YTSEJAM Digest 5224
Today's Topics:
1) Re: The Wall Live(No DTC)
by crow <crow@ccpl.carr.org>
2) Jerry
by Portnoy420@aol.com
3) Sonnier Brothers
by Michael Kizer <fugazi777@yahoo.com>
4) Pain of Salvation
by Stephen LaMonica <sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5223
by Compadre32@aol.com
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5222
by Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5220
by "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com>
8) New DT .GIF
by Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
9) FW: DT .gif for download and use in any site!
by "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
10) Extreme Reunion Campaign
by Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5223
by Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5220
by "J?rgen C. Bakken" <easy2beat@hotmail.com>
13) Atlanta-area note for Dec. 12th
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
14) PF/turtles
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
15) primus
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
16) Re: New PLANET X Demo now available!
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
17) deliberative bodies
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
18) Re: interview with the vampire
by "Cassiano P. Barbosa" <cassi.b@uol.com.br>
19) TSO ticket giveaway (Philly)
by WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersv.edu>
20) US Tour info....
by ToxicSheep@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 16:15:54 -0500
From: crow <crow@ccpl.carr.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: The Wall Live(No DTC)
Message-ID: <384D790A.C0FE1436@ccpl.carr.org>
>
> Thanks. lol. I was probably gonna get the thing anyway but it was just a
> matter of when really! I'll probably wait a little while though. Last I heard
> though, they were planning on releasing a live Wall album recorded in the
> early 80's and including some stuff that's not on the original. Anybody hear
> anything new on this?
> -Mike
The last word I heard on this is that the release date had been pushed back to mid-Feb. Below is
all the details I have that were contained in the original post I received about this cd.
> From: Yahoo! Music
> ==========================
>
> NEWS FLASH: Pink Floyd Releasing New Live Wall LP
>
> In celebration of the 20th anniversary of prog-rockers Pink Floyd's
> classic 1979 concept album The Wall, EMI Records will release a new live
> version of the work, recorded in 1980 and '81.
>
> Is There Anybody Out There? The Wall Live (Dec. 1) will contain "extra
> tracks not previously available on CD," according to an EMI press
> release. But EMI representatives said Friday (Oct. 15) they don't yet
> know what those tracks will be. The 1982 movie version of The Wall
> included several songs that were not on the original album.
>
> An all-star live performance of The Wall, staged by Floyd
> bassist/lyricist Roger Waters in 1990, was captured on the album The
> Wall Live in Berlin(1990). That album featured performances by Van
> Morrison, Bryan Adams, Sinead O'Connor and the Scorpions.
>
> Many details of the new release, which will be a double-CD, are still
> sketchy, a label spokesperson said.
>
> Longtime Pink Floyd cover designer Storm Thorgerson, known for his
> psychedelic style, will design new art for the album, according to EMI.
>
> Tracks for the new live album will be compiled from Pink Floyd's '80 and
> '81 Wall shows in London, which were recorded on a 48-track mobile
> studio.
>
> During those shows, a giant wall was constructed in front of the band as
> it performed. The wall came down during the finale. The shows also used
> puppets and animated films to help illustrate the album's story line.
>
> The Wall, which spawned the hit single "Another Brick in the Wall Part
> 2" and spent 15 weeks at #1 on the Billboard albums chart in 1980, was
> largely the work of Waters, who left the band in 1984. The album and the
> subsequent movie, which starred former Boomtown Rats frontman Bob Geldof
> told the tale of an alienated rock star known as "Pink."
>
> A remastered version of the movie "The Wall," with previously unseen
> footage, will be released Nov. 9 on VHS and DVD.
>
> Several Pink Floyd fans said they were excited to hear about the
> release, which will be the band's first since Pulse (1995), also a live
> album.
>
> "The Wall show was one of the most amazing ever staged, and the live
> version was, in many ways, better than the studio version," English fan
> Phil Beckett, 46, wrote in an e-mail.
..just trying to fill inthe information gaps for all the `jammers.
