YTSEJAM digest 5044

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Date: Thu Aug 26 1999 - 21:53:58 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) piece of mind :)
     by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
      2) piece of mind :)
     by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
      3) Re: We want big balls
     by "Eric Clasen" <eclasen@hotmail.com>
      4) Mullmuzzler
     by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
      5) Re: CDNow: Customer Revolt, Revolting Customer, Customering
     by Gary Davis <artshop@artist-shop.com>
      6) Type O on ticketbastard
     by "Dave Peterson" <glyde@hotmail.com>
      7) <NDTC> Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039 <NDTC>
     by "Phil Carter" <phil@usefulware.com>
      8) Re: We want big balls
     by Jens Johansson <jens@panix.com>
      9) RE: Mullmuzzler
     by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
     10) CDBaby
     by RushLLP@aol.com
     11) Re: <NDTC> Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039 <NDTC>
     by Andreas Skarin <skarre@2.sbbs.se>
     12) RE: <NDTC> Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039 <NDTC>
     by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
     13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5043
     by "indii" <indii@vistatech.net>
     14) Everything I know about Sweden I learned in a beer commercial.
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
     15) suscribe ytsejam aggressor@dreamtheater.zzn.com
     by "chris herbst" <aggressor@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
     16) Yahoo football
     by "Christopher J. Cerminara" <savaytse66@psu.edu>
     17) Summer Jazz Festival '99 in Macedonia
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
     18) Paint it Black
     by Matthew Turk <sataiwilco@usa.net>

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    Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:03:19 -0500
    From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
    To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: piece of mind :)
    Message-ID: <37C51EF7.9C090260@isd.net>

    IRON (Brian) HENDERSON wrote:
    >I dunno about anyone else out there, but I'm planning on writing CDNow and
    >giving 'em a piece of my mind. They should not have the option to preorder

    Can you afford it? :)

     Sorry, I couldn't resist. Love ya, Bro..

    --
    Al -  The Ytse-ProGtologist
                               ^
    Switchcraft Microsystems
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    When you live in the land of 10,000.00 lakes,
    it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
    

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    Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:03:10 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: piece of mind :) Message-ID: <37C51EEE.C567CB6@isd.net>

    IRON (Brian) HENDERSON wrote: >I dunno about anyone else out there, but I'm planning on writing CDNow and >giving 'em a piece of my mind. They should not have the option to preorder

    Can you afford it? :)

    Sorry, I couldn't resist. Love ya, Bro..

    -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000.00 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.

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    Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 05:41:42 PDT From: "Eric Clasen" <eclasen@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: We want big balls Message-ID: <19990826124143.49517.qmail@hotmail.com>

    P.S. The outside doesn't necessarily have to be spherical, but it certainly would look interesting. Imagine Portnoy pounding away through the 800 Lb. snowmen of sound... Sitting in the corners of your living room :)

    --Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist

    You mean your living room has corners? Mine is spherical! :)

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    Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:12:44 +0200 From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Mullmuzzler Message-ID: <v04210101b3eaeca56b98@[192.168.1.1]>

    >by completely different people. The last song by Trent Gardner has a >complete "Explorers Club" imprint all over it. I love the Guillory/LaBrie

    Well, IMHO this is the best song Gardner ever made. Maybe it's James, don't know, but I *really* dig it.

    And I really like the artwork, mistake or not. What was the mistake anyway? I mean, biting off another guy's ear, so what? That's not more weird and obscure than a giant ear growing on a hill, is it? So I took it for granted ;-)... What was it *supposed* to look like?

    Steffen -- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@dtifc.com) THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)

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    Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:21:51 -0400 From: Gary Davis <artshop@artist-shop.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: CDNow: Customer Revolt, Revolting Customer, Customering Message-ID: <2.2.32.19990826132151.00bf2ee8@gwis.com>

    At 02:49 AM 8/26/99 -0700, Brian wrote: >Art Ellis wrote: > >>Did anybody else's copy of Mullmuzzler- "Keep It To Yourself" get >>backordered with CDNow? > >Yep. And so did my copy of the new Jethro Tull album (dubiously titled >"Dot.Com"). I ordered both about a month ago. >

    Gee, dare I mention that I actually have this in stock at The Artist Shop? ;-)

    Gary

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    Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:36:21 PDT From: "Dave Peterson" <glyde@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Type O on ticketbastard Message-ID: <19990826133621.61436.qmail@hotmail.com>

    Just to drop a note about the Type O tour dates:

    Most of the ones I posted are listed on www.ticketmaster.com, they all seem to be going on sale on August 28th, and Chicago is one of the dates listed at ticketmaster (to answer a previous post's question).

