YTSEJAM Digest 5008
Today's Topics:
1) Ice Age
by "Hiemstra" <Hiemstra@home.nl>
2) DT names
by "Thor Bremer" <odinson9@hotmail.com>
3) DT'99 heaviness
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
4) Re: The Greatest Songs of All Time
by MTeiper@aol.com
5) Re: DT'99 heaviness
by Jens Johansson <jens@panix.com>
6) Re: DT'99 heaviness
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
7) NO MORE TOP 10 LISTS!
by Jeremy Hyde <tempus@triton.net>
8) DT Favourite Songs
by Yuval Regev <MCregev@yahoo.com>
9) No No No
by "Brandon S. Jessee" <branjispad@juno.com>
10) NGSW
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
11) cairo
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
12) Re: keyboard-help needed (absolutely NDTC)
by Count Zero <fivengrok@village.uunet.be>
13) DT show
by QueEsDick@aol.com
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5007
by "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com>
15) Re: Ice Age
by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
16) Re: Ice Age
by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
17) Re: cairo
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
18) Re: cairo
by Andreas Skarin - SDTS <skarre@2.sbbs.se>
19) Dali's Dillema
by CHAZRUSHAM@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:00:32 +0200
From: "Hiemstra" <Hiemstra@home.nl>
To: "Dream Theater Mailinglist" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Ice Age
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I just wanted to say that you all should try out Ice Age!
It sounds a lot like DT!
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:27:05 PDT
From: "Thor Bremer" <odinson9@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT names
Message-ID: <19990731172705.67941.qmail@hotmail.com>
It just occured to me that 4/5 of the members' first names start with the
letter 'J'
just randomly pulling things out of my ass again. sorry.
thor
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:35:29 -0400
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT'99 heaviness
Message-ID: <37A333E1.6F930F3D@home.com>
I said:
> > Some inside sources inform me that (as far as heaviness goes) the new
> > album will actually make Meshuggah sound like Britney Spears. ;)
Andreas said:
> Trust me, NO ONE can make Meshuggah sound like Britney Spears! Especially
> not Dream Theater.
I know. I was just kidding. Hence the ;)
Later,
--- Joe DeAngelo jdeangelo@home.com ICQ # 1872723 -------------------------------------------- "Our worlds collide, now in disguise You'll feel the Wrath Divine Tears of woe fall from the sky..." - Symphony X, "The Divine Wings of Tragedy" --------------------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:40:15 EDT From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: The Greatest Songs of All Time Message-ID: <8445d8f2.24d48eff@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/31/99 12:53:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ytsejam@ax.com writes:
<< This should be fun... Name, in your opinions, the greatest songs of all time. Include any and all songs that you feel are worthy of being listed as one of the greatest songs and why. Don't let who wrote it, when they wrote it, what genre it is, or even who has covered it since, influence your decision. Any more ground rules anyone would like to add? >>
Yep, here's another ground rule.... lists like these are forbidden on the Jam! :-)
Seriously, one of the Jam ground rules is "No Top XXX Lists". Not that I think what you're proposing is a bad idea... in fact, I'm kind of intrigued to see the final results of this... and if you want to tabulate all the lists and post a final result to the list, that is perfectly acceptable. However, everyone haphazardly firing their lists off to the Jam itself is not.
Laterz..... Matt T.
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:43:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Jens Johansson <jens@panix.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: DT'99 heaviness Message-ID: <Pine.GSU.4.05.9907311424400.8610-100000@panix2.panix.com>
> > > Some inside sources inform me that (as far as heaviness goes) the new > > > album will actually make Meshuggah sound like Britney Spears. ;) > > Trust me, NO ONE can make Meshuggah sound like Britney Spears! Especially > > not Dream Theater. > I know. I was just kidding. Hence the ;)
All I ask of the new Dream Theater album is that it doesn't make Britney Spears sound like Meshuggah!
