YTSEJAM Digest 4687
Today's Topics:
1) Re: (no subject)
by Craig Griffith <tarkus@softhome.net>
2) Re: (no subject)
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
3) Jordan Rudess chat
by Gary Davis <artshop@artist-shop.com>
4) Re: CD Now specials...
by Jeff <jhafer@loudoun.com>
5) Re: Ignorance is bliss...get ready for Hell
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
6) Re: Angra not Prog
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
7) Hi Angelo
by "Kaisa Tanttu" <kmtanttu@solutions.fi>
8) Baseball season is almost here {NDTC}
by Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
9) RA Converter
by Stefan Eriksson <stefan.eriksson@mindless.com>
10) Universe and other 7 String Stories
by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
11) SAIF ATTAR..King of Bad Traders!!...someone find him and make him
by "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
12) Marillion, Megatron vs. Zartan
by "TSM" <tonimaki@dlc.fi>
13) Silent Man backing vocals? Who?
by "Mark Philpot" <griphiam@ccnet.com>
14) LTE live performance sought
by Richard <karies@wxs.nl>
15) Angra as metal?
by Nik Shah <nshah@vt.edu>
16) Re: LTE live performance sought
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
17) 12 DT boots available on eBay
by Jeff Perrot <jperrot@siue.edu>
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:37:55 -0500
From: Craig Griffith <tarkus@softhome.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: (no subject)
Message-ID: <36D02853.5388C8F6@softhome.net>
Joshua Rasiel wrote:
> her: I saw a dream theatre video 2 weeks ago, it was pretty nice.
> something with time?
> me: take the time?
> her: yep! that's the one, nice song, kinda long. guess they 'took the
> time'..LOL
There was a video for "Take The Time"? I thought there was only "Pull Me
Under" and "Another Day."
-- Craig Griffith: High school student, guitar player, King of Craigland http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/8509/ "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" -Ian Anderson------------------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:50:08 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: (no subject) Message-ID: <36D03940.7C53DD25@caribe.net>
Craig Griffith wrote:
> > There was a video for "Take The Time"? I thought there was only "Pull Me > Under" and "Another Day."
Yes, its on the same video ( Live in Tokyo ) as the videos for PMU and AD are. -- Carlos A. Alfaro SysAdmin.: Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:calfaro@yunque.net / mailto:calfaro@caribe.net (ICQ)1254229
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:12:25 -0500 From: Gary Davis <artshop@artist-shop.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Jordan Rudess chat Message-ID: <2.2.32.19990221161225.009a15cc@artist-shop.com>
Hi, folks:
Just a last minute reminder that The Artist Shop is hosting an IRC chat with Jordan Rudess today (Sunday) at 3:00 pm eastern time/12 noon pacific. For those of you in Europe, this will be around 8:00 or 9:00 in the evening, so I hope you'll join in the fun as well. All details for joining the chat can be found at <http://www.artist-shop.com/irc>. Don't wait till the last minute to figure it out!
Gary
************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop@artist-shop.com phone: 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 SUPPORT THE INDEPENDENT ARTIST!!! ************************************************************** Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:23:17 -0500 From: Jeff <jhafer@loudoun.com> To: fates@listservant.com Cc: Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: CD Now specials... Message-ID: <36D032F5.4BEA78A5@loudoun.com>
Michael Kizer wrote:
> -- Mail from PARALLELS, the Fates Warning Internet Mailing List -- > > Also, CD NOW is having a cool sale right now... all imports are 30% off, plus > you can get a $10 discount by clicking through my website... so grab those hard > to get (ie, $$$) imports! hehe
Cool deal... I just ordered 2 more Symphony X CDs (of course imports) for $27. Can't beat that with a stick (it says so on the labels.. no stick beating).
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:25:44 -0600 (CST) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Ignorance is bliss...get ready for Hell Message-ID: <199922111617141@ix.netcom.com>
<<Ummm....son, what have you been smoking?! Listen everyone's fingers are wired a different way. That is why every guitar player sounds a bit different from the rest. You could have the exact setup as Vai or Satch and you would still sound like you do now. It's all about how your fingers and the strings connect. Yes, effects do alter the sound but the core tone will ALWAYS stay the same!!!>>
Ive always heard that the player's fingers have the most impact on his sound, but Ive never quite understood how. I know its a big factor, but how does it relate to the tone? do certain fingers have more midrange or bass or treble? Or is it in the tone of how a player phrases a lick or whatnot? Like, is the tonal reference in actual tone frequencies (bass, mids, treb) or in feel, phrasing, vibrato and such?
