YTSEJAM Digest 4652
Today's Topics:
1) An evil joke...
by "fateswarm ." <mlnglst@hotmail.com>
2) An evil joke...
by "fateswarm ." <mlnglst@hotmail.com>
3) get a fucking clue
by Calvin6S@aol.com
4) J, J, J, J & M
by "Jonas Opsal" <jonasops@online.no>
5) RE: J, J, J, J & M
by "Jonas Opsal" <jonasops@online.no>
6) Ebay - lie about IaW
by "Gilberto Bressan Junior" <gbressanjr@sti.com.br>
7) Possible tours...
by "Michael Patrick" <civilwar@my-dejanews.com>
8) DT99 Production...LTE2...
by Dave Ware <dware@walker.com>
9) Album tips
by "Gallop, Neil" <nga@software-ag.de>
10) The best bit is...
by "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
11) Met II already rec. (again)
by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
12) Re: eggcookingly high vocals
by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
13) WOODSTOCK 30TH ANNIVERSRY
by Michael.Verstraete@mail.ryersontull.com
14) Re: mp3s
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
15) kung fu radio
by Dave M Klint <davek@csh.rit.edu>
16) re: My God this can't be true (NDTC)
by "Geoffrey Simmons" <radharc@aculink.net>
17) Re: Theater-Fates touring together
by MaxArbot@aol.com
18) Re: My God this can't be true (NDTC)
by Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
19) Jordan and the Dregs (DTC), Boot-osis
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 03:40:56 PST
From: "fateswarm ." <mlnglst@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: An evil joke...
Message-ID: <19990205114056.11334.qmail@hotmail.com>
How many Dream Theater members does it take to change a lamb?
None. Jordan's baldness shines.
BUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! ...eemmm... Theater rule anyway.
- fateswarm
Epigram for the last straw - http://listen.to/progmetal
"...I am only acting as a mirror to your life,
in which you can see yourself as you are;
then you can throw away the mirror;
the mirror is not important..."
J. Krishnamurti
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 03:41:04 PST
From: "fateswarm ." <mlnglst@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: An evil joke...
Message-ID: <19990205114104.5700.qmail@hotmail.com>
How many Dream Theater members does it take to change a lamb?
None. Jordan's baldness shines.
BUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! ...eemmm... Theater rule anyway.
- fateswarm
Epigram for the last straw - http://listen.to/progmetal
"...I am only acting as a mirror to your life,
in which you can see yourself as you are;
then you can throw away the mirror;
the mirror is not important..."
J. Krishnamurti
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:16:14 EST
From: Calvin6S@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: get a fucking clue
Message-ID: <a295be1b.36bae10e@aol.com>
Can the remarks about Jordan's hair stop? If Jordan has started to read the
jam, then I'm sure everytime he gets excited by a nice remark about his skills
- he gets slammed back down by a hair remark. What the FUCK? Don't you guys
know when to draw the line? What purpose does it serve?
Atleast when people talk about how they hate/like songs or mention that they
wish "______" would be released it can be constructive. Atleast the band can
use that as feedback (even if some border on being downright rude.
I will say that Jordan looked much better in concert than he did on his
website pics, but I think its mainly because you see Jordan's emotions when he
plays. Jordan also looked younger in person. His hair looked good in person.
It really is just a fucked up subject.
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:48:05 +0100
From: "Jonas Opsal" <jonasops@online.no>
To: "Jonas Rindal Opsal" <jonasops@online.no>,
Subject: J, J, J, J & M
Message-ID: <000b01be5105$cf551aa0$a1e74382@default>
J, J, J, J & M!
John, John, James, Jordan & Mike.......
Anyone know a good drummer named
J*something* ?
Ahh! Forget about it. I guess he would have
to be really good . Ehh.. Not good, GOD!
ps. And yea, I know It's really:
J, J-P, K-J, J & M-S!
: )
Jonas Opsal
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My Dream Theater page:
http://home.sol.no/~janopsal/dt/
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:53:47 +0100
From: "Jonas Opsal" <jonasops@online.no>
To: "The YtseJam mailinglist" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: RE: J, J, J, J & M
Message-ID: <001b01be5106$a36966c0$a1e74382@default>
I forgot! I play the drums!
J, J, J, J & J! The J's!
"Dream Theater" is too long anyway...
