YTSEJAM Digest 4663
Today's Topics:
1) Re: The HIGH note in "Loving You"...
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
2) Re: The HIGH note in "Loving You"...
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
3) APSoG
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
4) George Lynch/Reb Beach
by JKorby1973@aol.com
5) Re: SM and real pianos
by Dale R Newberry <schnapster@juno.com>
6) Petrucci's 7 string pickups
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4658
by Stixntrixx@aol.com
8) Re: Livetime Metropolis jam
by Portnoy420@aol.com
9) Re: Pianos, organs; Techno
by Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net>
10) Keyboards and pianos and organs, Oh my!
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
11) Publishing Company For Sale!
by BHigdon736@aol.com
12) Turkish DT fans
by Mehmet Cevat Ozyildirim <e495368@eelab.itu.edu.tr>
13) Re: Impact 2- ALL matt bradley????
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
14) Re: Pianos, Organs
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:45:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: The HIGH note in "Loving You"...
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990209204208.3385A-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
> the opposing team. And when they were making the bomb, they said it was
> an F#. Now I don't know how accurate South Park is, but whenever I hear
> that song, it's all I can think of.
>
> ~Chris
Heh. Actually in South Park, the note that he was supposed to hit was an
F. But I won't be picky about it. :) But I doubt that's what it really
is, unless it's an F two octaves above middle C that the woman sings in
that song. It could be, though... I personally can't get above a high Bb
and that's being a guy (baritone no less) ;)
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Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu
http://cout.ml.org/
ICQ: 2513441
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"So you want me to set it to blow up on the 'do-
n'-doot-doo' part?"
"No, dammit, the 'Aaaaaaah!'"
-South Park
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:02:09 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: The HIGH note in "Loving You"...
Message-ID: <006a01be5499$65d8f780$480d84d0@default>
>PS - Their fries may suck, but their burgers kick McDonald's ass!
*gets diarrhea just thinking about it*
Discussion about Burger King vs. McDonald's and "Loving You?" Good God, we
need something new to inject this place with. :x *ponders*
What the hell else is there to talk about? Ahhhh... Here's something...
Someone come up with a good way to discuss reverse phrasing in songs... I
think I'll take a DT song and try to find hymns to Satan in it by playing it
backwards. I'll let you know what I find...
*sees Mike quivering in fear of being revealed*
Arby's anyone?
-- KorgX3 NP: Mercury Rising: Upon Deaf Ears "Here's to my sweet Satan..." -- Jimmy Page talking backwards...------------------------------
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 21:30:21 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: APSoG Message-ID: <36E5D93D.E1BF1F9B@home.com>
John Parks wrote: > Next is Still Life. I got this because I read/heard that the live > version of APSOG is better than the studio, which I don't have
Good God........ Whatever you do......... don't tell AL the YtseProgTologist that! Heheheh. Seriously though, both are great, and if you enjoy the SL version you should get the studio version too. And while you're at it, go and get the APSoG video -it's awesome!
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- Joe D.
