YTSEJAM Digest 4660
Today's Topics:
1) Pianos, Organs
by Chris Oates <coates@objectivity.com>
2) Re: Burger King can kiss my....
by AyameYuki@aol.com
3) Re: LIVE
by AyameYuki@aol.com
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4656
by PJgeorge@aol.com
5) Fates Warning webpage updates...
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
6) Derek Sherinian Interview
by Yes0001@aol.com
7) re: piano in prog
by "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com>
8) "Freebird"/ CD buying trip...
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
9) Cool Edit Pro
by Bert Baldwin <rcb@vectorbd.com>
10) For download: Uncovered
by Nick Bogovich <bogie@MIT.EDU>
11)
by Pieter.Serruys@hydro.com
12) you took away my heroin...
by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee>
13) Majesty Symbol
by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
14) Re: "Freebird"/ CD buying trip...
by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
15) LTE Roxy / LTE NAMM / Petrucci at NAMM / RPM-RMP NAMM videos !!
by Calvin6S@aol.com
16) Organs & spouts... Oh yeah, and braille.
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
17) Release of demo and currently unreleased DT material...
by "Emerson, Michael J." <memerson@mail.PWCG.com>
18) Correction
by "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil>
19) Ebay Rip-offs
by MusicSnob@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 18:45:20 -0800
From: Chris Oates <coates@objectivity.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Pianos, Organs
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19990208184518.00982100@objypop>
> > You know what would be real cool? Jordan using a REAL piano for
> > the studio recording of the next DT album. With good playback gear,
> > keyboard simulated piano sticks out like a turd in a punchbowl.
> > That really detracts from the overall experience. IMHO
I believe Kev used a real pano for Space Dye Vest. You can see it in the
pic of the studio, and if you listen really carefully to the end of the
song, you can hear the sustain pedal being released.
Also, I believe Derek used a real Hammond for the beginning of the FII
tours for the organ, but switched to the VK-7 later on. And the VK-7 does
do some great organ tone.
~Chris
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:51:55 EST
From: AyameYuki@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Burger King can kiss my....
Message-ID: <6f6a3c47.36bfb0db@aol.com>
that song " Loving You"...that loud note has GOT to either be a #C down to an
A natural. im sure of it. i saw the commericial enough times to make me want
to barf up their awful tasting fries ( mr. potato head can kiss my ass! ).
anyway, i do remember it. one word " damn".
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:55:03 EST
From: AyameYuki@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: LIVE
Message-ID: <39af6dc8.36bfb197@aol.com>
hey, i was listening to the live album on take the time...and i listened to
it in fastforward features..and i was chuckling at what KJB said " im soo
awfulllllll and you all suuucccckkkk " at least that was what I interpreted (
i may be wrong...:) ) and then i heard this high pitch "
hehehehehehehehheheheheheheheh" and then JM comes in with a bass lick that was
pretty damn cool.
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:14:59 EST
From: PJgeorge@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4656
Message-ID: <6c155449.36bfb643@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/8/99 8:50:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, ytsejam@ax.com
writes:
<< Yes it does concern me, that should be made available to all DT/LTE
fans,
not just the ones who have the cash to buy.
Internet Cop, bwahahahahaa.............. >>
Your right Jerky... but the point is if you read the DT Newsgroup I posted it
the day after doing 2 for 1.. Where was your E-Mail????
G!
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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 21:48:46 -0700
From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
To: "fates@listservant.com (Parallels List)" <fates@listservant.com>,
Subject: Fates Warning webpage updates...
Message-ID: <36BFBE2E.231F29F4@ivorygate.com>
Tons of new news from Jim Matheos! Solo album, new Fates material, potential
tour and more! see the News page...
New MIDI files added...
New "Link to" graphics for webmasters...
-- ~Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> <ICQ # 2070538> "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." - http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Come join the discussions in the new online Bulletin Board! <<<------------------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:44:44 EST From: Yes0001@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Derek Sherinian Interview Message-ID: <b1ca36cd.36bfbd3c@aol.com>
To commemorate Tuesday`s domestic release of Platypus, Music Street Journal is proud to be doing a special update. The update is an interview with Derek Sherinian. Derek discusses the Platypus project, the recent personnel changes in Dream Theater, working with Dream Theater, Kiss, Alice Cooper, his future projects and more. Check out this insightful interview at Music Street Journal www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Arena/9250/ . Email Yes0001@aol.com if you would like to be added to the notification list for the page.
