YTSEJAM Digest 5044
Today's Topics:
1) piece of mind :)
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
2) piece of mind :)
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
3) Re: We want big balls
by "Eric Clasen" <eclasen@hotmail.com>
4) Mullmuzzler
by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
5) Re: CDNow: Customer Revolt, Revolting Customer, Customering
by Gary Davis <artshop@artist-shop.com>
6) Type O on ticketbastard
by "Dave Peterson" <glyde@hotmail.com>
7) <NDTC> Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039 <NDTC>
by "Phil Carter" <phil@usefulware.com>
8) Re: We want big balls
by Jens Johansson <jens@panix.com>
9) RE: Mullmuzzler
by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
10) CDBaby
by RushLLP@aol.com
11) Re: <NDTC> Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039 <NDTC>
by Andreas Skarin <skarre@2.sbbs.se>
12) RE: <NDTC> Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039 <NDTC>
by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5043
by "indii" <indii@vistatech.net>
14) Everything I know about Sweden I learned in a beer commercial.
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
15) suscribe ytsejam aggressor@dreamtheater.zzn.com
by "chris herbst" <aggressor@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
16) Yahoo football
by "Christopher J. Cerminara" <savaytse66@psu.edu>
17) Summer Jazz Festival '99 in Macedonia
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
18) Paint it Black
by Matthew Turk <sataiwilco@usa.net>
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:03:19 -0500
From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: piece of mind :)
Message-ID: <37C51EF7.9C090260@isd.net>
IRON (Brian) HENDERSON wrote:
>I dunno about anyone else out there, but I'm planning on writing CDNow and
>giving 'em a piece of my mind. They should not have the option to preorder
Can you afford it? :)
Sorry, I couldn't resist. Love ya, Bro..
--
Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
^
Switchcraft Microsystems
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it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:03:10 -0500
From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: piece of mind :)
Message-ID: <37C51EEE.C567CB6@isd.net>
IRON (Brian) HENDERSON wrote:
>I dunno about anyone else out there, but I'm planning on writing CDNow and
>giving 'em a piece of my mind. They should not have the option to preorder
Can you afford it? :)
Sorry, I couldn't resist. Love ya, Bro..
--
Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
^
Switchcraft Microsystems
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When you live in the land of 10,000.00 lakes,
it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 05:41:42 PDT
From: "Eric Clasen" <eclasen@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: We want big balls
Message-ID: <19990826124143.49517.qmail@hotmail.com>
P.S. The outside doesn't necessarily have to be spherical, but it certainly
would look interesting. Imagine Portnoy pounding away through the 800 Lb.
snowmen of sound... Sitting in the corners of your living room :)
--Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
You mean your living room has corners? Mine is spherical! :)
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:12:44 +0200
From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Mullmuzzler
Message-ID: <v04210101b3eaeca56b98@[192.168.1.1]>
>by completely different people. The last song by Trent Gardner has a
>complete "Explorers Club" imprint all over it. I love the Guillory/LaBrie
Well, IMHO this is the best song Gardner ever made. Maybe it's James,
don't know, but I *really* dig it.
And I really like the artwork, mistake or not. What was the mistake
anyway? I mean, biting off another guy's ear, so what? That's not
more weird and obscure than a giant ear growing on a hill, is it? So
I took it for granted ;-)... What was it *supposed* to look like?
Steffen
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THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:21:51 -0400
From: Gary Davis <artshop@artist-shop.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: CDNow: Customer Revolt, Revolting Customer, Customering
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19990826132151.00bf2ee8@gwis.com>
At 02:49 AM 8/26/99 -0700, Brian wrote:
>Art Ellis wrote:
>
>>Did anybody else's copy of Mullmuzzler- "Keep It To Yourself" get
>>backordered with CDNow?
>
>Yep. And so did my copy of the new Jethro Tull album (dubiously titled
>"Dot.Com"). I ordered both about a month ago.
>
Gee, dare I mention that I actually have this in stock at The Artist Shop? ;-)
Gary
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:36:21 PDT
From: "Dave Peterson" <glyde@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Type O on ticketbastard
Message-ID: <19990826133621.61436.qmail@hotmail.com>
Just to drop a note about the Type O tour dates:
Most of the ones I posted are listed on www.ticketmaster.com, they all seem
to be going on sale on August 28th, and Chicago is one of the dates listed
at ticketmaster (to answer a previous post's question).
