YTSEJAM Digest 5232
Today's Topics:
1) DT Album Ranking
by Giannotti Nick Contr ESC/JS <Nick.Giannotti@hanscom.af.mil>
2) Re:1999 DTIFC X-Mas CD??
by "Art Ellis" <artellis@mindspring.com>
3) RE: DT Album Ranking
by David Dixon <davidd@iisweb.com>
4) Re:Which scanner to by
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
5) Re: DT Album Ranking / Awake
by Michael Pruchnicki <mlpruchnicki@computec.de>
6) Re: Pink Floyd
by "Sasha" <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr>
7) Beatles Discography?
by "Jorrit Godeke" <jogobass@hetnet.nl>
8) Re: Images and Words vs SFAM
by Fett2002@aol.com
9) Re: Images and Words vs. SFAM
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
10) Jam 5230/> Top Ten ways to be the "funny guy"' at your office.
by "Jorrit Godeke" <jogobass@hetnet.nl>
11) Re: Jam 5230/> Top Ten ways to be the "funny guy"' at your
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
12) You think you're the finger man, eh?
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
13) Re: Pink Floyd
by "Dave Peterson" <glyde@hotmail.com>
14) Trans-Siberian Orchestra
by Joe Deangelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
15) RE: Images and Words vs. SFAM
by Luke Bateup <lbateup@bond.edu.au>
16) Re: Liquid Drum Theater
by "Nick Storr" <nick_storr@bigpond.com>
17) Re: Trans-Siberian Orchestra
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
18) Re: Liquid Drum Theater
by Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
19) Re: Trans-Siberian Orchestra
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
20) TSO Show..aftethoughts
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
21) Derek's solo in XMas98 'Silent Man'
by "Robert O'Doherty" <RODoherty@seagull.nl>
22) NA Tour
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
23) AW: Derek's solo in XMas98 'Silent Man'
by Michael Pruchnicki <mlpruchnicki@computec.de>
24) john west
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
25) Portnoy video-the new one
by "Beck, James" <James.Beck@medec.com>
26) Re: Portnoy video-the new one
by "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 13:45:33 -0500
From: Giannotti Nick Contr ESC/JS <Nick.Giannotti@hanscom.af.mil>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: DT Album Ranking
Message-ID: <390762D98D63D2118C280060081358CC01466FA6@hamsxha2.hanscom.af.mil>
David Dixon wrote,
>I agree nearly completely:
>
>1. Scenes From a Memory
>2. Awake
>3. A Change of Seasons
>4. Images and Words
>5. Falling Into Infinity
>6. When Dream and Day Unite
I just don't get why everyone thinks Awake is the be-all, end-all of DT's
albums. It's not that it's a good album, but it just doesn't do it for me.
Maybe it's the fact that the keyboards are SO buried in the mix, or maybe
it's the fact that it's so dark, or maybe I was dropped on my head too many
times as a child. But it just never really had the gut-wrenching kick that
DTs other albums have had for me. And yes, I'm aware that Voices is on
there, and yes, the song does nothing for me.
For the record:
1. Falling into Infinity
2. Once in a LiveTime
3. Tie: Images and Words / Scenes From A Memory
4. A Change of Seasons (this'd be up higher if it were a total studio album)
5. Awake
6. When Dream And Day Unite (I agree with David - the vocals kill this).
Nicholas Giannotti
Joint STARS Joint Program Office / ESC/JSK
System Resources Corporation (Support Contractor)
email: giannottin@hanscom.af.mil
- When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend.
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the bear. Just worry about out-running your friend.
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:04:14 -0500
From: "Art Ellis" <artellis@mindspring.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>, <MTeiper@aol.com>
Subject: Re:1999 DTIFC X-Mas CD??
Message-ID: <001101bf4666$07585060$4421f7a5@pbcustomer>
<<<<<Does anyone know if this year's fan club CD's are being distributed
yet? If
not, does anyone know when they will be? >>>>>
The Christmas CD probably won't get to you until late January or February.
Last years came (I Think) in late January, but I believe I was one of the
earlier ones to get it
~~Art
Webmaster
http://www.joestump.com
"In general, the art of government
consists in taking as much money as
possible from one class of citizens to
give to the other."