Gary Music Street Journal
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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 21:21:06 PST From: "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: re: piano in prog Message-ID: <19990209052106.21079.qmail@hotmail.com>
>it's really rare that you hear a stunningly real >piano on a prog CD. I assume it's been done a lot > >The trouble is, I can't think of an album in the prog >realm with a real piano
eternity x - the edge genesis - selling england by the pound
couple good ones.. there's plenty more though
inferno
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 00:40:29 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: "Freebird"/ CD buying trip... Message-ID: <36E4B44D.C74C54FF@home.com>
> >>>On the OIAL version of "Metropolis", what is the song they break into near theend (about > 5:17)? It is some improv jam or is it a cover of another song?<<< > Nelaskon replied: > QUIT asking that!!! It's been said SO many times. > > Okay, sorry. I asked too. After it was already dead. It's Freebird (by Skynyrd?) Anyway, it > rocks out, but I don't listen to Skynyrd.
Yes, "Freebird" is by Lynyrd Skynyrd......... however, it's NOT at the end of "Metropolis" on OiaL. Try "Take the Time". As for the jam at the end of Met, I don't think it has a name, does it?
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Well..... ol' Joe spent some loot today on CD's.
First of all, I went to Media Play and I have a few questions/comments about stuff I saw;
- Who/what kind of music is Sven Vath? I saw this CD, and have never even heard of it before..... but the cover looked like it belonged on a prog CD or something. Just curious.
- How is Therion's Lepaca Kliffoth disc? Theli and Vovin kick ass, but I know they used to be a death-metal outfit. So how is Lepaca Kliffoth? "Death-ish"?
- Good God - how many damn Metallica singles can one place sell for Pete's sake???
- I Took a look at some Tori Amos CDs.... I've never heard anything by her, so could somebody point me in the direction of a webpage with MP3's or something? (damn I'm gonna feel like a stupid-fuck if the URL is toriamos.com, hehe)
- Does it just piss anybody off when you think of how hard bands like DT work, then you see like 500 facings of a CD that's probably popular just because of a "look". Case in point - They have a display the size of Nebraska of some CD by a girl named Britney Spears. I've never heard her, or even heard of her, but I'm gonna take a wild stab and say it's due to the fact she's very marketable because she looks like a million..... scratch that, SEVERAL million bucks. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
While I was there I figured it was a good time to increase my number of Iced Earth CDs, especially since they're in town in a few weeks. So I bought Night of the Stormrider. Well, after two listens I don't think it's as good as their last three (Burnt Offerings, The Dark Saga, and Something Wicked This Way Comes), but make no mistake: this is still a really good metal disc. I do miss Matthew Barlow on the vox on this one, but John Greely is actually not bad at all. I really have to urge anybody who likes good heavy metal to check out Iced Earth (the latest, Something Wicked This Way Comes is probably a good starting point).
I also placed a special order on Jag Panzer's latest, Age of Mastery. I don't know much about these guys, but I wanted to check some of their stuff out before I see them on 2/20 opening for Iced Earth.
When I got home, I placed an order with Laser's Edge for both Pain of Salvation CDs (One Hour By the Concrete Lake, and Entropia - both Japanese versions). I can't even tell you how anxious I am to hear these two discs!
Also, I figured what the hell...... why not go ahead and order The Quiet Room's Introspect CD. These guys are also opening for Iced Earth, and I'm curious to hear the disc. It's been described as Fates Warning-ish to me, and indeed it is a bit from what I heard (only two VERY SMALL .wavs).
Ah well, that was my excitement for the day, I know all you bastards don't care though.......... :)
- Joe D. aka Magellan jdeangelo@home.com ICQ # 1872723 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I swear on tomorrow- If you take this chance- Our lives are this moment The music, the dance- And here in this labyrinth- Of lost mysteries I close my eyes on this night- And you're all that I see - Savatage, from "Not What You See" -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 05:45:45 +0000 (UTC) From: Bert Baldwin <rcb@vectorbd.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Cool Edit Pro Message-ID: <Pine.SCO.3.95.990209054512.23470A-100000@vectorbd.vectorbd.com>
If anyone has a copy of Cool Edit Pro, please e=mail me privately. Thanks.
