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    Today's Topics:

      1) How Deep Is Your Love? (about 2 inches)
     by "J.T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com>
      2) he does speak.
     by "stan tyszka" <drumguy@uscom.com>
      3) Fear Factory Video
     by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
      4) blame it on Ty
     by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
      5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4666
     by Glen Brooks <g_brooks@yahoo.com>
      6) 2 guitarists
     by Sebast87@aol.com
      7) John Arch audition tapes for DREAM THEATER
     by PTE3X@aol.com
      8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4666 (NDTC)
     by PhReEkY dEeK <lerxst@wam.umd.edu>
      9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4666
     by TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu>
     10) keys/CD buying trip/
     by JamesAhab@aol.com
     11) Collective Soul
     by Stixntrixx@aol.com
     12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4666
     by Stixntrixx@aol.com
     13) Re: Maiden News and Bruce's Solo Career
     by MTeiper@aol.com
     14) Stratovarius Question
     by MTeiper@aol.com
     15) Flight of the Bumble Bee bass tab
     by YtseJamJMB@aol.com
     16) Re: 2 guitarists
     by Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
     17) Re: keys/CD buying trip/
     by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
     18) Re: he does speak | piano in prog | unreleased DT | ytsejam defined
     by JamesAhab@aol.com
     19) signed DT FII CD for auction to benefit NEARfest
     by Robert LaDuca <rlladuca@rs01.kings.edu>
     20) Re: he does speak | piano in prog | unreleased DT | ytsejam defined
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>

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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:01:52 -0800 (PST)
    From: "J.T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: How Deep Is Your Love? (about 2 inches)
    Message-ID: <19990211220152.16573.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com>

    brother barking at a earth-sHaKiNg 320 Hz,
    and another brothers "unit" singing at 1.34 GHz, I see thatas 22
    octaves.
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    don't forget the other Gibb. He sings at an impressively low 0 Hz!
    That is, of course, without the worms crawlin through his skull.

    *****
    Houston, the Muff has landed
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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:14:07 -0500
    From: "stan tyszka" <drumguy@uscom.com>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: he does speak.
    Message-ID: <199902112213.OAA17381@knight.axnet.net>

    >It would be uncool if Myung opted not to be in it. Also, whoever
    >was hoping Myung would sing, I did too! That would be funny as hell,
    >considering he's "the Silent Man." I've never heard his voice before, and I
    >think it would be interesting for him to sing at least one song on the next
    >platypus album if it happens

    Actually he has a small spoken blurb in the video "Live in Tokyo" He says
    and I quote

    "I'm feelin' kinda spooky, all right, I'll take it, I'm sold" or something
    like that as he is trying on a Kimono in a clothing store, it's the only
    time that i have ever heard him utter any words.

    Stan-natS
    "If that's not enough to get you dizzy..."

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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:16:54 -0800
    From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
    To: <Undisclosed.Recipients@sparc3.castles.com>
    Subject: Fear Factory Video
    Message-ID: <00b101be560c$4b410060$acadd6d0@multimedia>

    hey everyone:

        i just uploaded the video of my favorite song of '98 at the
    Fear Factory link. 'Resurrection.' Well, i think its the video of
    the year too. Awesome graphic effects. Have a good day.

    peace,
    --james--
    www.jamesthorpe.com
    mail@jamesthorpe.com

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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:24:29 PST
    From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: blame it on Ty
    Message-ID: <19990211222429.7090.qmail@hotmail.com>

    About the broken platypi, I'm of the opinion that it's Ty Tabor's
    presence on the album that caused the little doohickey thingies to be
    broken.....I just picked up "Moonflower Lane" last week (The album
    King's X should have made after Faith Hope & Love!!!!!)(makes me even
    more pissed to have missed the KX/GC show last week)(have i already
    whined about that on this forum?). Anyway, the thingies were busted in
    that CD case, too....

    I firmly believe that when the time comes and I pick up Tape Head, they
    will be broken within that, too....so I'm prepared, went to a used CD
    store and weaseled a few jewel cases for myself while finally picking up
    waiting for the punchline on CD....

    speaking of which, can someone with a clue send me details about Nuno's
    new solo album? inquiring minds, y'know?

    partha

    > Death Lord writes "the little things that hold the CD in place
    > were already broken..."
    > They were broken on mine too. I opened the fucker up and the
    > little plastic doohickeys fell out of the case almost
    > instantaneously, before I even touched the disc itself.
    > Anyone else have a broken Platypus? -Rahul Ananda

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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:09:36 -0800 (PST)
    From: Glen Brooks <g_brooks@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4666
    Message-ID: <19990211220936.29300.rocketmail@send106.yahoomail.com>

    Well, this would be impossible unless the chip can change the actual
    laser. DVD uses a diferent laser light, blue laser to be exact. CD's
    and burners use a red laser. So, in theory, what you were told, can't
    work.

