YTSEJAM digest 5245

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Sat Dec 25 1999 - 03:38:17 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 5245

    Today's Topics:

      1) re: Cairo, Spock's Beard, Heather Nova, etc.
     by "Tuomas Kourula" <kourula@saunalahti.fi>
      2) Next Superior demo
     by Bernd.Basmer@t-online.de (Bernd Basmer)
      3) Re: Re: [Parallels] Albums of 1999 - Retrospective of sorts...
     by "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
      4) The Ladder
     by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
      5) ke lo watz
     by Frank Velez <apyfc@usa.net>
      6) Happy Holidays and stuff
     by O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net>
      7) Twas the Scene from a Memory...
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
      8) Re: [Parallels] Albums of 1999 - Retrospective of sorts...
     by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
      9) no censorship on the jam. Sorry.
     by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
     10) Band on Leno (the show with Robin WIlliams?)
     by O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net>
     11) people people
     by Dustro2@aol.com
     12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5244
     by "stan tyszka" <drumguy@uscom.com>
     13) Concerts
     by Dustro2@aol.com
     14) Re: Twas the Scene from a Memory...
     by "Timo Virkkala" <wt@nic.fi>
     15) Here We Go With The Moanjam Once Again.........
     by Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au>
     16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5244
     by DoubleJay54@aol.com
     17) Re: On Chroma Key
     by JamesAhab@aol.com
     18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5244
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
     19) Happy, happy
     by "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com>
     20) A welcome present
     by "DarkHarmony" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu>
     21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5244
     by Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
     22) Re: On Chroma Key
     by Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
     23) Merry Christmas
     by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:48:02 +0200
    From: "Tuomas Kourula" <kourula@saunalahti.fi>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: re: Cairo, Spock's Beard, Heather Nova, etc.
    Message-ID: <000b01bf4dec$36d347e0$467fc5c3@wingate>

    >(3) Heather Nova - _Siren_ - Perhaps a bit poppy, but wow are these =
    songs
    >*catchy*, not to mention the lyrics are great. I've heard "London Rain
    >(Nothing Heals Me Like You Do)" prior, but uh, it doesn't do this =
    artist
    >justice. Her songs are incredibly poignant.

    That's the most incredible thing I've ever read on the 'Jam!

    For years Heather Nova has been my favorite artist, but I never=20
    thought it worthwhile to write to YtseJam about her, her music=20
    being totally (to say the least) different from DT.

    I have everything she's released, and because you said you=20
    liked Siren, I must recommend strongly her previous album=20
    Oyster. It's darker and sadder, and to me even more poignant=20
    than Siren. And she's already demoed songs for her=20
    upcoming disc!

    Also to add to the ongoing "most moving song" thread: the top
    20 in that category for me would be all Heather.

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:57:37 +0100
    From: Bernd.Basmer@t-online.de (Bernd Basmer)
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Next Superior demo
    Message-ID: <4.1.19991224115647.0095ed30@pop.btx.dtag.de>

    Hey!

    The 3rd Superior demo is up now... a heavy one this time... :)

    MERRY X-MAS and all!! :)))

    Bernd

    --------------------------------------------------------------
      Bernd Basmer
      Guitar - Superior

      For info about Superior look at http://www.free-minded.de/

    --------------------------------------------------------------
    If you're good you solve your problems.
    If you're better you have none.

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 99 08:51:37 -0500
    From: "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Re: [Parallels] Albums of 1999 - Retrospective of sorts...
    Message-ID: <045BE79B3C9B3D11DA4C0005B8E831CD@robpociluk.dreamtheater.zzn.com>

    Nobody asked but here's my top 10 from 1999 in order:

    1. Yes-The Ladder
    2. Toto-Mindfields
    3. Dream Theater-Metropolis pt 2
    4. Tiles-Presents of Mind
    5. Black Crowes-By Your Side
    6. Day For Night-Spock's Beard
    7. A Story Two Days Wide...-Iluvatar
    8. Liquid Tension Experiment 2
    9. FLower Kings-Flower Power
    10. Dali's Dilemma-Manifesto for Futurism

    The ones that just missed:
    Mullmuzzler-Keep It To Yourself
    Derek Sherinian-Planet X
    Primus-Antipop
    Crimson Glory-Astronomica
    Cheap Trick-Music For Hangovers
    Marillion-Marillion.com
    Def Leppard-Euphoria
    I Mother Earth-Blue Green Orange
    Styx-Brave New World
    DC Cooper-DC Cooper
    Queensryche-Q2K
    Dokken-Erase The Slate

