YTSEJAM Digest 4662
Today's Topics:
1) Re: new magna carta cds??
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
2) bit
by Dave M Klint <davek@csh.rit.edu>
3) CDNOW discount
by Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
4) Re: Fates Warning
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
5) Real piano and progressive
by "Akis Sotiropoulos" <akis.s@acropolis.net>
6) My bad...
by "Ambassador Nelaskon" <cyaron@mailcity.com>
7) Simon Phillips
by "Jason Barden" <jbarden@usdbs2.usdb.k12.ut.us>
8) After Metropolis
by ToxicSheep@aol.com
9) Impact 2- ALL matt bradley????
by YtseSryche@aol.com
10) Re: Techno... *shudder*
by <dthomas@best.com>
11) Re: Pianos, Organs
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
12) Re:"Freebird"/CD buying trip
by "Akis Sotiropoulos" <akis.s@acropolis.net>
13) JPM100
by "J.T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com>
14) Metallica in southamerica (Non DT)
by Oscar Garcia Verastegui <trashboy@amauta.rcp.net.pe>
15) FW: TNT Vocal Range
by "Tarquin, Dan" <dtarquin@storis.com>
16) recent purchases
by John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
17) recent purchases
by John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
18) recent purchases
by John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
19) The HIGH note in "Loving You"...
by Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu>
20) ELP Cover
by "Sigit Prabowo" <tekppg04@bni.co.id>
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:39:49 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
To: Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
Subject: Re: new magna carta cds??
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9902091535190.31254-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> 2.Tribute to the Titans-who are the Titans? The description says Mar 9
> for a release date, with Members of Magellan and Shadow Gallery +
> others.
I *believe* this disc is a "mixed bag" of different tracks from
the tribute albums that Magna Carta has put together, if i'm not mistaken.
- mike.
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 15:59:19 -0500
From: Dave M Klint <davek@csh.rit.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: bit
Message-ID: <199902092059.PAA29298@elwood.csh.rit.edu>
>David Dixon, MCP
>Internet Developer
Hey dave, are you really the Master Control Processor? How is the game
grid doing nowadays?
end of line
-davek
DTC: I just got yelled at by my boss becuase I was listening to JP's solo
on OiaLT to loud. And I was wearing headphones too.
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 16:03:54 -0500
From: Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: CDNOW discount
Message-ID: <36C0A2BA.A2BBD30E@trw.com>
some reason this never made it through the first time
Get a $10 off a purchase of 19.99 or more by way of
http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/redirect/leaf=from=sr-783946
its good 2/3 through 2/23
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:12:13 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Fates Warning Message-ID: <199902092112.NAA21943@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., "Schnipp -" thus begged: > >hi there,(thanks Justin for the BM review, didn't know that GL was out >of Dokken) >I just picked up FW's still life and was wondering if 'the ivory gates >of ...' is in there set often.
It was part of the set of the last tour...
GL has been out of Dokken for a long time...
-The Doc
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:12:27 +0200 From: "Akis Sotiropoulos" <akis.s@acropolis.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Real piano and progressive Message-ID: <199902092112.NAA23407@knight.axnet.net>
Recently, someone wrote:
> ................ The trouble is, I can't > think of an album in the prog realm with a real piano...though I'm not > as much of a prog-head as some people on this list. Does anyone know > specifically where real pianos or organs can be found?
The truth is that today, the use of real piano is rare.All I can think of right now is Saviour Machine and Helstar.SM use real piano in "Legend" pt1 and pt2 and Helstar do the same in "Nosferatu". Rage, have also used real piano in "Lingua Mortis" (1995 or 96) but that was a special occasion (they played along with an orchestra). However, most progressive rock bands of the 70's played with real pianos: Genesis in "Foxtrot", ELP (Keith rules!) in "Tarkus" are some examples. BTW, anybody heard of Moon Bubbles and Excellent?They are supposed to be unreleased tracks of DT.If anybody know, please give me all the details.