    - Dr. Teeth

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    Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:13:32 -0400 From: "Phil Carter" <phil@usefulware.com> To: A Ytse of Seasons <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: <NDTC> Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039 <NDTC> Message-ID: <4.1.19990826100614.0099d770@pop.usefulware.com>

    Greetings ye 'jamanoids...

    Lisa vs. Andreas, round II. FIGHT! >> Actually NO, that wasn't the only mistake in your instructions. Had you not >> been such a fucking smart ass in your response to the guy (as usual), I >> wouldn't have replied at all. > >The cold shower didn't help huh? Lisa, you need to turn your volume down a few >notches, then tell me what else was wrong with my instructions.

    Easy. You POSTED the instructions to the list, which is wrong for two reasons:

    1) The rest of us on the Ytsejam don't need to see them; 2) The guy's as much as shown that he's irritated and tired of reading ytsejams. Do you really think he's going to be reading the next ones carefully, looking for a response?

    >My response >to the "take me off this list" guy was in no way offensive, and I think >everyone but >you realized that.

    No. Your response WAS smart-ass. I quote:

    >>Simple huh? What also would have been simple, was for you find this >>out for yourself ;-)

    Smiley or no smiley, somebody who's irritated and tired of receiving ytsejams is not going take kindly to being told he couldn't figure out something simple himself. What's more, maybe he COULD have found it out for himself, but you made no mention of WHERE he could have found the instructions.

    >Try counseling Lisa, you have way to much aggression going on ;-)

    And you have way too much of a holier-than-thou attitude going on. Give it a rest.

    cheers, Phil

    ================================================ Phil Carter -- Usefulware Production Department phil@usefulware.com / 770-424-2525 ext. 207 Visit http://www.usefulware.com/ for ConnectionMagic for ISPs "I never should have written all those tank programs." -- Kevin Flynn, "Tron"

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    Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:16:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Jens Johansson <jens@panix.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: We want big balls Message-ID: <Pine.GSU.4.05.9908261109410.15784-100000@panix2.panix.com>

    On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Al @ Switchcraft wrote:

    > I'd like to pick everyone's brain for a strange, but technically justifiable > idea I have. I wish to make a speaker system that uses spherical cavities > for the woofer and midrange drivers.

    "Assume a spherical cow.. " :)

    Why not, experiment! This is the spirit that got us onto the moon. Acoustics won't tell you much: evidently the universe is nonlinear. And mind is one of the most nonlinear wonders of the universe. And auditory perception is one of the most nonlinear parts of mind. So with audio and music problems, you'd best get empirical on their ass.. er I mean ears. Good luck! :)

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    Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:12:52 +0200 From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: Mullmuzzler Message-ID: <000201beefdd$d90ef6c0$0100007f@localhost>

    Steffen wrote:

    > And I really like the artwork, mistake or not. What was the mistake > anyway? I mean, biting off another guy's ear, so what? That's not > more weird and obscure than a giant ear growing on a hill, is it? So > I took it for granted ;-)... What was it *supposed* to look like?

    The ear was supposed to be detached (like, floating in between the two guys)... The guy on the right didn't bite off the ear, but is actually trying to communicate with the guy on the left (unsuccesfully, of course). I personally do think this mistake matters, because it causes a misrepresentation of the album...

    Mark Bredius _______________________________________________________ Under A Cyber Moon - The Official Dream Theater Website http://www.dreamtheater.net/ E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org *** Join the FREE weekly Dream Theater newsletter ! *** Send email to <uacm-subscribe@egroups.com> to subscribe

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    Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:34:32 EDT From: RushLLP@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: CDBaby Message-ID: <8c161e30.24f6d4a8@aol.com>

    Here's something quick and cool for those of you looking to check out VOICES on CDBaby...

    << manu thanks for the interest in VOICES. Just go here... you will be pro served and will save A LOT of money in shipping.... stay tuned Simone (you should also try Evil Wings and Moon of Steel) http://cdbaby.com/dreamt http://cdbaby.com/moonsteel http://cdbaby.com/evilwings >>

    .My band, How to Build a Rocketship, is this week's "recommended CD" at CDBaby (the CD is called "Thank You Easter Bunny"). Of course, I encourage you to check out the song clips, and also, buy the CD...