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:42:04 EST From: JKorby1973@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: George Lynch/Reb Beach Message-ID: <b45f47b.36c0f1fc@aol.com>
In a message dated 99-02-09 21:01:22 EST, you write:
<< GL has been out of Dokken for a long time... >>
Well maybe. It depends on what your definition of "long time" is. He just left Dokken (again) last summer to go back to doing his Lynch Mob project. Can't wait to hear Reb Beach's playing on the new Dokken album! - Justin
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:03:11 -0600 From: Dale R Newberry <schnapster@juno.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: SM and real pianos Message-ID: <19990209.220327.3334.1.schnapster@juno.com>
>The truth is that today, the use of real piano is rare.All I can think >of right now is Saviour Machine and Helstar.SM use real piano in "Legend" pt1 and >pt2 I do know that SM's keyboardist (Nathan Van Halla, I think is his name, but I could be wrong there) does not use a real piano when they play live. He gets a pretty kickass piano sound from his rig, but it is definitely not a real piano (would be a bit cumbersome to take on tour, though it would be cool to see them with a full stage and a nice, fat, huge grand piano in there :). Granted, he may have used a real piano in the studio. I just know he doesn't live.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:21:07 -0600 (CST) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Petrucci's 7 string pickups Message-ID: <19992923517341@ix.netcom.com>
I know this topic has been discussed here before, so send any responses in private e-mail. I was wondering if Petrucci still uses the DiMarzio Blaze 7 string humbuckers in his 7 string guitars. I have a Dimarzio catalog that states he uses them, but in an interview the same issue, he talks about their new album "Awake" :-P . I had also read somewhere that he had custom 7 string versions of the Air Norton and Steve's Special in his 7 string guitars. I was thinking of doing something similar with my guitar, as I have talked to some people, and they said Dimarzio does make custom pickups, even for average joes, or non-big name professionals. Though reading through this catalog, they said that the reason for a seperate model 7 string PU is to get a good balance of the low B that couldnt be achived normally. I know this catalog is out of date, and was wondering if 7 string versions of their 6 string PUs can be made and special ordered. Thanks
Matt
===================================================== "A daily dose of eMpTyV "Following our instinct will flush your mind not a trend. Go against right down the drain." the grain until the end." -Dream Theater -Metallica =====================================================
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:24:41 EST From: Stixntrixx@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4658 Message-ID: <16af9f50.36c10a09@aol.com>
In a message dated 99-02-08 17:50:42 EST, you write:
<< Anybody listened to Bret Micheals knew one? Murder in death row? I saw it out. >>
Of course. It's actually called "A Letter From Death Row" and is the soundtrack to the movie that he wrote, directed, produced, and stars in. The songs on the album are killer, but in all honesty the production blows. I've seen Bret perform those songs live twice (the second time most recently at the Peavy Booth at NAMM in a private performance room that held 30 people at most) and the songs absolutely kick the album's ass live. The album itself features C.C. DeVille on the opening track ("Party Rock Band," which is worth the price of the album alone) and Rikki Rockett on another song "The Last Breath." It has some Poison-type songs and some more "modern" sounding songs. If you're a fan, it is a must have. And Poison, as a band, will be touring this summer.
Richie
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:56:53 EST From: Portnoy420@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Cc: syrinx@erotomania.org Subject: Re: Livetime Metropolis jam Message-ID: <4b9d5c7e.36c11195@aol.com>
In a message dated 2/9/99 3:36:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, ytsejam@ax.com writes:
<< > Yes, "Freebird" is by Lynyrd Skynyrd......... however, it's NOT at the > end of "Metropolis" on OiaL. Try "Take the Time". As for the jam at > the end of Met, I don't think it has a name, does it? Actually, according to MP, it's a section of "Where Are You Now" which they threw away. >>
Actually, it wasn't WAYN... It's from the original "The way it used to be" (pre-demo version) Mike Portnoy
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:19:18 -0600 From: Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Pianos, organs; Techno Message-ID: <36C124E6.7FE1@bellsouth.net>
It is a sad but true fact that almost(not saying all) prog of this decade uses synths instead of the real instruments. If you're looking for rampant piano, definitely look at Emerson Lake and Palmer's stuff of the 70's. Keith Emerson is incredible, hell, he'd be my keyboardist on my All-Pro musicians list...:) I love Pictures at an Exhibition, and also their self titled one. Tarkus and Trilogy are both great as well. Another few bands from back then, who used a good bit of piano/organ would be the Alan Parsons Project, Jethro Tull, Yes, Chicago, Blood Sweat and Tears, and didn't some King Crimson from back then have some good keys work in them(been awhile since I've listened to their older stuff)??? If you're looking for organ, there's a lot of good places to look, just not as much in the prog realm. It's caught on once again big time in jazz, with Jimmy Smith, Joey DeFrancesco, and Jimmy McGriff leading the charge there. Also, you can find it in alot of good funk bands, Galactic(a local band here in New Orleans that is getting real big, who also happens to be excellent) uses an actual REAL Hammond during their gigs, no synths. Of course, you can also go hunt down Maceo Parker, or others in the funk/R&B realm, and find alot of it.