- Dr. Teeth
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:13:32 -0400
From: "Phil Carter" <phil@usefulware.com>
To: A Ytse of Seasons <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: <NDTC> Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039 <NDTC>
Message-ID: <4.1.19990826100614.0099d770@pop.usefulware.com>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Lisa vs. Andreas, round II. FIGHT!
>> Actually NO, that wasn't the only mistake in your instructions. Had you not
>> been such a fucking smart ass in your response to the guy (as usual), I
>> wouldn't have replied at all.
>
>The cold shower didn't help huh? Lisa, you need to turn your volume down a few
>notches, then tell me what else was wrong with my instructions.
Easy. You POSTED the instructions to the list, which is wrong for two reasons:
1) The rest of us on the Ytsejam don't need to see them;
2) The guy's as much as shown that he's irritated and tired of reading
ytsejams. Do you really think he's going to be reading the next ones
carefully, looking for a response?
>My response
>to the "take me off this list" guy was in no way offensive, and I think
>everyone but
>you realized that.
No. Your response WAS smart-ass. I quote:
>>Simple huh? What also would have been simple, was for you find this
>>out for yourself ;-)
Smiley or no smiley, somebody who's irritated and tired of receiving
ytsejams is not going take kindly to being told he couldn't figure out
something simple himself. What's more, maybe he COULD have found it out for
himself, but you made no mention of WHERE he could have found the
instructions.
>Try counseling Lisa, you have way to much aggression going on ;-)
And you have way too much of a holier-than-thou attitude going on. Give it
a rest.
cheers,
Phil
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:16:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jens Johansson <jens@panix.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: We want big balls
Message-ID: <Pine.GSU.4.05.9908261109410.15784-100000@panix2.panix.com>
On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Al @ Switchcraft wrote:
> I'd like to pick everyone's brain for a strange, but technically justifiable
> idea I have. I wish to make a speaker system that uses spherical cavities
> for the woofer and midrange drivers.
"Assume a spherical cow.. " :)
Why not, experiment! This is the spirit that got us onto the moon.
Acoustics won't tell you much: evidently the universe is nonlinear. And
mind is one of the most nonlinear wonders of the universe. And auditory
perception is one of the most nonlinear parts of mind. So with audio and
music problems, you'd best get empirical on their ass.. er I mean ears.
Good luck! :)
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:12:52 +0200
From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: Mullmuzzler
Message-ID: <000201beefdd$d90ef6c0$0100007f@localhost>
Steffen wrote:
> And I really like the artwork, mistake or not. What was the mistake
> anyway? I mean, biting off another guy's ear, so what? That's not
> more weird and obscure than a giant ear growing on a hill, is it? So
> I took it for granted ;-)... What was it *supposed* to look like?
The ear was supposed to be detached (like, floating in between
the two guys)... The guy on the right didn't bite off the ear,
but is actually trying to communicate with the guy on the left
(unsuccesfully, of course). I personally do think this mistake
matters, because it causes a misrepresentation of the album...
Mark Bredius
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:34:32 EDT
From: RushLLP@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: CDBaby
Message-ID: <8c161e30.24f6d4a8@aol.com>
Here's something quick and cool for those of you looking to check out VOICES
on CDBaby...
<< manu thanks for the interest in VOICES.
Just go here... you will be pro served and will save A LOT of money in
shipping....
stay tuned
Simone
(you should also try Evil Wings and Moon of Steel)
http://cdbaby.com/dreamt
http://cdbaby.com/moonsteel
http://cdbaby.com/evilwings >>
.My band, How to Build a Rocketship, is this week's "recommended CD" at
CDBaby (the CD is called "Thank You Easter Bunny"). Of course, I encourage
you to check out the song clips, and also, buy the CD...