-- Bert
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 03:32:46 -0500 From: Nick Bogovich <bogie@MIT.EDU> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: For download: Uncovered Message-ID: <4.1.19990209033133.00ab8df0@po7.mit.edu>
Hey everyone,
The entire Uncovered show is now up at Lines in the Sand.
Enjoy.
-Bogie
Dream Theater - Lines in the Sand http://dreamtheater.mit.edu/ Featuring a new concert every week! (And more!)
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:26:05 +0100 From: Pieter.Serruys@hydro.com To: ytsejaM@axnet.net Message-ID: <41256713.0033D662.00@osla28smtp.hda.hydro.com>
>>>On the OIAL version of "Metropolis", what is the song they break into near theend (about 5:17)? It is some improv jam or is it a cover of another song?<<<
>>> QUIT asking that!!! It's been said SO many times.
>>> Okay, sorry. I asked too. After it was already dead. It's Freebird (by Skynyrd?) >>> Anyway, it rocks out, but I don't listen to Skynyrd.
Isn't Freebird played after TTT ? I thought it was a Pink Floyd tune they played after Metropolis.
Pieter
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:17:07 +0200 From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee> To: Nothing To Say <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: you took away my heroin... Message-ID: <199902091017.MAA01567@xyz.estcard.ee>
Hey, all
Has anybody noticed that subtle guitar part buried in the mix right when Zhum (the French pronounciation of James) LaBrie sings that "His final scene / the actor bows" part? If my ears heard correctly, which can't be taken to the bank, there is some really downright INSANE, MAD and CRAZY guitar playing going on there... Oh, Giovanni, what were you thinking? :-)
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:52:20 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Majesty Symbol Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9902091248570.11967-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Andrew Coutermarsh wrote:
> You know, that's really a good question - Why ISN'T the Majesty symbol on > the front cover of OiaLT? I can only say that it's probably because they > have it on the BACK cover. I see a Majesty symbol on the front cover of > Falling Into Infinity, but not on the back cover. I see a Majesty symbol > on the front cover of ACoS, but not on the back cover. So maybe they > decided to put it on the back of this album instead of the front cover > because of the particular artwork that was being used. That's the best > explanation I could think up.
Hmm... my explanation is that they just put it where they like. Remember LaTM: It's not on the front cover, neither on the back cover, it's on the disc itself...
On a sidenote... I only discovered the majesty symbol on the cover of FII a couple of months ago... That one must be the best hidden symbol on all of the albums (or did I miss some?)
Cheers
Zaphod
|Peter Geerts "...And for an encore, Man | |zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be proved that black is white | |ICQ: 13122363 (weekend) and got himself killed on | |Political Science Student the next zebra crossing..."| |Leuven University, Belgium (Douglas Adams) |
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:54:15 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: "Freebird"/ CD buying trip... Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9902091253290.11967-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Joe DeAngelo wrote:
> - Who/what kind of music is Sven Vath? I saw this CD, and have never > even heard of it before..... but the cover looked like it belonged on a > prog CD or something. Just curious.
Techno. Keep your hands off that one...
Nuff said.
Cheers
zaphod
|Peter Geerts "...And for an encore, Man | |zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be proved that black is white | |ICQ: 13122363 (weekend) and got himself killed on | |Political Science Student the next zebra crossing..."| |Leuven University, Belgium (Douglas Adams) |
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 06:57:41 EST From: Calvin6S@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: LTE Roxy / LTE NAMM / Petrucci at NAMM / RPM-RMP NAMM videos !! Message-ID: <d3dabe00.36c022b5@aol.com>
I've received quite a few requests for the initial LTE NAMM video and now I have some additions.
I have come up with the following video tape for trade: LTE Roxy 2/1/99 - 56 minutes LTE NAMM 1/31/99 - 51 minutes Petrucci at NAMM 1/31/99 - 10 minutes Total Tape time - 117 minutes
If you have already put in an email request for the LTE NAMM show, then you don't need to ask for LTE Roxy and Petrucci at NAMM. It fits on one tape at SP anyway so you will get all three.
I also have RPM/RMP (Rudess-Morgenstein Project) at NAMM 1/31/99. This video will not be included on the above tape for the obvious reason (only 120 minutes on a tape). This show is 28 minutes and has some nice overhead shots (close) of Jordan's hands. Very clean audio on this as well.
I have already purchased 50+ blank tapes (Maxell HGX-Gold T-120) to record these as well as borrowed a couple of VCRs so I can do multiple simultaneous copies. So I should be able to CHURN these out quickly.
