YTSEJAM Digest 4668
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4667
by "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
2) DickinBruce's solo career (NDTC)
by Bobby Tufino <slimegod@deskmail.com>
3) New DT mp3 available!
by Adam Pye <alpine@bellsouth.net>
4) myung
by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
5) RE: Collective Soul
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
6) bored...(no-dt)
by Chris <chrisj@access.mountain.net>
7) 2 guitars
by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee>
8) Re:Ytsejam - defined
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
9) Oop's
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
10) Howie Stern and MORE Tori. And even a word (just two) of DTC
by "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
11) re: mp3 ripping
by "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4667
by Dave M Klint <davek@csh.rit.edu>
13) Re: Howie Stern and MORE Tori. And even a word (just two) of DTC
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
14) Superior music.
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
15) instruMENTAL
by MaxArbot@aol.com
16) Re: Howard Stern SUCKS!!!!
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
17) Re: Re:Ytsejam - defined
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
18) re: John Arch audition tapes for DREAM THEATER
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
19) Re: 2 guitarists
by "Adriano/Luisa Giacomini" <algiacomini@sti.com.br>
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:30:44 -0600 (CST)
From: "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4667
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.990211222815.56306L-100000@black.weeg.uiowa.edu>
> Speaking of unreleased DT; anybody ever heard of the song
>Allusion, a track left off of WDADU? I thought this was better
>than most of those songs. Great ballad-type song with a lot of
>hooks
--Any way to obtain a copy of this, I've never heard of
it. Any info would be graciously accepted, e-mail privately please,
thanx!
-Derek
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:58:59 -0500
From: Bobby Tufino <slimegod@deskmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: DickinBruce's solo career (NDTC)
Message-ID: <36C3B512.C6053073@deskmail.com>
Well, as it turns out, a couple of weeks before the reunion was announced, a
friend of mine talked to someone in Canada who I believe does promotions for
Bruce's band...he was told by Bruce's manager, I believe, that there is no more
band...Bruce was taking off for England right away, I think to talk to Steve
Harris. I don't remember who exactly this came from, but I'm in touch with CMC
fairly often, and talk to promotions people regularly, so as far as I know this is
totally confirmed...sorry, no more DickinBruce. by the way, imagine how sick
Maiden will sound live, Adrian and Dave doing harmony leads...and Janick playing
rhythm guitar...perhaps they will gain some badly needed chunk during their
leads. UP THE FUCKIN IRONS.
Bobby
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:12:07 -0500
From: Adam Pye <alpine@bellsouth.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: New DT mp3 available!
Message-ID: <4.2.0.24.19990211162846.00a5fb40@mail.lig.bellsouth.net>
Hey folks...
I got a few requests on IRC for a good sound quality version of Lost
Without You. I've put an mp3 up of the version from Birch Hill
6/9/95. This is the infamous Mercy Fuck show and is excellent sound
quality-wise. The URL for my page is in my .sig. Hope everyone enjoys!
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:27:51 -0500
From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: myung
Message-ID: <36C3BBD7.2A039B@bigfoot.com>
Listen, who can tell me how to get rid of the two en-dashes at the top
of my sig? I'm using Netscape Messenger. Anyone? Anyone?
I spoke to JM briefly at the Vanderbilt show in L.I. I asked him
something about his chapman stick, I don't remember what. I just wanted
to hear him talk, really. He politely answered my question with
absolutely no indication that he was uncomfortable talking to me. It was
a nice little mini-conversation. In my experience, therefore, he is much
more outgoing than JP, who can be evasive. And it's not like JM is
totally passive onstage, either. He'll grimace and stuff. sometimes.
Furthermore, I think he adds a coolness to the image of the band.
Mystic, perhaps.
-- Joshua Rasiel jrasi@bigfoot.com www.j51.com/~mrasiel ................... "The fact that he carries a magic bag doesn't make him gay!" - spokesman for Tinky Winky, the purple Teletubbie.------------------------------
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:16:33 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: RE: Collective Soul Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C960564980927B@messaging>
It's amazing - there's a mainstream band that's actually *good* (no prog whatsoever) There is, however, a song in a time sig other than 4/4. OK, fine, it's a rather unimpressive 3/4, which I guess could equal 8/12 :)...
