YTSEJAM digest 5244

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Date: Fri Dec 24 1999 - 03:31:01 EST

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: emotional songs
     by "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
      2) Turn it ooooon
     by "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
      3) Re: emotional songs
     by Marc van der Wal <M.R.van.der.Wal@cable.a2000.nl>
      4) JM's intonation
     by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
      5) hey!
     by Frank Velez <apyfc@usa.net>
      6) Re: supergroups and technique
     by "Daniel T. Chen" <chenda@cs.unc.edu>
      7) Re: LOL!
     by "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
      8) emotional music
     by Greg Kristianson <gkristia@ucalgary.ca>
      9) The Desert of Uninspired Playing
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
     10) Re: Emotional Songs
     by MTeiper@aol.com
     11) Re: Emotional Songs
     by "Tristam Douglas" <tris@douglasf1.freeserve.co.uk>
     12) RE:Cables
     by "Tristam Douglas" <tris@douglasf1.freeserve.co.uk>
     13) hey
     by DoubleJay54@aol.com
     14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5243
     by Stixntrixx@aol.com
     15) 3 bands is too much...
     by "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
     16) RE: [Parallels] Albums of 1999 - Retrospective of sorts...
     by Jeff <jhafer@loudoun.com>
     17) Albums of 1999 - Retrospective of sorts...
     by mkizer@csc.com
     18) Re: [Parallels] Albums of 1999 - Retrospective of sorts...
     by JamesAhab@aol.com
     19) Censored on the jam?
     by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
     20) On Chroma Key
     by "crimson royalty" <phairgirl@hoe.nu>

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    Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 14:24:59 -0400
    From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: emotional songs
    Message-ID: <002101bf4d73$152fdfa0$b13ffea9@dan>

    > Savatage:
    > Believe
    > Stay

    dunno if its been mentioned, but Somewhere in Time is awesome... ugly kid
    joe's cover of Cats in the Cradle... and Runaway Train by umm well you know,
    those guys. those are my Shivers songs. moo.

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    Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:27:19 +0100
    From: "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
    To: Ytsejam list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Turn it ooooon
    Message-ID: <38626987.FBB7699A@home.se>

    Hello everyone!

    Wow! You are not going to believe what I'm hearing on the radio as I'm going
    through 2 weeks worth of "Jams" and "Mirrors": "Invisible Touch" by the
    Genesis! It's the first time I'm actually listening to the original. For
    those of you who don't know what the hell I'm talking about, think: - "Turn
    it ooooon, turn it on, turn it on again" (ACOS - The Big Medley Pt.VI)

    Does anyone know where one might get hold mp3's of other originals like
    Journey's "Lovin, Touchin, Squeezin"? Throw some links my way on
    skarre@dtifc.com, if you know of any.

    Cheers!

    Andreas Skarin
    mailto:skarre@dtifc.com
    http://www.dtifc.com/sweden/

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    Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:50:46 +0100
    From: Marc van der Wal <M.R.van.der.Wal@cable.a2000.nl>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: emotional songs
    Message-ID: <38626F06.183ABAFA@cable.a2000.nl>

    > dunno if its been mentioned, but Somewhere in Time is awesome... ugly kid
    > joe's cover of Cats in the Cradle...
    I kinda like that song; who did the original version??

    Marc

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    Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:54:42 PST
    From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: JM's intonation
    Message-ID: <19991223185442.52368.qmail@hotmail.com>

    I just went and listened back to the end of TSCO, and I must say that I
    heard maybe ONE note that was a little bit flat, and since JM is doing all
    sorts of slidey fretless stuff anyway, it's quickly corrected. But maybe
    I'm just dumb.

                        -Banjoman

    np: Collin Walcott - Grazing Dreams

    Andrew Countermarsh (I think) wrote:
    After listening in awe to this album, I've found something I REALLY don't
    like. I can't believe they didn't notice this, actually, because to
    somebody who really listens well, it's so obvious. In the end of The Spirit
    Carries On, there's just the piano and bass playing (or it's a much softer
    section, at least - I don't know if it's just bass and piano or other stuff
    too, I think there's a gospel singer in there)... THe problem I have with it
    is that the bass is SO flat! Why would they not re-record something like
    that, when it's extremely obvious that the instrument is out of tune? I
    just couldn't believe something like that...
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    Date: 23 Dec 99 12:18:24 MST
    From: Frank Velez <apyfc@usa.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: hey!
    Message-ID: <19991223191824.13503.qmail@nwcst292.netaddress.usa.net>

    i think that when kevin moore wuz around the instrumental song were much
    kooler and expressive
    take for example erotomania..rulz
    but i have to disagree in some part..cause you cant leave out change of
    seasons...it's not all instrumental...but its has more instrumental
    parts....it rocks.

