YTSEJAM Digest 4664

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: APSoG
     by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
      2) Hooverphonic
     by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
      3) Jordan Rudess on chat February 21 st
     by "Richard James" <richard@capitale.qc.ca>
      4) Tori Amos....NDTC!!!
     by "Dave Boland" <hellstorm@hotmail.com>
      5) new bands?
     by Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
      6) Real Grand Piano on FII
     by Bert Baldwin <rcb@vectorbd.com>
      7) Keyboard Piano Sounds
     by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
      8) Jordan at the Castle...
     by "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
      9) DVD-NDTC (sort of)
     by Robert Jurado <rojurado@pacific.net.ph>
     10) TONE, man. And the last word on vocal ranges.
     by "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
     11) ! Lemur Voice - Solilocide !
     by "W. Tugmutton" <tugmutton@toast.net>
     12) Platypus
     by "Rahul Ananda" <rananda@mcn.com>
     13) Combining Large WAV Files (NDTC)
     by EricPMetze@aol.com
     14) IRON FUCKING MAIDEN!!!!!!!!!!
     by Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu>
     15) annie haslam solo album
     by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
     16) Well it's official...NDTC
     by Breaker 19 <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu>
     17) DT and Maiden
     by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
     18) Re: ! Lemur Voice - Solilocide !
     by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
     19) DT on National tv (Norway)
     by "Jan Opsal" <janopsal@online.no>
     20) Saviour Machine and techno (!!)
     by "Akis Sotiropoulos" <akis.s@acropolis.net>
     21) Re: Saviour Machine and techno (!!)
     by "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>

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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:17:12 -0500
    From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Re: APSoG
    Message-ID: <36C194E8.2B095F5E@caribe.net>

    Joe DeAngelo wrote:

    > John Parks wrote:
    > > Next is Still Life. I got this because I read/heard that the live
    > > version of APSOG is better than the studio, which I don't have
    >
    > Good God........ Whatever you do......... don't tell AL the
    > YtseProgTologist that! Heheheh. Seriously though, both are great, and
    > if you enjoy the SL version you should get the studio version too. And
    > while you're at it, go and get the APSoG video -it's awesome!

    Very true! The studio version has many moods and nuances that are lost in
    the live enviroment...sure Fw does a great job in trying to recreate
    it..but for that song, id have to say the studio version is way better...at
    least the "experience" of it...

    --
         "[...] people will cringe..."  - John Petrucci
         In the stream of consciousness.There  is a river crying
       Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying.
                     Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand
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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:05:48 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Hooverphonic Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9902101503500.21448-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>

    On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Kevin Carmouche wrote:

    > As for the techno thing, I had a very negative view of it for a long > time, and still don't care for a lot of it(Prodigy comes to > mind)...however, some of it can be interesting, Hooverphonic, Crystal

    <snip>

    Hooverphonic is NOT techno... They're a Belgian atmospheric trip-hop kinda crazy little band, who play REAL intruments (and are able to play them rather well IMO)... Anyway, it's certainly not my favourite band, but I do respect them and calling them techno would be too much of a compliment for techno music:-)

    Cheers

    Zaphod

    |Peter Geerts "...And for an encore, Man | |zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be proved that black is white | |ICQ: 13122363 (weekend) and got himself killed on | |Political Science Student the next zebra crossing..."| |Leuven University, Belgium (Douglas Adams) |

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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:06:59 -0500 From: "Richard James" <richard@capitale.qc.ca> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Jordan Rudess on chat February 21 st Message-ID: <012c01be54fe$a0d088c0$4d0201a0@carme.capitale.qc.ca>

    We have a new chat on the schedule. Keyboard Wiz Jordan Rudess will be joining us on Sunday, February 21st at 3pm eastern/12 noon pacific. Jordan Rudess is one of the hottest new keyboardists on the progressive music scene today. It was made official in 1994 when the readers of Keyboard Magazine voted him best new talent. They made that honor all the more significant by giving him second place in the best overall keyboardist category right behind Keith Emerson! Jordan's tastes have proven very diverse as he has worked with the likes of Vinnie Moore, Jan Hammer, Tony Williams, the Paul Winter Consort, Rhonda Larson, the Dixie Dregs, Rod Morgenstein, Liquid Tension Experiment, Annie Haslam, and many more. And just last month he accepted a gig as the newest member of Dream Theater much to the absolute delight of DT fans everywhere! Jordan will be discussing this new phase in his career, the recent LTE gigs and recordings for their next album, as well as taking questions from the fans. Again, information on joining the chat can be found at <http://www.artist-shop.com/irc>.