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 21:14:24 -0000 From: "Ambassador Nelaskon" <cyaron@mailcity.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: My bad... Message-ID: <DNGPJHDJIFJDAAAA@mailcity.com>
I hope this didn't go through multiple times, but I had a problem when I first tried to send it...
Anyway, I sent this response to the ytsejam:
>>>On the OIAL version of "Metropolis", what is the song they break into near theend (about 5:17)? It is some improv jam or is it a cover of another song?<<<
>>QUIT asking that!!! It's been said SO many times. Okay, sorry. I asked too. After it was already dead. It's Freebird (by Skynyrd?) Anyway, it rocks out, but I don't listen to Skynyrd.<<
Nick Gianotti informed me of my error. Freebird is at the ent of TTT, not Metropolis. So now I must publicly declare myself Ambassador Idiot and apologize to the onw who asked the question in the first place. (Mr. Parmet?)
Thanks Nick. Now to look up 7 octave ranges...
-Nelaskon ECA
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 14:31:55 -0700 From: "Jason Barden" <jbarden@usdbs2.usdb.k12.ut.us> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Simon Phillips Message-ID: <B0000015655@utstbsntogd1.USDBOGDEN>
> 1. An album by Simon Phillips the description says it is a Jazz > instrumentalist (drums) album. Anyone know about this? The name sounds > like a Duran Duran member. Its not out yet though..
Definately not a Duran Duran member - though he is British. Simon is just a plain kick-ass drummer. He is know for being totally ambidextrous (sp?) not only with his hands but with his feet also! He is currently the drummer for Toto, but has played for tons of different people and bands both on tour and in the studio. Some of his earlier stuff that I'm familiar with isn't really Jazz he tends to take music from many different genres and combine them. He is just awesome to watch. I bought his first instructional tape and about wore it out. if you can't tell I'm a huge fan of his!!!!!!!!!!
Jason
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:28:25 EST From: ToxicSheep@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: After Metropolis Message-ID: <94c01775.36c0a879@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/9/99 3:34:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, ytsejam@ax.com writes:
<< The jam at the end of metropolis on OiaL is just some new jam the boys included. It's not Pink Floyd, it's not Freebird (that's in TTT), it's not Cupid's Dead (although one part sounds a LOT like it), it's not part of The Way it Used to Be. I think it's called Barfbag. =) Steve Z >>
Funny that should be mentioned, because I think it is so cool, and once asked Derek about it, and he confirmed it was just an improv jam.
@ |> A (V)
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:35:57 EST From: YtseSryche@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Impact 2- ALL matt bradley???? Message-ID: <74e5d0eb.36c0aa3d@aol.com>
I'm sure this has already been mentioned, but I was listening to Impact 2 on the Explorer's Club cd, and the first half of Impact two has this really soft voice, and the other half is almost certainly Trent Gardner! can someone clarify that? Thanks!!!
Tony Conigliaro (remember me??? boston jammers should!)
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:56:04 -0800 (PST) From: <dthomas@best.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Techno... *shudder* Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9902091348240.13975-100000@fpage2.ba.best.com>
On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Rick Audet wrote: > > No kidding, eh? I can't believe anyone would consider it a form of > music... all those drum machines and sequencers and synths and.... ugh. > Before we know it, the world will be overrun with this crap. It's trash.. > I'd throw it in a fucking trash can. Even though I've never even listened > to techno in my life, I'm going to immediately disregard the entire > "genre", if you want to call it that. > > </sarcasm> > > Rick Audet > Pretentious Techno Listener > Official #YtseAsshole of the Month, July 1998 > >
You know, ever since I saw that message this morning, I've been waiting for the reply. I knew it would be amusing.
I also like techno, along with many other types of music that would make most of you scratch your heads in wonderment. Or something like that. I pride myself on having a music collection where anyone looking at it will find at least one item that makes them say "You actually LIKE that?"