-Voltaire
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:08:09 -0700
From: David Dixon <davidd@iisweb.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: DT Album Ranking
Message-ID: <A65ADB6BE999D3118F650008C7E617521179D1@MESSAGING>
> I just don't get why everyone thinks Awake is the be-all, end-all of DT's
> albums. It's not that it's a good album, but it just doesn't do it for me.
> Maybe it's the fact that the keyboards are SO buried in the mix, or maybe
> it's the fact that it's so dark, or maybe I was dropped on my head too
many
> times as a child. But it just never really had the gut-wrenching kick that
> DTs other albums have had for me. And yes, I'm aware that Voices is on
> there, and yes, the song does nothing for me.
I guess the reasons I like it are the reasons you DISlike it. I love dark,
brooding music (Type O, anyone?), and it suits my personality... :)
About the keys being buried - I think this also suits my taste. Keys, to me
(though I DO PLAY KEYS IN MY BAND), should be a complementing/accompanying
instrument, not a lead instrument. Don't get me wrong - Rudess and
Sherinian are both kick-ass lead players, and their styles are perfect for
playing leads in a band. IMHO, Moore just didn't solo as well as either of
the other two, and his lead sound was weak (Sherinian's kicks ass, and while
Jordan's isn't quite as good, it is still beefier and ballsier than
KevMo's). I think it is nice to not have the keys right in your face all
the time... :) <Dave dons the good ol' asbestos suit>
It's not that I don't like keys (like I said, I am a keyboardist) - SFaM is
my favorite DT album, and it has keys all over the place. But, SFaM is also
VERY dark at times (also at times when keys are very prominent)...
And yes, I think Voices is a GOOD song, but is not the reason I like Awake.
I LOVE Scarred, Lifting Shadows Off a Dream, Innocence Faded, Space Dye
Vest, and Erotomania FAR more than Voices. And you gotta love The Mirror!
:)
My two cents...
David Dixon, MCP
Internet Developer
Integrated Information Systems, Inc.
david@iisweb.com
ytsedave@asu.edu
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 13:08:24 -0600
From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re:Which scanner to by
Message-ID: <385695A8.DA76C86C@isd.net>
Jonathan D Willey wrote:
>I am about to out and buy a Canon Canoscan 620U scanner for my PC. It is
>a USB scanner and has gotten some good reviews... does anyone own one of
>these or have a great scanner they bought for under $125??? Sorry to
>bring this up on the Jam but..... I did... Thanks for the help
I couldn't tell you much about Canon scanners.. But I'm not very fond of
their printers. I haven't paid much attention to scanners lately. :(
I would look into Hewlett Packard or Epson. Again... Avoid the bottom
feeder models. If it feels flimsy, it probably is. The better scanners
generally weigh much more than the garden variety cheapos and have
far better cabinet integrity... Not to mention image quality or reliability.
--
Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
^
Switchcraft Microsystems
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You come into the world headfirst. You go out feet first.
Everything in between is a matter of balance.
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 20:45:12 +0100
From: Michael Pruchnicki <mlpruchnicki@computec.de>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: DT Album Ranking / Awake
Message-ID: <A1205194D0DAD2119B05006097B4030801E4D3@FILESERVER2>
> I just don't get why everyone thinks Awake is the be-all, end-all of DT's
> albums. It's not that it's a good album, but it just doesn't do it for me.
> Maybe it's the fact that the keyboards are SO buried in the mix, or maybe
> it's the fact that it's so dark, or maybe I was dropped on my head too
many
> times as a child. But it just never really had the gut-wrenching kick that
> DTs other albums have had for me. And yes, I'm aware that Voices is on
> there, and yes, the song does nothing for me.
I couldn't agree more. Awake comes with a huge guitar sound, but lacks
the aggressivity to use it well. (Beyond This Life's intro shows how to do
it!)
I think the songs on Awake are a bit too bland for my taste. There is very
little seriously technical stuff (6:00 and the instrumental break of Scarred
being the main exceptions) that IAW had tons of, there is little really
catchy
melodic stuff like Another Day and Surrounded. The epic songs are totally
pretentious, but they lack the special something that makes Learning To Live
seem more like an 8 minute track when listening to it. The long songs
actually
SEEM long which is not good. Voices is terribly pretentious and just doesn't
do anything for me (except for the vocals - the chorus in particular is
annoying!).
The only songs that I can really listen to without skipping parts or getting
bored are Erotomania, Lifting Shadows Off A Dream and Space-Dye Vest.