(OTOH making B.S. sound more like M. would be kind of cool.. "Baby, fold, unfold, bend, shift color, one more time")
Jens. <jens@panix.com> (http://www.panix.com/~jens/)
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:40:10 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT'99 heaviness Message-ID: <199907311940.MAA12124@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., Joe DeAngelo thus begged: > >I said: >> > Some inside sources inform me that (as far as heaviness goes) the new >> > album will actually make Meshuggah sound like Britney Spears. ;) > >Andreas said: >> Trust me, NO ONE can make Meshuggah sound like Britney Spears! Especially >> not Dream Theater. > >I know. I was just kidding. Hence the ;) > > >Later, >-- > >- Joe DeAngelo > jdeangelo@home.com ICQ # 1872723 >-------------------------------------------- >"Our worlds collide, now in disguise > You'll feel the Wrath Divine > Tears of woe fall from the sky..." >- Symphony X, "The Divine Wings of Tragedy" >--------------------------------------------
I heard Britney Spears is talking to Dino Cazares about redoing Baby Hit Me One More Time...
;)
-The Doc
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:43:04 -0700 From: Jeremy Hyde <tempus@triton.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NO MORE TOP 10 LISTS! Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990731154304.007a0c60@mail.triton.net>
I don't post often, but I thought I must address this.
>From: EricPMetze@aol.com >Subject: The Greatest Songs of All Time > >This should be fun...
Yeah, and I bet it'll be fun once Skadz kicks your ass off the list for starting this.
>Name, in your opinions, the greatest songs of all time. Include any and all >songs that you feel are worthy of being listed as one of the greatest songs >and why. Don't let who wrote it, when they wrote it, what genre it is, or >even who has covered it since, influence your decision. Any more ground >rules anyone would like to add?
Excuse me if I'm wrong, but isn't there some sort of list rule against polls such as this (which is quite a bit like a top 10 list)? Ah, yes, there is. So, if any of you would like to express your feelings on the "Greatest Songs Of All Time" send your thoughts directly to Eric himself at EricPMetze@aol.com, rather than clog up the list.
Jeremy Hyde - tempus@triton.net http://www.lainet.com/~tempus
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Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 22:58:54 +0300 From: Yuval Regev <MCregev@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT Favourite Songs Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990802225854.007cbe00@192.168.0.1>
Matt T wrote:
>think what you're proposing is a bad idea... in fact, I'm kind of intrigued >to see the final results of this... and if you want to tabulate all the >lists and post a final result to the list, that is perfectly acceptable. >However, everyone haphazardly firing their lists off to the Jam itself is not.
Actualluy, I thought of this for quite sometime. However, I thought about making list of DT's favourite songs (And it will be cool if eriC will make a list of The Greatest Songs of All Times as well... That will be intresting...)
Anyway, Everyone - send me a list of your top 15 favourite song of DT (or majesty, all in all it IS DT) - and not in any particular order (I know I wouldn't be able to make such list). Also, arrange all DT's albums (WDaDU, I&W, Awake, ACoS, FII) in order from 1 (your favourite) to 5 (your least favourite - as we all know, none of them is not good).
Send it to my PRIVATE E-mail - mcregev@yahoo.com (With the subject: DT-fav). I'll give it a week, and I'll post the results.
