YTSEJAM Digest 4683
Today's Topics:
1) New copyright violations on my hp *g*
by "Sven Laser" <std10317@dial.techfak.uni-kiel.de>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4681
by DTheater99@aol.com
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4681
by DTheater99@aol.com
4) one hit wonders and More Guitars
by "Joe Bissonnette" <Bissonnette@cdr.wisc.edu>
5) Music Meant To Be Heard
by "dreamer" <dreamer@otenet.gr>
6) Royal hunt page?
by "Matija" <fmatias@peoples.com.ar>
7) METAL EDGE LAG TIME
by JKorby1973@aol.com
8) metal's comeback in L.A.
by "Paul T. Fini" <fini@engineering.ucsb.edu>
9) LAWSUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by JKorby1973@aol.com
10) 89.5
by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4682
by ANGELO LOMBARDI <angelo13@home.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4682
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
13) Fates Warning mp3z...
by PsyCh0tIc <psychothiz@yahoo.com>
14) IN FLAMES
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@umail.ucsb.edu>
15) John Myung's sound
by Robert Jurado <rojurado@pacific.net.ph>
16) Crash and Burn
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
17) Re: IN FLAMES
by rbrito@iname.com
18) pardon?
by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
19) great new music
by "Scott Bivins" <scott547@worldnet.att.net>
20) mp3 dummy
by Kyle McCabe <kmccabe@wavetech.net>
21) CONCEPTION "Black on Black" (revealed!)
by "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:28:00 +0100
From: "Sven Laser" <std10317@dial.techfak.uni-kiel.de>
To: <fates@listservant.com>, <blind-guardian@onelist.com>, <ytsejam@axnet.net>,
Subject: New copyright violations on my hp *g*
Message-ID: <000001be5c46$586913a0$26f7f586@default>
Please check out the new MP3 files on my homepage:
http://www.sven-laser.de/mp3/index.htm
I added tracks by DIGITAL RUIN, HEADSHOP TOYS, SEER'S TEAR and TWILIGHT
KINGDOM.
Metal on!
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:40:23 EST
From: DTheater99@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4681
Message-ID: <33625a48.36cdcc37@aol.com>
Did anyone catch the DT article in the latest issue of Metal Edge mag?
Basically it talked about the releases of 5YIAL and OIAL. I was wondering =
why
it didn't include any info on Jordan joining the band...
Anyway it was cool to see DT in a mag...
Actually if youread the Metal Wire, it says that DT had changed keyboardists
but it was too close to press time to put any additional information.
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:42:58 EST
From: DTheater99@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4681
Message-ID: <da136227.36cdccd2@aol.com>
hey
I really know nothing about Fates Warning, i do not own any CD of them. I wish
i got a cd, but i do not know which cd i will buy. So what cd is the I&W of
fates warning, i mean the easier for a first taste? thanks to e-mail me
privately
sebast
The best Fates CD is probably Parallels..but i love them all (with Ray on
vocals)
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:30:15 -0600
From: "Joe Bissonnette" <Bissonnette@cdr.wisc.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: one hit wonders and More Guitars
Message-ID: <8625671D.00736452.00@domino.cdr.wisc.edu>
ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
Brian said:
> Pres. of the USA had Peaches, Lump, and another that I don't remember off
hand.
> Eve 6 can't really be used as a case yet, it's too early. They've just
released
> their second single. Tripping Daisy, I don't know much about, and the
Flys, I
> haven't heard of.
Write Eve6 off now, their songs are just plain irritating. The Flys aren't
bad though. Of course I've only heard the one song (and a bootlegged cover
of Crazy Train that's pretty cool).
<About Ben Folds>
> I like them too, but I've never heard anything other than Brick on the
radio,
> outside of college stations.
The only other radio hit I know of theirs is Underground. I liked them the
first few times I listened to their album, but the more I listen to it the
more it fills me with the urge to defecate ("Go on Judge..."). Kind of the
opposite of most prog albums.
BTW, what's Chris DeGarmo up to these days? He would make a decent 2nd for
DT. And having heard the new QR samples it would appear he's not the one
responsible for their shitty last album. Or maybe swipe Alex Lifeson from
Rush for a few months. I'd love to hear JP with another guitarist (more
guitars MORE MORE MORE!!!!!!). I don't see Vai or Satriani as backup
guitarists though. Just listen to the end of the G3 album. When they have
to share the lead it sounds like hell. Nuno would be awesome though. And
he can sing...
