YTSEJAM Digest 4701
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Fear of the Hand of Ptacek smiting my breasts.
by "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
2) Hi!
by cmartin@blueridge.net (Chris & Shelly Martin)
3) re: Portnoy's Drumkit
by "xxx" <hipodilski@usa.net>
4) Limited time offer: Test your PC for Y2K Compliance...FREE! -ADV
by ytsejam-manager@axnet.net
5) prejudicial road rage
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
6) More info on DT tribute CD
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4698
by DTheater99@aol.com
8) I wanna fuck you like a ytsejammer
by "Larry" <ldo@uswest.net>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4700
by DTheater99@aol.com
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4700
by DTheater99@aol.com
11) Didst I spouteth nonsense? Nay! I doth have words for thee!
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
12) nine inch n. (find the Dream T. content for me)
by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee>
13) Re: More info on DT tribute CD
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
14) more info on DT "tribute" cd
by Bungle <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu>
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 23:52:58 -0600
From: "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Fear of the Hand of Ptacek smiting my breasts.
Message-ID: <iss.69d3.36d4e538.9b383.1@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
A quick addendum:
> Hehehe. "Brian" <= "scrambled brain." You fight logic with nonsense.
> Your inflated head bears no resemblance to Rossane's fat, bloated ass,
> but I do believe a few comparisons can be drawn between the two. It's
> sad that if you opened your mind for a moment, you'd drown in your own
> fecies.
Just wanted to point out that if anyone is going to be accused of slinging
"nonsense" around, talking about "Rossane's fat, bloated ass" and the
subsequent empty rhetoric must obviously qualify.
-Brian
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 01:04:44 -0400
From: cmartin@blueridge.net (Chris & Shelly Martin)
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Hi!
Message-ID: <v01530500b2fa5faba590@[205.152.121.61]>
First off, I'm new to the list. I'm Chris and have been a DT fan since
WDADU came out. I've been converting others to them for almost as long. :
) I've known about this list for several years, but just recently got a
computer so I'm finally able to talk to other DT fans. I'm 27, a
guitarist, and listen to a wide variety of music. I realize most of this
stuff is unimportant to the list, but I'm getting to that. I just like to
let people know a little about me, I guess. I finally bought a copy of
OIALT, and loved it. I just orderd FII, so I can't wait to hear it. I've
been out of the loop for a while, but now that I have Internet access, I'll
know what's going on!! I've noticed some arguments about "who's better
than who" about present and past members of DT. IMHO, who cares who's in
the band, as long as they continue to release the caliber of music they
have become known for. With my experience with playing in bands, change
can usually be good. BTW, I'm not trying to get any thread about this
topic started, I just know that from another list I was on years ago, there
was a very similar debate (it was a KISS list.) I just know that those
kind of threads get no where. Opinions are like assholes. Everyone's got
one and thinks everyone else's stinks!! : ) Anyway, I just love their
music, and as long as they don't suck, I'll still buy them. That's all for
now. I'm sure I'll throw in my 2 cents every-once-in-a-while! : )
Chris Martin
Oh yeah, since everyone was talking about the new music they had bought,
along with the above CD's, I recently got Rush- "Different Stages" (the '78
disc was worth the price IMHO), Pantera- "101 Proof Official Live" (fucking
awesome, as usual), KISS "Creatures of the Night" remastered and Ace
Frehley's "Loaded Deck" (I'm a huge KISS fan, so of course I loved these
CD's). The only "new" CD I've heard was the Goo Goo Dolls "A Boy Named Goo"
(my wife bought it.) It was O.K., but it sounded a lot like White Lion!!
Also ordered LATM and Zappa's "200 Motels"! (Gotta love Worker's Comp!!!)
