YTSEJAM Digest 4694
Today's Topics:
1) re: bands
by "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com>
2) re: yes and marillion
by "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com>
3) Stump the Jam
by "Christopher W. Ptacek" <someone@prognosis.com>
4) Re: Pain of Salvation
by TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu>
5) New full DT shows available in mp3!
by Adam Pye <alpine1@mindspring.com>
6) Fear Factory
by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
7) LtL Live
by szebro1@gl.umbc.edu
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4693
by "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk>
9) Re: bands and their lastingness
by "Adriano/Luisa Giacomini" <algiacomini@sti.com.br>
10) Re: Vai's 10 hour work out
by Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
11) Re: bands and their longevity
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
12) Jemsite
by Bobby Tufino <slimegod@deskmail.com>
13) LTE...
by "Emerson, Michael J." <memerson@mail.PWCG.com>
14) Empty Tremor on DT tribute CD !
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
15) stump the jam.. name that tune response
by "Jeremy Kube" <inflmmbl@tiac.net>
16) Yahoo! ...You Need to be Listed!!
by petercobalt99@mymail.com
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:47:08 PST
From: "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: re: bands
Message-ID: <19990223154708.4170.qmail@hotmail.com>
how bout U2.. they're still pumpin out the hits..
i personally am not too fond of the music they're doing nowadays but you
can't discount their contribution to music and pop culture...one of the
biggest bands of all time.. U2's gonna be around for while :)
>You guys forgot Kiss... they've been strong persistently
>since the 70s :)
>
>-The Doc
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:00:59 PST
From: "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: re: yes and marillion
Message-ID: <19990223160059.19972.qmail@hotmail.com>
>Hello Jammers !
>I'd like to purchase some Yes and Marillion albums, 'cause
>I don't have any of them and I think they are indispensable
>for anyone who wants to have a good prog culture... What
>albums would you suggest to buy first ? In my local CD store
>I found the Yes album "Tormato" and the Marillion's "Read to
>Reed" or something like this (Sorry for the errors in the
>titles but I just don't remember them correctly) and "La
>Gazza Ladra"... What aboutthem ? Are they worth buying
>?Thanx in advance I'd prefer personal replies, 'cause I
>don't always have the time to read theJam and in order not
>to waste bandwidth.ThanxMarco
as far as Yes goes.. you gotta buy Close To The Edge, Relayer, Fragile,
or The Yes Album.. any one of those is good to start with..
i'm not too familiar with marillion personally so i can't help you
there.
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:06:28 -0600
From: "Christopher W. Ptacek" <someone@prognosis.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Stump the Jam
Message-ID: <000901be5f46$79abbc40$f289fea9@z979811wheat.farm.niu.edu>
The first one is anyone's guess.
The second one is too vague to know for sure, but damn if you didn't just
perfectly describe Aquarium Rescue Unit. Jeff Sipe on drums (SICK), Jimmy
Herring on guitars (SICK) and O'Teil Burbridge on bass (SICK!) with a great
vocalist, and some organs, wind instruments, mandolins, and percussion etc.
All of their albums are good, but In a Perfect World is their best (with
their best singer) and the live album is the second best (Fear Col. Bruce
Hampton though... what a wretched voice!)
- Chris
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:35:28 -0500 (EST)
From: TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Pain of Salvation
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990223113140.9186B-100000@hubcap.clemson.edu>
> From: Vincent LuPone <vgl@syspac.com>
> Subject: Re: Pain of Salvation
>
> Well, in his defense, I must say I've been quite nuts about this band Fear
> Factory for quite awhile, but I waited until I got the new album "Obsolete"
> before I decided to rave about these badasses on the jam. This album is
> the best thrash/death/speed/bluegrass album for me since Rust in Peace.
> And it's actually melodic too. Pain of Salvation rocks ass as well, btw.
just wanted to add my "fuck yeah" :)
> I've never heard a death metal band write a song that could make a grown
> man cry, but "Timelessness" is just pure emotion. The whole album is a
aye, resurection and timelessness are a kickass way to end the cd, which i
believe is aconcept album, yes? a story about some kind of future where
machines have taken over, and the humans are fighting back... i haven't
read all the lyrics but that's what i've gleamed from listening.
> HUGE step forward from Demanufacture, which is still a pretty badass CD in
> itself. Some parts of the album even lean to the mildly progressive side
yeah, even after i had Obsolete for a while I still liked demanufacture
more, cuz it has all the wicked fast double bass and stuff, but once i got
past that (and realized that it sorta makes all of demanufacture sound the
same - slightly), i realized just how much Obsolete kicks ass. moo.