    --Matthew Calabresi How to Build a Rocketship

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    Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:12:42 +0200 From: Andreas Skarin <skarre@2.sbbs.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: <NDTC> Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039 <NDTC> Message-ID: <37C5ADCA.277E0291@2.sbbs.se>

    Phil Carter wrote:

    > Easy. You POSTED the instructions to the list, which is wrong for two reasons: > > 1) The rest of us on the Ytsejam don't need to see them;

    Unfortunately, your post falls in the same category as the one you are reffering to. And so does this one, but I'm never the first one to take a flame war to personal e-mail. When you critizise me publicly I'm obligated to reply publicaly to avoid other jammers missinterpretation of who's right :-)

    > 2) The guy's as much as shown that he's irritated and tired of reading > ytsejams. Do you really think he's going to be reading the next ones > carefully, looking for a response?

    I couldn't care less if he reads it or not! I only tried to provide a solution to the problem, which could also be useful for future unsubscribers. Though I'm not sure what Lisa's problem is. I admitted I forgot the "un" and she goes nuclear on me. If you and Lisa can't handle a little irony and humor I suggest you get of the jam. I also had a problem with irony before, but I learned to accept it for what it is.

    > >My response > >to the "take me off this list" guy was in no way offensive, and I think > >everyone but > >you realized that. > > No. Your response WAS smart-ass. I quote:

    I never said it wasn't smart-ass! I said it wasn't offensive, there is a considerable difference.

    > Smiley or no smiley, somebody who's irritated and tired of receiving > ytsejams is not going take kindly to being told he couldn't figure out > something simple himself.

    I think the advise about getting off if you can't handle it, applies to that guy too.

    > What's more, maybe he COULD have found it out for > himself, but you made no mention of WHERE he could have found the > instructions.

    A Dream Theater fan with an Internet connection who doesn't know about UACM is <OBS>IMHO</OBS> a very, very stupid person. I can't take the responsablity of teaching people how to use a search engine. I don't like unintelligent people. No offense to anyone, but that's how I feel.

    > And you have way too much of a holier-than-thou attitude going on. Give it > a rest.

    Not holier, just more intelligent :-)

    Cheers!

    Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater Sallskapet http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:skarre@2.sbbs.se

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    Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:24:57 +0200 From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: <NDTC> Re: YTSEJAM digest 5039 <NDTC> Message-ID: <001901bef009$72921220$0100007f@localhost>

    Andreas Skarin wrote:

    > Though I'm not sure what Lisa's problem is.

    Look in the mirror my friend.

    Mark Bredius

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    Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:00:49 -0400 From: "indii" <indii@vistatech.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5043 Message-ID: <001701bef00e$7561baa0$8783cbcf@matts>

    I posted earlier about "Paint it Black" (thanks to everyone who responded!) Now i have another question. Which is the best version of the song (ie which one sounds like the Doors!) I checked out CDconnection for the song and got about 50 different cd's with the song on it (only 4 or 5 were Rolling Stones'). Now, i would assume that the Aftermath version would be the best, but that's not always the case. If God did the version that was on the trailer of Stir of Echoes, then that would be the one i want, cause it sounds just like the Doors IMHO. Now, sometimes when they make trailers they tend to use the original song for it, so as not to reveal the cover song till you see the movie. If anyone has seen this and knows which version this is email me. There were also about 15 other bands who covered "Paint It Black" including W.A.S.P. and Deep Purple. I'm not really a big Rolling Stones fan, so i don't want to buy 3 or 4 cd's just to get that one version (but i don't know if the 'best of' albums use the same version or if they change it a little (like the Doors did on "Greatest Hits" with the "Apocalypse Now" version)). If any of you guys really wanted to help me out a little you could send me a 45 sec clip of whatever version you have (please start from the beginning and not the middle of the song) so i could figure it out myself. Either way, thanks for the past help and the future help.

    indii IM indii 20 icq 20280371

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    Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 16:33:21 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Everything I know about Sweden I learned in a beer commercial. Message-ID: <001a01b83661$1ddf7500$0201010a@chuck.meserver.com>

    >Unfortunately, your post falls in the same category as the one you are >to. And so does this one, but I'm never the first one to take a flame war

    Yah, so stick that in your infantile bubble pipe and smoke it, Phil Carter! You damn newbies need to leave poor Andreas alone! ;)

    >I couldn't care less if he reads it or not!