If you're unfamiliar with techno, I'd highly advise listening to Audet's sunday night Ytseradio show, where he plays all sorts of interesting music. I'd listen more often, but it happens to be on at the same time as La Femme Nikita and The Simpsons here, and anyone that knows me knows that television pretty much wins out over any other sort of entertainment (I'm so shallow).
So count this as another vote for techno/electronica or whatever you want to call it. Of course, I'm not sure if this counts as a pure vote since I like Marillion. And The Gathering.
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:15:11 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Pianos, Organs Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990209171511.00800e00@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>
NO, Derek, to my knowledge, did not use a real Hammond in the beginning of the FII tour, it was more like a Korg organ module like the vk7, I think it was a two keyboard or manual organ, and he switched to the vk7 because, he told me, that the vk7 was not as noisy as the Korg module. At 07:05 PM 2/8/1999 -0800, you wrote: > > > > You know what would be real cool? Jordan using a REAL piano for > > > the studio recording of the next DT album. With good playback gear, > > > keyboard simulated piano sticks out like a turd in a punchbowl. > > > That really detracts from the overall experience. IMHO > > I believe Kev used a real pano for Space Dye Vest. You can see it in the > pic of the studio, and if you listen really carefully to the end of the > song, you can hear the sustain pedal being released. > > Also, I believe Derek used a real Hammond for the beginning of the FII > tours for the organ, but switched to the VK-7 later on. And the VK-7 does > do some great organ tone. > > ~Chris >
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:48:57 +0200 From: "Akis Sotiropoulos" <akis.s@acropolis.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re:"Freebird"/CD buying trip Message-ID: <199902092248.OAA28558@knight.axnet.net>
Sven Vath is one of the first trance producers in Germany and considered to be "the emperor of german trance".His first works are good, but I don't think you'll like it since you're not into this kind of music.
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:18:54 -0800 (PST) From: "J.T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com> To: The Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: JPM100 Message-ID: <19990209231854.27328.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com>
Just wondering if anyone on the list has one of the new Ibanez JPM's. I'd like to ask some questions. e-mail back privately, please!
Thanks
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:30:06 -0500 (GMT) From: Oscar Garcia Verastegui <trashboy@amauta.rcp.net.pe> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Metallica in southamerica (Non DT) Message-ID: <m10AMbW-001uiDC@amauta.rcp.net.pe>
Hi: Here there are the southamerican tourdates for Metallica. Regards; Oscar May 2 - Bogota, COLOMBIA (Simon Bolivar Park) 4 - Caracas, VENEZUELA (Poliedro) 6 - Porto Elegre, BRAZIL (Gigantinho) 8 - Sao Paulo, BRAZIL (Iberapuera) 9 - Rio, BRAZIL (Metropolitan) 12 - Santiago, CHILE (Velodrome) 15 - Buenos Aires, ARGENTINA (Velez Sarsfield)
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:35:40 -0400 From: "Tarquin, Dan" <dtarquin@storis.com> To: "'ytsejam@axnet.net'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: FW: TNT Vocal Range Message-ID: <100737037234D21193A000600832102F0AC8A1@njserver.storis.com>
Hi there,
> I was in a band about 10 years ago that opened a bunch of dates in > Southern California for these guys. I don't remember them/him being that > impressive, but I do remember that ALL of their backround vocals were > prerecorded. > > Dan Tarquin > > > > Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 18:53:40 -0500 > From: drussell29@juno.com > To: ytsejam@axnet.net > Subject: TONY HARNELL VOCAL RANGE > Message-ID: <19990208.190050.-138107.2.drussell29@juno.com> > > > Mr. Tony Harnell from TNT is in the Guiness Book Of World Records for > having a vocal range of 8 octaves....I repeat 8 octaves.....if anyone has > seen him live or has any TNT material....they will know this is > true....please respond if you dare. > > Later On Homos > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:51:34 -0800 (PST) From: John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam dream theater <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: recent purchases Message-ID: <19990209235135.29073.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com>
Lately I have been grabbing cd's right and left, but two that have stood out among these are Tape Head by Kings X and Still Life bye Fates Warning. First Tape Head. This is my first KX cd and man every track on this thing just rocks, even the slow stuff. Can anyone tell me if more of their stuff is like this? Next is Still Life. I got this because I read/heard that the live version of APSOG is better than the studio, which I don't have. All I can say is that it would sure be hard to be this version, it rulz. Plus the other songs are just great live.