--"You are what you eat, you fucking cannibal!" -- KorgX3
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:46:26 -0500 From: Adam Pye <alpine1@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: New full DT shows available in mp3! Message-ID: <4.2.0.24.19990223113611.00aec270@pop.mindspring.com>
Hey folks...
New, full shows available in mp3 format. It's the 6/9/95 show from Birch Hill in New Jersey. It features the (in)famous "Mercy Fuck" version of A Change of Seasons. Also included is an early instrumental version of Raise the Knife (originally named Showdown). Other highlights include a strong "Lines in the Sand" influence to Derek's keys solo and "Eruption" by Van Halen played in that same solo.
The best place to get this show is on Bogie's Lines in the Sand site. (http://dreamtheater.mit.edu) You can also grab this on my website (URL in the signature) in case you have a problem at LITS. Bogie has also added the full The Dance of Eternity boot (including the original ACOS) and we'll be getting new shows up periodically. These are great shows to add to any collection, so get on one of those sites and start leeching! :)
NOTE: My email address is changing to alpine1@mindspring.com. If anyone needs to get in touch with me from now on, please use that address. My web address has also been updated accordingly. Thanks!
Take care all...
-Please Notice New Email Address!- __________________________________________________ Adam Pye (Alpine) alpine1(-at-)mindspring.com ICQ: 9382967 http://www.mindspring.com/~alpine1 ^^ Above URL for MP3 of the Week and Tapelist w/ Setlists __________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:47:50 -0800 From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Fear Factory Message-ID: <012701be5f4c$415cb320$87add6d0@multimedia>
> Well, in his defense, I must say I've been quite nuts about this band Fear >Factory for quite awhile.
yeah, man! Sounding like a broken record here. Ya gotta check them out live too and that will make you even more nuts. :) I have the 'Resurrection' video at my site if you wanna check it out. Dave McKean also helped out in putting that together as well as the CD cover art.
peace, --james-- www.jamesthorpe.com mail@jamesthorpe.com
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:00:52 -0500 (EST) From: szebro1@gl.umbc.edu To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: LtL Live Message-ID: <199902231700.MAA1568356@gl.umbc.edu>
> figure they played it on that show. In fact, I was just watching that video, > and you know when the audience sings harmony at the end of Learning to Live? > Well if I remember correctly, Mike Portnoy told the AOL message boards that > was the first time a crowd had done that. And with that in mind, I watched > James mention something to John P. and thot I bet he's commenting on the > audience singing, and John seems to urge James, and he picks up his mic and > points it out at the crowd to take advantage of the situation.
Hmm. Mike may have only noticed that time, but I know that there was at least one more. Does anyone remember being at the Summer 1993 (I believe the date was June 23) show at the Pier 6 concert Pavilion in Baltimore MD? As they played the end of Learning to Live, the whole audience was singing the "oh"s at the end of the song, and there was James pointing the mic out at the crowd. I remember it vividly. Does anyone else?
The audience singing that part on the live album sounds so cool I wish the band would have played that progression a few more times before going into ACoS. The fadeout on that song is so good. A few more times might have captured the spirit a little more.
Steve Z
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:34:27 GMT From: "Simon John Dodd" <S.J.Dodd1@student.derby.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4693 Message-ID: <5745D103E@sdk1.derby.ac.uk>
I can't be bothered to quote it, but Chris Bernard shot someone down for suggesting that Metallica were a 90s band by saying that they started in the 80s. He then proceeded to explain how the 80s were good for music, and listed Rush as an example. Ummm..... WTF?
Si
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:49:26 -0300 From: "Adriano/Luisa Giacomini" <algiacomini@sti.com.br> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: bands and their lastingness Message-ID: <000b01be601e$08cb9e40$b54ee7c8@default>
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:48:45 +0100 From: Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Vai's 10 hour work out Message-ID: <36D2DBED.B2F282AF@stones.com>
<<<Also, years ago in Guitar World there was a Steve Vai <feature with his "10 hour guitar workout"...does anyone have that one? <I'd like to get a copy of that 10 hour routine, so if anyone can help me <out that would be great. Later.>> < <I too, am interested on where I could find this. please private mail if you have <any info on how I can get a hold of it. <Matt
I have it. It's in an 'instructional' book that Guitar World released. It features lessons from a dozen guitarplayers including Vai, Johnson, VanHalen, Hammet, Gibbons, Gilbert.. and the list goes on (no JP though). I'm willing to part with it for a small compensation cause I started playing 6string bass recently and I'm selling a ton of guitar TAB books. Anyone interested in official TAB books of Satch/Vai/VanHalen/Malmsteen/etc.? Email me and we'll work something out. I'm also willing to trade for some quality bass lessons (TAB/video).
