YTSEJAM Digest 4661
Today's Topics:
1) Help (for your own sake)
by "Gallop, Neil" <nga@software-ag.de>
2) Therion's Lepaca Kliffoth
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
3) Re: Burger King can kiss my....
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
4) Re: "Freebird"/ CD buying trip...
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
5) DT at JAXX Feb18th
by Rocky Pulley <rpulley@pcdata.com>
6) Re: LTE Roxy / LTE NAMM / Petrucci at NAMM / RPM-RMP NAMM videos !!
by "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
7) vocal range, mtropolis on OiaL
by szebro1@gl.umbc.edu
8) Re: Ebay rip-off!!! (totally and unreservedly NDTC)
by Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com>
9) Re: LTE Roxy / LTE NAMM / Petrucci at NAMM / RPM-RMP NAMM videos !!
by "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
10) Tori Amos
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
11) Collective Soul
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
12) s-y-s
by "Joe Bissonnette" <Bissonnette@cdr.wisc.edu>
13) Re: ideally / a "look" / organ wood :)
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
14) new magna carta cds??
by Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
15) Cool edit pro
by Henrik Hansson <hehapoco@hem2.passagen.se>
16) Real Piano in prog
by Craig Griffith <tarkus@softhome.net>
17) Fates Warning
by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
18) Techno... *shudder*
by Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:16:00 +0100
From: "Gallop, Neil" <nga@software-ag.de>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Help (for your own sake)
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Hi all
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stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de)
Curently playing: Pantera - Cowboys From Hell
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:16:40 -0800
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Therion's Lepaca Kliffoth
Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F3BB6@ms.kallback.com>
> - How is Therion's Lepaca Kliffoth disc? Theli and Vovin kick ass,
> but
> I know they used to be a death-metal outfit. So how is Lepaca
> Kliffoth?
> "Death-ish"?
Yup! Cookie Monster city!!!
Danger! Danger, Will Robinson!
Actually the music is great if you can somehow tune out the vocals.
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:05:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
To: AyameYuki@aol.com
Subject: Re: Burger King can kiss my....
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9902091104060.21927-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> that song " Loving You"...that loud note has GOT to either be a #C down to an
> A natural. im sure of it. i saw the commericial enough times to make me want
> to barf up their awful tasting fries ( mr. potato head can kiss my ass! ).
> anyway, i do remember it. one word " damn".
the song "loving you" always brings me back to the south park
episode where the south park cows are playing the middle park cowboys. if
i remember correctly, the episode featured "big gay al's big gay boat
ride" and a half-time show featuring John Stamos's brother singing, of
course, Loving You. :)
- mike.
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:07:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
To: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
Subject: Re: "Freebird"/ CD buying trip...
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9902091106320.21927-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> Yes, "Freebird" is by Lynyrd Skynyrd......... however, it's NOT at the
> end of "Metropolis" on OiaL. Try "Take the Time". As for the jam at
> the end of Met, I don't think it has a name, does it?
Actually, according to MP, it's a section of "Where Are You Now"
which they threw away.
- mike.
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:29:22 -0500
From: Rocky Pulley <rpulley@pcdata.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: DT at JAXX Feb18th
Message-ID: <C13156D748AFD21184FF00105ACE6EB5078A14@pc113.pcdata.com>
Ok, so Dream Theater won't be there. But my band will, "Pitch Blende" we
play DT covers, we will probably also play 2 originals. here are the
covers we will play
Mirror
Lie
Caught In A Web
Metropolis
covers we might play:
Take The Time
6:00
Also, I think we are playing 1st, so it will probably be around 9 or 10.
So if you want, you can leave after you see us ;]
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Rocky Dean Pulley, MCSE
rpulley@pcdata.com
PC Data, Inc.
(703) 435-1025 x133
"You can feel the waves coming on,
Let them destroy you, or carry you on."