If you don't have ANYTHING to trade, we can still work something out.
I will be out of state for 3 to 4 days, but I will make Sat/Sun (the day I return) a mega LTE tape trade day. Please don't think I am ignoring you if you haven't received a reply email yet.
Hopefully I haven't forgotten anything (its late, I'm tired). But I worked on updating my website. Please link to the following for MORE information if you are interested in this tape:
http://members.aol.com/calvin6s/LTE.htm
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 06:23:08 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Organs & spouts... Oh yeah, and braille. Message-ID: <36C028AC.33C6F70@isd.net>
Al wrote: > /Al does acknowledge the possibility that a sight impaired person can > access those stations from the left rear seat of a 4 door vehicle; > So it's not total buffoonery in the interest of "feel good" policy. > I'm sure the signs were intended for the sighted transporting the blind. > At least I hope so...
Jason Barden wrote: [they are here in Utah also. But consider this - how does the screen get [read?
When the blue & green guns fail.
/Al sticks tongue in cheek... But acknowledges the fact that he's questioned this himself. Damon, can you enlighten us?
Damon wrote: >News flash: that was not a real organ, but a Roland vk7 vitrtual tonewheel >keyboard. Before that it was a Korg unit that Derek cashed in. Derek did >use real leslie cabinets, though, and that organ sound is about authentic >as it gets, but it is not a real keyboard.
The newer keyboards are getting better, but NOTHING else sounds like a grand piano. The Hammond "B" & "M" class organs are also unmistakable. BTW, IMHO, dual Leslies fuckin' rule! That sound CAN'T be duplicated. But you know what really gives me a woody? (like you'd care) A full size pipe organ. Wakeman used one on YES's "Going for the one" Unfortunately, unless you've spent some serious coin on playback gear, you're never going to fully appreciate it.
Korgski bellowed: >I'm a little teapot, short and stout.
Yeah... Unzip your fly and out comes your spout. You really shouldn't be breeding, ya know?
NP: Al Stewart - "Year Of The Cat" -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:55:59 -0500 From: "Emerson, Michael J." <memerson@mail.PWCG.com> To: Under A Glass Ytse <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Release of demo and currently unreleased DT material... Message-ID: <BDBBCD37EA65D1119E9600A0C9982D75CDE6A5@PW03>
salutations!
i saw someone post recently that they remembered seeing something a while back about demo material being released through the fan clubs, but they didn't know who posted it...well, that was me...
i got to meet Mike backstage after the last holiday show, and one of the things i asked him was whether they (DT) were planning on putting out any more of the unreleased material from FII...this is, in a nutshell, what he told me...
..he said that they were going to try and work out something with the fan clubs to make unreleased material from ALL of their albums (not just FII) available to fan club members!
(NOTE: those of you who aren't already members of the fan club, you might want to get your memberships in soon!)
laters, all!
mikE :op ____________________________________________________________
"May God stand between you and harm In all the empty places where you must walk..."
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:22:31 -0500 From: "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil> To: "'cyaron@mailcity.com'" <cyaron@mailcity.com> Cc: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Correction Message-ID: <390762D98D63D2118C280060081358CC4146A5@HAMSXHA2>
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>>>On the OIAL version of "Metropolis", what is the song they break into near theend (about 5:17)? It is some improv jam or is it a cover of another song?<<<
QUIT asking that!!! It's been said SO many times.
Okay, sorry. I asked too. After it was already dead. It's Freebird (by Skynyrd?) Anyway, it rocks out, but I don't listen to Skynyrd.
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Actually, on Metropolis, what's played is a part of 'The Way It Used To Be' that was dropped from the final recording. Might want to get your info right next time. :)
Nicholas Giannotti x6745 Joint STARS Contracts giannottin@hanscom.af.mil ---------------------------------- Sometimes, a view from sinless eyes centers our perspective, and pacifies our cries Sometimes, the anguish we survive, and the mysteries we nurture, are the fabrics of our lives....
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:51:14 EST From: MusicSnob@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Ebay Rip-offs Message-ID: <8a0d63c3.36c04b62@aol.com>
Some moron is selling a CD-R (!!!) of the X-Mas cd for something like $20. That is complete and utter bullshit. It's not even the real cd! Then again the bidding for a Keel cd has reached $425, so what do I know?
NP: Carcass - Swansong
Kevin
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