Next on the 'to get list', Chroma Key, Gordion Knot and Clockwork
NP Fates Warning-Still Life cd 2
== John Parks jpyyz@yahoo.com
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:53:19 -0800 (PST) From: John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam dream theater <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: recent purchases Message-ID: <19990209235320.25449.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com>
Lately I have been grabbing cd's right and left, but two that have stood out among these are Tape Head by Kings X and Still Life bye Fates Warning. First Tape Head. This is my first KX cd and man every track on this thing just rocks, even the slow stuff. Can anyone tell me if more of their stuff is like this? Next is Still Life. I got this because I read/heard that the live version of APSOG is better than the studio, which I don't have. All I can say is that it would sure be hard to be this version, it rulz. Plus the other songs are just great live.
Next on the 'to get list', Chroma Key, Gordion Knot and Clockwork
NP Fates Warning-Still Life cd 2
== John Parks jpyyz@yahoo.com
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:00:37 -0800 (PST) From: John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam dream theater <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: recent purchases Message-ID: <19990210000038.3740.rocketmail@send106.yahoomail.com>
Lately I have been grabbing cd's right and left, but two that have stood out among these are Tape Head by Kings X and Still Life bye Fates Warning. First Tape Head. This is my first KX cd and man every track on this thing just rocks, even the slow stuff. Can anyone tell me if more of their stuff is like this? Next is Still Life. I got this because I read/heard that the live version of APSOG is better than the studio, which I don't have. All I can say is that it would sure be hard to be this version, it rulz. Plus the other songs are just great live.
Next on the 'to get list', Chroma Key, Gordion Knot and Clockwork
NP Fates Warning-Still Life cd 2
== John Parks jpyyz@yahoo.com
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 19:29:36 -0500 From: Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: The HIGH note in "Loving You"... Message-ID: <36C0D2EF.1EAE4290@ic3.ithaca.edu>
> that song " Loving You"...that loud note has GOT to either be a #C down to an > A natural. im sure of it. i saw the commericial enough times to make me want > to barf up their awful tasting fries ( mr. potato head can kiss my ass! ). > anyway, i do remember it. one word " damn".
Actually, that song was in South Park. It was the episode where they had the football game and Richard Stamos came to sing "Loving You" and when he hit that high note, a bomb was supposed to blow up the mascot of the opposing team. And when they were making the bomb, they said it was an F#. Now I don't know how accurate South Park is, but whenever I hear that song, it's all I can think of.
PS - Their fries may suck, but their burgers kick McDonald's ass!
~Chris -- "We buy fresh bagels from the corner store Where swastikas are spat from aerosols I sit in the bar sipping iced white russians trying to score but nobody's pushing and everyone looks at everyone's faces searching for signs and praying for traces of a conscience in residence, we are sitting on a barbed wire fence...chasing the clouds home."
- Marillion '87
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:59:53 +0700 From: "Sigit Prabowo" <tekppg04@bni.co.id> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: ELP Cover Message-ID: <000901be5490$abd5ec60$0cca17ac@Sigit.bni.intranet>
Hi there jammers ... I have a question for you guys : has DT ever done an ELP cover, especially in the reign of KM ? The thought of JP improvising over the guitarless Trilogy .... hmm By the way, those people looking for prog with real piano should check out that song ... totally insane piano !
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