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:15:26 +0200
From: "xxx" <hipodilski@usa.net>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: re: Portnoy's Drumkit
Message-ID: <01be6086$3c990ce0$190024d4@poebko>
Hi all,
Our beloved Mike's new LTE drumkit features 1 bass drum (with double pedal
of course), his old LP timbalitos as first and second toms, a 13" tom, 16"
floor tom and a 14" tom on his left side. All the drums are from his old
Tama Imperialstar setup with the DT logo finish. Also there are LP "Jam
block" and "Blast block" on the pictures of the LTE shows, but I haven't
heard a sound from them on the LTA show (thanx, Bogie). The second
interesting thing is his front bass drum head, which is an "Aquarian". I
thought Mike uses only Remo and has an endorsement...
At least this is what I can see on the pics...
Vic from Bulgaria
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 07:17:55 +0100
From: ytsejam-manager@axnet.net
To: officer99@usa.net
Subject: Limited time offer: Test your PC for Y2K Compliance...FREE! -ADV
Message-ID: <199902250617.HAA13623@www.vrn.de>
TheDotComCorp is providing FreeY2kbugtest software ($49.95 Value) to check
your PC as a proactive contribution toward a societal problem that effects
65,000,000 computers in the US alone. Please test your computer for
compliance and do your part by passing this email to friends at work or
home.
Get your free copy right NOW! 4ways to contact us to get your
freey2kbugtest:
1. Click on this link mailto:freey2kbugtest@usa.net and type the word YES in
the subject line, hit send and that's it! You will NOT recieve anything if
you do not have "YES" in the subject line of this email message.
2. Call us during normal business hours: 1-404-367-9245 9-5Est
3. Call our 24hr voice mail 1-800-600-0343x1505-(5sec message which prompts
you to simply leave your email address)
4. Visit http://www.freey2kbugtest.com (coming soon-keep checking!)
($49.95 Value Free)
Special #: AM23
*your software application or a link to download will be shipped via email
in 48-72hrs
(*by replying to this message, visiting thedotcomcorp website, or leaving
your information on thedotcomcorp voicemail for the purpose of obtaining
more information I have chosen to allow DotComCorp to send me information
via regular email protocol (smtp))
"Some personal computers are still being shipped with the incorrect bios
(software built into a computer where system date information is stored). It
is estimated that 47% of all 1997 PCs and as many as 79% of PCs built prior
to 1997 will fail the 2000 compliance test. Compaq was shipping computers
with non-Year 2000 compliant bios up until the first quarter of 1997. Most
older generation mini and mainframe systems were designed with the
space-saving two-digit date field and should be upgraded or replaced. You
can check all your PC's with the FreeY2kBugtest."
PLUS MORE!
Just launched brand NEW Sitemax Premiere webhosting package. Enroll today
and get on the web tomorrow
FASTER, CHEAPER, EASIER WEBHOSTING IS NOW HERE!
Get your own dot com OR transfer your dot com today. Same day account
activation.
3ways to contact us:
1. Simply click on this link, mailto:freey2kbugtest@usa.net and put the word
"hosting" in the subject line.You will NOT recieve additional information if
you do not have the word "hosting" in the subject of your email message
reply. Please include your name and telephone number if you would like a
representative to contact you.
2. Call during normal business hours: 1-404-367-9245 9-5EST
2. Call the 24hr voice mail 1-800-600-0343-mention "hosting product"
3. Visit http://www.thedotcomcorp.com (coming soon-keep checking!)
Mention HOSTING special, #AM23
(*by replying to this message, visiting thedotcomcorp webiste, or leaving
your information on thedotcomcorp voicemail for the purpose of obtaining
more information I have chosen to allow DotComCorp to send me information
via regular email protocol (smtp))
If you are thinking or have thought about putting a business/personal
website on the internet and thought it was to expensive, look no further for
the MOST COMPLETE web hosting package
*Largest coast to coast network-150T3's ,
Would you be interested in saving hundreds of $$$$'s?
You get all this below and more.
Free Search Engine Submission to big boys ($150 value!)
Free Pre-Configured -message board - guest book
Includes Microsoft Front Page Support
Includes 24 hours 7 days a week FTP (uploading and downloading pictures and
text)
Includes full CGI Bin to create and copy your own forms
Includes 50 megs of space on the LARGEST coast to coast connection
equivalent to150 t-3's
Includes "Web Coach" your one stop HELP file.