I'd take FII over Awake any day - it has by far the better songwriting!
Btw, did anyone notice that the hardcore FII bashers are mostly Awake
fanatics, too? :)
> For the record:
(not including live stuff)
1. SfaM
2. IAW (actually this is more of a tie with SfaM, but I'm a bit tired of IAW
at the moment ;)
3. FII
4. ACOS (would've been #3 with a decent drum sound, I suppose)
5. Awake
6. WDADU
- Mike
--
"What makes a dream so very different from any other dream ?"
--
Michael Pruchnicki
Editor PlayStation Zone, N-Zone
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 20:21:13 +0100
From: "Sasha" <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr>
To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Pink Floyd
Message-ID: <002901bf466b$6b175740$81ec1dc3@sasa>
>From: Fett2002@aol.com
>And Learning to Fly, which DOES have some terrific guitar work form Gilmour
in it, has really bad lyrics: >"tongue tied and twisted, just an earth bound
blisted flight" What's up with THAT crap???
mmm... the lyrics actually go: "...tongue, tied and twisted, just an
earth-bound misfit, I..." :-)). Sorry, I just had to show you my extensive
knowledge of Pink Floyd's lyrics... :-).
"Lifting shadows off a dream
Once broken
She can turn a drop of water
Into an ocean..."
John Myung of Dream Theater
["Lifting Shadows off a Dream"]
sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr
http://chronosphere.zambizzi.com
ICQ UIN - 6098813
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 21:29:24 +0100
From: "Jorrit Godeke" <jogobass@hetnet.nl>
To: "ytsejam list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Beatles Discography?
Message-ID: <000901bf4672$147cc300$c59979c3@JorritGodeke>
Hello fellow proggies
It's maybe a little of the subject, but he, that's what the 'Jam is for,
isn't it? ;P
I happened to stumble upon a CD-rom ( a CD-R copy ) wich contains ALL(!) of
the Beatles albums in a compressed wave-format. It has a nice
interface with all of the covers of the albums. When you double-click an
album-cover you can play all of the songs of that album and also read the
lyrics of the songs.
I checked out the .wav-files on the CD. They are compressed with Microsoft
ADPCM, have
a sample-rate of 22kHz at 4 bits. Can anyone tell me how it is possible to
get an absolutely noiseless recording at this bitrate?
It really amazes me...
If anyoneone else has this CD and/or knows how/where/why in the hell it was
made, please enlighten me.
Greetings,
Jorrit
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 16:05:51 EST
From: Fett2002@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Images and Words vs SFAM
Message-ID: <0.de5cb894.25880b2f@aol.com>
>Hello,
>as I see, for the most people here, I&W is the best
>album DT ever made. Not for me. For me, the best
>is SFAM, then Awake and _then_ I&W/FII. Anybody
>with the same opinion?
>My $.02,
>Martin
For me, I like Awake, SFAM, IAW, then FII. But it doesn't really matter. It's
all DDT and it's all great to me. IAW is not my favorite becuase of the
couple of ballads. Another Day is amost an 80's power ballad (not knocking it
though- I still kinda dig it) and Surrounded sounds too happy to me, too much
like a bad Genesis song. I never unserstood why a lot of people liked that
song, but hey to each his own, and it's still DT so it's still cool to me.
And I think the only reason I like Awake over SFAM is Keven's keyboard
playing and the fact that FAM is a concept album. I love concept album but
they can annoy me a little bit at times. Its a little harder to listen to
songs by themselves with concept albums because they are all linked together.
Just my opinion.
-Mike
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:45:22 -0600
From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Images and Words vs. SFAM
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19991214214522.016d291c@pi-r-squared.com>
At 09:36 AM 12/14/99 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
>Hello,
>
>as I see, for the most people here, I&W is the best
>album DT ever made. Not for me. For me, the best
>is SFAM, then Awake and _then_ I&W/FII. Anybody
>with the same opinion?
>
I was thinkin just now I was playin it for about the gazillionth time,
that.. SFAM may just be my fav as well. I can actually get into all of the
album now, and it still hasn't gotten old... oh and I'm STILL discovering
new stuff.. after a couple of months. that's pretty impressive.
