YTSEJAM Digest 4820
Today's Topics:
1) ibanez GAX70 - opinions wanted
by jeff hochberg <slave1@nycap.rr.com>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4819
by jeff hochberg <slave1@nycap.rr.com>
3) Re: prog bands....
by "Oliver Pettenpaul" <topper@uni-paderborn.de>
4) Honey! I'm home!
by "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
5) Ban all drum machines RIGHT NOW.
by "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
6) drum triggers!
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
7) 420 - from a DT point of view
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
8) My top ten first DT experiences, MIME-encoded, of course :)
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
9) Another Mike Portnoy clinic
by Portnoy420@aol.com
10) Re: Chaquico
by "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
11) 420/Happy bday
by "Scott Sturdivant" <scott@erotomania.org>
12) bg
by "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com>
13) mp3 players
by "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4818
by Riffinator@aol.com
15) Brittany Spears
by Compadre32@aol.com
16) Gordian Knot info?
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
17) Re: Honey! I'm home!
by Craig Griffith <tarkus@softhome.net>
18) Dynamic Drum Triggers
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
19) acoustic reccomendations
by "Paul Dyer" <s347742@student.uq.edu.au>
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:55:12 -0400
From: jeff hochberg <slave1@nycap.rr.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: ibanez GAX70 - opinions wanted
Message-ID: <371CA360.3EC666EB@nycap.rr.com>
i need a cheap backup guitar and have been looking around at various
entry level models. anyone owned/played the ibanez GAX70? i play heavy
rock - nothing real technical, mostly just power/bar/open chord rhythm
parts. any opinions on this particular axe would be greatly appreciated.
please reply via private e-mail. slave1@nycap.rr.com
thanks
jeff
'wipe them out. all of them.' - darth sidious
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:08:03 -0400
From: jeff hochberg <slave1@nycap.rr.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4819
Message-ID: <371CA663.DD4F2C95@nycap.rr.com>
> Prater also was responsible for the triggered "coffee-can"
> snare sound on ACOS.
phil! that "coffee can" is known as a piccolo snare, and it's absolutely
NOT triggered. the snare work on ACoS is IMO the most dynamic of any DT
recording. take another listen...
jeff
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:16:47 +0200
From: "Oliver Pettenpaul" <topper@uni-paderborn.de>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: prog bands....
Message-ID: <000801be8b49$4bedc620$03000004@stimpy.uni-paderborn.de>
>hey guys i was wondering...can anyone recommend some other bands like DT...i
>mean i know DT is one of a kind but anything of that sort that u figure that
>a DT fan may enjoy...i tried Stratovarius and Shadow Gallery and it wasnt
>really what i was looking for...(maybe i chose the wrong albums or further
>yet the wrong bands) does anyone recommend a cool DT/RUSH
>band?....Jubijuju@aol.com
Hey, my first posting to this list: Hi there jammers !
If you like Rush check out Tiles, perhaps 'Fence the Clear' first. Sounds
very 'rushy' to me but with enough own potential.
Hm, did you try Shadow Gallery's 'Tyranny' ? It took me some hours to adapt
to the CD but it made it's way into my personal top ten...
Very close to DT: Empty Tremor from Italy. Great songs and performance but,
well, the vocals could need just a little bit 'development', quite like Vigilante
from Japan.
Some other bands to give a try: Enchant (more on the Rush-side),
Superior, Damn the Machine, Sieges Even, Psychotic Waltz, Arena's 'The Visitor'
and as always: Fates Warning =8)
Magna Carta released a sampler called 'frog pest tree' featuring Ice Age, Magellan,
Royal Hunt, Dali's dilemma, LTE and Explorers Club among others.
The home demo version of Ice Age's 'Join' really blew my away
Well, lotso stuff to check out, I hope you find something you like.
Cheers, O/iverP NP: Sieges Even - Sophisticated
-- How do you tell if a drummer is dead? The beer bottle is still full and the comics haven't been touched.------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:21:36 GMT From: "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk> To: "Caught In a Jam" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Honey! I'm home! Message-ID: <21A3F26D6A@sdk1.derby.ac.uk>
Hi again folks, I've returned. Once more unto the breach an' all that.