Chris
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:02:41 EST
From: Portnoy420@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Jerry
Message-ID: <0.4ba088f2.257ede01@aol.com>
And of course, the swing section of UAGM... and "I can keep Terry
alive" (I'm assuming terry Brown, naturally) -- you guys seem to be
having so much fun!>>>>
That was directed at "Jerry" (our soundguy)
MP
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 14:00:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Kizer <fugazi777@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Sonnier Brothers
Message-ID: <19991207220057.13929.qmail@web114.yahoomail.com>
While here in Austin, TX for biz, I happened into a
bar where the Sonnier Brothers were playing. In case
you don't know, Dane Sonnier is ex-Galactic Cowboys'
guitarist. Also, playing drums for them was Alan Doss'
replacement for the last tour, Eric(?). The new band
is a blues/rock type band (ala SRV). I got a chance to
talk to them for quite a while (really friendly and
down to earth guys), and they both were shocked that
someone knew them from their work with the Cowboys.
Dane told me the reason he left the band was that he
had just gotten tired of the music business and the
music that the Cowboys were playing.
He said he is really happy now just staying &
performing around his home town of Houston (although
they did venture over to Austin for this one gig).
Eric was a little miffed about the whole Galatic
Cowboys / Metal Blade situation he was in. I guess he
was hired for the last GC tour (since Alan quit after
the album was done) and got screwed around with by the
label (monetarily). I guess it snowballed from there
into a big fiasco between him and the label/band. So I
guess we won't be seeing him playing with GC in the
future. BTW, his drum set was freaky... he was using a
standard 5 piece small kit, but with weird looking
African drums for his kick and toms. Sounded pretty
cool though... He said he just wanted to be different.
;-)
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:43:19 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen LaMonica <sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Pain of Salvation
Message-ID: <199912072243.RAA12974@polaris.sju.edu.sju.edu>
I just heard a few clips of Pain of Salvation, One Hour by the Concrete Lake
on CDnow.......I promptly ordered it after that!!! There was another cd called
Entropia by them.....but it didn't have any clips.....anybody own it out there?
Steve
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:48:38 EST
From: Compadre32@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5223
Message-ID: <0.595788e1.257ee8c6@aol.com>
I was wondering...................what is a really good mp3 site for
marillion stuff??
i have yet to find one that is to my liking
btw.....are there any phish jammerz out there in the ytsejam world??
very progressive IMHO...
-compadre-
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 15:43:55 -0800
From: Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5222
Message-ID: <19991207.154356.219.0.willeyatc@juno.com>
I got the PMU medely from .mit.edu and it is great!!!!! It is so freakin
funny... I still wanna know what the bet was Mike P!!! let us in on it
man! Anyway, it's a 16 MB file and it took a while to dowload on a T1
line.... But all worth it I think!
YtseJon
> Some guy mentioned all those fun parts were in Luxembourg gig, go
> download it
> from Bogie's site (http://dreamtheater.mit.edu). I haven't had time
> to listen
> to it, so can't confirm this.
>
> =====
> Janne Jokitalo
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 01:06:49 +0100
From: "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5220
Message-ID: <199912080106490500.000ACA89@post.hem.hu>
Hi Michael Wei=DF!
>>At the center of fire there is cold/ all that glitters ain't gold
>AHHHH, I=B4m getting nuts. Where the hell do i know this. PLEASE help me,
i
>just cant remember who wrote it, although i got it somewhere.
Err... I think I just saw the vid of the song on the Hungarian Music
channel.
It was a Prince song, but I am not sure...
Bye
ZZZZZ
mailto:zeusz@bigfoot.com UIN:7315852 HP:http://RS.irisz.hu/zeusz
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:05:08 -0800
From: Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: New DT .GIF
Message-ID: <19991207.170509.219.1.willeyatc@juno.com>
Hey,
I have "created" a new DT .Gif animation that spans the "Official"
releases of DT. It's nothing big and it is only 68K but it is kinda cool.
If you want to post it on your site as a link to DT's sites, etc.. just
do it! It is for free use!!! I'm not that big on "exclusive content" on a
website... I was experimenting with a new Animation program and came up
with this after doing some scanning of CD's... I am not allowed to send
attatchments to these lists so you have to go to the following site and
log in to get it under "DT Graphics"
here is the site: http://www.egroups.com/docvault/themirror/
Enjoy and email me if you put the gif on your site!!!!
ytseJon
Jonathan Willey, ATC
WSU
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 22:20:28 -0600
From: "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
To: <jmsouter@airmail.net>
Subject: FW: DT .gif for download and use in any site!