--Matthew Calabresi
How to Build a Rocketship
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:12:42 +0200
From: Andreas Skarin <skarre@2.sbbs.se>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: <NDTC> Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039 <NDTC>
Message-ID: <37C5ADCA.277E0291@2.sbbs.se>
Phil Carter wrote:
> Easy. You POSTED the instructions to the list, which is wrong for two reasons:
>
> 1) The rest of us on the Ytsejam don't need to see them;
Unfortunately, your post falls in the same category as the one you are reffering
to. And so does this one, but I'm never the first one to take a flame war to
personal e-mail. When you critizise me publicly I'm obligated to reply publicaly to
avoid other jammers missinterpretation of who's right :-)
> 2) The guy's as much as shown that he's irritated and tired of reading
> ytsejams. Do you really think he's going to be reading the next ones
> carefully, looking for a response?
I couldn't care less if he reads it or not! I only tried to provide a solution to
the problem, which could also be useful for future unsubscribers. Though I'm not
sure what Lisa's problem is. I admitted I forgot the "un" and she goes nuclear on
me. If you and Lisa can't handle a little irony and humor I suggest you get of the
jam. I also had a problem with irony before, but I learned to accept it for what it
is.
> >My response
> >to the "take me off this list" guy was in no way offensive, and I think
> >everyone but
> >you realized that.
>
> No. Your response WAS smart-ass. I quote:
I never said it wasn't smart-ass! I said it wasn't offensive, there is a
considerable difference.
> Smiley or no smiley, somebody who's irritated and tired of receiving
> ytsejams is not going take kindly to being told he couldn't figure out
> something simple himself.
I think the advise about getting off if you can't handle it, applies to that guy
too.
> What's more, maybe he COULD have found it out for
> himself, but you made no mention of WHERE he could have found the
> instructions.
A Dream Theater fan with an Internet connection who doesn't know about UACM is
<OBS>IMHO</OBS> a very, very stupid person. I can't take the responsablity of
teaching people how to use a search engine. I don't like unintelligent people. No
offense to anyone, but that's how I feel.
> And you have way too much of a holier-than-thou attitude going on. Give it
> a rest.
Not holier, just more intelligent :-)
Cheers!
Andreas Skarin
Svenska Dream Theater Sallskapet
http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:skarre@2.sbbs.se
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:24:57 +0200
From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: <NDTC> Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039 <NDTC>
Message-ID: <001901bef009$72921220$0100007f@localhost>
Andreas Skarin wrote:
> Though I'm not sure what Lisa's problem is.
Look in the mirror my friend.
Mark Bredius
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:00:49 -0400
From: "indii" <indii@vistatech.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5043
Message-ID: <001701bef00e$7561baa0$8783cbcf@matts>
I posted earlier about "Paint it Black" (thanks to everyone who responded!)
Now i have another question. Which is the best version of the song (ie which
one sounds like the Doors!) I checked out CDconnection for the song and got
about 50 different cd's with the song on it (only 4 or 5 were Rolling
Stones'). Now, i would assume that the Aftermath version would be the best,
but that's not always the case. If God did the version that was on the
trailer of Stir of Echoes, then that would be the one i want, cause it
sounds just like the Doors IMHO. Now, sometimes when they make trailers they
tend to use the original song for it, so as not to reveal the cover song
till you see the movie. If anyone has seen this and knows which version this
is email me. There were also about 15 other bands who covered "Paint It
Black" including W.A.S.P. and Deep Purple. I'm not really a big Rolling
Stones fan, so i don't want to buy 3 or 4 cd's just to get that one version
(but i don't know if the 'best of' albums use the same version or if they
change it a little (like the Doors did on "Greatest Hits" with the
"Apocalypse Now" version)). If any of you guys really wanted to help me out
a little you could send me a 45 sec clip of whatever version you have
(please start from the beginning and not the middle of the song) so i could
figure it out myself. Either way, thanks for the past help and the future
help.
indii
IM indii 20
icq 20280371
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 16:33:21 -0600
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Everything I know about Sweden I learned in a beer commercial.
Message-ID: <001a01b83661$1ddf7500$0201010a@chuck.meserver.com>
>Unfortunately, your post falls in the same category as the one you are
>to. And so does this one, but I'm never the first one to take a flame war
Yah, so stick that in your infantile bubble pipe and smoke it, Phil Carter!
You damn newbies need to leave poor Andreas alone! ;)
>I couldn't care less if he reads it or not!
Then why post it (incorrectly, to boot) here in the first place?
"HA! I will stun the audience with my amazing wit! Watch carefully now as
I demonstrate my immunity to arsenic! Ah! *drops dead*"
>I never said it wasn't smart-ass! I said it wasn't offensive
"I say, I didn't inhale. I was only demonstrating at the time that anyone,
yes, even the future president could be susceptible to drug use. Yeah...