Palpatine
Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian
of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New Hope
"Such nauseous hypocrisy which, stung by a threepenny tea tax, piles Bunker
Hill with granites and statues, prating all the time of patriotism and
broadswords, while, like another Pecksniff, it recommends a century of dumb
submission and entire non-resistance to the Russians, who for a hundred
years have seen their sons by thousands dragged to death or exile" -Wendell
Phillips, 1881
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:06:00 +0100
From: "Jorrit Godeke" <jogobass@hetnet.nl>
To: "ytsejam list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Jam 5230/> Top Ten ways to be the "funny guy"' at your office.
Message-ID: <001f01bf467f$86833580$069979c3@JorritGodeke>
£"$%&%$(&($*£* !!!!!!!
Oke, I hope for Mr. Trevor W. Hoit that he can come up with a VERY good
excuse for this SHIT popping up on the Jam!
I have never read such low, childish, red-neck(?) nonsense before.
I am speechless about the fact that persons who have a mind SICK enough to
come up with stuff like this even have the guts to post it in public.
I'll stop writing now, before I'm gonna hurt someone real bad.
--Jorrit
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|| for the new tradition in ||
|| Dutch Progressive Rock ||
|| ------------------------------------- ||
|| "Virtue constitutes happiness ||
|| and selfcontrol is the essential ||
|| part of virtue." (Cynic) ||
||_______________________________________||
(_________________________________________)
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:03:32 -0600
From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Jam 5230/> Top Ten ways to be the "funny guy"' at your
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19991214230332.016aec08@pi-r-squared.com>
At 02:16 PM 12/14/99 -0800, you wrote:
>
>=A3"$%&%$(&($*=A3* !!!!!!!
>
>Oke, I hope for Mr. Trevor W. Hoit that he can come up with a VERY good
>excuse for this SHIT popping up on the Jam!
>
>I have never read such low, childish, red-neck(?) nonsense before.
>I am speechless about the fact that persons who have a mind SICK enough to
>come up with stuff like this even have the guts to post it in public.
>
>I'll stop writing now, before I'm gonna hurt someone real bad.
Wake up! It was satire, not meant to be taken seriously at all. Total
sarcasm. Haven't you ever gotten one of those "Top Ten fun things to do in a
computer lab" things or whatever? They used to be funny, now they've gotten
really lame, and our mailboxes get flooded with them everyday. Just consider
this a parody of one of those lists and plant tongue firmly in cheek when
you read. The layers of humor here are multiple. You're laughing at the
thought of someone laughing at this, or in a simpler way.. most of those old
lists you're laughing with the idea, this one you're laughing at it. Hard to
explain, but I understood it. I thought it was very funny.
Palpatine
Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian
of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New=
Hope
"Such nauseous hypocrisy which, stung by a threepenny tea tax, piles Bunker
Hill with granites and statues, prating all the time of patriotism and
broadswords, while, like another Pecksniff, it recommends a century of dumb
submission and entire non-resistance to the Russians, who for a hundred
years have seen their sons by thousands dragged to death or exile" -Wendell
Phillips, 1881
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:48:31 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: You think you're the finger man, eh?
Message-ID: <001801bf4685$7c3b02a0$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>
>£"$%&%$(&($*£* !!!!!!!
Translation: "Fook you, capitaleest peegs, vere are mine thumb shcrews
*slobber slobber*"
Personally, I thought the "funny guy" joke was as it was intended:
informative. You should have seen the smiles on my co-workers faces as I
ran through the office with my penis dangling out of my pants pissing
everywhere. A drank a gallon of Nestea an hour prior to the gag for the
full effect, too. ;) I even got a raise out of it!
Anyway, I downloaded Al's buddy's Mr. Silent Jammer's (John Myung?) MP3
Misha's Surprise through some small miracle here at work (56k by proxy is
SLOW!) and I must say I find it quite good. Listening to the song makes me
think of Joe Satch wanting to write another happy song with Rubina in the
title and grabbing the guys from Enchant to play it for him. Everyone
download it, if not for sheer enjoyment of the song, just to make Al's ISP
upset at his sudden overwhelming consumption of bandwidth. :)
BoneSoda rulz. Trying to download the other one. :\
--
KorgX3 is the fingerman.