Message-ID: <000501bf4133$8e8e6f20$223c88cf@jammer>
-----Original Message-----
]From: Jonathan Willey [mailto:jdwilley@wsu.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 7:10 PM
Subject: DT .gif for download and use in any site!
Hey,
I have "created" a new DT .Gif animation that spans the "Official" releases
of DT. It's nothing big and it is only 68K but it is kinda cool. If you want
to post it on your site as a link to DT's sites, etc.. just do it! It is for
free use!!! I'm not that big on "exclusive content" on a website... I was
experimenting with a new Animation program and came up with this after doing
some scanning of CD's... I am not allowed to send attachments to these lists
so you have to go to the following site and log in to get it under "DT
Graphics"
here is the site: http://www.egroups.com/docvault/themirror/
Enjoy and email me if you put the gif on your site!!!!
ytseJon
Jonathan Willey, A.T.C.
jdwilley@wsu.edu
Washington State University Athletic Medicine
Pullman, WA 99163
Psalm 27:1
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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 23:44:26 -0600
From: Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Extreme Reunion Campaign
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991207234426.0081c0d0@umav04.udem.edu.mx>
For those who where Extreme fans there's an Extreme Reunion Campaign at
http://www.cherone.com
I dont think this will work since Nuno Has Mourning Widows and Pat Badger
has Supertransatlantic...
also Mike Mangini seems to be having fun playing with other people....but
who knows...better give it a try.
--- Don't talk unless you can improve the silence.Alan Estrada Adler, ICQ #9267174 Monterrey, Mexico --------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 21:49:31 +0100 From: Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5223 Message-ID: <384D72DB.9053FF97@siol.net>
>Did anyone notice that the *Dance* of Eternity is in fact the least >danceable song on the whole CD? I think it goes through so many time >signature changes that it's impossible for anyone to keep pace. >And also - isn't the dance of eternity supposed to be love? Very cha- >otic love indeed if you see how DT depicts it.
And you call yourself a prog fan...can't dance to TDOE...*pih* :)
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 00:33:22 PST From: "J?rgen C. Bakken" <easy2beat@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5220 Message-ID: <19991208083322.90390.qmail@hotmail.com>
]From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Versital Does anyone have Attention Defecit from Magna Carta? What's it like? I liked Skolnick with Savatage, but this seems way different. Kurt NP-Fates Warning Paralells Well, a friend of mine got AD and it's a wierd jazz/fuscion-"version" of LTE. When he bought it he listend to it and asked the salesman: "What is this, it's wierd?" "Well, eh, they wasen't... maybe. .. they probarbly was... eh, they wasen't sober during recording." So there. I've listened to it, and it's cool. Buy it! Respond to "ytsejam@iname.com". JCBakken, Norway.
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 00:37:59 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Atlanta-area note for Dec. 12th Message-ID: <199912080837.AA03515@crl.crl.com>
Atlanta-area Ytsejammers and progheads might want to take note of the Atlanta Record Show on Sunday the 12th. This is the almost-monthly record show, and I know at least one prog/power specialty dealer will be there -- along with others who deal in, ahem, rare, live imports and (cough cough) videos......
Starts at around 10am and ends at around 4pm, at the Ramada North Central (I-85 at Piedmont/Monroe/etc.).
-- + Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com www.crl.com/~vanyel ICQ #4151223+ | Rush * Robert Jordan * Godhead * Michael Moorcock * Changelings | | James P. Hogan * Dream Theater * Robert Heinlein * NIN * Dead | | Can Dance * Patrick O'Brian * Ozric Tentacles * Raymond Feist....|
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 01:12:09 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: PF/turtles Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA01CB51DA@ms.kallback.com>
> Last I heard > though, they were planning on releasing a live Wall album recorded in the > early 80's and including some stuff that's not on the original. Anybody > hear > anything new on this? Pushed back to at least Feb. > > >And also - isn't the dance of eternity supposed to be love? Very cha- > >otic love indeed if you see how DT depicts it. > it's the 3rd of three dances. At least one of the others (Deceit) > is very convoluted. First Dancing Turtle=Death Second Dancing Turtle=?