> >|you dont like BRITTNEY SPEARS? >Once again, unlike FW, Britney is an artist whose popularity is a >result of her looks and image. IF she was an AVERAGE LOOKING >person (like the guys in most rock groups, for example), she wouldn't >have sold shit for albums. Dear oh dear. What do you mean IF? BS is the perfect example of someone you'd never give a second glance to if she wasn't on TV. I do agree with your point, but let's be honest: Britney is hardly an example of beauty and physical perfection (well, she's no Minnie Diver, and she's not Irish, so it would be difficult). Besides, since we're being fair, I'd hardly call DT's members "average" looking - c'mon, JP, MP and KJLB stand head-and-shoulders above most guys in the moist-gusset stakes.
Just to chuck in my first DT experience, I saw a good review of them in Metal Hammer, and thought it was a really cool name; and since this unsigned band I really liked cited them as heroes, I thought I ought to give it a try. FII (impressed), then I&W (Jaw hit floor), then Awake (took a few spins, but ended up as firm favourite), ACoS (rapidly getting obsessed by DT by this point), L@TM (Required some time to recover - wow, they can actually pull this stuff off LIVE??), and then WDADU (...Err...Well, five out of six is respectable for any band, right?).
Must run,
Si ------------------------------------------------------ "If there's a pensive fear, a wasted year A Man must learn to cope If his obsession's real, suppression that he feels Must turn to hope" -John Petrucci s.j.dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk lord_ibanez@hotmail.com http://members.tripod.com/Lord_Ibanez/Lord_Ibanez.html ------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:28:36 GMT From: "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk> To: "Caught In a Jam" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Ban all drum machines RIGHT NOW. Message-ID: <21C17D7010@sdk1.derby.ac.uk>
I nearly forgot.
I want to know exactly why the Corrs use a drum machine on their last album, when their drummer is actually quite shockingly good. I'm not kidding, she can really play - hell they ALL can. Time to kill the producer, methinks.
Si
NP: The Corrs, "Forgiven Not Forgotten"
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:56:45 -0500 From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: drum triggers! Message-ID: <2.2.32.19990420165645.006e25b0@pi-r-squared.com>
Wow... I guess you learn something new everyday, I never knew MP used drum triggers on I&W... but I guess it explains a lot (like why I've never been able to get that snare sound). I always admired how clean of a tone Mike gets from his drums... never imagined that the first time I heard it was triggered. Ah well... scary thing is he can duplicate it live if need be. As for my opinion on triggered drums, it takes the heart out of percussion. One of the things I'm always trying to show to non-percussionists is how accents and light flavor hits can REALLY spice up a rhythm (Just listen to Portnoy's drum solos... he sounds like a marching percussionist). Drum triggers take that away. On another note I'd really hate to hear what FII would have sounded like with those triggers, it relies too much on tone variation.
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:38:20 -0700 From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: 420 - from a DT point of view Message-ID: <371CBB8C.5F96CDD4@ucla.edu>
God, I'm losing it. Last night my friend came in and said "Happy 420" and the first thing I thought was "Oh, I forgot, it's Portnoy's birthday!" I'll know I'm really gone when I start thinking Britney Spears is cute.
~~Amanda
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:57:02 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: My top ten first DT experiences, MIME-encoded, of course :) Message-ID: <371CCDFE.7D31@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Happy Birthday, Mike!
I'd be curious to know what your first DT experience was, Mike :)
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Thanks to Cyberduke for posting that URL on the Zappa sounds. For all those who are convinced Frank was nothing more than stupid lyrics around hokey melodies and stuff, you might want to check today's samples out. He was just a monster composer, a composing machine!!
Think about it, for someone the masses know mostly for such thought provoking lyrics as "Don't Eat The Yellow Snow" and "He POOTS forth" to be the same person who could even conceive this stuff! He was keeping classical music alive as much as any modern day classical composer. What a loss... <sigh>
He couldn't get enough..He attempted to use every instrument / sound / tambre known to humans and span the audible frequency spectrum over the course of a 3 minute passage. This is just some whacked out, grandiose stuff, on a scale of theatRE. I dare label it Progressive Symph. :)
]From http://zappa.hemisfear.com/gp83.htm
> Q:Do you have any favorite contemporary musicians? > FZ:No. > > Q:Are there any that you severely dislike? > FZ:No. I think that if a person is making music -- even if it's the most crass, commercial kind of crud -- that person should be doing that because > there are people who want to consume crass, commercial crud. And they're doing a necessary function for the audience that needs to be entertained. > Just because I'm not the consumer of that stuff, it's no reason for me to go on some big campaign against it. I don't think it's particularly aesthetic, but > then again, if it's providing enjoyment for somebody, then fine. > > Q:So for you it's easier to ignore it. > FZ:Well, I'm not a consumer of pop music. I don't listen to the radio. I don't go to see groups. I don't buy albums. I've got too much other stuff to do; that > world is not for me. I'm not interested.
