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:37:31 +0200 From: "Bj?rnar Bevolden" <bjornar.bevolden@hm.telia.no> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: AOR Message-ID: <3612503B.94BB3AB3@hm.telia.no>
Hello ! Dave wrote: > I have heard two meanings for AOR; > Adult Oriented Rock or Album Oriented Rock >=20 > Does anyone know which, if either, is correct? Adult Oriented Rock is the correct meaning of aor.
Bye, Bj=F8rnar, Norway !
NP: Crises: S/t
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:49:57 EDT From: MentalHunk@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Tori Amos on Roseanne , Another cd-r question Message-ID: <3dba42d5.36125325@aol.com>
For those who care, Tori Amos will be on the Roseanne show on Thursday morning...... (NBC)
Also : Is there a good way to record an analog source (say, a VCR tape or record) onto a computer cd-r ? I was curious how to do this, if possible at all, with good sound quality....obviously I'm new at this....
Keep Jammin Tom
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:50:20 -0700 From: "Wes <Beavis> Foll" <follwes@sc.llu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ytsecon dream and Satch's self titled album Message-ID: <199809301550.IAA07049@sc.llu.edu>
> Okay...... so that's officially TWO of us who love it....... and 1398 > > who hate it!? ;-) > > Call it three. I love Satch's self-titled album.
>D-Man, you're cool.
Okay, add me to this list. I love the self titled Satch album too. I like even a little better than The Extremist, not that it is a bad album by any means.... Anyways, I just had a dream about Ytsecon 98 last night for some reason. I dreamt I met a bunch of jammers and was joking around with them. I remember I went to go get something to eat from the snack table and this Jammer-bitch who was in charge of it scolded me and was like, "you didn't even help make it! You were out there joking around and talking the whole time! NO FOOD FOR YOU!" hhaha I was like, fuck you, and left. WHY did I dream that? Somebody psychoanalize this please. 8)
see ya, Beavis (Wes Foll) ++The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.
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