And Mike, you can come to our
shows! I'll send you tickets! : )=20
Jonas Opsal
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My Dream Theater page:
http://home.sol.no/~janopsal/dt/
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:26:42 -0200
From: "Gilberto Bressan Junior" <gbressanjr@sti.com.br>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Ebay - lie about IaW
Message-ID: <00e801be510b$2f514d20$befee6c8@bretel>
Found it at EBay:
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DREAM THEATER [IMAGE AND WORDS] LP!!! You might be a big fan of DREAM
THEATER, and you would know that their 2nd. album is the best. But, do you
know [IAW] has released as LP only in South Korea? In fact, Korea was just
stopping their LP produce at that time, and [IAW] was just the final LP
issue in Korea. Now this album is very rare, even in Korea. So this album is
not so cheap. Highest bidder win the prize, and 8$ add for shipping, buyer
pays. hope you could enjoy this music.
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Bullsh*t , the Vinyl version of IaW was also released here in Brazil
the actual bid is 50 bucks, thank god I gave my copy to my girfriend :P
Gilberto
Np - Steve Morse - High Tension wires
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 13:53:16 -0000
From: "Michael Patrick" <civilwar@my-dejanews.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Possible tours...
Message-ID: <GIJDMICNEPCHAAAA@my-dejanews.com>
Yeah, DT and Fates would be great (again)...IF Dt gets the album out this years (probably Fall, right?) and...IF Fates gets theirs out (again, probably Fall, right?)
And consider this...
The Beard has their new album coming out this Spring...and Enchant should have another out (again, probably Fall) this year as well...
Woooohooooo!!!!
Mike
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:35:35 -0600
From: Dave Ware <dware@walker.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: DT99 Production...LTE2...
Message-ID: <82CD0BD64E68D211BDA00060975B3ACF0331F8@BHAM-XCHG1.immpower.com>
Hey,
There was a little talk about who was going to produce DT99 (as
it's being called). MP suggested that DT themselves would have control,
I just noticed (on UACM Bio Page) that JR produced an album called
Romscape. Does this suggest that JR has had previous experience in this
area...? On another note - I've been avidly listening to the live LTE
MP3's from the LITS web site (a very kicking site!). My thoughts on the
new ones - I think the next LTE will kick my arse much more than the
first, Biaxident is just absolutely fantastic, JR is gonna be so good on
DT99, I know it. Just one last thing - there's an "Improv-Jam" on there
(which sounds quite well rehersed to me) and JP is doing some crazy
stuff at the beginning and I just feel it's too good a riff to be lost,
I hope it gets recycled.
Chuggy,Chuggy,Chuggy,Chuggy,Woo-Hoo,Woo-Hoo,Chuggy,Chuggy,Chuggy,Chuggy,
Woo-Hoo,Woo-Hoo....
Ahhh...I digress...
Dave (a UK jammer - now in Alabama).
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:36:20 +0100
From: "Gallop, Neil" <nga@software-ag.de>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Cc: "Gallop, Neil" <nga@software-ag.de>
Subject: Album tips
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Hi all
I bought 2 new albums yesterday, both of which will be of interest to
some or all of you:
ACRON - Labyrinth Of Fears
MY INSANITY - Still Dreams In Violent Areas
ACRON is an Italian prog/metal band. My first impression after 4 -5
listenings is somewhere between "Images And Words" Dream Theater,
Black Jester and Vauxdvihl. This is one of the best new prog bands and
albums that I've heard in a long time. Some of the stuff has a very strong
"Metropolis" feel about it.
MY INSANITY are a sort of melodic and gothic (but not black)
version of Samael and Alastis. Has the usual good feel of Woodhouse
Studios and Waldemar Sorychta about it.
Detailed reviews to follow, but I can recommend ACRON here and
now without reservation.
stay sage and happy listening
Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de)
Currently playing: Dr. Feelgood - Down By The Jetty
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I bought 2 new albums yesterday, both of which will be of interest to</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>ACRON - Labyrinth Of Fears</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>MY INSANITY - Still Dreams In Violent Areas</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>ACRON is an Italian prog/metal band. My first impression after 4 -5</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>listenings is somewhere between "Images And Words" Dream Theater,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Black Jester and Vauxdvihl. This is one of the best new prog bands and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>albums that I've heard in a long time. Some of the stuff has a very strong</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>"Metropolis" feel about it.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>MY INSANITY are a sort of melodic and gothic (but not black)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>version of Samael and Alastis. Has the usual good feel of Woodhouse</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Studios and Waldemar Sorychta about it.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Detailed reviews to follow, but I can recommend ACRON here and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>now without reservation.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>stay sage and happy listening</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de)</FONT>
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:43:10 GMT
From: "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
To: the Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: The best bit is...
