YTSEJAM Digest 5030
Today's Topics:
1) PMU ending/Tony MacAlpine
by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
2) RE: Psssst...Pass the Planet X
by "Mike Patrick" <mvpatrick@home.com>
3) RE: Psssst...Pass the Planet X
by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
4) Rush
by "Jeremy Kube" <kube@fullnet.net>
5) Mourningstar
by GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE
6) extrange similitude!!!
by "Jordi Gene Mateu" <merma@telcel.net.ve>
7) Re: Altura & Auditory Imagery
by "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
8) John Norum/Glenn Hughes
by DTGirl2612@aol.com
9) song question (NDTC)
by Belhai2112@aol.com
10) Re: mp3 revolution
by "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com>
11) Re: Some new abbreviations
by "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com>
12) Re: mp3 revolution
by Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com>
13) double sorry
by "Code LGF" <medley@sti.com.br>
14) drummers - check this
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
15) Re: drummers - check this
by Andreas Skarin - SDTS <skarre@2.sbbs.se>
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 12:43:48 +0200
From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: PMU ending/Tony MacAlpine
Message-ID: <v04210101b3dc45232587@[192.168.1.1]>
> >Oh, and I was listening closely to I&W today, did anybody notice that PMU
> >has a very abrupt ending?
>
>Yes. It was intentional. Sort of signifying Hamlet's death, yadda yadda...
Not quite. That ending was inspired by "I Want You (She's So Heavy)"
by The Beatles. I asked Mike about this once to confirm the Beatles
analogy, and he seemed to be a bit tired of this question ;-)
He said his usual answer was that they simply went out of tape. I
guess he never thought that exactly that would ever really happen to
him ("Three Minutes Warning"!)
>He plays violin huh? If he is anywhere near as good
>as Eddie Jobson I think they should get John Wetton
>on bass and vocals, and rename the band to U.K. II.
Well, Planet X sounds terribly like UK already, so that would be a
logical step ;-)
Steffen
-- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@dtifc.com) THE MIRROR - deutscher Dream Theater Fanclub (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)------------------------------
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 07:23:07 -0400 From: "Mike Patrick" <mvpatrick@home.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: Psssst...Pass the Planet X Message-ID: <000401bee710$8c86f3a0$6da20418@CT466024-A.nblvil1.in.home.com>
>> I'd like to second the call for any Planet X boots. > > I think Derek is planning on releasing some live > material... We'll see.
Yes, I forgot that this might be in the works. Given Tony M.'s involvement, I should think that the live material might be sufficiently different from the studio stuff to warrent some live stuff. It'll be interesting to see if that is done under Magna Carta or not...
>> I'm really surprised they've not shown up yet on >> Itchy's site or someone else's. > > You probably mean Bogie's site.
Did you hear that? That was the sound of Mike smacking himself in the forehead. Sorry Bogie.
Mike
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 14:35:39 +0200 From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: Psssst...Pass the Planet X Message-ID: <000e01bee71a$ae9949c0$0100007f@localhost>
Mike Patrick wrote:
>> You probably mean Bogie's site. > > Did you hear that? That was the sound of Mike smacking > himself in the forehead. Sorry Bogie.
You probably mean sorry Itchy. ;-)
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 12:35:59 -0500 From: "Jeremy Kube" <kube@fullnet.net> To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Rush Message-ID: <000501bee744$a3ef1660$306a67ce@jeremyku>
This must be totally false. Usually when a "big" band like Rush does a tour the tickets are sold by Ticketmaster, I checked the sight for ANYTHING Rush and there was nothing. Tsongas Arena in Lowell MA does 99.9% of their booking via Ticketmaster... there was no such date listed. This would be "HUGE" if it was a confirmed date, but my mind tells me otherwise. Later, J Jeremy Kube Oklahoma State University Fire Protection and Safety Engineering Technology Major inflammabl@aol.com kube@fullnet.net "Sex is Death, Death is Sex. It says it right here on my crucifix!" Dream Theater.
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 20:23 +0200 From: GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mourningstar Message-ID: <199908151823.gWjF@semagroup.sema.se>
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MOURNINGSTAR - Mourningstar SWEDEN Rating: * * * * March 1999 PRIVATE Running time: 25:06
Mourningstar are: Lead & Backing Vocals, Guitars - Magnus Florin Keyboards & Vocals - Alexander Orest Bass - Alexander Karlsson Drums & Backing Vocals - Rickard Eriksson
Tracklist: 1. Departure (8:44) 2. Domino Child (4:22) 3. Millennial Winter (12:01) Recorded & Mixed in Berghem Studios, on March 15th-16th 1999
Mourningstar are a Swedish progressive rock band that was founded in 1997. After a few line-up changes the band finally found today's setting. This is a demo-CD to present the band.