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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:37:47 PST From: "Dave Boland" <hellstorm@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Tori Amos....NDTC!!! Message-ID: <19990210153747.23617.qmail@hotmail.com>

    Jammers, did anyone tape the Tori Amos "Sessions at West 54th Street"? I went to tape it, but the PBS Station in my area decided to move it back about 26 hours without telling anyone, and I missed it! if you did, and care to help out a poor colllege student, please e-mail me PRIVATELY at hellstorm@hotmail.com ! thanks, dave boland

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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:39:13 -0500 From: Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: new bands? Message-ID: <36C1A821.5D76C3D5@trw.com>

    I downloaded some mp3s from mp3.com based on the descriptions of the band. There were 2 bands so far that caught my attention. I haven't listened to them too much, basically skimmed the mp3s.

    One band was Aura:Basically a prog metal band with vocals in Latin. Pretty wild, except I've forgotten anything I learned in my one Latin class 15 years ago. (well I still remember agricola as farmer).

    Another was the Franklin-Neumann Project-another prog metalish band. These guys sounded pretty good also.

    Anyone know anymore about these guys or have any other opinions?

    I did download a prog metal band that sing in Spanish but haven't gotten the mp3s home where I have a soundcard... The band is Azazel.

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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:41:01 +0000 (UTC) From: Bert Baldwin <rcb@vectorbd.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Real Grand Piano on FII Message-ID: <Pine.SCO.3.95.990210163837.7699A-100000@vectorbd.vectorbd.com>

    I read in an interview with Derek, on the Keyboard Magazine website, that he brought in a real Yamaha 7 foot grand piano for use on LITS. I'm not sure if he used it on AL, tho. And the part late in the song when it sounds like Mike doing some kind of funky percussion type of thing on congas or something, real quick, it's actually Derek reaching in and muting the strings on the grand while he plays the keys. Just a little FYI. Later --

    -- Bert

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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:50:30 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Keyboard Piano Sounds Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649809277@messaging>

    If you want to hear a good synthesized piano (coming from Jordan's KW 2500), pick up "Steinway to Heaven", which is Magna Carta's release featuring rock keyboardists playing classical music. Jordan plays Chopin's "Revolutionary Etude", and MY GOD HE IS GOOD....

    His sound is much better than the REAL pianos on the album (bad production, etc.). I got this reply from Jordan when I asked him what kind of piano he used...

    <<<<< Hi David,

    <snip> It is my Kurzweil 2500 actually. That is not a well known fact. I just thought it sounded great. After listening to the piano recordings on the rest of the album I'm glad I took that route.. <snip>

    Jordan >>>>>

    David Dixon, MCP Internet Developer Integrated Information Systems, Inc. david@iisweb.com ytsedave@asu.edu

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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:56:13 GMT From: "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk> To: the Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Jordan at the Castle... Message-ID: <75CA14EDB@sdk1.derby.ac.uk>

    >There's a room called the Great Hall. It's about 80 feet tall, 30 >feet wide, and it must be at least 150 feet long, with an old pipe organ >in it. The pipes run up the walls and there's a false ceiling near the >top. There is nothing which can match being in this room when a single >note is struck. Let Jordan loose in there sometime!!! He never would. Not unless someone paints the Kurz[Rot]weil[er]logo on the front or something. Incidentally, can some keyboardist tell be if Kurzweils are any good? The only notable person I've seen using them is Tori Amos (...Earthquakes and ...Choirgirl...), and I've only ever used Korg.

    Si

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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:11:34 +0700 From: Robert Jurado <rojurado@pacific.net.ph> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: DVD-NDTC (sort of) Message-ID: <36C1CBD6.22336531@pacific.net.ph>

    Hey,

    Anyone out there know anything about burning DVDs? Anyone have a company or know of a company that can do that stuff? Can one use a DVD RAM to record a DVD that you can play on a regular home theater DVD? How different are DVD computer formats like DVD RAM and DVD ROM from home theater DVD (sorry, don't know what else to call it)?

    Just asking, because wouldn't it be cool if we could have DT video footage on DVD?