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:31:31 -0500
From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: LTE Roxy / LTE NAMM / Petrucci at NAMM / RPM-RMP NAMM videos !!
Message-ID: <003601be5449$a6b55500$3a1110ac@DEMCCOR.clemson.edu>
hey, calvin. i'd like to trade for that LTE tape.
]From: Calvin6S@aol.com <Calvin6S@aol.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 7:24 AM
Subject: LTE Roxy / LTE NAMM / Petrucci at NAMM / RPM-RMP NAMM videos !!
>If you don't have ANYTHING to trade, we can still work something out.
i have quite a few boots, but they're all commercially packaged, easily
available ones. i dunno if i have anything you want. please look over my
bootlist when you can (http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~demccor/boots/boots.htm)
and lemme know if i have anything you want. moo.
--Dan McCormack (dmc@dreamt.org) http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~demccor/
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:32:30 -0500 (EST) From: szebro1@gl.umbc.edu To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: vocal range, mtropolis on OiaL Message-ID: <199902091632.LAA1061372@gl.umbc.edu>
Mariah Carey does NOT have a seven octave vocal range. MAYBE there are 7 octaves between her lowest note and highest note, but she doesn't have everything in between. Yes, her voice is amazing. she's a freak. but not 7 octaves.
The high note in "Loving you" is an f, as reported on South Park. I know, because I know Richard Stamos can't hit it. :)
James LaBrie's lowest recorded note is (I think) a Bb an octave and a whole step below middle C (in the song "Saved by Love" from the Winter Rose CD). His highest recorded note is (I think) an f# an octave and an augmented 4th above middle c (on the Killing hand from LatM). That gives him almost three octaves. but let's quit this because i hate talking about range. I can sing as high as James and almost an octave lower. does that mean I'm as good as he is? no way.
The jam at the end of metropolis on OiaL is just some new jam the boys included. It's not Pink Floyd, it's not Freebird (that's in TTT), it's not Cupid's Dead (although one part sounds a LOT like it), it's not part of The Way it Used to Be. I think it's called Barfbag. =)
Steve Z
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 11:53:36 -0500 From: Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com> To: The Divine Wings of Ytse <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Ebay rip-off!!! (totally and unreservedly NDTC) Message-ID: <4.1.19990209114703.0093a540@pop.usefulware.com>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Kevin wrote: >Then again >the bidding for a Keel cd has reached $425, so what do I know?
Heh. One of the best things about that "It Came from the 80's" specials that were making the rounds on MTV awhile back was seeing what Ron Keel was up to these days. Ronnie Lee Keel, country singer, writer of "My Horse is a Harley". *sardonic laughter*
ta, Phil ================================================== Phil Carter -- Usefulware Tech Support -- phil@usefulware.com "Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." -- Berthold Auerbach
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:54:31 -0500 From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: LTE Roxy / LTE NAMM / Petrucci at NAMM / RPM-RMP NAMM videos !! Message-ID: <006b01be544c$dcecb2a0$3a1110ac@DEMCCOR.clemson.edu>
doh. that was supposed to be sent privately. go ahead, draw and quarter me... moo.
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:52:16 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Tori Amos Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649809261@messaging>
<<<<< - I Took a look at some Tori Amos CDs.... I've never heard anything by her, so could somebody point me in the direction of a webpage with MP3's or something? (damn I'm gonna feel like a stupid-fuck if the URL is toriamos.com, hehe) >>>>>
Well, the official site is - you almost got it - http://www.tori.com
Get "Under the Pink" or "Little Earthquakes" first. "Boys for Pele" is too weird for most people to start out with. The first two are more piano-vocal-that's-it oriented, where as BfP or "From the Choirgirl Hotel" are more electronic, with a band, etc. Also, get the Crucify and Hey Jupiter EP's. "Boys for Pele" is by far my favorite Tori album, but it all started with UtP.