Matt
===================================================== "A daily dose of eMpTyV "Following our instinct will flush your mind not a trend. Go against right down the drain." the grain until the end." -Dream Theater -Metallica =====================================================
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:43:51 -0600 (CST) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Angra not Prog Message-ID: <19992211124416334@ix.netcom.com>
<<In my opinion, to sound prog, you need a keyboard player>>
Id like to point out that for a LONG time Fates Warning did not have a keyboardist, in fact, if Im not mistaken, APSoG was the first album with a keyboardist. Also, early Rush didnt have keys, and when they were used, it wasnt to the point where you could call Geddy Lee the "keyboardist" because they weren't used all that much.
Matt
===================================================== "A daily dose of eMpTyV "Following our instinct will flush your mind not a trend. Go against right down the drain." the grain until the end." -Dream Theater -Metallica =====================================================
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:44:34 +0100 From: "Kaisa Tanttu" <kmtanttu@solutions.fi> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Hi Angelo Message-ID: <199902211649.SAA03551@smtp.solutions.fi>
You wrote that you could sound like Steve or Satch just with using those massive efects and pedals... I don't wanna doubt your abilities but i would be very interested to see you playing "For the love of god" or "Crying" (for example) the way that Steve and Joe play those.
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:01:20 -0500 From: Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Baseball season is almost here {NDTC} Message-ID: <36D03BE0.6E2A4EAE@frontierlogic.com>
Hey Everyone,
You could probably skip this if you aren't a baseball fan. I'm sure those of you that would be interested in this have already played roto-ball, so an introduction wont be totally necessary.
I've set up a private league on commissioner.com (cbs sportsline's site) for this years baseball season. I'm hoping that the league will be predominantly jammers, although if we have trouble filling all ten slots -- I would be glad to open the league to others.
I know there's a bunch of folks here that either subscribe to sandbox or espn. I hope everyone understands that I'm not trying to upstage anyone. I simply feel that commissioner.com has the most to offer (live drafts, real-time stats, good servers and lots of cool amenities for the user).
D-Man and I are going to be involved with this league, so we have 8 more spots left. We're both looking to make sure that whoever gets involved, wants to really get involved and have fun. No one likes a dead beat in a roto-league. So if anyone is interested in joining the league, please email me at fmb@frontierlogic.com. I'll give you the league password and name.
-MojoMan
/\ /\ \_\/_/ . / _ _ \ . |\ |(*)(*)| /| #-----------------OOO---oo---OOO------------# # Frank Benenati - fmb@frontierlogic.com # # "Some of the nicest people are dogs" # # - Richard Dean Anderson # #__________________________ooo______________# ooo (_) (_)
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:08:23 +0100 From: Stefan Eriksson <stefan.eriksson@mindless.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: RA Converter Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990221130823.00793880@m1.174.telia.com>
Hi there!
Aren't many of you interested in things like this? Just thought I'd let you know...
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http://filedudes.ionsys.com/win95/mencode/files/ra2wav.exe http://www.2bsys.com/products.htm
You can grab a WAV to RealAudio converter straight off of Real's website. But what if you need to get a RA file back into WAV format? It's nearly impossible... without using this tool. This version also supports batch conversion and varying sampling rates. You can use a fully functional version for 15 days; audio fanatics should register it immediately. While you're downloading RA2WAV, be sure to check out their MagicSpell utility (a killer ICQ add-on) as well as X-FileGet (for downloading streamed RealAudio files).
take care
Stefan ______________________________________________
Stefan Eriksson
e-mail: stefan.eriksson@mindless.com
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." -Frank Zappa
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:35:22 -0600 (CST) From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Universe and other 7 String Stories Message-ID: <199902211735.LAA29671@adam.enteract.com>
> From: 7th String Man <memkilun@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: NEED HELP QUICK PRICING AN IBANEZ!
> First of all, there is no ibanez 7 string based on the S series. The only > 7th string guitars Ibanez makes are RG's, Universes, and those jazz guitars,
Bzzzt. :) S series, RG, UV, archtop, and an acoustic, let alone the prototypes they have out there...
> Even custom ordered 7's can't be S series because of it's properties.
Bzzzt. Custom 7 strings can't be S series because Ibanez will NOT make most of its old guitars. For the same reason, you can't order the old USA Custom with the graphic of the car driving down the road, etc. You can't get a custom Universe that isn't the exact same as the new black one or the black and green one (meaning, it's not custom) unless you're endorsed AND they like you a lot (Fear Factory, JP, etc).
> Second, used guitars are very risky to buy (I assume this is a used 7 > string since you can't get a new Ibanez 7 for under $1000).