FREE BONUS!! *Sign up today and you will have unlimited access to our
website PowerPromotion searchengine submission page! ($150 value absolutely
FREE).
this is a 5 day limited time offer.
*We specialize in ecommerce solutions and website design.
Thankyou for your time,
TheDotComCorp
TO BE REMOVED:
Simply click on this link
mailto:freey2kbugtest@usa.net , type "remove" in the subject, and press
send.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------
This message is a 'one-time' mailing. Once you have recieved this message
you will no
longer receive future messages from us. For this reason there is no need to
'unsubscribe'.
If this message does not interest you, please pardon our intrusion.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 22:36:11 PST
From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: prejudicial road rage
Message-ID: <19990225063612.24489.qmail@hotmail.com>
> If you go to the Museum of Tolerance here in SoCal, there are two
>doors: one labeled "not prejudiced", and labeled "prejudiced".. the
>first one doesn't open up, to demonstrate that we are all prejudiced.
man, that sounds like the kind of place I'd like to work, if ever i
decided to become a tour guide......
you'll be amazed, though, how many people protest when you try to
express that sentiment whether in person or in print.....i've tried
both, and it wasn't too pretty, the way people tried to proclaim their
absolute even-mindedness, bringing up "facts" like "I have so many
(insert different race here) friends."
Music is certainly no different -- i'm sure some of you have come across
people who claim tolerance of "black" music through listening to Living
Colour, or Prince. What the museum's doors, and what Amanda said are
totally correct -- we all have a set of prejudices absolutely coloring
how we look at everything, including how we feel about what is "popular"
or "mainstream".
And too often, we find it all too easy to dismiss that which we don't
like, without "fair" consideration of its merits. The mass denials of
such prejudices, followed immediately by general dismissals of entire
genres is probably the single most aggravating thing about the people
and posts made to this here forum.........
partha
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:30:47 -0800
From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: More info on DT tribute CD
Message-ID: <36D57AB7.1004@fh-niederrhein.de>
Hi eveyone,
Here are some more info about the Dream Theater tribure CD by Energie records.
I don't really care if you belive me or not, but all thses are facts:
Months ago, I've got an email from a guy at Energie records.
He told me that, they plan to release a couple of tribute CD's like U2, Queen,
Metallica and ... The guy said, that he's a die hard Dream Theater fan and
he would like to do also a Dream Theater tribute !
He was searching for quite unknown bands who were influenced by DT.
Through internet (searching for DT influened bands) , he comes to EMPTY TREMOR
and my email address and the rest is history.
Why these bands ? Well, because they aren't to expensive to pay !
Another idea is that the Tribute CD will be 2 CD set for a single CD price.
On Disc 2, each band will choose one of their own songs which is representative
for their style. Sure, this fact should also help each band growing their fan base.
Anyway for disc 1, so far we have :
EVIL WINGS (Italy) "A fortune in lies"
AZTEC JADE (USA) "Another day"
OVERLIFE (Spain) "Metropolis Part I"
ACCOMPLICE (USA) "Pull me under"
DRAMA (Norway) "Lifting shadows off a dream"
MOON OF STEEL (Italy) "You not me"
CMKY (Italy) "Surrounded"
EMPTY TREMOR (Italy) "Medley: Take the time/Under a glass moon/A change of season / Learning to live"
ELEVENTH HOUR (USA) "Learning to live
There is more to come ...
P.S. Soon or later, a bigger lable like Magna Carta or Metal Blade will release another
Dream Theater tribute. It's all about money, not ..
Now Playing : Spock's Beard - Day For A Night
Arash
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
| PROG OR DIE - The Progressive Music Page |
| |
| DREAM THEATER - FATES WARNING - ROYAL HUNT - SHADOW GALLERY |
| |
| http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1748/ |
|--------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| The Eyes Of Universe - The Official EMPTY TREMOR Fan Club Site |
| |
| http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1794/ |
| |
| by Arash and Arman Ashouriha email: ashouria@kr.fh-niederrhein.de |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:58:36 EST
From: DTheater99@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4698
Message-ID: <45aa75b7.36d502ac@aol.com>
I am still looking for the real version of To Live Forever. Anyone knows w=
here
I could find it?
sebast
Are you talking about the one on the "Lie" single?