That sounds good... Pass that bowl over here, Tipper..."
Now I shall demonstrate my inate ability to speak Swedish!
Vhet zee Hell ere-a yuoo dueeng in Svedee? Yuoo suoond joost leeke-a Beell
Cleentun, beseecelly useeng beeg vurds thet du nutheeng mure-a thun ettempt
tu cufer yuoo oovn ess. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Yuoo hefe-a a footoore-a in
Emereecun puleetics, my buy, um de hur de hur!
--
KorgX3 sends Andreas a homemade lutefisk care package.
NP: Yanni - Street Level.mp3, bork bork bork!
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:59:08 -0400
From: "chris herbst" <aggressor@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: suscribe ytsejam aggressor@dreamtheater.zzn.com
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:29:54 -0400
From: "Christopher J. Cerminara" <savaytse66@psu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Yahoo football
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19990826202734.00a1dbe0@email.psu.edu>
It turns out I am too late to join the fantasy football league Pat created,
so I decided to create another league for those of you in the same boat I
am. I hope we can get a second full league!
League ID: 50986
Password: jordan
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 02:53:02 +0200
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Summer Jazz Festival '99 in Macedonia
Message-ID: <37C5E16E.6E7EAF82@mol.com.mk>
Just came back from the first night of the Jazz festival.
The Toni Kitanovski Trio was more classic jazz oriented! Very similar to
John Scofield. The drummer was crazy! He studied drums at Berkeley and
finished 2 years in 1! Toni is also Berkeley graduate!
R.M. Tochak Trio was very good. He was the guitarist of the legendary
band SMAK in ex-YU, they played crazy jazz rock/hard rock/blues type of
music! This guy is so unique, you have to see it! He has this funny
finger picking technique, without a pick!!! It's just amazing to see him
does those rock solos without a pick.
And the music was story for itself! Rock at its finest, but way way more
progressive and interesting. Hard Rock mixed with jazz, in a more
inteligent form
Vlatko Stefanovski Trio blasted in few jazz/ethno rock songs from their
new album. The sound was very good and loud, and it rocked the house.
These songs has so much raw power played live! Jaco, you should've been
there. :) Me and Ljupcho joked that if you were there watching the
tornado called Vlatko you would freak out!!! :)
He shredded like crazy, he even became boring with it! :) He really ate
the guitar tonight.
The bass solo was spectatular too. Once upon a time there was Stanley
Clarke and this is a whole new world! ;)
I guess it was planned that they be the highlight of the event, even
though I think Tochak deserved it better! We all know Vlatko here so
it's not a big deal, but Tochak is a living legend. But anyway, he did
his job great. And oh boy, Tochak said SMAK will come in Macedonia for a
concert! It will be one SICK gig I tell ya! This band really has unique
style, very interesting arrangements.
Tommorow a Bulgarian Teodosi Spasov is performing, which is said to be
awesome kaval player. Also the Macedonian bands DD Synthesis (featuring
their new album) and Anastasia! I'll be glad if some of you remember
Anastasia and the movie BEFORE THE RAIN, nominated for Oscar as best
foreign movie few years ago! Anastasi wrote the music for it! Dutch
jammers might know them for their gigs in Denmark too!
All nights are very good but I can't go them all! :( I hieo I'll catch
one night more though
Sorry for posting this here, but there ARE few folks whoi are familiar
with this music so ...
Actually I wanted to ask Adam or someone if it's possible to upload some
stuff and let jammers hear it! Vlatko has some really great stuf, and
his old band Leb i Sol too. I would really like to share this with
jammers if possible.
--
CyberDuke
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"Shocking!"
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Date: 26 Aug 99 21:45:43 EDT
From: Matthew Turk <sataiwilco@usa.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Paint it Black
Message-ID: <19990827014543.12061.qmail@www0s.netaddress.usa.net>
>> And also covered by Grip Inc. and Rage
Don't forget U2, who covered it on the single for One. I liked their
version better than the Stones, even though they don't have a sitar.
But, then again, I like their versions of Unchained Melody and Everlastin=
g
Love much better than the originals as well...
mjt
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