Biz
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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:59:38 -0000
From: "dreamer" <dreamer@otenet.gr>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Music Meant To Be Heard
Message-ID: <000701be5c74$acaaf7c0$b579a7c3@dreamrealm>
Hey guys, I just sent this message because I'm interested in finding
Kevin's "Music Meant To Be Heard" demos in the CD form that Mike Bahr had
sometime ago released (as far as I know, of course....), anyone who would be
interested in trade of some sort, please email me privately at
dreamer@otenet.gr and we'll just work something out...
cheers, Aris
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:27:22 -0300
From: "Matija" <fmatias@peoples.com.ar>
To: "ytsejam mail list" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Royal hunt page?
Message-ID: <000301be5c6d$d39b17e0$37710ed1@matiasfr>
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Where i can find a good Royal hunt page.
Someone knows?
Thanx
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 20:16:24 EST
From: JKorby1973@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: METAL EDGE LAG TIME
Message-ID: <8f5eeb9d.36ce0ce8@aol.com>
In a message dated 99-02-19 11:14:17 EST, you write:
<< Did anyone catch the DT article in the latest issue of Metal Edge mag?
Basically it talked about the releases of 5YIAL and OIAL. I was wondering =
why
it didn't include any info on Jordan joining the band...
Anyway it was cool to see DT in a mag... >>
Because some magazines- ESPECIALLY Metal Edge, (although it's still one of
the only kickass rock mags out there) have a serious lag time between the time
they get printed, and the time they finally released to the public. Sometimes
Metal Edge is up to 3 months behind in current events, so when that issue was
printed, Jordan probably wasn't even a member yet. For example, there was an
interview w/ Motley Crue talking about how excited they were about their
greatest hits album that was coming out in a few weeks, but at the time I read
it (right when the issue came out), the album had already been out for over a
month.
It's kind of a pain, but like I said, they're the only good major rock
magazine left these days.
- JK
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:29:29 -0700
From: "Paul T. Fini" <fini@engineering.ucsb.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: metal's comeback in L.A.
Message-ID: <v03102801b2f3b1601e47@[128.111.29.61]>
Before sacrificing somebody upon the altar, Mosh wrote:
>Amongst all this talk of music cycles and music industry happenings and
>people's tastes and record companies losing money... I have to say that
>there are positive signs that metal is making a huge comeback in the Los
>Angeles/Hollywood area...
>
>Dream Theater has played the HoB numerous times and have not even come
>close to selling out the 1000-1200 seat venue. Other BIG NAME acts too
>numerous to mention have not sold out the House of Blues...
Ah, I'm not too sure about this one, Mosh. As far as I know, DT _did_
sell out the HoB, since one time I went with two extra tickets and sold
them pronto for well over cost (no, I'm not a scalper, just paying for
gas to drive down from Santa Barbara). Why would ravenous fans gladly
scoop up the tix from me when they could go to the window and not even
have to deal with the "bend-me-over" Tickbastard charge? My impression
was that DT did very well at the HoB both times I've seen them there:
if they didn't sell out, they came close.
p.
-.-- -.-- --.. -.-- -.-- --.. -.-- -.-- --.. -.-- -.-- --.. -.-- -.-- --..
Paul T. Fini U.C. Santa Barbara
fini@engineering.ucsb.edu Materials Dept.
voice (805)893-8869, fax (805)893-8971 MOCVD group
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 20:40:49 EST
From: JKorby1973@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: LAWSUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <9bffa06.36ce12a1@aol.com>
>Kevin Rackley
>Official Soul Reason Website
>http://members.aol.com/rackleyk/
>
>Currently in the car's changer:
>
>1.) Dream Theater - Images & Words
>2.) Terry Bozzio - Drawing the Circle=20
>3.) Bangles - Greatest Hits
>4.) Dokken - Under Lock and Key (so sue me)
>5.) Jan Hammer - Beyond the Mind's Eye Soundtrack
>6.) Asia - Live in Russia
Actually, I would MUCH rather sue you over the whole "Bangles-Greatest
Hits" thing, (but that's just me). Just giving you shit man. To tell ya the
truth, that "Eternal Flame" song rules. Makes me wanna gently weep - just like
my guitar!
Later!
- JK
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 20:42:53 -0500
From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: 89.5
Message-ID: <199902200137.UAA09694@maila.wm.edu>
>and try WSOU (south orange university), 89.5, if you can get them over
>WSIA... they'll sate your metal lust... 8-)
Hey, I thought that was Seton Hall pirate radio, and it's located in South
Orange. *wince* Sorry.. I discovered that place about a year and a half
ago, and yes, it does sate that metal lust... :)
first place I ever heard Type O played on the air; after that, I knew I had
to listen more.