And it came to pass the CS missionaries did convert another to the fold. FUCK YEAH!!
David
<<<<<< Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:54:25 EST ]From: Stixntrixx@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Collective Soul Message-ID: <9728cf07.36c36db1@aol.com>
Whoever posted about the new Collective Soul album was right on the money. This album is freakin' brilliant. I'm listening to it for the second time as I type this. These guys keep getting better and better with every album. This just made my top ten of the year and possibly of all time. I'd type more, but it would distract me for listening. Later.
Richie >>>>
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 03:15:06 -0500 From: Chris <chrisj@access.mountain.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: bored...(no-dt) Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990212031506.007ece90@access.mountain.net>
Well, this little project I have going is about finished. Some of you may have heard the YNM and PS covers on the DTCovers page, well the band has a few other songs available for download as well, with more to some.
Knowing what critical bastards you all are, and I mean that in the nicest possible way :), who better to ask for feed back.
Look under the music section. Thanks for any feedback you give!
Chris R. http://www.shipoffools.org
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:26:31 +0200 From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: 2 guitars Message-ID: <199902120826.KAA23365@xyz.estcard.ee>
]From: Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
> I simply can't imagine Dream Theater with someone else playing guitar.
can I say Sy Vy? ;-)
Raitz
P.S. No one-liners, so here comes another one.
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 03:04:33 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re:Ytsejam - defined Message-ID: <36C3EEA1.6E77F3E9@isd.net>
I-Man wrote: >would honk their horn, and give me the thumbs up or something. Here I am >an old fart thinking, what the hell does it mean - Majesty backwards, an >internet mailing list, I'm a Dream Theater fan...?
>If a stranger asked you, "what does YTSEJAM? What would you say?
Look at them like they're stupid, and say: "If you need to ask, you'll never understand anyway, so what's the point?"
Funny thing is... I can imagine some of them running off to the library to reference "YTSEJAM," And others wondering about this secret Majesty cult.
Keep 'em guessing.
You have no idea how much bullshit I get from this sig. (outside the Ytse-community)
/Al is learning how to play "Also sprach Zarathustra" on the Swinette.
The Swinette is a simple musical instrument that was invented in 1971 by a poor Wisconsin farmer named Arnold Spambauer. Arnold discovered that a section of dried pig intestine stretched across a hockey stick made a very unique bow. The Swinettist sits in a 24" arm less chair, hooks five pubic hairs onto the toenails of his/her right foot and stretches them to the floor. The taught hairs are then bowed with the Swinette. A skilled Swinettist can make interesting pitch changes by wiggling the toes on the right foot in unison with the bowing action.
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 03:10:34 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Oop's Message-ID: <36C3F00A.303F7294@isd.net>
Taut, not taught!!! Did I really do that? Doh!
Eckies' crack pipe sure is making the rounds. -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:11:00 GMT From: "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Howie Stern and MORE Tori. And even a word (just two) of DTC Message-ID: <1F70AD338E@sdk1.derby.ac.uk>
> Subject: Howard Stern SUCKS!!!! > That's interesting, since Howard's been using the intro to the > A common NYC sewer rat has more class than Howard Stern. Forgive my ignorance - WTF is Howard Stern? Should I kick my own arse right now? > the intro to The Mirror every once in a while since Awake came AKA "Puppies On Acid" to everyone else on the 'Jam...
> and gimmicks to me (can we say Met@llic@?). I can't wait for the first Oh, can't we leave it now? I'm so sick of everyone going on about bands sellinhg out. I'm not going to rant about this right now, but don't worry: I will when I can be arsed.