    Glen

    > Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 05:10:19 -0800
    > From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
    > To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    > Subject: Re: DVD Burning
    > Message-ID: <36C2D6BB.5279DFA0@ucla.edu>
    >
    >
    > I was down in the Student Tech Center here at UCLA the other day,
    > being my usual computer nerd self and talking out of my ass when
    > something came up that i was unfamiliar with, and one of the guys
    > mentioned DVD burners. From what he said, i understand that they are
    > not being released for sale to the public until about 2 months from
    > now. Apparently, so goes the urban legend, some guy that worked at
    Sony
    > or something took apart his DVD player, tweeked it, reassembled it,
    and
    > figured out how it works. And supposedly there is some kind of chip
    > that you can put in another machine, possibly a CD burner, to give it
    > the capability to write DVDs. At any rate, Ill have acccess to one in
    > about 2 months.
    >
    > /me has been writing a philosophy paper for 5 hours and begins to
    doubt
    > that reality exists. nah, I couldnt think of those Rudess keyboard
    > solos on my own.........
    >
    > ~Amanda
    >
    >

    ==
    "Sometimes a view from sinless eyes
    centers our perspectives
    and passifies our cries."
    Lines in the Sand,Dream Theater
    g_brooks@yahoo.com
    My favorite web pages: http://www.flash.net/~xmittrs
    http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/staduim/8953
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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:25:58 EST
    From: Sebast87@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: 2 guitarists
    Message-ID: <64df58a0.36c358f6@aol.com>

    Iron Maiden with 3 guitarists
    so, maybe one day DT with 2 guitarists, why not?

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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:54:51 EST
    From: PTE3X@aol.com
    To: multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: John Arch audition tapes for DREAM THEATER
    Message-ID: <69759e4d.36c35fbb@aol.com>

    I remember at one time seeing on somebodys list that there were John Arch
    rehearsal, or audition tapes with DREAM THEATER.If any body has them, please
    contact me,because I am interested. Pete P. PTE3X@aol.com

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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:56:34 -0500 (EST)
    From: PhReEkY dEeK <lerxst@wam.umd.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4666 (NDTC)
    Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.990211174736.21802A-100000@rac10.wam.umd.edu>

    "Bernard, Chris" wrote:
    >About Tori live, Ilya (PhReEkY dEeK) wrote;
    >> her tour bosey was actually MIDI'd and sometimes _it_
    >> was triggering piano samples....

    >Why??? i claim almost total ignorance when it comes to computer/musical
    >instrument interfacing as well as performing live. i just can't
    >understand
    >why you'd use an incredible work of art (the bosey) to trigger sampled
    >piano
    >sounds. Any ideas?

    i thought the same thing. according to a july 98 article in SOS with her
    sound engineers though, the ambient sounds on stage resonate off the lid
    and soundboard and cause the mics to peg the meters from crowd noise
    alone. so they decided to use samples instead during the band songs,
    which, on second look, actually do come from the kurz. something to keep
    in mind the next time you think about taking your bose out on the road :)

    - ilya

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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:00:14 -0500 (EST)
    From: TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4666
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990211175533.17818A-100000@hubcap.clemson.edu>

    > From: Glen Brooks <g_brooks@yahoo.com>
    > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4666
    >
    >
    > Well, this would be impossible unless the chip can change the actual
    > laser. DVD uses a diferent laser light, blue laser to be exact. CD's
    > and burners use a red laser. So, in theory, what you were told, can't
    > work.

    more importantly, i think, DVDs use a much smaller laser. i don't know
    actual numbers (al? rogerio?) but i know it's much smaller. so yeah, the
    combination of a smaller laser (meaning smaller and more "tightly wound"
    tracks on the cd) and a higher wavelength are what allow DVDs to store so
    much more info on the same size disc. so not only changing the wavelength,
    which seems somewhat possible to someone like myself who doesn't know the
    technical details (i'm sure there's some reason why you can't just change
    the wavelength, like you need a different lens or something), the size of
    the laser is much easier to be regarded as fixed. ya know? heh, all this
    about stupid off-topic stuff. i shut up now, yes? yes. moo.