Alex
"We at the FBI have no sense of humor that we are aware of" - K, MiB
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 20:52:35 -0500
From: ANGELO LOMBARDI <angelo13@home.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4682
Message-ID: <36CE1563.2C9CC53@home.com>
> I don't think DT needs more Guitars, but if it did, guys like
> Steve Vai and Joe Satriani
> would fit the place!!!
>
> PsyCh0tIc....
DT does NOT need more guitars!!!!!!! JP is incredible alone. Vai &
Satriani are ALL effects. I SUCK on the guitar, BUT I can sound like
Vai or Satriani with 20 effect rack AND about 15 foot pedals. Hit one
note & it sounds like Bach or Mozart. ANYBODY can use effects, but JP
is just GREAT! Probably my fav guitarist.
Angelo
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:08:27 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4682
Message-ID: <36CE272B.554EA9BB@caribe.net>
ANGELO LOMBARDI wrote:
> > I don't think DT needs more Guitars, but if it did, guys like
> > Steve Vai and Joe Satriani
> > would fit the place!!!
> >
> > PsyCh0tIc....
>
> DT does NOT need more guitars!!!!!!! JP is incredible alone. Vai &
> Satriani are ALL effects. I SUCK on the guitar, BUT I can sound like
> Vai or Satriani with 20 effect rack AND about 15 foot pedals. Hit one
> note & it sounds like Bach or Mozart. ANYBODY can use effects, but JP
> is just GREAT! Probably my fav guitarist.
>
> Angelo
Man now youre really talking out of your ass... granted, vai does use
effects often.. but i dare you to play for the love of god and sound like
vai...or play always with me , always with you and sound like satriani...
--
Carlos A. Alfaro
SysAdmin.: Internet Solutions Inc.
mailto:calfaro@yunque.net / mailto:calfaro@caribe.net
(ICQ)1254229
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Date: 20 Feb 99 00:26:17 -0300
From: PsyCh0tIc <psychothiz@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Fates Warning mp3z...
Message-ID: <02282952229698@yahoo.com>
Does anybody know where do I get really good mp3z from Fates Warning and Type O Negative???
If anyone here has mp3z of this band... pls mail me privately, we can negociate trades... I have all DT's CDs (except Live at Marquee).... and lots of mp3s and VQFs on my HD...
thAnx.
PsyCh0tIc...
:[e0f]:.
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:08:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@umail.ucsb.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: IN FLAMES
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.990219190252.12161A-100000@bergman.umail.ucsb.edu>
Do you like HAMMERFALL, but not the cheese?
Do you like the atmosphere of black metal but not the image?
Do you like the riffing of old METALLICA?
Are you sick of the flood of new bands devoid of all intensity or
emotion?
Do you like kick ass MELODIC HEAVY FUCKING METAL?
Then go and buy IN FLAMES's 'Whoracle' RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
The most intense and yet beautiful album i have heard in a long
time.
--
Conrad Chi
uchic00@umail.ucsb.edu
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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:30:49 +0700
From: Robert Jurado <rojurado@pacific.net.ph>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: John Myung's sound
Message-ID: <36CE3A79.859F0E41@pacific.net.ph>
Any bass players out there have any clue why it is that we just
can't hear JM most of the time? I can barely hear the guy.
Sure, he'll be audible on most of the songs for which he wrote the
lyrics, but what's up the rest of the time? Is that a common thing
for bass players to be barely audible? Maybe, I just need a real
stereo or a bass unit for my little bookshelf system.
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:08:28 -0600
From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Crash and Burn
Message-ID: <36CE353C.2EEFBC8@isd.net>
Tom Baddley wrote:
>experienced odd time sigs was the song "Crash and Burn" (and the Cars' "All
>I Can Do"). Does ANYONE have a copy of PT's first album (Pat Travers)? It
>had a mellow instrumental with great bass work starting it out. I can't
>find a copy of it anywhere, and my cassette has long since given up the
>ghost.
I have everything mentioned above... On vinyl.
If I remember corectly, the Pat Travers and Cars albums I have are all
in good condition. And yes, I do have a cassette deck. A damn good one
at that. The Turntable I have is well up to the task as well.
And for a slight fee..... :) <I'm kidding
Send me some good quality tapes and a prepaid shipping box return addressed
to you and I'd be happy to record them for you.
