YTSEJAM Digest 4832
Today's Topics:
1) Prog fans READ
by "Giannis Vidiadakis" <mlnglst@hotmail.com>
2) Bill Dickens
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
3) QR and other "man" songs
by William Hall <wchall@email.unc.edu>
4) Chroma Key demos CD available soon!
by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@globalxs.nl>
5) ELP
by "Rahul Ananda" <rananda@mcn.com>
6) Power of Omens - Eyes of the Oracle
by GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE
7) Re: AIC and STP mix up...not
by JKorby1973@aol.com
8) Re: STP/AIC
by JKorby1973@aol.com
9) Dream Theater Bass Tab Project 2
by YtseJamJMB@aol.com
10) Re: QR and other "man" songs
by trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
11) Manly men, men in tights...
by Vince LuPone <vgl@syspac.com>
12) Re: QR and other "man" songs
by "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
13) Welcome Back my Friend to the Show that Never End
by T Ismail Reza <lukalama@rad.net.id>
14) Re: cover "man" songs
by trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
15) rhapsody CD
by "jason braswell" <funkbreath@hotmail.com>
16) rhapsody
by TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu>
17) queensryche
by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:57:06 PDT
From: "Giannis Vidiadakis" <mlnglst@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Prog fans READ
Message-ID: <19990427195706.58704.qmail@hotmail.com>
Here are some addresses you may find interesting:
http://jump.to/progmusicians ------> Looking for prog musicians to
start or join a band? Visit it then.
http://listen.to/progmetal ------> ProgMetal online fanzine with
interviews, reviews, clips and more.
http://progmetal.zzn.com ------> yourname@ProgMetal.zzn.com *free*
Email.
http://listen.to/fateswarning ------> All the latest Fates Warning
News.
seeyaround,
fateswarm
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:51:47 -0700
From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Bill Dickens
Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649809380@messaging>
Well, since a guy named 'Bill Dickens' has popped up in discussion here
lately... :)
Bill Dickens is giving a free clinic at Music Go Round in Mesa, AZ (Alma
School & Southern) at 1:00 PM on Saturday, with jazz guitarist Larry Coryell
(haven't heard Coryell, but I'm sure he's at least decent).
They're giving away a Conklin GrooveTools 4-string and a Coryell signature
Cort hollowbody with an admission ticket (which you get if you get there
early).
I'll be there sporting a Touring Into Infinity shirt...
David Dixon, MCP
Consultant
E-Commerce & Internet Technology Solutions
Integrated Information Systems, Inc.
david@iisweb.com
ytsedave@asu.edu
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:55:28 -0400
From: William Hall <wchall@email.unc.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: QR and other "man" songs
Message-ID: <37263250.8C5B0877@email.unc.edu>
>James Lenart made fun of Queensryche's new song title
>> >> What Kind of Man
>>
>> what a man, what a man....saltnpeppa baby
>Reminds *me* of the old Chicago song "What Kind of Man Would I Be"...
Reminds me of the Boston songs "To Be A Man" and "A Man I'll Never Be"
-- Cary Hall ICQ# 6956498 http://www.unc.edu/~wchall AIM: UNC Cary "The point of the journey is not to arrive." -NP------------------------------
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:55:39 +0200 From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Chroma Key demos CD available soon! Message-ID: <7726F8A116AC.AAA6495@Lesothosaurus.big-orange.net>
Great news for Chroma Key fans:
A Chroma Key demos album, entitled "This Is A Recording (demos 1995-97)" will be released on May 26th, 1999... The album will contain 15 tracks and includes all the lyrics.
