YTSEJAM Digest 4553
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Matt , youre being a dick
by AyameYuki@aol.com
2) Re: Thank you mike!
by AyameYuki@aol.com
3) Re: Metallica, Matos
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
4) Source for INSRUMENTAL3/NO SLEEP SINCE BROOKLYN.
by PTE3X@aol.com
5) octobons
by Kyle McCabe <kmccabe@wavetech.net>
6) ANGRA on Century Media, DREAMCHILD?, IN FLAMES
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@umail.ucsb.edu>
7) Re: Two Sides - Left or Right?
by AnalogGal@aol.com
8) NAMM, Mourning Widows (WAS: Re: LTE in LA!?!)
by Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com>
9) Re: Boot Vid
by Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com>
10) NAATCA Update, dear God it is wonderful!
by Conan the Barbarian <chkpntcharlie@ameritech.net>
11) Symphonic Met
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
12) NAMM show
by cherylcat@earthlink.net
13) Re: Andre Matos - Angra and DT
by Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com>
14) Torched
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
15) MP3 of Different Strings / The Rudess Experiment / misc ramblings
by "David-Whitaker" <David-Whitaker@worldnet.att.net>
16) Re: Andre Matos
by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
17) Re: ANGRA on Century Media, DREAMCHILD?, IN FLAMES
by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
18) Petrucci Influences...
by "Mike and Vanessa Patrick" <mepatric@indy.net>
19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4551
by "Denis Klein" <dklein@sti.com.br>
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 21:30:13 EST
From: AyameYuki@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Matt , youre being a dick
Message-ID: <63120926.3696bf35@aol.com>
"please ignore ayame yuki's last post" ? geez matt/ quit bitching about it. i
TRIED to help you, and all of my teachers have been right handed except for
one ( he got deported ), and playing left handed is hard for me, but not for
you. get over it and all i did was offer a TINY bit of help from what ive
learned about that hand technique. oh yeah..and the 1234 4321 1434 2434 is a
better excercise to increase hand strength. the fastest ive heard is 160 from
a friend of mine who just recently recieved a scholarship to Interlochen. all
i suggest now is just relax, and re build up to your current tempo..wasnt it
180 to 204 ? somewhere in the "flaminco" area ? :)
smile more, and dont ever ignore my tips. ive played 4 year longer, doesnt
mean im better though. and dont start bitching about it. im just offering
tips, take your frustrations out on your own guitar. that way you can
practice.
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 21:37:44 EST
From: AyameYuki@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Thank you mike!
Message-ID: <28de422b.3696c0f8@aol.com>
matt's just mad that im a righty. excuse me if i majorly sucked as a lefty,
cant help that i broke my wrist about 5 times since quiting violin and
starting on viola. ( you dont wanna know how "stilting" it feels to have a
pointy horsehair bow rammed into the palm of your hand 3 times ). had a great
time spending 2 hours getting out the splinters. but im still a righty ( with
a cool ace bandage ), who can play either way..lefty or righty. enough of this
matt, i still think you can play guitar how ever you wanna. ( try playing with
your teeth...or chin ( if you have a bass on your hands ) ). i got that tip
from a guitarist in an awful prog band that sufaced at school. ( sounds like
metallica trying to play dave matthews band, but thats my opinion and that
THEY SUCK! ).
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 19:01:09 -0800
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Metallica, Matos
Message-ID: <199901090301.TAA03319@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., Matt Smith thus begged:
>
>
>To all you people who're acting like it's Metallica's fault that the press
>hasn't given due credit to bands like Savatage and Symphony X, fuck you.
Metallica should be blamed for trying to corrupt country music now... man,
they are really dirtying that genre... god help the country music
industry...