hmmm....
Regards, Jon --
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:11:32 EDT From: Portnoy420@aol.com To: Portnoy420@aol.com Subject: Another Mike Portnoy clinic Message-ID: <4664151d.244e2b64@aol.com>
Another Mike Portnoy clinic (solo) has been added:
Tuesday May 25th at Music Richard Gendreau 634 Blvd Charest Est Quebec City, QC Canada
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:26:18 -0400 From: "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Chaquico Message-ID: <199904201226172@robpociluk.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
Craig's latest CD with Russ Freeman of the Rippingtons is a great CD. It's called "From The Redwoods to the Rockies." Excellent. Also, "Acoustic Planet" is wonderful.
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:25:57 -0400 From: "Scott Sturdivant" <scott@erotomania.org> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: 420/Happy bday Message-ID: <000e01be8b63$a05b1720$ca586acf@ckssrs.axiomnet.com>
>Happy 420 everyone and Happy Birthday Mike Portnoy...I find it really >strange that his birthday is today.
>chris
I find it even odder that at a drum clinic in LI (a certain mike portnoy being the one doing the clinic...), number 420 was drawn for a Starclassic Maple Snare. Coincidence? I think not :) Regardless, happy bday mike!
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:57:27 PDT From: "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: bg Message-ID: <19990420195727.49429.qmail@hotmail.com>
it's a B-Side of blind guardian.. released on the "Mr. Sandman" single and also on a B-Side type album called "The Forgoten Tales".. great song :) also check "Barbra Anne", "Surfin USA", and "Spread Your Wings" by blind guardian.. they have a wonderful way of butchering oldies ..
inferno NP: Blind Guardian - Nightfall in Middle-Earth
>And while I'm here... I just kiped a CD-R my friend was made by >some fellow at school today, but there's no labeling on the disc >and the guy didn't tell him who it was, but there is a really >cool Speed Metal version of Mr. Sandman on it. heh. I'm sure >someone here knows who it is. I'm tempted to say Stratovarius or >Helloween, but I can't say for sure. Thanks in advance!
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:02:31 PDT From: "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: mp3 players Message-ID: <19990420200231.23241.qmail@hotmail.com>
i made an mp3 player which was basically a 486 driven from some specific software on a floppy disk.. it was a hellava lot more compact though and no monitor.. just scrolled through the songs with 2 arrow keys.. kinda cool but i needed the mememory i put into it so i looted it :)..
my buddy's building one for his beamer .. he's got an lcd screen workin for it an everything.. i don't know the scematics right now but i'm sure i can get them in the near futer..
inferno
>Hey guys, sorry for the lack of DTC so I'll skip right to the >main point. Does anyone have any plans out there for a rack >system mp3 player which describes how to make one and stuff? >If so, please email me, I'm very >interested in one! Thanks!!!!! > >Scott.
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:42:46 EDT From: Riffinator@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4818 Message-ID: <64beb5b4.244e4ed6@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/20/99 6:51:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ytsejam@ax.com writes:
<< I don't know whether virtually every albulm by any band these days is recorded with drum machines or not, but I was wondering whether I&W was recorded with the use of a drum machine? Of all the DT albulms I've heard (all of the albulms they've produced), I&W sounds most like it has a drum machine. Cheers Niall >>
He didn't mean it Mike! Go easy man! Actually, the thing with I&W is that the snare was triggered - in other words every snare tap had the same volume regardless of its force, or at least that's how I understood it. In that case the drums may have seemed a little artificial, but if you still need proof go get the LIT vid and you'll see Portnoy behind his kit at BearTracks. Speaking of Mike, happy b-day!