NP: BoneSoda - Misha's Surprise
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 16:50:52 PST
From: "Dave Peterson" <glyde@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Pink Floyd
Message-ID: <19991215005052.44072.qmail@hotmail.com>
Fett2002@aol.com wrote:
>Learning to Fly, which DOES have some terrific guitar work form >Gilmour in
>it, has really bad lyrics: "tongue tied and twisted, just >an earth bound
>blisted flight" What's up with THAT crap??? -Mike
I agree that what you wrote is indeed crap, but the words that you wrote are
not the lyrics to the song. The lyrics are as follows...
"Tongue tied and twisted, just an earthbound misfit: I"
Thanks for playing though.
- Dr. Teeth
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 20:19:17 -0500
From: Joe Deangelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Trans-Siberian Orchestra
Message-ID: <3856EC95.33ABDA74@home.com>
> (Their "Ghosts Of Christmas Eve" album was
> also great, but not as good IMHO as their first one.)
Actually "Ghosts of Christmas Eve" is only the name of one SONG on their
latest disc, which is actually called "The Christmas Attic".
- Joe D.
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:00:05 +1000
From: Luke Bateup <lbateup@bond.edu.au>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Images and Words vs. SFAM
Message-ID: <38570435.781B71A2@bond.edu.au>
> as I see, for the most people here, I&W is the best
> album DT ever made. Not for me. For me, the best
> is SFAM, then Awake and _then_ I&W/FII. Anybody
> with the same opinion?
Not even close :)
1. Images & Words/Awake (tied at #1 as always, I can't pick between
them)
2. Scenes From A Memory
3. When Dream & Day Unite
4. Falling Into Infinity
5. A Change Of Seasons (at #5 only because it's a one song EP)
[live albums omitted since they don't really count]
--
LUKE BATEUP
AV Services
Bond University
55954020
lbateup@bond.edu.au
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:19:16 +1100
From: "Nick Storr" <nick_storr@bigpond.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Liquid Drum Theater
Message-ID: <002d01bf46ab$3005c660$38d42b9c@wintas.com.au>
Another good thing I noticed about the video, is the mix on the LTE & SFAM
backing tracks he uses is somewhat different... I was able to pick out parts
that seemed to have been buried on the CD... particularly some keyboard
parts in "Home"
I'm not a drummer... but I'm interested in drumming, and I found the videos
worth getting....
Nick Storr
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 21:11:52 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Trans-Siberian Orchestra
Message-ID: <001301bf46b2$8a77e720$790d84d0@safelink.net>
> Actually "Ghosts of Christmas Eve" is only the name of one SONG on their
> latest disc, which is actually called "The Christmas Attic".
BTW, I hope everyone caught the special. :) That was pretty badass. I have
to admit, I have no complaints about Jewel even being there. I've never
been fond of her, but they must have slapped her around a bit so she would
sing without all of that horrible inflection she puts on alot of her stuff.
Is there any way to check the ratings to see how many people watched? I'm
curious. :) Too bad alot of it was Lipps, Inc. (not lip synched, damn...
er... wait...). That was a disappointment to me. :\
--
KorgX3 is coming home this Christmas Day.
huh... huh... I said "come"
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:18:28 -0500
From: Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Liquid Drum Theater
Message-ID: <385724A4.BFFF1B6E@yunque.net>
Nick Storr wrote:
> Another good thing I noticed about the video, is the mix on the LTE & SFAM
> backing tracks he uses is somewhat different... I was able to pick out parts
> that seemed to have been buried on the CD... particularly some keyboard
> parts in "Home"
>
> I'm not a drummer... but I'm interested in drumming, and I found the videos
> worth getting....
>
> Nick Storr
That is totally true! I want to hook up my vcr to at least make an mp3 of this
version of home! The louder piano parts are awesome..i prefer this version over
the one in the album! I didnt notice the differences in the LTE tracks though..
The video IS very interesting for non-drummers...but i think its a bit too
pricey to get if not for the in strumental value of it..
--
Without love, without truth, there can be no turning back.
Without faith, without hope, there can be no peace of mind.
Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc.
mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:44:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Trans-Siberian Orchestra
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9912142338120.46872-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Korg Ecksthrey wrote:
> BTW, I hope everyone caught the special. :) That was pretty badass.
> I have to admit, I have no complaints about Jewel even being there.
> I've never been fond of her, but they must have slapped her around a
> bit so she would sing without all of that horrible inflection she puts
> on alot of her stuff.