Their musical influences are Accept, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Dream Theater, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Glenn Hughes, Kansas, Marillion, Rush and Yes. Although many of their influences is found in the heavy metal and hardrock genre the music is closer to progressive rock, or the nowadays so widespread progressive metal. They could easily be filed under the same genre as such bands as Dream Theater, Shadow Gallery and Symphony X.
The most impressive musicians in the band are the guitarist Magnus Florin and the keyboard player Alexander Orest. Magnus has got a very fast riff technique that's rather impressive sometimes. He's also responsible for the vocals, and he's quite good at that too. He reminds me of a singer, but I can't figure out which one?
The first song is called "Departure" and it's my favourite track on this CD. It starts off with a very funny keyboard melody and a very fast guitar riff. The instrumental middle section of the song is very much in the Dream Theater vein. The instrumental passage ends up very jazzy and Magnus is brilliant on the guitar solos. A masterpiece!
"Domino Child" comes next and it's my least favourite. On this track the hardrock and heavy metal influences are shown. I know that this track advanced Mourningstar in a band contest, but it isn't exactly my cup of tea. If it weren't for this track I would have given the CD a five star rating. Don't get me wrong, because it isn't a bad song at all. The only thing is that it doesn't live up to the quality of the other two songs.
The third and final track is called "Millennial Winter" and it's the epic track with its 12 minutes. It's recorded live in Berghem Studios and it's showing the bands musical skills. It's nice to hear that the band is able play this quite intriguing song live.
Morningstar are equally good as other Swedish bands in the same genre, such as Hollow, Sanity, Timescape and Treasure Land. The front cover made by Mattias Nor=E9n is very nice. All in all this is an impressive debut and if they only stay together, it wouldn't surprise me if they could make it big. Recommended.
Band Mail: anthem@home.se Website: http://home.swipnet.se/mourningstar/
-Reviewed by Greger R=F6nnqvist-
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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:17:52 -0400 From: "Jordi Gene Mateu" <merma@telcel.net.ve> To: "DT Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: extrange similitude!!! Message-ID: <000d01beb269$e699c560$1f7423c8@jordigen>
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Jordi 1st Venezuelan DT Fan!!
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 16:24:59 -0400 From: "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Altura & Auditory Imagery Message-ID: <199908151320560@robpociluk.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
So what kind of music is Altura playing now? It's sad that they are sud= denly not into prog metal...and rather weird. I mean, one album and you= suddenly change your taste? They are far too talented to play basic al= ternative junk so I hope that's not the new direction.
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]From: Adam Saunders <coreysa@bellsouth.net> Sent: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:02:49 -0700 (PDT) To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Altura & Auditory Imagery
Hey Vince -
I'm friends with the guys in Altura. The last time I talked to them, th= ey were still a band, but not playing progressive metal anymore. They were no l= onger signed to Magna Carta, either.
As far as Auditory Imagery, they are a great band. I had a low budget v= ideo that they made for one of their songs. It was a little cheesy, but stil= l cool for an unsigned band.
> > Hey jammers, > > Just wondering if anyone knows whatever happened to Altura on Magna C= arta? > I have their only CD I believe called Mercy. =A0Are they still around= ? =A0Some > of their tunes were great and they showed some promise, like Alternat= e Lines > and Alone. > > Also, has anyone ever heard of Auditory Imagery? =A0They're an indie = band from > Avon, MA and I lost the only CD they had. =A0If you ever see it, pick= it up... > they're great!!! =A0Along the same lines as DT, Altura, etc... > > > Vince French
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 16:41:07 EDT From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: John Norum/Glenn Hughes Message-ID: <c74dc626.24e87fe3@aol.com>
Catching up with a backlog of jams after catching up with the solar eclipse in good ol' Blighty .......
>>Heard that John >>Norum made some solo albums after Europe split. How are they ? > >I like his solowork better than Europe.. <snip> Face the Truth
With Glenn Hughes doing some of the vox - excellent album. Glenn also co-wrote most of the songs. One song is a Hughes/Thrall composition called 'Still the Night' which I love and the cover of Thin Lizzy's 'Opium Trail' is pretty damn good too!
Anyone have more info about the expected new Hughes/Thrall album?