> > her tour bosey was actually MIDI'd and sometimes _it_ > > was triggering piano samples.... > Why??? i claim almost total ignorance when it comes to computer/musical > instrument interfacing as well as performing live. i just can't understand > why you'd use an incredible work of art (the bosey) to trigger sampled piano > sounds. Any ideas? Erm...For much the same reason as using a sequencer live, I'd have thought. Tori's obviously not going to get in a second keyboard player (insert obvious-yet-hopefull DS crack here...), and she wants as much piano in there as possible. Well, let's face it - the rest of the band are so fucking timid that they may as well not be there. Personally, I'm voting for her next tour to include Matt Sorum on Drums and JP - or indeed, my good self - on guitar.
> >while it is true that she used a kurzweil k2500XS and a K2500R on > >the plugged '98 tour, she did not use any of the built-in piano > >samples > Very true, but I never said that she used it for the piano stuff. As I'm talking crap, and I'd like to apologise. But then, so was the guy I was replying to, so I'm not going to beg for forgiveness, merely ask. Of course, Tori *did* use the Kurzy for playing "Bells For Her" and "Black Dove (January)" live, and - I suspect - for the latter in the studio. I still challenge anyone to take me on over Tori Amos (please!). And since she ain't on-line...
Si, The Jam's resident UK Tori person
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:16:21 PST From: "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: re: mp3 ripping Message-ID: <19990212091621.24195.qmail@hotmail.com>
wow.. i'm glad i'm not the only one.. i was starting to feel pretty lame.. i got 3 mp3 compilation cd's.. just about 2 gig's worth.. and that's just the one's on CD's i've made.. i got a ton more ripped (i do this all at my work).. just haven't gotten around to popping a cd in the burner for some reason mp3's kick ass
inferno
>>Or they can be people like me, who for some reason (boredom, >>perhaps) sift through their whole catalog of CD's (400+) and >>rip them all to MP3 format. >> >>Speaking of which, I've gotta order another hard drive soon. :)
>You do that too? I haven't done as many, but I've ripped >many CD's in the past 6 months, maybe 250 or so. Being >stuck in a college dorm room, That's the only place I listen >to music. Since radio completely sucks anymore, it's great >.to sit back and shuffle through 300+ songs at one time. It's >like having your own personal radio station. I agree with >those of you who said MP3s are brilliant. I too have also >used them to sample great bands such as Royal Hunt, Vanden >Plas, ... If they're used in the appropriate >way, I see nothing at all wrong with them.
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:56:22 -0500 From: Dave M Klint <davek@csh.rit.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4667 Message-ID: <199902121356.IAA28577@elwood.csh.rit.edu>
>store and weaseled a few jewel cases for myself while finally picking up >waiting for the punchline on CD.... Rock on! It pisses me off that this CD was so good and the band still broke up. Damn Gary and his yearn to he a Van Halener.
>speaking of which, can someone with a clue send me details about Nuno's >new solo album? inquiring minds, y'know? >partha YES! Go out and buy this NOW (if you can find it anywhere). Nuno's solo album (since he was going by Nuno and not Nuno Bettencourt) is called Scitzophonic (sp?). Its awesome if you like a lot of the Extreme stuff (the _real_ Extreme stuff, not the girly More than Words crap). I found it in a used CD store (it was new too!) about 3 years ago, and I don't know if its still in print. As far as I can tell, the man has been sitting on his ass the past few years. Anyone have any clues where my once favorite guitarist has gone? -davek
NP: Event - Electric Skies
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:46:43 -0500 (EST) From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Howie Stern and MORE Tori. And even a word (just two) of DTC Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.990212094312.8770A-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Simon John Dodd wrote:
> > > Subject: Howard Stern SUCKS!!!! > > That's interesting, since Howard's been using the intro to the > > A common NYC sewer rat has more class than Howard Stern. > Forgive my ignorance - WTF is Howard Stern? Should I kick my own arse > right now?
since you're in the UK, we'll let it go. He's a big (but apparently controversial) radio personality here in the US. Basically, I believe he has the largest audience, en total, of any other radio show in the US (except maybe for that ridiculous LoveLine crap). The only exposure you may have gotten to him was his movie Private Parts, but I don't know how big it was in Europe (probably not that big).