    -rob

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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:15:26 GMT From: "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk> To: the Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: TONE, man. And the last word on vocal ranges. Message-ID: <7AF183394@sdk1.derby.ac.uk>

    It's guitar time, folks... 1) Is it just me, or was JP's tone 100% better on I&W? Maybe I just like a more trebly tone. Awake was good in places - that lead on Scarred was a great tone, but a lot of the live album/vid was...Not bad, just not as great, y'know? 2) Metallica tone time...On Orion, off MOP, does anyone know how to get that intro tone, the one that fades in? JP ain't used it yet, but he probably will... 3) ...But he has used this one. The lead tone from Take Away My Pins, I've heard that tone from loads of players (check out Andy Timmon's "Ear X-tacy" disk), but what's doing it? Is it some special sort of reverb or something? It can't be the amp, 'cos JP uses MESA, Timmons uses Laney, and Jan Cyrka was using Marshall back them.

    And as promised, my threppeny bit on vocal ranges. Down at the local karaoke, some prat did "Stayin' Alive", and the DJ had a pitch shifter. This had to be worth all of stlg50 ($2bn at current exchange rates, folks), and yet it *sounded* like the guy had his balls in the blender. The point is: with all the studio technology about, don't you think that, just maybe, the note you hear on the record isn't necessarily the note the singer sung? Jon Anderson claims that Yes used some Digitech thing both live and in the studio; and fuck, they can even get Celine Dion to sing in tune these days. But you can't beet the real thing, eh?I hear the Bee Gees had THIRTY octave ranges...

    Si

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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:21:49 -0600 From: "W. Tugmutton" <tugmutton@toast.net> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: ! Lemur Voice - Solilocide ! Message-ID: <000301be5522$3ed443e0$d6dc1a93@tugmutton-.swt.edu>

    Ahoy,

    Any of you who like Lemur Voice (and any of you who don't), go to www.cobweb.nl/mcoenen (the Official Lemur Voice page) and download the full version (recorded live I think) of Solilocide. This song ROCKS. I can't wait for the new album!

    - Wolfric Tugmutton tugmutton@toast.net

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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:14 -0800 From: "Rahul Ananda" <rananda@mcn.com> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Platypus Message-ID: <199902101910.LAA25664@knight.axnet.net>

    I picked this up yesterday along with a bunch of other things. I only managed to listen up to the third song. That third one (can't recall the name) is SO cool, I couldn't get past it. Every time the damn thing ended, I skipped back to the begininng of the track and listened again. It starts off with Rod doing these classily bitchin' fills...press rolls and tom blats in all the right places. Then Ty and Derek sidle on in and the shit begins to rule. The 7/8 section and the following outro solo are some of the things I've always wanted to hear King's X do, but never have (except maybe Moanjam, now that I think about it). The first two songs (Standing in Line and Nothing to Say) are real interesting too, but since I only listened to them once, I can't really remember what the hell was happening in those two, except for Ty's weird solo in NtS. Oh yeah, John Myung plays some kewl stuff too. Doesn't sound like there's any Chapman Stick on what I've heard though, just bass. I was also sort of fantasizing that he (JM) would do some vocals or something, but according to the liners, it's all Ty. Buy it. -Rahul Ananda

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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:35:49 EST From: EricPMetze@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Combining Large WAV Files (NDTC) Message-ID: <4290133a.36c1df95@aol.com>

    I'd like to combine a couple fairly large WAV files so I can make an MP3 out of them. They're both about 44MB. I've tried using several things, but I just don't have enough RAM, I guess. I figured that 96MB was enough, but I was wrong. Could someone give me a suggestion through private mail? Gracias...

    [eriC]

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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:50:03 -0500 From: Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: IRON FUCKING MAIDEN!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <36C1E2EA.E58801B1@ic3.ithaca.edu>

    IRON MAIDEN! The band that I grew up on....Bruce is back! so is Adrian Smith....3 guitarists!!!! THIS IS THE GREATEST FUCKING DAY OF MY LIFE!!!!!!!

    http://www.ironmaiden.com/

    Go to the above link for the confirmed news!!!!!!!!!!

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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:02:33 PST From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: annie haslam solo album Message-ID: <19990210200233.5197.qmail@hotmail.com>

    Since Haslam seems to be another name that has been mentioned on this here forum, I thought i might point out the fact that according to that www.billboard.com/releases site that skadz so kindly pointed out last week, she's got some kind of solo gig coming out sometime soon (and i just totally blanked on the date, so check it out for yourself)

    Also: about the Scorpions....all indications have them releasing their new album "Eye to Eye" March 8th in Germany, but I can find no word about an American release, or if there's even going to be one....anybody got a clue out there? I'm guessing I'm not the only one interested in this disc......

    partha

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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:16:16 -0500 (EST) From: Breaker 19 <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu> To: YtseJam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Well it's official...NDTC Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.990210151145.26687A-100000@river.it.gvsu.edu>

    For all you Iron Maiden lovers out there, and I know there are a few of you on this list...Bruce Dickinson and Adrian Smith have both returned to Iron Maiden, but Janick Gers is still in to from a 3-guitar team. Read all about it on www.ironmaiden.com

    This is the best metal news I've heard in a long time (no offense to Jordan, which was really big news, but IM are pure legends!)