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 00:59:28 -0700
From: "Larry" <ldo@uswest.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: I wanna fuck you like a ytsejammer
Message-ID: <00ad01be6095$a6fc51a0$04000005@lxodneahome>
In 4700 Brian Hayden wrote:
>The NIN line is one of direct rage, visceral hate, wanting to physically,
mentally,
>emotionally ravage the one who has hurt you.
'Scuse me . . . how the hell did you come up with that interpretation? Fuck
= hate?
"I wanna fuck you like an animal"
"I wanna feel you from the inside"
". . . You bring me closer to God"
Sounds like a LOVE song to me!
Sorry, Brian, but have you actually fucked anyone? Ever really get into it,
and feel like your whole reason for being is embodied in your dick? Ever
rock your baby like your back ain't got no bone? (Apologies to Bonnie
Raitt, John Lee Hooker, et al). Ever lose your self in the raw, animal lust
of hot, sweaty sex until you finally explode in orgasmic pleasure????
Me neither . . . ;^)
hehe - I just had to do that!
But seriously, I love those lyrics and fail to see where the "visceral hate"
comes in. I know "Fuck you" isn't exactly a term of endearment, but IMO "I
wanna fuck you like an animal" would be a compliment that a lot of women
would love to hear (in the right context, of course!)
Just my opinion; I could be wrong.
And now for something completely different . . . Has anyone heard the Doug
Pinnick solo album "Poundhound"?? Columbia House has it, and they're
running a "Buy 1, get 2 free" deal. I'll prolly get it anyway, but I just
wondered if any of you had heard it yet. Comments?
Thatsallfornow,
Larry
NP: King's X - "Tapehead" ****
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 03:07:32 EST
From: DTheater99@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4700
Message-ID: <408395f9.36d504c4@aol.com>
>to sum up KWS and johnny lang, and all the other BB King
>wannabe's I mearly quote George Carlin....White people have
>no business playing the blues...EVER!
Eric Clapton is ummmmm.......white......Allman Brothers....not totally blues,
but do it pretty well..........SRV........well..........is he white or am i
wrong........
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 03:09:50 EST
From: DTheater99@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4700
Message-ID: <f80bd60.36d5054e@aol.com>
Does anyone know what ever happened to a band called "The Quest?" There first
album was great. But since then havent heard a word.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:02:05 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Didst I spouteth nonsense? Nay! I doth have words for thee!
Message-ID: <004201be609d$8671f5e0$4a0d84d0@default>
>"nonsense" around, talking about "Rossane's fat, bloated ass" and the
>subsequent empty rhetoric must obviously qualify.
In retrospect, the charm of the whole proclamation was rather pointed. The
conclusion that I drew from the comparison between Rosanne's flatulant
buttocks and your cranial cavity was that both were extremely capable of
spouting excrement in extreme amounts. Hence, should you open up you mind,
you would drown in your own fecies... However, much of that was written in
simile and should not be taken literally. The mere imagery of the literal
translation does not bode well upon one's digestion. The reference by which
I'd stated your head spouts shit is what my English instructor would
pronounce as "verbiage," or verbal garbage.
At once you complain that the lyrics have no depth, then when offered an
example of how your selection of lyrical content which you are attacking ("I
want to fuck you like an animal") is completely inconclusive as to the
content of the song AND you were offered an example of how your evidence is
inconclusive, you assume the fetal position and refuse to comprehend how any
person supposedly lesser than youself can convey incredible meaning from the
text contained within said song. Therefore proving, at that juncture, due
to your complete hesitance to relent your previous attack, that you were
indeed only complaining of your own lack of perception with no particular
mindset to accept that it is a worthwhile complement to many an intelligent
person's daily musical diet.
The prosecution rests, Worm, Your Honor.