(sometimes it pays to have a girlfriend that is THE Tori queen)
David Dixon, MCP Internet Developer Integrated Information Systems, Inc. david@iisweb.com ytsedave@asu.edu
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:00:23 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Collective Soul Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649809262@messaging>
The new Collective Soul disc, "Dosage", fucking rocks! If you like this band, or don't, it doesn't matter. Great songwriting (as usual), and they do a little "Nightmare Cinema" action: Drummer playing bass, bassist singing and playing drums, lead guitarist singing and songwriting, etc. Also, very, very cool guitar work from another Berklee alumnus (Ed Roland, vox, keys, guitar)....
David Dixon, MCP Internet Developer Integrated Information Systems, Inc. david@iisweb.com ytsedave@asu.edu
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:33:18 -0600 From: "Joe Bissonnette" <Bissonnette@cdr.wisc.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: s-y-s Message-ID: <86256713.005FDAF5.00@domino.cdr.wisc.edu>
Anybody ever heard of a band called s-y-s? Particularly those in the Wisconsin area (apparently they're from Portage). I heard part of a song on the radio (some local music show) the other day, and it was off the wall wild instrumental progressive metal with a touch of goth sound. It was freakin awesome. I was just wondering if anybody else has heard these guys or knows any more about them.
Biz
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 18:01:51 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: ideally / a "look" / organ wood :) Message-ID: <36C0780F.2847@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Phil wrote: > Madsman wrote: >> I totally concur with Al... it's really rare that you hear a stunningly >>real piano on a prog cd. I assume it's been done a lot, but that effects >>tend to try and make piano sound like something it's not. > > Not much to argue about here, since I agree with both Madsman and Al. No > matter how good an electronic piano sound is, it doesn't compare to a REAL > Steinway grand. > [...]
At one of the Rudess/Morgenstein clinics I attended right before RPM was still a demo disc (Jeremy can back me up I hope, he bought one too! :)))), Jordan stated that one of the important factors in his decision for going with Kurzweil was that it had THE closest approximation to a true Grand Piano sound. I couldn't tell the difference and this is coming straight of his rig.
And the other sounds that thing made! I have the RPM disc, and that barely scratches the surface of what he showed off at the clinic. The best is yet to come...
>> [...] > Jordan has stated several times that he will never use anything but > Kurzweil. I would find that a bit disturbing if it weren't for the fact > that he can make his Kurzweils dance on the head of a pin, sit up and beg, > and deal cards. :)
Yeah, it helps when you happen to be one of the design consultants. A rather sweet application of User-Centered Design Approach :)
Joe wrote: > Does it just piss anybody off when you think of how hard bands like DT > work, then you see like 500 facings of a CD that's probably popular just > because of a "look". [...]
Obey your thirst :)
Al continued on his quest for full woodrow: > A full size pipe organ. Wakeman used one on YES's "Going for the one" > Unfortunately, unless you've spent some serious coin on playback gear, > you're never going to fully appreciate it.
Appreciate THIS: [:)]
About 20 miles outside Boston in Gloucester is Hammond* Castle right on the Gloucester coastline. As the story goes, sections of it were transported from Europe. The castle was supposedly built as a weeding presentto his wife. Nice gift, eh ladies :)
There's a room called the Great Hall. It's about 80 feet tall, 30 feet wide, and it must be at least 150 feet long, with an old pipe organ in it. The pipes run up the walls and there's a false ceiling near the top. There is nothing which can match being in this room when a single note is struck. Let Jordan loose in there sometime!!!
http://www.hammondcastle.com/ for those of you into castles, goth, neo-whatevah, medieval, ghosts and shiz :)
WTF this have to do prog?