Kevin Moore will begin taking pre-orders in about week but the artwork and tracklisting are already available on the site:
http://www.chromakey.com/?ytse
Mark Bredius ck_itchy@hotmail.com http://www.chromakey.com/?ytse
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:45 -0800 From: "Rahul Ananda" <rananda@mcn.com> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: ELP Message-ID: <199904272215.PAA00761@knight.axnet.net>
A good starting point for ELP, in my opinion, is either Brain Salad Surgery or Tarkus. The keyboard sounds are _very_ dated, but the performances are top-notch. Tarkus opens with the title track, which if I recall correctly, is about 20 minutes long. This is the real winner of the album, as the shorter songs are bit more mundane by comparison. I'm still not quite sure what the song is actually about though... the music is so amazing that I don't think I've ever paid too much attention to the lyrics. Brain Salad Surgery contains the magnificent Karn Evil 9 Impressions I-III. This is the first thing by ELP I'd ever heard (or by any keyboard-driven prog band for that matter) and it was the catalyst of all my future purchases. I haven't listened to ELP in quite a while so I don't even remember the names of the other songs on those albums. STAY AWAY FROM LOVE BEACH. Just look at the cover and you'll know why. :) It is a fair indication of what is contained therein. Lastly, Carl Palmer is one HELL of a drummer. His live stuff on the Return of the Manticore boxed set (is that the correct title?) will burn you alive. Everyone thinks I'm Indian.... :) -Rahul Ananda-
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:21 +0200 From: GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Power of Omens - Eyes of the Oracle Message-ID: <199904272221.yN2H@semagroup.sema.se>
--- Inkommet fr=E5n INFODATA.SVA0193 +46 670 160 60 99-04-28 00.21
POWER OF OMENS - Eyes of the Oracle USA Rating: * * * * =BD June 1998 ELEVATE ER02004 Total time: 72:26
The musicians: David Gallegos: Guitars & All Electronics Alex Arellano: Drums & Percussion Chris Salinas: Vocals Matt Williamson: bass
This debut album from Power of Omens has to be one of the most technical albums ever in the Progressive Metal genre. The music is very extremely intricate and complex. They are stretching the boundaries of progressive metal to its outer limits. Power Of Omens influences are Queensryche, Dream Theater, Iron Maiden, Shadow Gallery, Fates Warning and Rush, and you can hear it very clearly in their music. The powerful singer Chris Salinas is almost a copy of Queensr=FFche's Geoff Tate. Actually it's hard to tell the difference. The musicians are outstanding (the fact that such brilliant musicians found each other is amazing), and Power of Omens are one of the best new Prog Metal bands from USA.
Sometimes it's almost too much going on, with thousands of beats at once, and constantly changing time signatures, making the music very inaccessible. The only things that are missing here are some memorable choruses. This is what separates them from, for example Dream Theater. Dream Theater is among the best Prog Metal musicians today, but they also got the ability to write memorable songs. Power Of Omens should have thought more about that instead of just trying to get it as complex as possible. But after all you could say that this is Power of Omens trademark. To make music for those who like technical skills above all. And you can't find a more appropriate band if that's the case, but they sure wont make any big money on their music. But after all, money isn't everything!
The songs range from 5 to 20 minutes. It isn't easy to pick out any highlights on a record like this, so I wont. But I have to mention "Test of Wills", which is a 19:55 minute masterpiece that have to be one of the best Prog Metal tunes ever written. It's divided into four pieces, and I love the Spanish guitar on part II "A Struggle Within".
Power of Omens brilliant progressive music will surely find it's way to the heart of every fan of high technical progressive metal. This must be the best debut album in 1998 and one of the best Prog Metal releases ever. What you have here is a masterpiece and a milestone in progressive metal. Highly recommended!
Rumors are saying that they have another album in the making, and it's gonna be different compared to "Eyes Of The Oracle". I think that if the new album have got some more hooks, that album will be their breakthrough. No doubt about it! A record to look forward to.