-The Doc
-- > drkhoe@gmsnet.com > http://progmetal.gmsnet.com > Windows will rule the world... and one day, you'll have to reboot the entire > thing cause it'll crash.------------------------------
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 22:11:34 EST From: PTE3X@aol.com To: Multiple recipientslist <YTSEJAM@axnet.net> Subject: Source for INSRUMENTAL3/NO SLEEP SINCE BROOKLYN. Message-ID: <6f01b79c.3696c8e6@aol.com>
If any fellow ytsers could help me out,I am looking for a source that has the INSTRUMENTAL3/NO SLEEP SINCE BROOKLYN CD available as well as other sources for other DT boot discs.Thanks,Pete P. E-mail:PTE3X@AOL.COM.
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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 21:59:44 -0600 From: Kyle McCabe <kmccabe@wavetech.net> To: Ytsejammers <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: octobons Message-ID: <3696D430.2CF325F0@wavetech.net>
how can 4 small drums be worth almost the same as a 6-piece drumset? was the price we were quoted way too high, or is there something i don't know about octobans that makes it worth the money? moo.
Possibly the type of wood used to make them. Thats my best guess. Tell your brother MAIL ORDER!
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 20:01:24 -0800 (PST) From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@umail.ucsb.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: ANGRA on Century Media, DREAMCHILD?, IN FLAMES Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.990108195439.22132A-100000@bergman.umail.ucsb.edu>
I read at Hardradio that ANGRA has been picked up by Century Media and will release Fireworks, Holy land, ANgels Cry and the EPs. For those who don't understand, this means US distribution and no more import prices.
I just read a review that said the new Metal Blade band DREAMCHILD kicks ass. I had read a reivew a few years ago which said their demo kicked ass. Reviews anyone??
A picked up IN FLAMES "whoracle" which kicks lots of ass heard 'Subteranean' which KICKS ASS. For those who are starting to get bored of traditional power metal get Subteranean or any IN FLAMES album. Heavy melodic riffing and awesome melodies combined with heavier close to black-metal esque vocals. no US bands can write music like this, that is for sure.
now playing:
DIO- Dream Evil (dio just kicks ass) Bruce Dickinson- A chemical wedding IN flames- whoracle Sentenced- love and death
-- Conrad Chi uchic00@umail.ucsb.edu
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 23:36:32 EST From: AnalogGal@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Two Sides - Left or Right? Message-ID: <f182674a.3696dcd0@aol.com>
<<MICHAEL.ANGELO. talked about this very thing (he's the most ambidextrous goutarist I've ever seen)>> <<Has trouble with his feet then does he? ('Gout' as in goutarist) heheheheheh Is that as in both feet or just the left one or the right one? >>
If it is gout, be thankful he's not a drummer. :)
Christina
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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 23:49:19 -0600 From: Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: NAMM, Mourning Widows (WAS: Re: LTE in LA!?!) Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990108234919.0081d170@academ01.mty.itesm.mx>
hey if someone can tape this it will be great...I heard that Mike Keneally and Beer For Dolphins will be there too and maybe Dweezil Zappa and Blues Saraceno will be playing toghether too...
please guys, if anyone of you are going tape this!!!!!!
by the way, has anyone heard the new album by Nuno Bettencourt....I think it's only available over japan but maybe some of you on the US have seen it....it is called Mourning Widows and it's under a band called Mourning Widows....Nuno played everthing except for the bass....it is supposed to be more heavier and funkier and less alternative than schizophonic.....I havent heard it yet but I would like to know how does it really sounds....
is I get some MP3s I'll let you guys know.....
check my new Dweezil Zappa page....
see ya
At 12:06 PM 8/01/99 -0800, Dr. Mosh wrote: > >Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., Syrinx thus begged: >> >> They're playing at NAMM. >> > >That is correct, LTE will be playing NAMM, I'll be there... it's kinda >late to get passes for NAMM... and it'll cost some big bucks, but if you're >interested, I might be able to swing passes for any interested... today >is Friday 1/8/99... I will take requests up to 9pm PST for NAMM passes.. > >-The Doc > > > >-- >> drkhoe@gmsnet.com >> http://progmetal.gmsnet.com >> Windows will rule the world... and one day, you'll have to reboot the entire >> thing cause it'll crash. > > --- http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/2025/
Alan Estrada Adler, ICQ #9267174 Monterrey, Mexico -------------------------------------------------------- TAKE NOTE OF MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: alan_estrada@bigfoot.com
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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 23:55:20 -0600 From: Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Boot Vid Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990108235520.007c5a30@academ01.mty.itesm.mx>
>1) Which of you New Yorkers managed to get this feast on video tape? >It was taped from what looks like a balcony. The sound isn't that >good but it is a VERY GOOD tape. >2) Anybody else have this??