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 16:47:46 EDT From: Belhai2112@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: song question (NDTC) Message-ID: <6b4813d9.24e88172@aol.com>
Hey Folks:
I hope someone hear can help me find the name of a song that is currently being played on the radio. The beginning sounds very much like Nirvana, and during the chorus I think the singer says, "I can't love you anymore..." I didn't really hear the DJ say the name of the band afterwards, but I think he said the name of the song is "February sun" but I could be wrong. Does anyone know what the hell I'm talking about?
Thanks, Brandon
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 23:04:24 +0200 From: "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: mp3 revolution Message-ID: <199908152304240150.006F0F55@c3.hu>
H'llo
>From: "Nick Guadagnoli" <progrockboy@linkline.com> >Subject: mp3 revolution
>Yeah yeah yeah-- it's great to buy a CD and think that you're doing the artist a service, but the fact of the matter is that you spend $12 to $18 on a CD, and the artist only gets $2.50.
:-OOOO Damit! I did not know that. That's not much.:( I am shocked!
Bye
ZZZZZ
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 23:04:39 +0200 From: "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Some new abbreviations Message-ID: <199908152304390640.006F4BDE@c3.hu>
H'looo!
>From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> >Subject: Some new abbreviations
>These are pretty simple: PA stands for "public address" or, to be more >basic, the loudspeakers at a concert. A PA system is used for whenever >sound has to be played "to the public", as it were.
<snip>
Thanx for the infos man...:)
Aaaand gimmemoooore.:) What is AFAIK?
Bye
ZZZZZ
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 14:10:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Trent <cybertrent@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: mp3 revolution Message-ID: <19990815211003.10677.rocketmail@web501.yahoomail.com>
--- Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt <zeusz@bigfoot.com> wrote: > >Yeah yeah yeah-- it's great to buy a CD and think > that you're doing the > artist a service, but the fact of the matter is that > you spend $12 to $18 > on a CD, and the artist only gets $2.50. > > I did not know that. That's not much.:( > I am shocked!
That's an extravagent offer too. Alanis Morissette recieved $1 for every copy of 'Jagged Little Pill' sold, and that was considered to be a pretty generous offer such an unproven artist. I've heard of $.50 per copy sold, but I can't remember who got that... === *Trent
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 13:48:37 -0300 From: "Code LGF" <medley@sti.com.br> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: double sorry Message-ID: <003001bee674$de604b00$d631d4c8@medley>
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Ok, 1- sorry 'bout the new album stuff... i thought i was missisng = something 2- i found out i'm not the only brazilian in the jam. but that's really = cool, cuz i found other jammer here!!
hope everything's clear now
Carpe Diem Code LGF
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 01:15:05 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: drummers - check this Message-ID: <37B749F9.46B497BB@mol.com.mk>
Jesus Christ, I just heard a John Scofiled album called "Loud Jazz"!!! I know many of you know the drummer god Dennis Chambers, but do check him on this one too! This man is by far one of the best drummers I heard!
Also, I finally got Platypus recently (huh, what a news for all) and I LOVE IT! I really like Rod, I'll dare to say I prefer much more this style tham Mike's! :) Rod is more free in a way, more jamming oriented, similar like jazz drummers. Not that Mike is bad, but they have completely different styles!
As far Derek goes, IMHO, Platypus is THE Derek sound I want and expect to hear, not Planet X. Anyway, this is sick album!
NP: Toto - Mindsfield -- CyberDuke _________________________________________________
"What do you think about it?" "Shocking!" "Yeah, but do you think it was funny?" "Of course not! That would be REALLY shocking!"
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 02:57:24 +0200 From: Andreas Skarin - SDTS <skarre@2.sbbs.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: drummers - check this Message-ID: <37B761F4.BC06002B@2.sbbs.se>
CyberDuke wrote:
> Jesus Christ, I just heard a John Scofiled album called "Loud Jazz"!!! > I know many of you know the drummer god Dennis Chambers, but do check > him on this one too! This man is by far one of the best drummers I > heard!
If you like John Scofield you should check out Dave Weckl. I've only got one album with him ("Hard Wired") but it's really good! Youv'e probably already heard of him but in case you havn't, listen to CDnow's realaudio samples: http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=850615447/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.html/ArtistID=WECKL*DAVE/DDCN=SD-1110+9760+2
It's not much, but it's enough to hear what they sounds like.
Cheers!
Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater Sallskapet http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:skarre@2.sbbs.se
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