Cheers,
Matej
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:19:48 -0800 From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: bands and their longevity Message-ID: <36D2FF54.BE0ACCD7@ucla.edu>
I just couldnt bear to type the word "lastingness". Anyway, I would not list 311 in an argument tryinmg to prove that the 90's were a good time for music. I don't think Nirvana belongs in there either. I'm sure there are many jammers who rejoices when Kurt Cobain died. I hopped on the bandwagon when Nirvana became the next big thing, and bought a tape of "Nevermind" (no CD player for me back then). I hated it so much, I never listened to the rest of side 2 of the tape. True, I occasionally like to hear "Smells Like Teen Spirit" or one of their other popular songs, just for kicks, but after being in Guitar Denter so much and having to listen to every single 12 year old wannabe guitarist on the planet pick up a sweet guitar and play "Polly", it gets old. Im glad someone mentioned Depeche Mode. It's hard telling people that your other favorite band (besides DT) is Depeche Mode. They've been around for close to 20 years now, and better than ever. I saw them over Christmas, and it was one of the most amazing experiences of my life. It was so great that I was crying tears of joy by the end of the show, as was the person I went with. Hope DT are still going strong like this in 10 years. Anyway, just my opinion.
~~Amanda
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:19:08 -0500 From: Bobby Tufino <slimegod@deskmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Jemsite Message-ID: <36D30D3C.3571600@deskmail.com>
I just want to thank whatever jammer it was that mentioned www.jemsite.com recently. I checked it out and although it has sucked up a lot of my time since then, it kicks major ass. Any Ibanez JEM or Universe owner that loves their guitar and hasn't checked it out yet...do so. It rules.
Bobby
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:39:52 -0500 From: "Emerson, Michael J." <memerson@mail.PWCG.com> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: LTE... Message-ID: <BDBBCD37EA65D1119E9600A0C9982D75CDEBC0@PW03>
greetings, all!
i don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet, but if you're interested in LTE, check out this site:
http://www.mediusvision.com/lte/
it's called the 'LTE Home Page', and it's run by a guy that works with LTE and DT...
there's some neat stuff there, including pictures that were taken at the LTE recording sessions as well as pictures that were taken at the NY show and the Philly show...
later!
mikE
p.s.: the pics from the Philly show were taken by ***shameless plug*** ME! (and if you're wondering how that came about, i put the story up on my home page (http://www2.cybernex.net/~cthulhu), so check it out!) -- m. ____________________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:07:22 -0800 From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de> To: ytsejam@axnet.net, empty_tremor@egroups.com Subject: Empty Tremor on DT tribute CD ! Message-ID: <36D3971A.3C92@fh-niederrhein.de>
hi everyone
I've some cool news for you :
Empty Tremor will record a "Dream Theater medley" for the forthcoming Dream Theater Tribute CD !
The 12 min long medley will contain :
- Take The Time - Under A Glass Moon - A Change Of Seasons - Learning To Live
I tell you what, it's gonna be a kick ass medley.
There are some other great bands performing on the DT tribute CD like Aztec Jade (Another Day) & Jag Panzer to name a few. The album is set to be out at the end of March by Energie Records in Italy.
Check out the Official Empty Tremor Fan Club Site for more info.
p.s. Don't forget to subscribe to the brand new Empty Tremor mailing list. SEND A MESSAGE TO : empty_tremor-subscribe@egroups.com
NP: Empty Tremor - The Timeless Night <--Just download the sample
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:18:03 -0500 From: "Jeremy Kube" <inflmmbl@tiac.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: stump the jam.. name that tune response Message-ID: <000501be5f72$01c2b2c0$a4723dd1@inflmmbl.tiac.net>
Okay.. here is my guess.. Song #1 is by Orgy... ? Song #2 is by Jonnie Lang? Jeremy Kube inflmmbl@tiac.net kube@nh.ultranet.com inflammabl@aol.com "This Job would rule if it weren't for the f*$king customers!" Randall in "Clerks" "If I had breasts, I would never leave the house, ever." John Perreault
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