Yuv
np: Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Tupelo
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:14:18 -0400 From: "Brandon S. Jessee" <branjispad@juno.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: No No No Message-ID: <19990731.161651.-107173.1.BranJisPAD@juno.com>
The Album may have some heavy stuff on it. What I am saying is: as you progress as a fine musician you find out: 1. Its all about the groove. 2. Everything else is secondary... Nothing is more evident than all the new stuff I've heard from them. Yes, I did catch LTE but that in its self is a crazy concept album vibe... It does groove pretty well at times and has some advanced grooves... I just say we'll see more Groove than Riff... =) ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:35:58 PDT From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NGSW Message-ID: <19990731203559.32481.qmail@hotmail.com>
starting monday I'm gonna be at the "National Guitar Summer Workshop" connecticut campus for a week. Any other 'jammers gonna be there? -Fran "Banjoman" Brennan np: Jaco Pastorius: Word of Mouth
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:57:06 PDT From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: cairo Message-ID: <19990731205706.64284.qmail@hotmail.com>
d'oh! i forgot to ask when I posted that last message, does anyone know if Cairo has a website? Or some other place I can find stuff about them like tour dates, etc? Fran "Banjoman" Brennan Still Playing: Jaco Pastorius-Word of Mouth
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:45:12 +0200 From: Count Zero <fivengrok@village.uunet.be> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: keyboard-help needed (absolutely NDTC) Message-ID: <37A36E68.2E7E1514@village.uunet.be>
Simon,
I agree with Damon on the listening part. Always listen to a keyboard before buying it, and I don't mean with headphones. Ask the store- people to hook it up to an amp, if they won't, they're not worth your money. As far as models are concerned, the Korg M1 is a decent board, although its sounds are dated. Give the newer Korg boards a listen, the N5EX or the N364/264. I bought the N5 for around $1000, and that's the Belgian price. I'm sure you could find it cheaper in the US. You ARE in the US, I assume? If you're still going for secondhand, try the Korg 01/W or the X-series (X3, X5, X5D). They use the same sound synthesis as the N-series, except the N's are 64 voice polyphonic, whereas the X's, except for the X5D, are only 32 voice. Hope this info helps, and while you're at it, if you wanna hear an N5 in action, download the two snippets on my website <--shameless plug
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:35:36 EDT From: QueEsDick@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT show Message-ID: <f25ac30b.24d4d438@aol.com>
Just wondering if anyone knows where i can get my hands on the 10/27/97 show from The Odeon in Cleveland, Oh. It is the only time I''ve ever seen DT live, and so I was hoping to find a copy somewhere.
Thanks
Nik
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:12:40 EDT From: "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5007 Message-ID: <19990731231241.47106.qmail@hotmail.com>
>Concerning the new DT album not being heavy at all....... > >Some inside sources inform me that (as far as heaviness goes) the new >album will actually make Meshuggah sound like Britney Spears. ;)
SOUND like Britney Spears? You mean she does music too? Wow! All this time, I thought she was just a pin up or somethin'. No wonder I get snickers about my windows background :)
But seriously, I've checked out her web pages, and downloaded the pics, and still never heard any of her songs. I like it better that way.
kevin
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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 01:24:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Ice Age Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9908010123150.27575-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Hiemstra wrote:
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> I just wanted to say that you all should try out Ice Age! > It sounds a lot like DT!
<HTML crap snipped> They do a little... Ice Age is a LOT heavier though
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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 01:30:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Ice Age Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9908010125080.27743-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Hiemstra wrote:
> I just wanted to say that you all should try out Ice Age! > It sounds a lot like DT!
Yeah they do a little. Ice Age is a LOT heavier though. Also, I don't really like the vocalist that much, he screams to much IMO. But anyway, if you like LTE-ish speedy metal you should definitely check them out... BTW,Ice Age must be the CD that took me the longest time to get into. It took me at least 4 or 5 listens before I really started to enjoy it.
Check out The Great Divide on Magna Charta
Cheers
Zaphod
NP: Ice Age - The Great Divide LTE - LTE 2 Dreamscape - Very
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:52:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org> To: Fran Brennan <okelnard@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: cairo Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9907312052030.24719-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> d'oh! i forgot to ask when I posted that last message, does anyone know if > Cairo has a website? Or some other place I can find stuff about them like > tour dates, etc?
Cairo's official website is at http://www.cairomusic.com
- mike.
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Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 03:12:22 +0200 From: Andreas Skarin - SDTS <skarre@2.sbbs.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: cairo Message-ID: <37A39EF6.5BA9D20A@2.sbbs.se>
Fran Brennan wrote:
> d'oh! i forgot to ask when I posted that last message, does anyone know= if > Cairo has a website? Or some other place I can find stuff about them li= ke > tour dates, etc?
Hey, here's a crazy idea: search the internet! ;o)
Cheers!
Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater S=E4llskapet http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:skarre@2.sbbs.se
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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 02:45:50 EDT From: CHAZRUSHAM@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dali's Dillema Message-ID: <89b30d4c.24d5471e@aol.com>
Now I just bought his one, and I guess it could be old news but, this cd is actually pretty rocking. I am definitely going to get a lot more into Magna's stuff
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