I think a lot of people give this girl a bum rap about the type of music
she chooses to sing. Jewel Kilcher is an amazingly talented singer,
songwriter, poet (well, this last might be contradicted by all the bad
reviews of her book), and actress. She went to Interlochen Arts Academy,
for crying out loud - you can't get in there (it's an arts HIGH school)
without having a SIGNIFICANT amount of talent. She's been trained to sing
operatically, so I find the comment that you make about her voice kind of
offensive.
It'd be like if I tried to make a pop album, and then went on to my career
choice of opera (I actually may do opera someday). As unlikely a scenario
as it may seem, I have just as much a diversity in my musical tastes and
styles of singing as Jewel does. I wouldn't be able to stand it if people
were to say, "Wow, I couldn't believe he sang the part of Figaro without
that awful inflection he had in his pop album..." It a different style,
and therefore it warrants a different type of singing; what's perfectly
all right for one is unthinkable to the other. So think twice the next
time you hear her sing something that's not her typical girly-music and
you hear something other than what you thought you'd hear.
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"God is crying." If they ask why, another cute
thing to say is, "Probably something you did."
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:07:46 -0600
From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: TSO Show..aftethoughts
Message-ID: <19991215.000952.11494.1.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>
I thought the show was excellent. Was that basically the whoel Christmas
Eve and other stories album? Eve/Saravejo's video was cool. I see how
they tied it a little with the DWD CD. I would do Jewel to, except get
her braces. How old do you think the little blonde was? Give her a few
years too (hehe)
Seriously, I thought it was the best hour of music on TV in a long time.
Kurt
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:23:49 +0100
From: "Robert O'Doherty" <RODoherty@seagull.nl>
To: "'Ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <Ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Derek's solo in XMas98 'Silent Man'
Message-ID: <CBC8507A9BB1D011824700A0C92C7417FDA6B5@ns0007.seagull.nl>
Derek's piano solo in XMas CD 1998 'The Silient Man' rules. Derek could
truly rock a keyboard and DT has lost this element that Derek so brilliantly
filled. I hope the song oriented style of XMas 98 CD will be repeated some
time down the line.
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 01:26:17 -0800
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: NA Tour
Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA01CB527E@ms.kallback.com>
So what do you think the chances are of a little RMP being played
during the show since both guys will be there? That would be cool.
Trevor-nuttier than a fruitcake
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:14:29 +0100
From: Michael Pruchnicki <mlpruchnicki@computec.de>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: AW: Derek's solo in XMas98 'Silent Man'
Message-ID: <A1205194D0DAD2119B05006097B4030801E4D4@FILESERVER2>
> Derek's piano solo in XMas CD 1998 'The Silient Man' rules. Derek could
> truly rock a keyboard and DT has lost this element that Derek so
brilliantly
> filled.
Try listening to the Hoedown cover on the ELP tribute to hear Jordan play
some rocky piano.
> I hope the song oriented style of XMas 98 CD will be repeated some
> time down the line.
It's a good girls' CD. :)
- Mike
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 04:18:17 -0800
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: john west
Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA01CB528C@ms.kallback.com>
Now that John West is singing for Royal Hunt,
does Artension have a new singer? Or did they break up?
Anyone? Bueller?
~Trevor want his Cheesy Poofs
NP-Carpenters-Christmas Portrait
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 08:24:45 -0500
From: "Beck, James" <James.Beck@medec.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Portnoy video-the new one
Message-ID: <D7B11E578C3CD311AA320008C709329F18E62B@ELMO>
Since I am a non-drummer and currently cannot afford to purchase the video's
myself, would anybody be willing to tape them for me if I supply the tapes
and a nominal fee? Just curious. Email privately.
James
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:49:12 -0400
From: "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Portnoy video-the new one
Message-ID: <000501bf4703$2b719040$37351ec8@yunque.net>
----- Original Message -----
]From: Beck, James <James.Beck@medec.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 9:39 AM
Subject: Portnoy video-the new one
>
> Since I am a non-drummer and currently cannot afford to purchase the
video's
> myself, would anybody be willing to tape them for me if I supply the tapes
> and a nominal fee? Just curious. Email privately.
>
> James
I havent tried it yet, but im pretty sure it has that macrovision (?)
encoding thing that prevents videos to be copied... i know Jp's video has
something like this.since all the copies ive tried to make have come out
scrambled..has anyone succcesfully copied the jp vid?
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