--
Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
^
Switchcraft Microsystems
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead
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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 02:33:31 -0300
From: rbrito@iname.com
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: IN FLAMES
Message-ID: <19990220023331.E512@iname.com>
On Feb 19 1999, Conrad Chi wrote:
>=20
> Do you like HAMMERFALL, but not the cheese?
> Do you like the atmosphere of black metal but not the image?
Pardon me, but In Flames is Death Metal, Melodic Death Metal.
> Do you like the riffing of old METALLICA?
> Are you sick of the flood of new bands devoid of all intensity or
> emotion?
> Do you like kick ass MELODIC HEAVY FUCKING METAL?
>=20
> Then go and buy IN FLAMES's 'Whoracle' RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
> The most intense and yet beautiful album i have heard in a long
> time.
You seem to like "Whoracle" a bit, right? Then, you should
definitely check "The Jester Race". Not only in my opinion, "Whoracle"
is the second coming of "The Jester Race".
BTW, one of the most entertaining aspects of In Flames is that
their lyrics actually say something and they're usually refletions
about the structure of the society and social relationships.
It's nice to listen to bands in heavy metal that don't use the
clich=E9s of any kind of tales.
[]s, Roger...
--=20
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Rogerio Brito - rbrito@iname.com - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/
Undergrad. Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!"
Nectar homepage: http://www.linux.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/opeth/
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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:38:02 -0500
From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: pardon?
Message-ID: <36CE4A3A.1D23ADD0@bigfoot.com>
>I will criticize rap, but i wouldn't ever be caught being idiotic
enough
>to slam the entire genre as unimaginative and uninspiring....
You forgot uncreative and monotonous. Doofus.
--
Joshua Rasiel jrasi@bigfoot.com www.j51.com/~mrasiel
Churchill's description of history: "It's just one damn thing after
another."
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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:31:51 -0000
From: "Scott Bivins" <scott547@worldnet.att.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: great new music
Message-ID: <003201be5c69$70eaa560$eec54b0c@oemcomputer>
Like many of you, I am always in search of great new music. I think I've
found it. If you wanna hear one of the most kick ass tunes in your life, go
to http://www.mp3.com and click on "heavy metal" and then scroll down the
top 100 songs and download this tune called "Puppet" by "Something Wicked".
It is freaking amazing.
Scott
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:59:43 -0600
From: Kyle McCabe <kmccabe@wavetech.net>
To: Ytsejammers <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: mp3 dummy
Message-ID: <36CE4F4F.66D84E9F@wavetech.net>
Hey Jammers,
I tried playing an mp3 Winamp and all I heard was a
machine-gun-like sound blasting from my speakers. Is there a
problem with my computer, or is it just Winamp? I don't have a
clue here, so any help would be appreciated. And email ME not
the jam. Thanks
Kyle
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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 02:10:18 -0500
From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: CONCEPTION "Black on Black" (revealed!)
Message-ID: <36CE5FDA.38B0C776@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Conception - this has been BOTHERING me
>
>
> Alright, I consider myself pretty familiar with Conception. But this deal
> with the Black on Black lyrics being included in the Parallel Minds booklet
> has been a mystery for me for a LONG time. I've been searching the web,
> but haven't been able to locate any facts with regard to this.
Ok here's the deal on probably one of the BEST songs CONCEPTION ever
wrote that very few fans know about. The amazing song "Black on Black"
was a Japanese bonus track for the "Power of Metal" live 2-disc set on
Noise Records which featured 4 bands (GAMMA RAY, RAGE, CONCEPTION, and
HELICON)....GR and RAGE took up most of the discs while CONCEPTION and
HELICON had about 3-4 songs each.
Even though the lyrics for "Black on Black" are in the booklet the song
has only appeared on that live compilation as far as I know.
But.....WHAT A SONG IT IS!!! The only way I know is because a friend
from Brazil sent me the song on tape and I was FLOORED!!! This song is
EASILY one of CONEPTION's most amazing compositions and its a damn shame
more people haven't heard it. Throughout the whole song there are
acoustic and electric doubled leads/riffs, etc....its the acoustic
guitar interplay that makes this song just EXPLODE right from the first
glorious second down to the last.
I can't understand how they could make this song a bonus track....It
could have been the TITLE track it's that good! ahhhhh...now I have to
find that tape and hunt down "Black on Black" because I'm drooling just
thinking about it.....what a gem.
hope that helped :)
cheers,
Carlo (Fates)
NP: THE GATHERING "How To Measure A Planet?"
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