    songs make me feel....!
    =2Efar behind-candlebox
    ----DT's
    =2Esurrounded
    =2Eanother day =

    =2Etake away my pain
    =2Ehole lot more from Dt

    all metallica songs

    =2Eblack-pearl jam

    ummm rock on! from santo domingo

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    Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 14:53:15 -0500
    From: "Daniel T. Chen" <chenda@cs.unc.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: supergroups and technique
    Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.4.10.9912231431510.294081-100000@evans.cs.unc.edu>

    Someone on the 'jam recently said:

    > I hate those 'supergroups' when the emphasis is on technique. I
    > listened to LTE a few weeks ago, and it really did nothing for me.

    That's a shame, since I tend to believe that LTE1/2 has some of the most
    inspired playing ever. But to each unto his own... I think the emphasis
    was more on spontaneity than on pure technique...

    This person continued with:

    > And "Surrender to the Air", a side project of Phish's guitarist +
    > drummer, as well as a whole score of avant-garde artists is one of the
    > coolest free jazz cd's I own.

    Not to continue to contradict you, sir, but I personally found _Surrender
    to the Air_ quite *uninspired*. I won't claim to be well-versed in the
    jazz arena, but Cecil Taylor exuded more inspiration than what I found on
    SttA (not to mention that he was one heck of a pianist! ;-). Keep in
    mind that I really dig Phish, though (seen them several times outside of
    two NYE shows)...

    And someone else on the 'jam (Mike C.) wrote:

    > It's always cool to come up with hypothetical "supergroups" that have a
    > lot of our favorite musicains in them. I for one though, thank God that
    > these type of bands rarely ever come into existence. For often, they
    > work much better on paper then they do in reality. For example, remember
    > back in the early 80's when Jimmy Page (from Zepplin of course) and Paul
    > Rodgers (from Bad Company) formed the Firm? Many people had great
    > expectations from that band but God did they suck! I just thought I'd
    > mention this. Having said this though, putting a band together like in
    > prog rock would probably have a better chance of succeeding than most
    > other genres. Anyone out there have examples of these supergroups that
    > worked or didn't work? I'd be interested in hearing people' s responses.

    Hrm, actually I have in mind a David Coverdale (Whitesnake vocalist) and
    Jimmy Page side project (creatively titled Coverdale/Page) in the early
    '90s that simply didn't go anywhere, either. However, several songs on
    the album quite ably reproduced Robert Plant's style, however... ;-)

    Now for a totally different artist: Tori Amos. There is an artist whose
    virtuosity is unquestioned, whose creativity is boundless and whose
    passion is nearly unbridled (I seem caught up in a theme of "virtuosity,
    creativity and passion," eh? ;-). Each of her albums is a project in
    understanding the psyche of a distraught person (there is a reason behind
    it, as I'm sure all you fello Tori fans know), and each is articulate and
    practically magical (excuse the superfluous adjectives ;-). I just
    happened across my Chroma Key demo this morning and noticed that on "Turn
    the Page" KevMo tips his hat to Tori; thoroughly impressed, I returned to
    _Little Earthquakes_ and was once again blown away. How can I ignore such
    lyrics as those in "Winter?"

    Okay, time to quit, I'm rambling. ;-) Have a safe one folks...

    dtc

    ---
    Daniel T. Chen
    chenda@cs.unc.edu
    

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    Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:55:55 -0400 From: "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: LOL! Message-ID: <000b01bf4d7f$b9e8f2a0$37351ec8@yunque.net>

    LOL i wonder what they think of the different collaborations between DT and marillion, and the new transatlantic project.

    ----- Original Message ----- ]From: Trevor W. Hoit <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 11:22 AM Subject: LOL!