I have this low gen and you are right it rocks
--- http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/2025/
Alan Estrada Adler, ICQ #9267174 Monterrey, Mexico -------------------------------------------------------- TAKE NOTE OF MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: alan_estrada@bigfoot.com
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Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 01:02:27 +0000 From: Conan the Barbarian <chkpntcharlie@ameritech.net> To: Action Mike <actionboy@prodigy.net>, ang <ridenbaughs@alltel.net>, Subject: NAATCA Update, dear God it is wonderful! Message-ID: <3696AAA3.66B205BA@ameritech.net>
It is again that time of year...time for the National Association for all Things Correct & Accurate to update! This issue features a new layout, and news so real the CIA wants us dead. Check out our "Meet The Staff" article to see your favorite NAATCA staff members, and learn a little something about...love. Keep an eye to the road and an ear to the stars because there are going to be some breaking news updates coming faster than me during sexual intercourse!
Stop in, tell a friend, tell your mom, tell your mom's friend, tell your dad, tell your dad's boss! It is fun for the whole family!!!!
Hugs & Kisses 4-Ever, Zany Mike
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Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 01:21:17 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Symphonic Met Message-ID: <3696F55D.8933BB14@home.com>
> >> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Metallica, the > >> collaborators: the San Francisco Symphony.
I said: > >Wow, this sounds really cool! It would rock if they turned this into a > >CD!
Korgbacca X3 warmed up the Millenium Falcon and typed the following: > No worries. Everbody's favorite sellouts wouldn't give up making a good > buck or 12 here.
Well, I don't doubt that.
>Considering they are suddenly the pioneers of Symphonic Metal, wot?
No, they're certainly not. That doesn't mean it still wouldn't be cool though.....
> :) Savatage, Symph X, DT, et al have been doing this for years and > Metallica gets all the hype when they do it?
Yeah, I know. And Sava does it much better too, IMO (SX also). However, it's not necessarily Metallica's fault that Sava/SX/DT/Rhapsody/Angra type bands don't get any credit.
- Joe D. aka Magellan jdeangelo@home.com ICQ # 1872723 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I swear on tomorrow- If you take this chance- Our lives are this moment The music, the dance- And here in this labyrinth- Of lost mysteries I close my eyes on this night- And you're all that I see - Savatage, from "Not What You See" -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 13:24:48 -0800 From: cherylcat@earthlink.net To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: NAMM show Message-ID: <3667019F.FDC21DF7@earthlink.net>
To anyone interested who is not able to get a pass, I believe you can purchase tickets at the door for $50 per day.
rockercat
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Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 04:51:42 -0500 From: Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Andre Matos - Angra and DT Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990109045142.006abecc@pop.usefulware.com>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
me: >> "Fireworks" is in fact a great album but I don't think that Loureiro and >> Bittencourt sound like Petrucci does; their tone and attack are >> completely different. The solos in "Extreme Dream", though, are very >> tasty and feature some very skillful interplay between the two.
Guillermo, in reply: >I didn't wrote that Angra sounded like Petrucci. I wrote (or I meant) that >the solos in "Paradise" and "Speed" had Petrucci influences.
Ah. Now clarified, I can definitely agree with that. I also seem to remember reading on the premier Angra site that Kiko does list John Petrucci as one of his favorite players.