Bzzzt. Used guitars are where you'll get your best deal. If you are able to look at the neck closely, and check for cracks, examine the body for damage and make sure the pickups work, you run no risks. Most guitars are simple big pieces of wood with a little bit of metal and some very simple circuits that you or any repairman can fix easily. The most important thing to look at is the neck. If there's no damage and it doesn't fret out anywhere, the guitar is generally a safe buy. Even with some fretting out, if you can do a truss rod adjustment and clear that up, you've still got a winner.
> If it's a universe, that price is impossible, since they go for over > $2,000 new. I'd say you have to go over there and take a good look at > the guitar before you even start thinking about the price.
I got one of the more rare UV's (The UV7PW... the white one like on the inside of Passion and Warefare, with a pre-LOW PRO trem, and serial 000121) for $1000 cash, used, in absolute mint condition. The S series I believe are a touch MORE rare (being surpassed only by the MC swirl and the prototypes which come in a million different visual designs on the same body, with or without the monkey grip) than the standard UV7PW. They are sought after by 7 stringers, though they're considered by some to be a step below the UV (this is what I read on a collector's page a while back... and it's probably because the guy running it was a Steve Vai freak). You can get a black and green UV NEW for $1300. You can get a black and chrome UV new for $1500. Used UV's should almost NEVER go for more than $1200, even in mint, unless it has some rare properties. The black and greens are the cheapest (not in quality) because they made the most of them. Never pay more than $1000 used for one. The S series is a bit of an enigma. I would probably try to pay $1000 for it, unless I thought I could get away with paying less. I think I'd cap off around $1200, and to get me to move above the $1000 mark would take a crowbar and some WD40.
> >From: "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> > >Subject: NEED HELP QUICK PRICING AN IBANEZ!!
> >Ok , im being offered an ibanez 7 string based on the S series...its on > >very good condition (so the guy in the store says, i havent seen it) hes > >offering it for around 800$..but i could get him down to around 650$ he > >says its around '92
You should either buy it, or forward me his e-mail address and I'll buy it instantly. That's better than the best deal you're ever going to find for an Ibanez 7 string from that era (before they went to complete shit... which they are recovering from now) You need to go examine the guitar VERY closely. If it's in a store, chances are the guy knows what it's worth. Make sure everything works, and then play every string at every fret, and bend a note on each one, to see how level the guitar is. But in general, even a banged up 7 string that's not an RG is worth more than that.
All the info you could need about the various 7 strings that are available can be found at http://www.jemsite.com/ though there used to be a great 7 string site devoted solely to Ibanez 7 strings... I think it was run by Ken Burtch. Haven't been able to find it (it's not his personal site at Kenburtch.com). Still, go get em'!
And no, I'm not a Bad Religion fan... I just needed an appropriate punishment, and that's what came to mind, Punkass. :)
Chris Ptacek - someone@prognosis.com "Everything that can be invented has been invented." -- Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899.
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:50:03 -0500 From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: SAIF ATTAR..King of Bad Traders!!...someone find him and make him Message-ID: <36D0474A.A3A6914C@earthlink.net>
I want this guy chopped into little pieces and stuffed in jewel cases.
---------------------------------------------- Saif Attar (mephisto@index.com.jo) P.O.Box 595 Amman 11947 JORDAN
**Sent him 4 cd's to trade in early January '98. Once he acknowledged he got mine I never heard from him again, never answered his e-mail. After repeated e-mails to a friend of his, he responded (through his friend's account) saying he sent mine, that his account was disabled, and to stop bothering him (fuckin' little prick!) He's ripped off a bunch of other ppl in January '98 (just check Dejanews.com) so steer clear of this waste of human life.
If anyone knows any good revenge tactics please let me know. I've gotten ripped off before but its usually been too small a matter to get this upset over BUT this asswipe deserves whats coming to him. He's #1 on my hitlist and I'll be damned if I'm just gonna let it drop (like I usually do).
any discreet assasination info is appreciated,
Carlo (Fates)
NP: DISSECTION "Storm of the Light's Bane" (yeah!!!..diediedie)
-- "When you know that your time is close at hand maybe then you'll begin to understand Life down here is just a strange illusion."
--IRON MAIDEN (Hallowed Be Thy Name)
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:11:05 +0200 From: "TSM" <tonimaki@dlc.fi> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Marillion, Megatron vs. Zartan Message-ID: <199902211801.UAA20415@laatikko.saunalahti.fi>
Still no DTC in my post...
Partha Mukhopadhyay wrote: >got my first Fish era marillion disc, script for a jester's tear, and >now i want more....and i am thinking, just by this one disc, in >comparison to the steve hogarth era Afraid of sunlight, that if ever i >were to become a freak, i would definitely throw my hat in the Fish >camp.....