    > > ]From the Marillion/Fish list: > > "Worst - Dream Theatre, sorry guys. I have read and taken your > advice on many > things, but this CD has to be the pits (IMHO)! It sounds like a poor > excuse > for a bad Extreme CD (did the drummer get a new set of double bass > drums for > this??)" > >

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    Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:22:29 -0700 (MST) From: Greg Kristianson <gkristia@ucalgary.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: emotional music Message-ID: <Pine.A41.4.10.9912231249120.83812-100000@acs6.acs.ucalgary.ca>

    Gustav Mahler's Symphony #3 gets my vote for emotional power. The first time I heard it (to anyone who's interested, it was the recording of Bernstein conducting the New York Philharmonic from Bernstein's second Mahler cycle. still the best recording of the work, IMHO.) I literally wept, it was that moving, particularly at the end of the Trombone solo in the first movement where the 'bones and horns come in and build to this massive peak which serves as tag of sorts to the solo; it is so incredibly magnificent and majestic, no verbal description can possibly do it justice. The fourth movement "O man, take heed!" is very powerful and moving as well. On the rock front, "Out of Mind" from Queensryche, "The Difference (in the Garden of St. Anne's on the Hill)" by King's X, "Three Days" by Jane's Addiction, and "Voices" by our beloved DT definitely rank high on the "make yer balls tingle" scale for me. Q2K was emotionally very powerful for me as well, the first listen culminating in a 26 hour fit of wretching, so powerful its impression was on me.

    Grp

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    Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:53:07 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: The Desert of Uninspired Playing Message-ID: <002301bf4d87$ba5157c0$7d0d84d0@default>

    > That's a shame, since I tend to believe that LTE1/2 has some of the most > inspired playing ever. But to each unto his own... I think the emphasis

    I dunno, to me LTE is more focused on technique as well. There are some incredibly moving parts on both albums, though, but to me they're like a cluster of small oasises (oases? oasii? Can you pluralize this?) in a very large desert. That's 90% of my problem with SFaM anymore. Once you're done being blown away with all of the intricacies of the first half of the album, it just turns into LTE3, imo. Now, the second half still kicks ass (sans TDoE).

    > It's always cool to come up with hypothetical "supergroups" that have a > lot of our favorite musicains in them. I for one though, thank God that

    I think one of the most successful prog supergroups ever formed would have to be Asia. Not only did they have a huge selling debut album, but it also kicked much ass as well.

    Anyway... -- KorgX3 is off to use his friend's T1 line. =) NP: Fates Warning - Perfect Symmetry

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    Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 16:19:41 EST From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Emotional Songs Message-ID: <0.dea7fcce.2593ebed@aol.com>

    Hey gang -

    Just a few random emotional tunes that get me every time:

    Metallica "Fade To Black" Shadow Gallery "Ghost Of a Chance" Amorphis "Elegy" Queensryche "Someone Else" Fates Warning "Guardian" Guns N Roses "Estranged" Boston "A Man I'll Never Be" "Purple Rain" from Guitar Battle Iced Earth "A Question Of Heaven" Testament "Return To Serenity" Judas Priest "Beyond the Realms Of Death" Savatage "Believe" Saviour Machine "Legend I:I/The Lamb"

    That's about all I could come up with off the top of my head. I'd better stop now before the list gets too big. ;-)

    Happy Holidayz, Jammerz!!

    - Matt T.

    NP: Carnivore "Retaliation" <-- Awesome stuff!!!

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    Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 21:18:07 -0000 From: "Tristam Douglas" <tris@douglasf1.freeserve.co.uk> To: "YtseJam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Emotional Songs Message-ID: <001301bf4d8b$4e1bc960$d432883e@default>

    Dt songs that I find particually stirring:

    Voices Scarred Learning to Live One last time

    ------------------------------------------------- Tristam Douglas tris@douglasf1.freeserve.co.uk -------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 21:08:27 -0000 From: "Tristam Douglas" <tris@douglasf1.freeserve.co.uk> To: <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be> Cc: "YtseJam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE:Cables Message-ID: <001101bf4d8b$4c3e2fc0$d432883e@default>

    Yes you can hear the difference between cables! The better your system is the greater the differences. I am seriously into valve hi-fi amps and I believe anyone can tell the difference between makes of valves (say Western Electric 300B power valves versus Sovtek,) electrolytic vs. paper in oil capacitors etc.

    I have posted with regards to the quality of main supply with regards to sound. have you ever noticed that your hi-fi sounds better late at night when the is less current drawn from the grids and thus the supply is cleaner?