    And yes I know I missed some!
    Seasons greetings!
    Rob

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 07:48:40 -0600
    From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
    To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: The Ladder
    Message-ID: <386379B8.96B01A83@isd.net>

       OK.. So I'm wondering around my local 24-hour Wal-mart in the wee hours
    of the morning... Doing some last minute Christmas shopping. (As always)
    As I stroll through their painfully limited music department, (Looking for
    some lame CD the daughter wants) I happened to notice they had "The
    Ladder" by YES. Well I didn't, and that just didn't seem right. Now I'm
    working with limited funds this late in the game, and I've already spent
    $300.00 more than I had planned this year... Decisions decisions decisions..
    I thought: Aw fuck it, the shirts were on sale.. :)

       After my detour to White Castle, <cringe> (for my monthly digestive systems
    stress test) I returned home for some 5:00 AM package wrapping fun. Yuk..
    I placed the disc in the player and sat down to start wrapping gifts. By the
    fourth track I had entered a musically induced stupor. (with a little help :)
    I stopped wrapping (not Rapping) and really began to focus on the music...
    The Ladder is truly a great album. It's very fresh and enjoyable. I was so pleased
    it didn't sound like another tired band trying to milk another buck from their
    geriatric fan base. ANY 70s era YES, or Spocks Beard fan would LOVE this CD.

       Anyway.. Time to see if I can get my fat ass down the chimney. :)

    Merry Christmas!

    --
    Al -  The Ytse-ProGtologist
                               ^
    Switchcraft Microsystems
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    You come into the world headfirst. You go out feet first.
    Everything in between is a matter of balance.
    

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    Date: 24 Dec 99 06:59:20 MST From: Frank Velez <apyfc@usa.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: ke lo watz Message-ID: <19991224135920.12816.qmail@.netaddress.usa.net>

    would someone tell me the story on the SFAM album? thenx....

    ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1

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    Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 05:14:21 +0200 From: O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Happy Holidays and stuff Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19960108051421.00e5a4e4@mail.surffi.net>

    Just wanted to wish merry christmas / chanukah (sp?) / kwanza (sp?) to all my friends on the list and / or #ytse... you rock! :)

    op777

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:09:52 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Twas the Scene from a Memory... Message-ID: <001a01bf4e31$d97aa200$6d0d84d0@default>

    > would someone tell me the story on the SFAM album?

    Twas the 27th of January, Nineteen twenty eight, When two young lovers Snuck off for a date.

    The woman was a sight All dressed up in white, And the man equally handsome; They met late at night.

    Little did they suspect On that wintery eve, That Veronica's husband Edward Had a card up his sleeve.

    ]From out of the darkness Some glass did shatter, And the sound of footsteps Approached with a clatter.

    To what did Julian's Keen eyes did appear, But his own brother Edward Who approached with a sneer.

    "Keep your hands off my wife," Edward had said. "And get away from her now Or you'll surely be dead!"

    "Edward I love him!" Victoria cried. Then Edward went ape$#!% Like we figured he might.

    He pulled out a gun And Julian a knife, And Edward shot Julian Not once, but twice.

    Victoria screamed out, An anguish filled cry, And fell to the ground Where she lay still and died.

    Julian crawled to Victoria, His life draining away, And they both died together In the dark alleyway.

    Edward did run To his home in a hurry; Thoughts of prisons and bars Did make him worry.

    So he crafted a note, A suicide to confess, And planted it on Julian To cover his mess.

    And as he stood over their bodies, He said with a grin, "I'll be back as a hypnotherapist To kill you again!"

    Merry Christmas, Hannukah, Kwanzaa, <place holiday here> Everyone! -- KorgX3 wrote that all by him's little own self. NP: Faith No More - King for a Day...

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:42:47 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: [Parallels] Albums of 1999 - Retrospective of sorts... Message-ID: <3863BEA7.689A251A@ivorygate.com>

    JamesAhab@aol.com wrote: > > They didn't release anything in 99. But they are working on their new album > right now and should be out in the first few months of next year. And can we hope for a tour of sorts in the US? You'd think a New Jersey band would at least play their home country once per album... ;-)

    -- ~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<<

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:43:56 PST From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: no censorship on the jam. Sorry. Message-ID: <19991224184356.19712.qmail@hotmail.com>

    Every once in a while, one of my posts doesn't go through. It's not a censorship thing, I think it's just 'one of those things'. Like every once in a while a letter gets lost in the mail, etc. I wouldn't worry too much about it, as I'm sure your posts were idiotic ramblings anyway (*note extreme sarcasm!!!!*)