If you want to find out more about Power of Omens, here's their homepage: http://members.xoom.com/PowerOfOmens/
-Reviewed by Greger R=F6nnqvist-
Email: greger.ronnqvist@infodata.sema.se
Snail Mail: Greger Ronnqvist Risselasvagen 66 B 833 35 Stromsund Sweden
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:22:56 EDT From: JKorby1973@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: AIC and STP mix up...not Message-ID: <14d7afea.2457a0d0@aol.com>
In a message dated 99-04-26 22:32:11 EDT, you write:
<< Alice In Chains hasn't broken up. They're STILL waiting for Layne Staley to > get his shit together and ditch the heroine. You must have your bands confused... that is Stone Temple Pilots that is still together and waiting for Scott Weiland to get his shit together and ditch the heroine. Last thing I heard about Alice In Chains is that they DID break up. :( They were not my fav, but a really cool band that grew on me. Angelo >>
No, I don't have my bands mixed up. STP is ALREADY back together finishing a new album and they ALREADY played their first "reunion" show at the Viper Room. As for AIC, they got together recently and completed a couple new tracks for a box set coming out, but Layne isn't quite up to doing a full album/tour yet. FYI- AIC NEVER broke up. - JK
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:42:20 EDT From: JKorby1973@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: STP/AIC Message-ID: <8ecc1be5.2457a55c@aol.com>
In a message dated 99-04-27 15:25:13 EDT, you write:
<< << You must have your bands confused... that is Stone Temple Pilots that is still together and waiting for Scott Weiland to get his shit together and ditch the heroine. Last thing I heard about Alice In Chains is that they DID break up. >> You are correct sir...it was STP that played the Viper recently, however, Alice is still together (for the moment at least). Alice's product manager at Columbia Records (who I spoke with last week) told me they are definitely still a band. A highlights (from their box set) cd is coming out in June and the box set will be out in Fall. Unreleased tracks and all. -Kyle >> I just wanted to point out the fact that you started your message by saying "You are correct sir" and totally stated the opposite yourself. For example, how can STP be waiting for Scott W. to get his act together if they're already recording/performing? And how did AIC definitely "break up" if they're "definitely still a band"? Just thought I'd point that out. -JK
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:12:22 EDT From: YtseJamJMB@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Dream Theater Bass Tab Project 2 Message-ID: <4c386846.2457ba76@aol.com>
Hello fellow jammers,
Last year I brought up the idea to have a group of bassists communicate through email and a mailing list to create bass tabs that are more correct. Last year it didn't work out too well, but I wanna try it again this year. This time I want people who will be a little more devoted to it...not spending ever waking hour on it, but spending some time every other day or so. This year we will work on one song at a time instead of a bunch of people doing different songs. And most likely we will be tabbing it in text format unless someone knows a good tabbing software that is easy on the eyes to read. Guitarists are also welcome to help. And Mark said he wouldn't mind having the tabs posted on his site, but if someone wants to make their own site devoted to John Myung and the bass tabs for the music of Dream Theater then that would be cool too. Email YtseJamJMB@aol.com if you interested.
Later All, Justin Sepulveda
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:28:15 -0700 (PDT) From: trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: QR and other "man" songs Message-ID: <19990428012815.10291.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com>
--- William Hall <wchall@email.unc.edu> wrote: > > >James Lenart made fun of Queensryche's new song > title > > >> >> What Kind of Man > >> > >> what a man, what a man....saltnpeppa baby > > >Reminds *me* of the old Chicago song "What Kind of > Man Would I Be"... > > Reminds me of the Boston songs "To Be A Man" and "A > Man I'll Never Be" > -- > Cary Hall
Reminds me of the Yardbirds' "I'm A Man". = *Trent _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:48:33 -0600 From: Vince LuPone <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Manly men, men in tights... Message-ID: <3.0.32.19990427184831.006c40e8@pop02.syspac.com>
>Reminds me of the Yardbirds' "I'm A Man". >= >*Trent
... or Phantom Blue's "Little Man" :) I heard when they used to perform that song, they had a 7 foot penis up on stage shooting water into the crowd.
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:47:21 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: QR and other "man" songs Message-ID: <iss.1dec.372668a8.8941d.1@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
Responding To: trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com> Original Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:27:41 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > --- William Hall <wchall@email.unc.edu> wrote: > > > > >James Lenart made fun of Queensryche's new song > > title > > > > >> >> What Kind of Man > > >> > > >> what a man, what a man....saltnpeppa baby > > > > >Reminds *me* of the old Chicago song "What Kind of > > Man Would I Be"... > > > > Reminds me of the Boston songs "To Be A Man" and "A > > Man I'll Never Be" > > -- > > Cary Hall > > Reminds me of the Yardbirds' "I'm A Man".
Which is actually a Bo Diddly song.
-Brian
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:55:57 +0700 From: T Ismail Reza <lukalama@rad.net.id> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Welcome Back my Friend to the Show that Never End Message-ID: <37266AA8.3EC097C6@rad.net.id>
>Based on what I like here, does anyone have any recommendations for a >beginning ELP purchase? How "old" do the original ELP albums sound? I
>really like the new, upbeat sounds on this album, and I'm concerned I'll >never get into an older ELP album, because of the sound.