    ------------------------------------------------- Tristam Douglas tris@douglasf1.freeserve.co.uk -------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:24:38 EST From: DoubleJay54@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: hey Message-ID: <0.4b164139.25940936@aol.com>

    Why not just let dt decide whos gonna do what in there band

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    Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:42:31 EST From: Stixntrixx@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5243 Message-ID: <0.4cfccd62.25940d67@aol.com>

    In a message dated 99-12-23 13:06:44 EST, you write:

    << Actually, you just said every reason why personally I hate Desmond Child and what he does to songs. I am so glad DT only did that one song with him. IMO (and it's just an opinion of course) is that the above music is total pop crap and we don't need that coming from DT! >>

    Whatever.

    Richie

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    Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:35:51 -0600 From: "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net> To: <jmsouter@airmail.net> Subject: 3 bands is too much... Message-ID: <000801bf4da6$d4810b80$7f2788cf@jammer>

    ]From Mike Portnoy: **The Dregs will not be joining the tour until the LA shows (as well as a *possible, but not definate* 3rd act TBA) **Opening act for the 1st three dates will be announced soon -------

    Concerts with 3 bands aren't near as good as concerts with TWO bands. The first band and then the headliner. That's how I hope the Dream Theater concert goes. Comments?

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    Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:33:01 -0500 From: Jeff <jhafer@loudoun.com> To: Fates Warning Mailing List <fates@geminiweb.net>, fateswarning@egroups.com, Subject: RE: [Parallels] Albums of 1999 - Retrospective of sorts... Message-ID: <NDBBILHGGLIFGNADICIKGEOBCLAA.jhafer@loudoun.com>

    Bah.. you forgot Symphony X. I'm glad to hear they got picked up by = Metal Blade.

    > -----Original Message----- > From: fates-bounce@geminiweb.net [mailto:fates-bounce@geminiweb.net= ]On > Behalf Of mkizer@csc.com > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 6:58 PM > To: fateswarning@egroups.com; fates@geminiweb.net; ytsejam@torchson= g.com > Subject: [Parallels] Albums of 1999 - Retrospective of sorts... > > > > > Well, I had my CD tracking software (KeepItCompact.com) spit out > a list of all > the albums that I had purchased that were released in 1999, just > so I could see > what kind of a year it was for music. The list was pretty > interesting, so I > figured I'd share it with you all... > > 10 Essential CDs From 1999 (Inclusion/Exclusion/Order of this > list is subject to > my various > mood swings, tide levels, etc... In other words it is not my "Ten > Commandments" > ;-): > 1. Live The Distance to Here > 2. The Tea Party TRIPtych > 3. Dream Theater Metropolis Pt 2: Scenes From A Memo= ry > 4. Engine Engine > 5. Spock's Beard Day For Night (import) > 6. Chroma Key This Is A Recording > 7. Porcupine Tree Stupid Dream > 8. Primus Antipop > 9. Steve Vai The Ultra Zone > 10. Amorphis Tuonela > > Honorable Mentions For 1999 (in semi-specific order, ranking > mainly by how much > I like the > album/artist and how much staying power the album had in my CD play= er): > Gordian Knot Gordian Knot > Ozric Tentacles Waterfall Cities > Liquid Tension Experiment 2 > Jim Matheos Away With Words > Vanden Plas Far Off Grace > Derek Sherinian Planet X > Billy McLaughlin Out of Hand > Barry Sparks Glimmer Of Hope... > John Paul Jones Zooma > Dali's Dilemma Manifesto for Futurism > Collective Soul Dosage > Drain S.T.H. Freaks Of Nature > Neal Morse Neal Morse > All Too Human Forever And A Day > Tori Amos To Venus and Back > Buckethead Monsters and Robots > Clockwork Surface Tension > Mullmuzzler Keep It To Yourself > Nine Inch Nails The Fragile > Chris Cornell Euphoria Morning > Tiles Presents Of Mind > Vert=FA Vert=FA > Various Artists Encores, Legends & Paradox (A Tribute > To The Music > Of ELP) > Michael Harris Distorted Views > Vitalij Kuprij VK3 > Vinnie Moore The Maze > Greg Howe Ascend > Carbon 12 Very Harsh Frequencies > Steve Wilson Bass Communion > Alice In Chains Nothing Safe (The Best Of The Box) > > Semi-Disappointments For 1999 (in no real sequence): > Fish Raingods with Zippos > With the exception of Plague Of Ghosts and a couple other > tracks, this album > > didn't grab me as much as his earlier stuff... Still not a > terrible effort, > I just > expect much more from his fishiness... > Gary Hoey Money > Not a bad album really, but it seems just like more of the > same from Gary, > Which is not terrible, because I really enjoy his playing, > just wish he'd > branch > out a bit. > Tony MacAlpine Masters of Paradise > Might be a good album... if I could hear it! This album > suffers from really > bad > mastering I guess. The volume is about 3 times lower than my > other CDs, > making > it a real pain to listen to. But, Tony sings on this one and h= as a > suprisingly > good voice, so it is worth investigation (I hope Shrapnel > fixes this CD!). > Sevendust Home > I liked the songs on here pretty well, but it is one of > those albums that > just > didn't have much staying power for me. Maybe it was hyped too = much or > something > for me. Although, they were entertaining to see live... > Queensr=FFche Q2K > A little better than their last one, but I still ask myself > "What the hell > happened to these guys?" > Marillion marillion.com > See my comment about Q2K above. > Labyrinth Timeless Crime > Not terrible, and maybe I should listen to it again (but it > was a freebie > so who's > complaining ;-) > > All in all, not a bad year for music... > And if I had had more money (and time), this list might even be a l= ittle > longer... ;-) > > ~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070= 538 > > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygat= e.com > >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream = <<< > >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books = <<< > >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com = <<< > > > >