Message-ID: <360150ABA@sdk1.derby.ac.uk>
Something's occurred to me. There's a lot of people saying how this
next record will be what DT's really all about, and how great it is
that they've got JR, and that they're self-producing...
Of course, that means that if people are unsatisfied with what
they get, as some were with FII whether they admit it or not,
there'll be no producer, or "temp keyboardist", to blame...
Just a thought or two. Also:
>>think we all need to remember that we're FANS, not EMPLOYERS.
>On the other hand, where would they be without us? I would
>actually go as far as to say that we are employers. That doesn't
>mean we have the
I think a better term would be "Shareholders" rather than
"Employers". We can't tell DT what to do, but we can sure as hell
make a lot of noise if we don't like what they do. Assuming, of
course, that we all stop flaming each others opinions for long enough
for everyone to agree!!
Finally:
>I'm not taking sides in "what keyboard player sux and who
>don't" but I must confess that I experienced Derek on the Awake
>Tour and I was impressed with the Jazzy, Bluesy playing he added
Really? You *experienced* Derek on the Awake tour? [Si creakily
arches one eyebrow in the Roger Moore stylee] You lucky boy...I know
DT do a lot for their fans, but I never realised...
Seriously though, on 6:00 on my 5YIaL, the keys are inaudible?
What went wrong? But then again, JM's inaudible on a lot of the live
album/vid as well...
Si
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:00:53 +0100
From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Met II already rec. (again)
Message-ID: <36BB07A5.BF2E1D38@unet.univie.ac.at>
hey there
<<And I believe Mike said in his own words that it had been recorded.>>
you're right. that is, as long as Mike's announcement in an interview
with a german magazine were true. i put it on the jam some time ago.
there he said it's recorded and only waitin to be released.
nuff said
(i need where are you now, the studio demo, please Mike!!!! just kiddin)
Dryheat
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:05:16 +0100
From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: eggcookingly high vocals
Message-ID: <36BB08AB.E2E12A51@unet.univie.ac.at>
hey duke
heard that stuff from Maria (though i dont have it oc)
well yea it must be harmonized.
but what on earth is this compared to Jim Gillette??
Dryheat
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Date: Friday, 5 February 1999 7:15am CT
From: Michael.Verstraete@mail.ryersontull.com
To: YTSEJAM@axnet.net
Subject: WOODSTOCK 30TH ANNIVERSRY
Message-ID: <m108mkL-0001tSC@jtrgo>
YESTERDAY IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT THIS SUMMER IN ROME NEW YORK THERE WILL BE A
30TH ANNIVERERY WOODSTOCK FESTIVAL. SO FAR NO ACTS ARE ANNOUNCED FOR THE N.Y.
SHOW BUT METALLICA ARE SLATED TO DO A EUROPE WOODSTOCK. NOW WOULD BE THE TIME
TO CAMPAIN TO GET DREAM THEATER ON THE BILL.
MIKE
HOMEWKS@SOUND.NET
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:13:58 -0200 (EDT)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: mp3s
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9902051309030.15603-100000@jaca>
On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Andrew Coutermarsh wrote:
> Do you hear how Winamp plays your files? That's how good it decodes to a
> wave file. It writes the wave file exactly the same way it plays them; it
> just writes it to a file instead of to your sound card. Trust me, Winamp
> is probably one of the best wav-writers on the market.
Like Daniel J. Bernstein <www.pobox.com/~djb> would say in a
situation like this: "Don't speculate."
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 10:12:18 -0500 From: Dave M Klint <davek@csh.rit.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: kung fu radio Message-ID: <199902051512.KAA21811@elwood.csh.rit.edu>
Someone proposed a few jams ago what might happen if DT ever came on the radio. Now I may be a dolt, but I remember back around the year that I&W was released PMU and UaGM were both on regular rotation on WZRQ zrock, which is (was) a nationally syndicated radio station. It actually was DT's radio play that got me into them. DT has been on the radio, not much, but they have. Now, I don't think a band should ever produce "suitable, radio-sounding music" (FZ) just so they get exposure, but wouldn't it be awesome to hear some of the next album on the airwaves?
-davek
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:17:31 -0700 From: "Geoffrey Simmons" <radharc@aculink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: re: My God this can't be true (NDTC) Message-ID: <199902051517.IAA20120@ganymede.aculink.net>
Cyberduke, I believe any human can reach that note, depending on the amount of helium inhaled, and the amount of pressure put on an ingrown toenail ;o)
-Geoffrey
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:33:25 EST From: MaxArbot@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Theater-Fates touring together Message-ID: <e89d27d.36bb0f45@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/5/99 5:50:06 AM Central Standard Time, ytsejam@ax.com writes:
<< I'll do anything to see that. Anyone else with the same dream here? >>
A wet dream...