> > the intro to The Mirror every once in a while since Awake came > AKA "Puppies On Acid" to everyone else on the 'Jam...
well, if you want to be technical about it, it's actually the intro the "The Mirror", since the clip is from the Awake album. I just hate being corrected... :)
-Al
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:34:37 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Superior music. Message-ID: <36C44A0C.D6A661AC@isd.net>
Bernd wrote:
[Wow... seems like I've been lurking for quite a while... :)
> Hey Bernd, What's the story on "Until The End?" [Well, concerning the piano, Jan had some really great piano [sounds but there was Roko with his BIG reverb and delay sounds [and he just destroyed it... We really like more dry and direct [sounds. But as it was our first production, we listened maybe a [little to much to Roko who was engineering it... I think the sounds [on Younique are much more direct and clear. Well, there we knew [more clearly what we wanted and so we told Roko exactly what he [had to do and what not... [Concerning the story of Until the end... well, Jan had some [problems with some girl... :)
Thanks for the information, I appreciate it!
Just a few more questions, bernd. :)
What's new on the horizon for Superior? How did you guys like touring with Vanden Plas? Does you guitar stay crunchy in milk?
NP: Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells (on vinyl) -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:49:22 EST From: MaxArbot@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: instruMENTAL Message-ID: <d7e916ad.36c44d82@aol.com>
This is a song that I've been working on for the past few days. It's a remix/medley/(tribute?) of several ideas from Dream Theater songs. I mixed it as a giant WAV file out of mostly loud and heavy parts of DT songs. So if loud and heavy is not your cup of tea, you might want to turn your speakers down. It's called "instruMENTAL" because it has no vocals. I could really use any feedback any has for me (preferably, nice feedback <wince>). I think this is the final version unless something makes me want to change it.
I'm sure there are plenty of you that will hate it just because it's not the original song. I'm sorry.
I need a web site that I can upload an MP3 I just made. It's about 8MB and my crappy AOL server only allows 2MB per screen name. Anyone know where I could temporarily get 8MB for this?
[eriC]
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:01:42 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Howard Stern SUCKS!!!! Message-ID: <36C45E76.751F@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Frank Benenati mojo-ed:
> A common NYC sewer rat has more class than Howard Stern.
Only a New Yorker can sum it up so well :)
Yeah, I knew about Stern using The Mirror. Interesting pattern, eh? Maybe this is the master plan: Dream Theater works their way into the mainstream subtly, say via AM radio? heheheheh
Dave Thomas wrote: > One time he referred to the music as "what will be playing when the > gates of Hell open" or something along those lines
That's just some nasty axe ain't it? :)
Fine, I'll shoot an e-mail out to Steven King this afternoon about JP scoring his next thriller ;)
>I still think either DT and/or LTE should go into the Stern studio and >scare the crap out of the gang with their musical talent.
Knowing what Howard's into, I wonder what their wives would have to say about it :)
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:07:00 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Re:Ytsejam - defined Message-ID: <002601be56aa$36aa1da0$0201010a@chuck>
>If a stranger asked you, "what does YTSEJAM? What would you say?
It's an acronym for "Yet Thou Shalt Eternally Jeer As Madmen."
And there you go. -- KorgX3 thinks it describes the music rather well.
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:44:38 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: re: John Arch audition tapes for DREAM THEATER Message-ID: <19990212174438.20988.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com>
> I remember at one time seeing on somebodys list that there were John Arch > rehearsal, or audition tapes with DREAM THEATER.If any body has them, please > contact me, because I am interested. Pete P.
You may be able to find a version of "The Killing Hand" with John Arch singing. The quality of the recording is not good, but it's great if you like Arch. But no, I don't have it...
- BH
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:45:03 -0200 From: "Adriano/Luisa Giacomini" <algiacomini@sti.com.br> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: 2 guitarists Message-ID: <000201be56b8$96260d80$3b17d3c8@default>
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