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    Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 16:58:14 -0700 From: mkizer@csc.com To: fateswarning@egroups.com, fates@geminiweb.net, ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Albums of 1999 - Retrospective of sorts... Message-ID: <85256851.0003B8D0.00@csc.com>

    Well, I had my CD tracking software (KeepItCompact.com) spit out a list= of all the albums that I had purchased that were released in 1999, just so I c= ould see what kind of a year it was for music. The list was pretty interesting, = so I figured I'd share it with you all...

    10 Essential CDs From 1999 (Inclusion/Exclusion/Order of this list is s= ubject to my various mood swings, tide levels, etc... In other words it is not my "Ten Comma= ndments" ;-): 1. Live The Distance to Here 2. The Tea Party TRIPtych 3. Dream Theater Metropolis Pt 2: Scenes From A Memory 4. Engine Engine 5. Spock's Beard Day For Night (import) 6. Chroma Key This Is A Recording 7. Porcupine Tree Stupid Dream 8. Primus Antipop 9. Steve Vai The Ultra Zone 10. Amorphis Tuonela

    Honorable Mentions For 1999 (in semi-specific order, ranking mainly by = how much I like the album/artist and how much staying power the album had in my CD player):=

    Gordian Knot Gordian Knot Ozric Tentacles Waterfall Cities Liquid Tension Experiment 2 Jim Matheos Away With Words Vanden Plas Far Off Grace Derek Sherinian Planet X Billy McLaughlin Out of Hand Barry Sparks Glimmer Of Hope... John Paul Jones Zooma Dali's Dilemma Manifesto for Futurism Collective Soul Dosage Drain S.T.H. Freaks Of Nature Neal Morse Neal Morse All Too Human Forever And A Day Tori Amos To Venus and Back Buckethead Monsters and Robots Clockwork Surface Tension Mullmuzzler Keep It To Yourself Nine Inch Nails The Fragile Chris Cornell Euphoria Morning Tiles Presents Of Mind Vert=FA Vert=FA Various Artists Encores, Legends & Paradox (A Tribute To Th= e Music Of ELP) Michael Harris Distorted Views Vitalij Kuprij VK3 Vinnie Moore The Maze Greg Howe Ascend Carbon 12 Very Harsh Frequencies Steve Wilson Bass Communion Alice In Chains Nothing Safe (The Best Of The Box)