Sorry, that was crude.
[eriC]
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 11:05:12 -0500 From: Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: My God this can't be true (NDTC) Message-ID: <36BB16B8.1249AA62@frontierlogic.com>
Geoffrey Simmons wrote: > > Cyberduke, I believe any human can reach that note, depending on the amount > of helium inhaled, and the amount of pressure put on an ingrown toenail ;o)
Actually, I think that actual note was produced when Mariah's producer reached inside and tied her Uterus into a sailor's knot!
-mojo
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:17:26 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Jordan and the Dregs (DTC), Boot-osis Message-ID: <36BB1996.2847@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Rahul wrote: > Lastly, some actual content...I keep hearing that Jordan toured/ > performed with the Dixie Dregs. Are there any recordings of > his sojourn with Morse and Co. floating around someplace? I'm > a big DD fan, but haven't found anything released by them with > Jordan on keys.
He toured in support of the Full Cirlce tour. Lavtiz was on keys on the disc of the same name, which was released. I'd be very interested as well of anything out there. The Holy Grail would be any recorded material of the spontaneous jam that he and Rod did when the power cut out on all but the keys, during one of those shows.
Janne wrote: > To me it looks like they already had decided back then that he would be the > perfect keyboard player for DT but since Jordan had to turn the offer down > for personal matters, DT had to settle for someone else.
If anyone's interested in Jordan's words, I found the following:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Excerpt from http://www.mediusvision.com/jordan/story.html~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When it rains it pours!!... In the course of one week I got a call from "Dream Theater" and the "Dixie Dregs". I had about one week to transcribe the music and program all the sounds for an upcoming Dregs tour. On top of that I did the same with Dream Theater's music because I had an audition with them two days before going out to Steve Morse's house for rehearsal. I had a great whirlwind experience with Dream Theater, and actually performed at the Concrete Music Convention with them. When the storm blew over I decided to join the Dregs, and stay on for all the upcoming tours. That was not an easy decision! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Excerpt from http://www.mediusvision.com/jordan/story.html~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
As tough a decision as it was at the time, it turned out to be a win-win situation in this fans' opinion. Look at all the good music that came out of it as a result of that decision!! The gig with Steve Morse which brought about the stuff he did with Rod, DT with Derek (don't go there, fool!), LTE, LTE live. And now he's kinda come full circle (pun intended :). For me this whole thing concept of musicians doing these side projects is a dream come true!
Maybe LTE was done in a week 'cuz it's _Jordan_ that's the maniac slave driver :))))
Jordan with Mike in a headlock: "God Damnit, I fookin' told you I wanted 12th note paradiddleeedoos at 300 beats per minute, with the JUST the third leg!!!"
Myung loses it, grabs Jordan by the throat: "RELAX, newbie....don't make me have to speak again!"
Petrucci turns the monitor towards the children, cranks the volume up to 12 and rips out an unexplained riff. The sound waves launch the three across the room.
James, using the caribou for a shield, is unaffected and launches a counter-offensive letting out a high pitched shreak. The two sound waves meet in the middle of the studio and begin battling it out, Jedi style... sound-proof glass shatters, anti-particles groove to the beat, mixing engineers bleed, record companies abandon. James and JP begin sweating profusely as they both approach the breaking point. Does this stop them? heh!! OFB, deities though they might be, continue on as they are under ORDERS from the fans...
An hour later, spent, they all get back up and add another 34 minutes to Metro 2A: Return of the Prog
>some low life is selling the LTE show of 21-01-99. This is pretty >uncool and amounts to near exploitation IMO.
Without gullible ass to receive boot, can there be pain? :) Without purchase, can you be exploited? "I will choose a path that's clear....yadda yadda yadda
Oh yeah, I'll be selling bootleg MPEG videos of the Year 2000 party. PAL FORMAT ONLY!!! I'm taking advance orders now to fund my little scam :) Why go out and party like it's 1999? The quality of these MPEGs will be better than actually being there. Please specify lat/lon coords of location you'd like a filmed. I have the master satellites under control and can instantly zoom in with crystal clarity to any location on the earth....MUAHAHAHAHAHA
Send e-mailto:www.wakethefuckup.com :)
Have a GREAT weekend!
Jon -- *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*
"A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules,often with the assistence of unsuspecting musicians." -- Frank Zappa
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