Drew
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:05:27 EDT From: Compadre32@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Brittany Spears Message-ID: <c59d6662.244e5427@aol.com>
To tell everyone the truth, ive caught myself (IM SURE AS WELL AS ALMOST HALF THE MALE YTSEJAM POPULATION) watchin eMpTytV when her video comes on.....DONT QUOTE ME ON THIS, BUT YOU REALLY HALF TO ADMIT HOW G*DDAMN GORGEOUS SHE IS!! :) alright.....i finally got that out after dilligently avoiding it for many ytsejam digests.
~Compadre32~
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:54:24 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: YtseLand <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Gordian Knot info? Message-ID: <371CF790.FD1A3EB9@mol.com.mk>
I downloaded GK mp3 "Rivers Dancing" from an FTP server sent by jammer. Now, I'm a little confused:
Artist name: Sean Malone Album: Gordian Knot
[ Malone | Snelwar | Reinert ]
I thought the band name is GK? Am I right? And where is Myung in the line-up? Or he is playing just on some albums? What is GK actually, a real band or a project? I heard that Malone is the main figure in it. But if the band is GK why Artist name is not GK? :) Can someone enlighten me? Thanx -- CyberDuke
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:36:46 -0400 From: Craig Griffith <tarkus@softhome.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Honey! I'm home! Message-ID: <371D017D.FBCFEAB1@softhome.net>
Simon John Dodd wrote:
> Hi again folks, I've returned. Once more unto the breach an' all > that. > > > >|you dont like BRITTNEY SPEARS? > >Once again, unlike FW, Britney is an artist whose popularity is a > >result of her looks and image. IF she was an AVERAGE LOOKING > >person (like the guys in most rock groups, for example), she wouldn't > >have sold shit for albums. > Dear oh dear. What do you mean IF? BS is the perfect example of > someone you'd never give a second glance to if she wasn't on TV. I do > agree with your point, but let's be honest: Britney is hardly an > example of beauty and physical perfection (well, she's no Minnie > Diver, and she's not Irish, so it would be difficult). Besides, since > we're being fair, I'd hardly call DT's members "average" looking - > c'mon, JP, MP and KJLB stand head-and-shoulders above most guys > in the moist-gusset stakes.
Additionally, many females find Ray Alder of Fates Warning attractive, but I doubt that's what sells the relatively minute quantities of FW discs.
-- Craig Griffith: High school student, guitar player, King of Craigland http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/8509/ Music page: http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Opera/2398/index.html "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" -Ian Anderson
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:58:13 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: "Korgie's Angels" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Dynamic Drum Triggers Message-ID: <00da01be8b93$510e5620$590d84d0@default>
>percussionist). Drum triggers take that away. On another note I'd really >hate to hear what FII would have sounded like with those triggers, it
Actually, have you ever played a Roland V-Drum set? Not that it beats a real drumkit, but it is one of the sweetest toys I've ever played on (and I'm not a drummer!). Dynamic samples rule. It'd be something great to have if you wanted to record live-sounding drums and didn't want to waste the time getting a good sound out of a real kit.(recording real kits seems to be a nightmare, mics everywhere, the drummer belches and you hear it in the middle of New Millenium, etc...)
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the bass drum was also sampled throughout I&W, too. Haven't seen mention of that anywhere.
>course of a 3 minute passage. This is just some whacked out, grandiose >stuff, on a scale of theatRE. I dare label it Progressive Symph. :)
I truly believe that Peaches En Regalia qualifies for that label. His lyrics aren't stupid at all anyway. If you actually pay attention to them they're very witty and funny. Listening to FZ is like lighting newborn kittens on fire and playing music to their convulsions. Or was that Devin Townsend?
And thanks for letting me know about Blind Guardian, I like this CD. :) -- KorgX3 fantasizes about napalm and puppies in toilet paper tubes. NP: Shadow Gallery - Tyranny
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:16:52 +1000 From: "Paul Dyer" <s347742@student.uq.edu.au> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: acoustic reccomendations Message-ID: <011001be8b9d$06a474c0$237f14ac@homer>
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amongst other stuff for trade....
www.geocities.com/thetropics/6914/trade.htm
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Any suggestions??
Cheers
Paul D
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