    Semi-Disappointments For 1999 (in no real sequence): Fish Raingods with Zippos With the exception of Plague Of Ghosts and a couple other tracks, t= his album

    didn't grab me as much as his earlier stuff... Still not a terrible= effort, I just expect much more from his fishiness... Gary Hoey Money Not a bad album really, but it seems just like more of the same fr= om Gary, Which is not terrible, because I really enjoy his playing, just wi= sh he'd branch out a bit. Tony MacAlpine Masters of Paradise Might be a good album... if I could hear it! This album suffers fr= om really bad mastering I guess. The volume is about 3 times lower than my other= CDs, making it a real pain to listen to. But, Tony sings on this one and has a=

    suprisingly good voice, so it is worth investigation (I hope Shrapnel fixes th= is CD!). Sevendust Home I liked the songs on here pretty well, but it is one of those albu= ms that just didn't have much staying power for me. Maybe it was hyped too much= or something for me. Although, they were entertaining to see live... Queensr=FFche Q2K A little better than their last one, but I still ask myself "What = the hell happened to these guys?" Marillion marillion.com See my comment about Q2K above. Labyrinth Timeless Crime Not terrible, and maybe I should listen to it again (but it was a = freebie so who's complaining ;-)

    All in all, not a bad year for music... And if I had had more money (and time), this list might even be a littl= e longer... ;-)

    ~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 = > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.co= m >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<= < >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<= < >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<= < =

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    Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 23:22:28 EST From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: [Parallels] Albums of 1999 - Retrospective of sorts... Message-ID: <0.31bcaa76.25944f04@aol.com>

    In a message dated 12/23/99 7:37:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, jhafer@loudoun.com writes:

    << Bah.. you forgot Symphony X. I'm glad to hear they got picked up by = Metal Blade. >>

    They didn't release anything in 99. But they are working on their new album right now and should be out in the first few months of next year.

    jim

    np - king's x: faith, hope, love

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 00:16:40 -0600 From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Censored on the jam? Message-ID: <19991224.001645.11662.0.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>

    Hey all, I sent an email about the dates, and true I made a comment about hte previsou tour, and where the band should play in New Orleans, but it didn't show up in the past 2 digests. What the fuck? I have never known this list to be picky and choosy about messages going through. Ive seen worse posts then mine. Could someone help?

    Kurt NP-Shadow Gallery Carved in Stone

    "and though it leads to nowhere, you part debris and keep on going" - Doubledrive "Gone" "Im inspired and content"-Dream Theater "Scarred" 45.2 % of Americans pee in the shower

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    Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 02:15:58 -0600 From: "crimson royalty" <phairgirl@hoe.nu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: On Chroma Key Message-ID: <000e01bf4de7$1bbe3e60$c02d0b18@dubuq1.ia.home.com>

    > Hello fellow Ytsejammers! > > I've just bought Chroma Key and I loved every of second of it. Well, > >almost every second. The only problem for me is the last track, I think >it would be better if "Dead Air For Radios" ended on track no 8. I just >can't listen to Hell Mary. The ambiental music on this track is ok, but > >there's no way to stand the voice. It sounds like an old Sound >Blaster/Creative >voice synthetizer (texto ole,blah blah)... > Favorite tracks: Colorblind, Even The Waves, S.O.S, On The Page, >Mouse. > >[]s Fernando Rauber

    I've been huge into Chroma Key since the day I downloaded the "Colorblind" mp3. But then again, I've always been die-hard Kevin Moore from the get-go. In fact, I think I could speak coherently given the chance to meet anyone on the planet--except for Kevin Moore. I've got a hard-core idolization problem when it comes to him :)

    Anyway... I too really thought "Hell Mary" was annoying. However, one day while listening to it driving to work, it just caught my ear _just so_ and I started freaking out and changed the track. I've never, EVER been driven to that before. It just completely spooked me.

    And I thought I was crazy for a bit, because it hasn't done that to me since. However, I played the disc at work on several occasions. This innocent 16 year old girl was left alone with the radio in the back room as I was off doing other things, and all the sudden she bolted up to the front of the store. "What in the HELL is that song about? The end of the world?" and I just kinda smiled and was like, "Yeah, I suppose." and she utterly REFUSED to go to the back room with that song on.

    Ever since that day, it's one of my favorite tracks. I keep trying to re-create the eerieness of it with other people, but it hasn't worked in a controlled setting. However, during my time of pushing Kevin Moore on people, I've won many converts :)

    BTW... have you seen the Chroma Key t-shirt they're hocking? It's morbidly rad :) My friends have all commented on its twisted coolness.

    --Summer mail: phairgirl@hoe.nu HOE e'zine: http://www.hoe.nu

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