    --
    

    "You are what you eat, you fucking cannibal!" -- KorgX3

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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:26:17 EST From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: keys/CD buying trip/ Message-ID: <6f9c086.36c36719@aol.com>

    >< I'm trying to remember back to the Live in Tokyo vid, but I'm pretty damn sure that when they were showing the studio clips, Kev was playing a real piano. (Surrounded? I can't remember) ><

    I don't remember any clips of Kevin or Derek using a real piano, and I remember for a fact that Kevin was using a keyboard on LiT during the studio clips playing Surrounded.

    >< - I Took a look at some Tori Amos CDs.... I've never heard anything by her, so could somebody point me in the direction of a webpage with MP3's or something? ><

    Forget MP3's. go buy little earthquakes. you won't be disappointed.

    >< While I was there I figured it was a good time to increase my number of Iced Earth CDs, especially since they're in town in a few weeks. So I bought Night of the Stormrider. Well, after two listens I don't think it's as good as their last three (Burnt Offerings, The Dark Saga, and Something Wicked This Way Comes), but make no mistake: this is still a really good metal disc. ><

    Everytime someone praises Iced Earth, I have to jump in and disagree. =] Now I only have one album, The Dark Saga, but I thought it was one of the worst albums I'd ever heard and I gave it a chance and gave it a good listen and then I sold it.

    >< Also, I figured what the hell...... why not go ahead and order The Quiet Room's Introspect CD. ><

    Good move. Solid album. Not great, but good. Althougb a little too pre APSoG Fate-ish. It lacks hooks, but it is good. Although I heard from someone who lives in TQR's hometown that they got rid of their singer and now they're "death-ish" cookie monster vocals. What a waste of talent.

    Jim

    "I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

    NP - King's X: Faith, Hope, Love

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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:54:25 EST From: Stixntrixx@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Collective Soul Message-ID: <9728cf07.36c36db1@aol.com>

    Whoever posted about the new Collective Soul album was right on the money. This album is freakin' brilliant. I'm listening to it for the second time as I type this. These guys keep getting better and better with every album. This just made my top ten of the year and possibly of all time. I'd type more, but it would distract me for listening. Later.

    Richie

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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:59:18 EST From: Stixntrixx@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4666 Message-ID: <3ba73f8a.36c36ed6@aol.com>

    In a message dated 99-02-11 17:05:25 EST, you write:

    << There are some great songs there if you're MP3 hunting. >>

    While you're there, check out the RAIN CHEQUE song "Serenade" at http://www.mp3.com/music/Rock/7268.html.

    Richie

    -Sorry, but when you see an opportunity like that, it's hard to resist a little shameless self promotion.

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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:44:30 EST From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Maiden News and Bruce's Solo Career Message-ID: <c802f1f5.36c3796e@aol.com>

    In a message dated 99-02-11 07:11:45 EST, you write:

    << I have mixed feelings about the Iron Maiden reunion. On the one hand, there's a chance that Maiden might be able to come up with some great new music to rival their swansongs from Powerslave, 7th Son, etc, and undoubtedly the live shows will be worth dying for . . . BUT, does it mean an end to Bruce's solo career? His recent efforts, Accident of Birth and The Chemical Wedding, are two of the best metal albums of the decade, and far outshine anything Maiden have been involved in of late. The songwriting team of Bruce Dickinson, Adrian Smith and Roy Z is a killer combination, and I really hope we haven't seen the last of it. Having seen Bruce live with Adrian recently, it's gloriously obvious that few bands can come close to the intensity and power of this music; perhaps Maiden need to recruit Roy Z too? If you're gonna have three guitarists, you may as well get a fourth just for the hell of it. :-) >>

    I thought the exact same thing, Graham. I went to the official Maiden website where they had the announcement, photos from a photo shoot, and a brief question and answer session with the band. Of course, they avoided any vital question such as the one that you and I have. It was all crap like "so how does it feel to be back together after all these years?"... typical bullshit stuff. However, in the most recent issue of Metal Edge, there was an interview with Bruce, well before all this new stuff went down, and the interviewer asked Bruce to address all the rumors flying around about his rejoining Maiden. Bruce said that the only way he would consider a reunion was if he would be allowed to also continue his solo career. He recognized the fact that his last 2 albums were great and that he would not want to jeopardize that for anything. I'm sure that in the wake of this huge news, we are going to see quite a few interviews with many of the members of Maiden, so I think we can be confident that these types of questions will be addressed. I just hope, also, that Steve is willing to give up some of his stranglehold on the band's songwriting process and let Bruce and Adrian have their input as well.

    Here's to hoping that Maiden can recapture the magic of old...

    - Matt T.

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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:03:44 EST From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Stratovarius Question Message-ID: <82e90dfb.36c37df0@aol.com>

    Hey -

    It has recently come to my attention that the Japanese version of Stratovarius's "Destiny" has a bonus track, "Dream With Me", that's not on any other version of the CD.