    -Banjoman np: Cairo - Conflict and Dreams (someone mentioned how much they liked this one on the 'jam yesterday, so I figured I'd give it another shot. It's cool. Kinda like Yes, except progressive ;^).)

    last jam some guy wrote: Hey all, I sent an email about the dates, and true I made a comment about hte previsou tour, and where the band should play in New Orleans, but it didn't show up in the past 2 digests. What the fuck? I have never known this list to be picky and choosy about messages going through. Ive seen worse posts then mine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- We blew a fuse with a BALLAD? - Scott Henderson ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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    Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 07:30:48 +0200 From: O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Band on Leno (the show with Robin WIlliams?) Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19960108073048.00e49d78@mail.surffi.net>

    I happened to see a bit of Leno's show few nights ago, and some dudes made a painting with Robin Williams, and there was this *really* weird band playing on the background with 6 drummers & percussionists & stuff... all players wearing nothing but black (except the faces were neon green or yellow or something).

    Does anyone know what band it was? I really liked their weird-ass stuff and would like to get some CDs or anything.

    op777

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 14:28:10 EST From: Dustro2@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: people people Message-ID: <0.9748f66a.2595234a@aol.com>

    In a message dated 12/24/99 3:27:44 AM, you wrote:

    <<Why not just let dt decide whos gonna do what in there band >>

    We do let DT decide....it is just fun and interesting to comment on what could happen and what "we" would do if we were put in that situation...so i think you just need to look at the whole Picture...hehe LOL Dustro Double Jay and the Band of Love hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 14:32:19 -0500 From: "stan tyszka" <drumguy@uscom.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5244 Message-ID: <199912241933.LAA15140@fugazi.torchsong.com>

    if my failing 25 year old memory serves me correct it was Cat Stevens who did the original song.

    merry christmas

    ~Soculese ---------- >From: ytsejam@torchsong.com >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> >Subject: YTSEJAM digest 5244 >Date: Fri, Dec 24, 1999, 3:30 AM >

    >> joe's cover of Cats in the Cradle... >I kinda like that song; who did the original version??

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 14:30:55 EST From: Dustro2@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Concerts Message-ID: <0.44683593.259523ef@aol.com>

    In a message dated 12/24/99 3:27:44 AM, you wrote:

    <<Concerts with 3 bands aren't near as good as concerts with TWO bands. The first band and then the headliner. That's how I hope the Dream Theater concert goes. Comments? >>

    I agree...I hate shows like Family Values and Lalapolozacrap because u pay to see one band or 2 if you are lucky and they only lpay for like 45 min cuz thy need to fit in 6 bands before 11pm! i just like 2 bands one for 45 min and the hedliner for 2.5 hrs! that is my ideal show. Laterzzz Dustro

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 22:22:55 +0200 From: "Timo Virkkala" <wt@nic.fi> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Twas the Scene from a Memory... Message-ID: <001e01bf4e4c$eac19760$5563ec3e@pentium>

    KorgX3 wrote: >That Veronica's husband Edward

    Damn you! You did it again! What's with you and this Veronica-obsession?-)

    Nice poem, though =)

    -WT-

    NP: Lenni-Kalle Taipale Trio feat. Marika Krook - Hiutaleita (that's a famous Finnish jazz trio and their new x-mas CD)

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    Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 07:36:45 +1100 From: Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Here We Go With The Moanjam Once Again......... Message-ID: <3863D95D.C4095480@ozemail.com.au>

    I couldn't believe my eyes when I read someone bitching about DT touring with 2 other bands. Some of you people just have no idea how lucky you are, seeeing DT and 2 other great bands would be something special. You can bet the other 2 bands will be great too. DT don't tour my country (Australia) so in November I flew to Europe and caught the shows in Zwolle and Brussels. Now shouldn't I be the one bitching about having to travel to the otherside of the world to see DT ?

    gaz

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 15:59:19 EST From: DoubleJay54@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5244 Message-ID: <0.39dc5c68.259538a7@aol.com>

    In a message dated 12/24/99 2:27:43 AM Central Standard Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:

    << ytsejam@torchsong.com >> Woah, back up, not all supergroups suck. Mullmuzeler ( with our beloved JLB singing ) kicks some major ass.

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 16:02:19 EST From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: On Chroma Key Message-ID: <0.8cd9f5b0.2595395b@aol.com>

    In a message dated 12/24/99 3:30:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, phairgirl@hoe.nu writes:

    << BTW... have you seen the Chroma Key t-shirt they're hocking? It's morbidly rad :) My friends have all commented on its twisted coolness. >>

    I dont understand that shirt. Whats going on? Theres a clock with seconds ticking away and a guys on an airplane throwing in 3 different barf bags??

    jim

    np - conception: flow

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 17:14:43 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5244 Message-ID: <002c01bf4e6d$255eb9f0$780d84d0@default>

    >> joe's cover of Cats in the Cradle... > >I kinda like that song; who did the original version?? > if my failing 25 year old memory serves me correct it was Cat Stevens who > did the original song.