    A full new record with the reunited Maiden and a new DT CD with Rudess, this year is going to fucking rock!

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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:35:19 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: DT and Maiden Message-ID: <199902102035.MAA08583@gms.gmsnet.com>

    Well... since Maiden is back in full force... and DT are friends with Dickinson, maybe we'll see a DT/Maiden tour in 1999 or even 2000... that should knock the house down...

    -The Doc

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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:37:10 -0500 (EST) From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org> To: "W. Tugmutton" <tugmutton@toast.net> Subject: Re: ! Lemur Voice - Solilocide ! Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9902101535320.23239-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>

    > Any of you who like Lemur Voice (and any of you who don't), go to > www.cobweb.nl/mcoenen (the Official Lemur Voice page) and download the full version > (recorded live I think) of Solilocide. This song ROCKS. I can't wait for the new > album!

    It will soon be up on the "other" official lemur voice site (mine) in the next 2 days. we're working pretty hard in securing a deal here in north america (one has been secured in europe), and there IS PROGRESS BEING MADE. They look to have the album out by June or July (last I heard), with the band (finally!) entering the studio in March.

    - mike.

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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:52:40 +0100 From: "Jan Opsal" <janopsal@online.no> To: "The YtseJam mailinglist" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: DT on National tv (Norway) Message-ID: <000601be5537$81a9be60$37e74382@default>

    They played Dream Theater on national TV in Norway yesterday, and I missed it! #"=A4%&!!! ok, The show was called=20 "Jazz 'n Heavy" and is basicly two fat guys playing music they like. The one time I 'almost' watched they played some crap, and now they've played DT.....

    If anyone wants to know what channel it was on, it is called NRK2. Nobody watches it, but maybe DT made some new fans yesterday? Who knows, maybe someone lost their remote and couldn't change the channels?

    Anyway, some airplay is better than no airplay! The thing that buggs me the most is that I don't even know what song they played! The guy that told me about this said =EFt was something "heavy" though...=20

    Jonas Opsal ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My Dream Theater page: http://home.sol.no/~janopsal/dt/

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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:20:56 +0200 From: "Akis Sotiropoulos" <akis.s@acropolis.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Saviour Machine and techno (!!) Message-ID: <199902102126.NAA04496@knight.axnet.net>

    To Dale: SM's keyboardist is Nathan Van Hala.Of course I'm talking about their studio albums!! The piano sound in lives is pretty much close to the real one (I've seen them once).I think Eric Clayton himself said that he used a real piano during the recordings of the Legend albums (I hope I find the interview). On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Rick Audet wrote: > > No kidding, eh? I can't believe anyone would consider it a form of > music... all those drum machines and sequencers and synths and.... ugh. > Before we know it, the world will be overrun with this crap. It's trash.. > I'd throw it in a fucking trash can. Even though I've never even listened > to techno in my life, I'm going to immediately disregard the entire > "genre", if you want to call it that.

    You can stay true to the cause.Be the crusader of metal.Let the rest of us listen to this "crap".And "before we know it, the world will be overrun with this crap"....What an apocalyptic scene!

    To DThomas: DThomas, or whatever your name is, count another one for electronica (actually drum 'n' bass/breakbeat is what I like most).I'm not so sure, too, if this counts for a real vote, since I'm in this list.

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    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:47:35 -0400 From: "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Saviour Machine and techno (!!) Message-ID: <19990210213900562.AAA265@mcs01.yunque.net@SMART01.yunque.net>

    > > To DThomas: > DThomas, or whatever your name is, count another one for electronica > (actually > drum 'n' bass/breakbeat is what I like most).I'm not so sure, too, if this > counts for > a real vote, since I'm in this list. >

    /me sheepishly raises his hand. me 3!! trip-hop/jungle/breakbeat/trance and drum&bass ALL tickle my fancy. some people just need to open their minds.. oh and..is it just me or busta rhymes song "gimme some more" has an interesting rhythim and melody..ya know..those strings doing the psycho(?) theme and the strange beat behind it...

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