Ehmmm, its my first time to write something here=D6 But you mentioned ELP; so I guess that this is YOUR responsibillity=D6:-)
Albums? I highly recommend "The Brain Salad Surgery"(The title still sounds cool, even in these dark days...); "Tarkus" (A kind of those "concept" album; lot of those "musically crazy" stuff; "Karn Evil 9" is from this album); "Trilogy"(Check out those "Endless Enigma" thing! "The Sheriff" is from this album); "Works" also good, but these are a double cd pack, so I think this is when you decided that you are totally crazy about these guys. Another one that interesting is "Piano Concerto"; also a lot of their live albums ("In Concert", "Live 1 & Live 2", "Welcome Back My Friend in The Show that Never End" etc).
If you like the "musically crazy" improv. especially on the piano & keyboards, I recommend you to take their live albums. But one thing for sure, I'm not recommended any album from their release in the '90s; believe me, they sucks! Big time! But the live album they made in 1993 ( Live At The Royal Albert Hall) is good though lack of certain "old sounds". . . .
>How "old" do the original ELP albums sound? You like Spock's Beard? So nothing is "old" about ELP sounds; they're just "legendary crazees"! ^_^
BTW, why do I have this odd feelings of "Gentle Giant" when I listened to "SB"?
np. "The Pirates"--ELP
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:56:07 -0700 (PDT) From: trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: cover "man" songs Message-ID: <19990428015607.1710.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com>
--- Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> wrote: > > Reminds me of the Yardbirds' "I'm A Man". > > Which is actually a Bo Diddly song. > > -Brian
True enough, but I couldn't for the life of me remember who did it first, but I'm a major Zep freak, so I know that the Yardbirds covered it, so I went with that. :o) === = *Trent
"I see a girl in the night with a baby in her hand. Under an old street light; near a garbage can. Now she's put the kid away, she's gone to get a hit. She hates her life and what she's done with it. That's one more kid that'll never go to school, never get to fall in love, never get to be cool." * Neil Young, a man amongst men _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:22:49 PDT From: "jason braswell" <funkbreath@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: rhapsody CD Message-ID: <19990428022253.11561.qmail@hotmail.com>
I went to CDnow to order the second Rhapsody album, but I found out that it costs almost sixty fuckin' dollars. Why the hell is this one so expensive, and is there any place I can get it cheaper?
jason
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:39:22 -0400 (EDT) From: TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: rhapsody Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990427223830.16151C-100000@hubcap.clemson.edu>
that new rhapsody is a box apparently:
LIMITED EDITION BOX. CONTAINS - 1 'SYMPHONY OF ENCHANCED LANDS'CD; - 1 FULL-COLOR BOOK (40 PAGES); - 1 PENDANT (METAL SWORD); - 1 METAL PIN (BAND LOGO & DRAGON); - 6 SILVER STICKERS; - 2 DRAGON TATTOOS; - 6 PHOTOCARDS
that's why it costs $60. moo.
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:17:34 -0400 From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: queensryche Message-ID: <37267DCE.9E66327E@bigfoot.com>
You know, I'll still see them when they come around, but I have such a strong feeling that this new ryche album is going to blow. "Q2K" ???? It sounds like the title to some bogus soundtrack, sold by the candy bars at Walmart, brought to you by the people that marketed all the Y2K slogans.
Maybe they could call it Queensryche Dance/Jock Mix '99.
Not to mention, when you hear phrases like "This album will be refreshing and different", that tends to mean, "This album will suck because we are out of ideas." I have a hunch the only "refreshingly different" thing will be the refreshingly different "lack of talent" on this album, except it won't be at all "refreshing", because their last album was a "total piece of crap", and the Promised Land had a few amazing songs, but most of that album marks their descent into "suckdom".
Maybe it will be a kick-ass album and I'll look stupid. I hope so. I'll pay that price for another good ryche album.
-- Joshua Rasiel jrasi@bigfoot.com www.j51.com/~mrasiel Churchill's description of history: "It's just one damn thing after another."
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