    Nope. Cat Steven's wrote Wild World which was Mr. Big most popular cover song. I believe it was Roy Orbison who penned Cat's in the Cradle. If I'm wrong, you're dead. hehehe. Doh!

    >That Veronica's husband Edward

    Dammit. I gotta drink some coffee before I go about this thing. I dunno. I'm surprised I don't use Vanessa myself (re: Peruvian Skies). Ah, well. Victoria/Veronica... What's the diff? :) -- KorgX3 needs to consult his numerology book.

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    Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 02:32:28 +0100 From: "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Happy, happy Message-ID: <199912250232280770.01894948@mail.elender.hu>

    Hi,

    I just want to wish you a pretty-pretty Xmas, with aaaaall the presents you wanted to get and give. And of course I wish you happy partying for the upcoming Y2K NewYearsEve.

    Zeus

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 22:16:31 -0500 From: "DarkHarmony" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: A welcome present Message-ID: <002501bf4e86$71cb5b40$8b42fea9@guest3382>

    I had an early Christmas gift tonight. I heard DT broadcast for the first time, on DirectTV!

    For those of you not familiar with the DirectTV music channels, I'll explain: with DirectTV you get many music only channels broadcast to you, each playing a specific type of music. There are channels for all the main genres(rock, rap, pop, etc), as well as some more "specific" ones: Big band, blues, worldbeat, etc.

    Each channel plays music round-the-clock over crappy graphics, and at the bottom of the screen displays artist, song title, album title, and record label.

    I noticed a while back that there is a "Progressive" channel, and I have been tuning in regularly to hear OFB, or something of that nature. I was disappointed to hear Grateful Dead, and other such semi-prog (if that) stuff.

    Finally, whie flipping thru the channels, I heard the beginning of PMU! Oddly enough, it was on the "metal" channel, not the prog one. Either way, it's good air time, good publicity, and an early Christmas present. I danced and sang ecstatically.

    Happy Holidays!

    Josh Calkin: URL: http://members.tripod.com/~DarkHarmony E-Mail: darkharmony13@hotmail.com j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu ICQ: 22473371, AOL IM: Mortua, IRC: Mortua

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 22:21:09 -0600 (CST) From: Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5244 Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.20.9912242220010.9238-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>

    Cat's in the Cradle is Harry Chapin.

    -Brian

    On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, Korg Ecksthrey wrote:

    > > >> joe's cover of Cats in the Cradle... > > >I kinda like that song; who did the original version?? > > if my failing 25 year old memory serves me correct it was Cat Stevens who > > did the original song. > > Nope. Cat Steven's wrote Wild World which was Mr. Big most popular cover > song. I believe it was Roy Orbison who penned Cat's in the Cradle. If I'm > wrong, you're dead. hehehe. Doh! > > >That Veronica's husband Edward > > Dammit. I gotta drink some coffee before I go about this thing. I dunno. > I'm surprised I don't use Vanessa myself (re: Peruvian Skies). Ah, well. > Victoria/Veronica... What's the diff? :) > -- > KorgX3 needs to consult his numerology book. > >

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 22:22:11 -0600 (CST) From: Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: On Chroma Key Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.20.9912242221210.9238-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>

    Haha. It's not a barg bag, it's the oxygen mask that pops down if the cabin depressurizes. The guy is committing suicide by taking off the mask. Suffocation.

    -Brian

    On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 JamesAhab@aol.com wrote:

    > > In a message dated 12/24/99 3:30:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, > phairgirl@hoe.nu writes: > > << > BTW... have you seen the Chroma Key t-shirt they're hocking? It's morbidly > rad :) My friends have all commented on its twisted coolness. >> > > I dont understand that shirt. Whats going on? Theres a clock with seconds > ticking away and a guys on an airplane throwing in 3 different barf bags?? > > > jim > > np - conception: flow >

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:47:36 -0600 From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Merry Christmas Message-ID: <19991224.234739.9822.0.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>

    Mike and the rest of ya'

    Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!! Happy Hanukkah!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Kurt NP-C.O.C. Deliverence

    "and though it leads to nowhere, you part debris and keep on going" - Doubledrive "Gone" "Im inspired and content"-Dream Theater "Scarred" 45.2 % of Americans pee in the shower

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