As for the techno thing, I had a very negative view of it for a long time, and still don't care for a lot of it(Prodigy comes to mind)...however, some of it can be interesting, Hooverphonic, Crystal Method, and the Orb being some examples of what I've found listenable. They're a little bit more than a few pads over a dance beat...you just have to adjust what you're listening for....I used to say techno, country and rap all sucked...I've been able to acquire the ability to stand techno and country(to a bit, thanks to Willie Nelson...hehe), however, I still can't stand rap, and never will, and I've tried listening to it and seing redeeming factors, I just couldn't see any. Guess it's just me...:)
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 04:19:47 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Keyboards and pianos and organs, Oh my! Message-ID: <36C15D43.AFDD8A9D@isd.net>
Since I'm the culprit that opened the can of worms on the piano thread, I'd like to have the final word. (yeah, right) Yes, there have been several prog recordings in the past that have included a REAL piano. What good is it if they never captured it on tape as it was meant to be heard?
Listen to those older recordings! it sounds like they rescued an old upright piano (with a few cabinet rattles) from the local school auction, placed it in the gymnasium, hung a cheap condenser mic ( probably robbed from an old "Lloyds" portable cassette recorder) from the ceiling, plugged into one of those dreadfull sounding early 70's 8 Track tape recorders that was plagued with azimuth alignment problems, then... did the final mix down using speakers stolen from the local drive-in theater.
As far as the Kurzweil stuff goes... I'm not impressed. Listen to the beginning of Freedom of Speech, that sounds so synthesized it's pathetic. As does most of the piano parts on LTE.
One of the better sounding keyboard-simulated-piano recordings has got to be Superior's "Until The End" (From "Behind") But get this: On the same CD, the piano parts on the song "Why" is so digital sounding it almost gurgles. Shit! Once I get past the intro I'm fine, as soon as the keys get buried by other instruments it's not so noticeable. That's too bad, because I LOVE the sound of a REAL grand piano. There are times I suspect that a real piano was used in the recording of Until The End, if that's the case, then the engineer ruined it by digitizing it. The beautiful sound of a piano can also be destroyed through signal compression. Once compression is used the timbre of the piano is lost forever.
Hey Bernd, What's the story on "Until The End?"
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead Speaking of awesome buzzes... I need a haircut.
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:52:01 +0200 (EET) From: Mehmet Cevat Ozyildirim <e495368@eelab.itu.edu.tr> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Turkish DT fans Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.990210144626.287A-100000@karga.eelab.itu.edu.tr>
Are there any people from Turkey in this list? Please mail me if you are.
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:09:32 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Impact 2- ALL matt bradley???? Message-ID: <36C1931C.F0A6FCA@caribe.net>
YtseSryche@aol.com wrote:
> I'm sure this has already been mentioned, but I was listening to Impact 2 on > the Explorer's Club cd, and the first half of Impact two has this really soft > voice, and the other half is almost certainly Trent Gardner! can someone > clarify that? Thanks!!! > > Tony Conigliaro (remember me??? boston jammers should!)
Yes, the first half is matt bradley, then changes to Gardner... and IMO the really soft voice would be Gardners ( he sounds like peter cetera to me!) since Bradleys voice IMO is very cool and powerful..without being a screamer.. -- "[...] people will cringe..." - John Petrucci In the stream of consciousness.There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro Tech Sup.@Internet Solutions Inc mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:calfaro@yunque.net (ICQ)1254229
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:12:26 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Pianos, Organs Message-ID: <36C193CA.7DDCA08B@caribe.net>
Damon Fibraio wrote:
> NO, Derek, to my knowledge, did not use a real Hammond in the beginning of > the FII tour, it was more like a Korg organ module like the vk7, I think it > was a two keyboard or manual organ, and he switched to the vk7 because, he > told me, that the vk7 was not as noisy as the Korg module.
Ok, ive always thought it was a real organ..since it seems big, brown , wooden and ugly... :)
-- "[...] people will cringe..." - John Petrucci In the stream of consciousness.There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro Tech Sup.@Internet Solutions Inc mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:calfaro@yunque.net (ICQ)1254229
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