Trevor is listening to A Flock of Seagulls
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 01:17:58 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: primus Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA01CB51DB@ms.kallback.com>
> I had to change my plans and need to get rid of a ticket for the New > Year's > Eve Primus show in Oakland. I'll sell it at a major discount if any > jammers are interested. Email me privately. Ooh, major flashback of almost being crushed to death at the Primus show at the San Francisco Civic Center on New Years Eve. Does anyone know what year that was? I know it was early '90's and Mr. Bungle opened.
Trevor remembers it's time for his Metamucil.
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 09:29:22 +0000 (GMT) From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: New PLANET X Demo now available! Message-ID: <496d1fd8bcgraham@picsel.com>
> From: Chroma914@aol.com > Subject: New PLANET X Demo now available!
> - The cost of the demo (and shipping) is US $20 for those living in the > United States, and US $25 for those living in the rest of the country.
The rest of *which* country?
-- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 07:37:37 PST From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: deliberative bodies Message-ID: <19991208153737.88326.qmail@hotmail.com>
>I was right then. Cool. I tried reading the Silmarillion a long time ago, >and couldn't get very far. I might try again after I finish my second >read >of LOTR.
I still haven't made it past page 71 of the fellowship of the ring....i guess I'll wait for the movie :)
speaking of which.....I watched The Thin Red Line yesterday, a really nice movie, that one. Couldn't help but comparing it to Saving Private Ryan. Came up with the following idea. SPR, with Spielberg pouring on the gung-ho USA ALL THE WAY! messages, and dehumanizing the Germans at every opportunity, was a WAR movie, while Malick's vision of world war 2, with all its spiritualistic excess, deliberate pacing, etc. stands up as an ANTI-WAR movie
the first of these hits you over the head, while the latter tries to get into it.....don't know which i liked better.........
apologies for the waaaay off topic musings
partha
(oh, and hey, what a deal on the planet x demo, huh? $20 bucks for people in the US, and $25 for those living in the rest of the country!)
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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 13:40:34 -0200 From: "Cassiano P. Barbosa" <cassi.b@uol.com.br> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: interview with the vampire Message-ID: <384D2A72.D44063E3@uol.com.br>
Scott wrote: > Yah, it's pretty cool, but what I like the best is this line: > > "Virgil plays in 7/4 and 5/4 and 13/11 but he makes it feel like a 4/4, > where a lot of drummers will switch sections in an odd time signature and it > doesn't sound right. Virgil is a natural at making it all sound right." > > Hell, I knew Virgil was good.....but to invent a new sig and still make it > feel like 4/4 - that's just godly..... Hey Portnoy - there'd better be some > 13/11 played on the tour or else Virgil's my main man from now on! ;-)
Maybe it's just a typo... I actually think he meant "Virgil plays at 7/11" or something like that... :)
[]'s Cassiano
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 11:36:13 -0500 From: WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersv.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: TSO ticket giveaway (Philly) Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19991208112602.00c22380@cs.millersv.edu>
Figuring it probably interests a number of you out there -- a pair of tickets will be given away to Trans-Siberian Orchestra's December 12th concert at the Tower in Upper Darby, PA, tonight on Lancaster County's only progmetal radio show, "Pull Me Under". Program runs from 10pm-1am (EST) -- all ya need to do to claim 'em is call WIXQ when TSO gets played sometime during the course of the show (probably within the first hour or so). Numbers are (717) 872-3518 and 3519.
Good luck!
Brian
[NP...Fear of Pop -- Volume 1]
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 14:25:56 EST From: ToxicSheep@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: US Tour info.... Message-ID: <0.717245ae.25800ac4@aol.com>
I got this from stevemorse.com...
"Hello all, the first dates for the upcoming Dream Theater, Dixie Dregs tour should be known by early next week. The opening act is still undetermined. It is known that it will start west of the Mississippi and will be in Los Angeles for the NAMM Show. The Dregs lineup will be Steve, Rod, T, Dave and Jerry, but Andy will also be playing on many of the dates. "
So all you on the West Coast get the first taste in the US. Damnit, I'm in PA...oh well :) It says the 3rd act is undetermined, but I thought I heard that it might be Spock's Beard ....any truth to that?
adaM
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