    Is there a sound file floating around on the net somewhere, preferably an MP3, that I can download so I can hear what this song sounds like? Hey Jens, are you going to release any other singles off the album with this as a B-Side???

    Thanks all..... Matt T.

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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:13:38 EST From: YtseJamJMB@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Flight of the Bumble Bee bass tab Message-ID: <1c48a506.36c38042@aol.com>

    Hello Jammers,

    For those of you who dont check the site that often, there is a bass tab of the Flight of the Bumble Bee. Bassists should check it out if they don't already know how to play it.

    Later jammers

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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:28:16 -0500 From: Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: 2 guitarists Message-ID: <36C383B0.F450620@frontierlogic.com>

    Sebast87@aol.com wrote: > > Iron Maiden with 3 guitarists > so, maybe one day DT with 2 guitarists, why not?

    Yech!!!! I simply can't imagine Dream Theater with someone else playing guitar. Yech!!!

    -mojoman

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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:16:15 -0500 (EST) From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: keys/CD buying trip/ Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.990211211446.6934A-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>

    On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 JamesAhab@aol.com wrote:

    > I don't remember any clips of Kevin or Derek using a real piano, and I > remember for a fact that Kevin was using a keyboard on LiT during the studio > clips playing Surrounded. >

    Actually, I think he plays an actual piano on SDV. You can hear the sustain pedals while he is playing the intro. I also think that there is an actual piano in the liner notes of Awake.

    -Al

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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:27:33 EST From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: he does speak | piano in prog | unreleased DT | ytsejam defined Message-ID: <314e0254.36c39195@aol.com>

    >< Actually he has a small spoken blurb in the video "Live in Tokyo" He says and I quote "I'm feelin' kinda spooky, all right, I'll take it, I'm sold" or something like that as he is trying on a Kimono in a clothing store, it's the only time that i have ever heard him utter any words. ><

    LOL. That's the only tme I've ever heard him talk, too. He did say something on stage at the Philly christmas show, but he wasn't miked.

    As for a good acoustic piano as well as electric keyboards, check out Vitalij Kuprij's 1st solo album, "High Definition," where they are both used.

    >< BTW, anybody heard of Moon Bubbles and Excellent?They are supposed to be unreleased tracks of DT.If anybody know, please give me all the details. ><

    Moon Bubbles is an instrumental which I believe is based on their Collins-era stuff. I've never heard of any song called Excellent. Speaking of unreleased DT; anybody ever heard of the song Allusion, a track left off of WDADU? I thought this was better than most of those songs. Great ballad-type song with a lot of hooks

    >< I've had my "YTSEJAM" lisence plate/tag for a couple of months now and the mechanic, after working on my car, asked, "what is 'ytsejam'?" ><

    What did you tell him?

    Jim

    NP - Collective Soul: Dosage

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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:41:27 -0500 (EST) From: Robert LaDuca <rlladuca@rs01.kings.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: signed DT FII CD for auction to benefit NEARfest Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.990211213705.46686J-100000@rs01.kings.edu>

    To benefit the inaugural North East Art Rock Festival, featuring Spock's Beard, IQ, Ice Age, Mastermind, many others...we are auctioning off a copy of Falling into Infinity signed in metallic calligraphy pen by Portnoy, Petrucci, LaBrie...and new member Jordan Rudess. Sorry, couldn't track down Johnny. Minimum bid on this signed Dream Theater CD is $30. All proceeds benefit the not-for-profit NEARfest. Please email any bids to: nearfest1@ghostland.com

    NEARfest will be held on June 26 & 27 at the Foy Concert Hall at Moravian College in Bethlehem PA. Tickets are going fast, we expect to sell out sometime in March. Please visit our official website at: http://ghostland.com/nearfest for more information.

    Peace, Rob LaDuca President, NEARfest

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    Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:57:09 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: he does speak | piano in prog | unreleased DT | ytsejam defined Message-ID: <002201be5633$a0c5f000$6e0d84d0@default>

    >LOL. That's the only tme I've ever heard him talk, too. He did say >on stage at the Philly christmas show, but he wasn't miked.

    hehehe. He spoke on the 1st Xmas CD, too, don't forget. When the rest of the guys asked him what he wanted for Christmas he repeated... "What would I like for Christmas? Yes, I would like silence..."

    hehehe. This from The Silent Man. I think that spooky incident with the kimono in Japan must have strained his vocal chords badly. :\ -- KorgX3 is walking on broken Hershey's bars. NP: Roy D. Mercer: How big a boy are ya'? - Vol. I

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