-- KorgX3, President of the United Stated of Carpal Tunnels.------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:24:56 +0200 From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee> To: Nothing To Say <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: nine inch n. (find the Dream T. content for me) Message-ID: <199902250924.LAA12027@xyz.estcard.ee>
]From: "Brian D. Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
> Marilyn Manson with slightly more shame and less marketing sense, as far > as I'm concerned. Deep lyrics? "I wanna fuck you like an animal" is right > on par with "rape me my friend."
You seem to know as much of Nine Inch Nails as of alchemy. You know they both exist and have read a couple of lines on both subjects. Damn, Reznor has released under the name of Nine Inch Nails quite many albums, yet every MTV watching dude only remembers one tune - "Animal".
Remember when somebody accused Peter Steele of penning stupid lyrics, only because the accuser had only heard the song "Kill All The White People" and possibly couldn't grasp the point of the song anyway. (Okay, he was quickly quieted down by some excessive third party Type O quoting.)
Hell, if we started to judge Dream Theater (*) by only one line in one of their songs, what would we get if the line was "under the sun there's nothing to hide"? I don't even wanna imagine the dude on the beach, who's going around and showing everyone what he's got underneath that overcoat. :-)
So, in short, I used to hate NIN and Reznor's guts, but that used to be the case with Depeche Mode as well... And now they both rock like nothing else.
And what did I write this for? :-)
(*) - Dream Theater content.
========================================================================= Raivo Hool kontor raitz@estcard.ee ICQ 19980975 isiklik raitz@ircnet.ee Windows NT administraator istuv (+372) 6 711 450 Pankade Kaardikeskus liikuv (+372) 51 43 567 =========================================================================
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:07:11 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: More info on DT tribute CD Message-ID: <199902251007.CAA24808@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., Arash Ashouriha thus begged: >
>Anyway for disc 1, so far we have : > >EVIL WINGS (Italy) "A fortune in lies" >AZTEC JADE (USA) "Another day" >OVERLIFE (Spain) "Metropolis Part I" >ACCOMPLICE (USA) "Pull me under"
Heh, I remember when Accomplice used to throw parties and play DT covers all the time... back when I&W first came out... damn, feels like ages ago...
-The Doc
-- *#&*@#@*(#@#*@(#!@*#(!@#(&!#(@!*#@((#@$(#@(($@#($(#@$@#($@#(*$@(*$*(#(#(##(#(# computersarefasterthanhumans - devastatetoinnovate - hyperspacialparallelcomp\ drkhoe@gmsnet.com = http://progmetal.gmsnet.com = internetcyberwetwaregamedev+ s*o#o$n@@c*o!m^e)s@@t>h<e@@|d~i+g-i%t%a.l@@<M><E><S><S><I><A><H> gaMECoReTeKN0
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:21:48 +0100 From: Bungle <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: more info on DT "tribute" cd Message-ID: <36D5243C.1C31578E@speed.eik.bme.hu>
It will be released by Energie, a small independent Italian record label. A double cd set will be manufactured in a De-Luxe Artwork presentation (Digipacks with 16 pages full colour booklets), disc 1: each selected band will perform their interpretation of a selected DT song, disc 2: each selected band will perform one song from their own production. The scheduled release date is mid April and the planned DT covers as I know:
EVIL WINGS (Italy) - A Fortune In Lies AZTEC JADE (USA) - Another Day OVERLIFE (Spain) - Metropolis ACCOMPLICE (USA) - Pull Me Under DRAMA (Finland) - Lifting Shadows Off A Dream MOON OF STEEL (Italy) - You Not Me CMKY (Italy) - Surrounded EMPTY TREMOR (Italy) - Medley ELEVENTH HOUR (USA) - Learning To Live
Maybe our band (Serenity from Hungary) will be also on the cd with Awake medley, but not because we need a fan base of DT and not because of "money". I just have to mention that the record label can't even pay our studio recording, so it's all fun for us. Otherwise it's not obligatory to buy that record. :)
Cheers, Bungle
> about the dream theater tribute......has dream theater really been > around long enough to warrant a tribute? i'd love to see a setlist and > artist roster.......
------------------------------
End of YTSEJAM Digest 4701 **************************
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b30 : Thu Apr 01 2004 - 18:09:44 EST