    Then why post it (incorrectly, to boot) here in the first place? "HA! I will stun the audience with my amazing wit! Watch carefully now as I demonstrate my immunity to arsenic! Ah! *drops dead*"

    >I never said it wasn't smart-ass! I said it wasn't offensive

    "I say, I didn't inhale. I was only demonstrating at the time that anyone, yes, even the future president could be susceptible to drug use. Yeah... That sounds good... Pass that bowl over here, Tipper..."

    Now I shall demonstrate my inate ability to speak Swedish! Vhet zee Hell ere-a yuoo dueeng in Svedee? Yuoo suoond joost leeke-a Beell Cleentun, beseecelly useeng beeg vurds thet du nutheeng mure-a thun ettempt tu cufer yuoo oovn ess. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Yuoo hefe-a a footoore-a in Emereecun puleetics, my buy, um de hur de hur! -- KorgX3 sends Andreas a homemade lutefisk care package. NP: Yanni - Street Level.mp3, bork bork bork!

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    Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:59:08 -0400 From: "chris herbst" <aggressor@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: suscribe ytsejam aggressor@dreamtheater.zzn.com Message-ID: <199908261656564@aggressor.dreamtheater.zzn.com>

    suscribe ytsejam aggressor@dreamtheater.zzn.com

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    Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:29:54 -0400 From: "Christopher J. Cerminara" <savaytse66@psu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Yahoo football Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19990826202734.00a1dbe0@email.psu.edu>

    It turns out I am too late to join the fantasy football league Pat created, so I decided to create another league for those of you in the same boat I am. I hope we can get a second full league!

    League ID: 50986 Password: jordan

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    Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 02:53:02 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Summer Jazz Festival '99 in Macedonia Message-ID: <37C5E16E.6E7EAF82@mol.com.mk>

    Just came back from the first night of the Jazz festival.

    The Toni Kitanovski Trio was more classic jazz oriented! Very similar to John Scofield. The drummer was crazy! He studied drums at Berkeley and finished 2 years in 1! Toni is also Berkeley graduate!

    R.M. Tochak Trio was very good. He was the guitarist of the legendary band SMAK in ex-YU, they played crazy jazz rock/hard rock/blues type of music! This guy is so unique, you have to see it! He has this funny finger picking technique, without a pick!!! It's just amazing to see him does those rock solos without a pick. And the music was story for itself! Rock at its finest, but way way more progressive and interesting. Hard Rock mixed with jazz, in a more inteligent form

    Vlatko Stefanovski Trio blasted in few jazz/ethno rock songs from their new album. The sound was very good and loud, and it rocked the house. These songs has so much raw power played live! Jaco, you should've been there. :) Me and Ljupcho joked that if you were there watching the tornado called Vlatko you would freak out!!! :)

    He shredded like crazy, he even became boring with it! :) He really ate the guitar tonight. The bass solo was spectatular too. Once upon a time there was Stanley Clarke and this is a whole new world! ;) I guess it was planned that they be the highlight of the event, even though I think Tochak deserved it better! We all know Vlatko here so it's not a big deal, but Tochak is a living legend. But anyway, he did his job great. And oh boy, Tochak said SMAK will come in Macedonia for a concert! It will be one SICK gig I tell ya! This band really has unique style, very interesting arrangements.

    Tommorow a Bulgarian Teodosi Spasov is performing, which is said to be awesome kaval player. Also the Macedonian bands DD Synthesis (featuring their new album) and Anastasia! I'll be glad if some of you remember Anastasia and the movie BEFORE THE RAIN, nominated for Oscar as best foreign movie few years ago! Anastasi wrote the music for it! Dutch jammers might know them for their gigs in Denmark too!

    All nights are very good but I can't go them all! :( I hieo I'll catch one night more though

    Sorry for posting this here, but there ARE few folks whoi are familiar with this music so ...

    Actually I wanted to ask Adam or someone if it's possible to upload some stuff and let jammers hear it! Vlatko has some really great stuf, and his old band Leb i Sol too. I would really like to share this with jammers if possible. -- CyberDuke ________________________________________________

    "What do you think about it?" "Shocking!" "Yeah, but do you think it was funny?" "Of course not! That would be REALLY shocking!"

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    Date: 26 Aug 99 21:45:43 EDT From: Matthew Turk <sataiwilco@usa.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Paint it Black Message-ID: <19990827014543.12061.qmail@www0s.netaddress.usa.net>

    >> And also covered by Grip Inc. and Rage

    Don't forget U2, who covered it on the single for One. I liked their version better than the Stones, even though they don't have a sitar. But, then again, I like their versions of Unchained Melody and Everlastin= g Love much better than the originals as well...

    mjt

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