I suggest that you check out Misplaced Childhood, which is better than Script For a Jester's Tear. On SFAJT there are songs I'm not so fond of but Misplaced Childhood hasn't got any weak spots. I also have heard a couple of songs from Fugazi but I'm not sure if I like it. Sounds like a bit too 80s to me but I guess that I should give it a thorough listening before giving any recommendations. Speaking of Hogarth era Marillion, I own a single called Beautiful. Even if the songs are very different compared to the stuff they did with Fish I like it a lot. Could someone tell me that on which album/albums I can find the songs Beautiful, Live Forever, Great Escape and Hard as Love?
Joshua Rasiel wrote: >Zartan was a cunning, and >very skillful, skillfull ninja. He killed the old master, he killed the >blind master, he's taken on hordes of red ninjas. He can alter space to >screw w/ his opponents. He's cunning. And what killed Megatron in the >end? Cunning. Shockwave got him to kill himself. Zartan could definitely >do the same.
Phaugh! Anyone could have killed that old fart with the bow Zartan used and blind master was a fool, a fool I tells ya. He should have known Zartan had a swithblade. Idiot. Red ninjas were nothing more than cannon fodder and nobody really believes that "he can alter space to screw w/ his opponents" stuff. It's so unrealistic, things like that don't really happen. So how could Megatron get killed by somebody who doesn't even exist?! ..Methinks this conversation might be going a bit too far...
NP: WDADU
------------ tonimaki@dlc.fi --------------- | There are three kinds of people; | | Those who can count and those who can't. | --------------------------------------------
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:09:17 -0800 From: "Mark Philpot" <griphiam@ccnet.com> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Silent Man backing vocals? Who? Message-ID: <000001be5dc5$4c115f60$3965f7cc@markphil>
Jam,
Ok, this has been bugging me for awhile now... WHO does the backing vocals on Silent Man?
Listening to dead air for radios, it almost sounds like KM, but I can't really tell... I honestly don't think its KJLB, but I might be wrong... Can anyone help straighten this out?
Thanks
Mark
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:18:39 +0100 From: Richard <karies@wxs.nl> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: LTE live performance sought Message-ID: <36D04DFF.5FEE@wxs.nl>
Hi there,
Could someone who feels a shred of pity for someone devoid of a CD with live LTE please contact me? I understand that a couple of good shows are available on CDR... Also, around April 1998 DT played a 'dream gig' where they did a lot of cover bits (including "One" and "Killers"). Which date was that, which venue, and has it been released on any bootlegs or CDRs? Please help me. I feel musically destitute. -- \= Richard Karsmakers - richard@fortysecond.net - ICQ #18645533 =/ | "ST NEWS" disk mag; "W3M3" magazine; "Twilight World" magazine | |Disk Magazine WebRing; Shred Guitar WebRing; Atari Scene Reunion| | Plantiac Adoration Shrine; GWAR FAQ; Fear of God home page | | http://www.fortysecond.net | /===--- P.O. Box 67, NL-3500 AB, Utrecht - The Netherlands ---===\
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:16:24 -0500 From: Nik Shah <nshah@vt.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Angra as metal? Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990221141624.0079b320@mail.vt.edu>
I would have to disagree with anyone who classifies Angra as metal. Listen to songs such as Lisbon, Make Believe... very soft, poetic songs. A metal band would be a band such as Pantera, Slayer, etc. Very loud, very unmelodic, and absolutely nothing that anyone could, by any stretch of the imagination, classify as ballad-like. If you don't think Angra is prog, then they must be hard rock, but not heavy metal.
- Nik
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:36:48 -0600 From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: LTE live performance sought Message-ID: <2.2.32.19990221193648.006f6284@pi-r-squared.com>
At 10:45 AM 2/21/99 -0800, you wrote: > >Hi there, > > Could someone who feels a shred of pity for someone devoid of a CD with >live LTE please contact me? I understand that a couple of good shows are >available on CDR...
If you don't mind taking the time to download them (I'm on ethernet so it's no problem for me) you can get them off Bogie's site at http://dreamtheater.mit.edu/ you'll need to register for a password, but it's a great site and well worth it.
Palpatine Co Founder of Pi-R-Squared productions: www.pi-r-squared.com "Thank God I'm an aetheist" -Luis Bunel "What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New Hope "Perhaps god gave the answers to those with nothing to say"- Savatage: Somewhere in time
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:00:08 -0600 From: Jeff Perrot <jperrot@siue.edu> To: Ytsejammers <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: 12 DT boots available on eBay Message-ID: <36D065C8.1D4C998F@siue.edu>
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Thanks for looking! Jeff P.
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