hmmmm.......processing, please wait......ok
Hammond was into remote control shiz around the turn of the century. Pretty progressive at the time!! Ok, now you probably know about all the ghost stories and general bad luck and superstition stuff around that area what with fishing ships disappearing and the crews lost for all eternity. The town of Salem ain't to far from Gloucester either :)
Well, he was testing remote control of a boat in the bay. He got a remote control boat to work and was scaring fisherman in the Bay by schwingin' the unmanned boat by them.... hehehehehehe
Pretty progressive inventor that Dr. Hammond :)
Too bad people aren't scared by that shiz anymore :( With GPS, one could have a ball chasing them around the harbor, with one of Al's 800 megawatt speakers on board blaring out "Burning My Soul".... heheheheh
* No relation to Hammond, the organ manufacturer, although rumor had it that the poor guy was getting complaint after complaint when the first series of Hammonds were released and had all kinds of problems :)
Peace! Jon -- *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*
"A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules,often with the assistence of unsuspecting musicians." -- Frank Zappa
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 12:58:46 -0500 From: Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: new magna carta cds?? Message-ID: <36C07756.EB39A88A@trw.com>
while checking out cds through the $10 off discount from cdnow http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/redirect/leaf=from=sr-783946
It has Platypus for 12.99.
Also under Magna Carta it has 2 new titles: 1. An album by Simon Phillips the description says it is a Jazz instrumentalist (drums) album. Anyone know about this? The name sounds like a Duran Duran member. Its not out yet though... 2.Tribute to the Titans-who are the Titans? The description says Mar 9 for a release date, with Members of Magellan and Shadow Gallery + others.
Also I thought Angra got signed domestically? No domestic cds available from cdnow at least.
-- |----------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty Email: Pat.Daugherty@trw.com | | Web : http://www.abs.net/~patnbeck/pat/pat.html | |================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | |----------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 20:31:26 +0100 From: Henrik Hansson <hehapoco@hem2.passagen.se> To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Cool edit pro Message-ID: <36C08D0E.1EDB@hem2.passagen.se>
Hi!
If anyone has got "Cool Edit Pro", I would be glad to get a copy of it! Please e-mail me!!!
E-mail: hehapoco@hem2.passagen.se
Dream Theater page: http://hem2.passagen.se/lghomega
Home page: http://hem2.passagens.se/hehapoco
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 14:57:54 -0500 From: Craig Griffith <tarkus@softhome.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Real Piano in prog Message-ID: <36C09342.4A42F3DF@softhome.net>
Most any Emerson, Lake, and Palmer album from their real period has real piano...Jethro Tull, especially in the early 70s...ditto for King Crimson (the excellent Keith Tippett)...Genesis (Firth of Fifth being the most obvious example of that)...lots more out there. -- Craig Griffith: High school student, guitar player, King of Craigland http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/8509/ "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" -Ian Anderson
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 12:12:42 PST From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Fates Warning Message-ID: <19990209201242.2110.qmail@hotmail.com>
hi there,(thanks Justin for the BM review, didn't know that GL was out of Dokken) I just picked up FW's still life and was wondering if 'the ivory gates of ...' is in there set often. Man that sounded so Maiden to my ears that I didn't know what to think. After somebody mentioned it I was looking for the new Nuno album and all I could find was the import single. Anybody?Anybody? later dudes sebastian does anybody have the url for MP wedding picture?
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:24:32 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Techno... *shudder* Message-ID: <Pine.GSU.4.05.9902091512260.23977-100000@voyager.cris.com>
Peter Geerts wrote:
> Joe DeAngelo wrote: > > > - Who/what kind of music is Sven Vath? I saw this CD, and have never > > even heard of it before..... but the cover looked like it belonged on a > > prog CD or something. Just curious. > > Techno. Keep your hands off that one... > > Nuff said.
No kidding, eh? I can't believe anyone would consider it a form of music... all those drum machines and sequencers and synths and.... ugh. Before we know it, the world will be overrun with this crap. It's trash.. I'd throw it in a fucking trash can. Even though I've never even listened to techno in my life, I'm going to immediately disregard the entire "genre", if you want to call it that.
</sarcasm>
Rick Audet Pretentious Techno Listener Official #YtseAsshole of the Month, July 1998
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