Keep the comments re: Matos' voice coming, folks, I'm getting a world of amusement from the sixty different opinions I've seen so far. :)
ta, Phil
========================================================= Phil Carter -- phil@usefulware.com http://www.mindspring.com/~philcarter "Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." -- Berthold Auerbach
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Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 03:19:07 -0700 From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Torched Message-ID: <36972D1B.96705E7E@imap1.asu.edu>
I think I've just read through a bunch of Ayame Yuki's posts, and I just have to say...
..what the hell is your problem? Grow the fuck up! Do you need somebody to hold your hand in order to cross the street? I couldn't put that much immaturity into my posts if I tried, and goddammit I'm making a hell of an effort in this one! Poopyhead!
~Eckie says go sit in the corner until you can play nice!
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 05:00:10 -0600 From: "David-Whitaker" <David-Whitaker@worldnet.att.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: MP3 of Different Strings / The Rudess Experiment / misc ramblings Message-ID: <000501bade82$d5a3b360$a50f4a0c@flapjack>
Hey everybody!
First of all, I went to four of the five DT shows. Overall, I drove around 4000 miles roundtrip from Dallas to see these masters in action. I almost died a few times driving on ice on the way up =) and the trip itself was physically exhausting, but geez was it ever worth it.
I got those four shows on tape (Birch Hill, Philadelphia, Irving Plaza, Poughkeepsie) and they all sound excellent. I've only had time to put one song onto MP3. I chose to let you all hear "Different Strings" from the Philly show, as I and a lot of others here on the list are Rush fans. I didn't modify it from the DAT except for amplifying it a tad, and the sound quality still is incredible. It's at the Scarred URL below. Enjoy!
Also, "The Rudess Experiment" has been shipping for about a week now. I've gotten a handful of e-mail compliments on it so far, one person even saying it can be considered one of the top five DT bootlegs ever! I'd have to agree.. it's that good. For those of you not in the know about this title, it's a soundboard recording of the special show back in '94 when Jordan Rudess filled in as interim keyboard player (the only time he did). The bonus tracks are really cool as well, including the what was supposed to be the last Nightmare Cinema performance in San Antonio. I'm feeling pretty priveleged to say that I've seen three most recent NC performances in person. I've gotta be the only one who can say that. =) Every time I see them do NC I marvel at Derek's talent on the guitar.
I've been busy moving back to college, but once I get settled in I will collaborate with Nick Bogovich to produce the "5 Days in a LIVEtime" compilation set. If we combined our recordings then that title will be guaranteed to have the best quality schtuff on it. I have yet to get back to you, Bogie, but I'm comin'.. =) Anyway, that's the great thing about having three tapers attending those concerts. It helps to fill in all the gaps.. I couldn't go to the Toad's show, and Nick's mics conked out, but John Dibella got it all. Then I think Nick couldn't make it to Poughkeepsie, but I got that one. I was frisked at Poughkeepsie, and my camera was taken up, so it's a little bit of a miracle that I got that one on tape. =)
Anyways, it's 5:00AM, so I'm needin' some sleep. Enjoy the sound clip, and take care, everybody!
Ryan Whitaker Scarred Records http://scarred.mit.edu
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Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 13:58:16 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Andre Matos Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9901091354480.2908-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Pedro Olmo Stancioli Vaz de Melo wrote:
> > Last month I went to an ANGRA's show and I would like to say that it was > the best show i've ever being! Andre Matos shown he has power, charisma and > technique.
Wow, sounds promising.... I'll be seeing them next wednesday... Any other Belgian/Dutch/French/German jammers go to the concert in the Spirit of 66 in Verviers (Belgium)? Maybe we can meet or something...
As to Andre's voice.. the first time I heard him, I was surprised, because he does have a quite remarkable voice and singing technique... but now I realize that I cannot imagine Angra with another singer. Angra's sound is so much defined by Andre's voice (not to speak of his magistral arrangements)...
Cheers
Zaphod
============================================================================== Peter Geerts *QUOTE* zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be "HELP!" (The Beatles) ICQ: 13122363 Second Year's Political Sciences Student, Leuven University, Belgium President JVS Orion Mechelen Youth Astronomers Club, Belgium ==============================================================================
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Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 13:59:58 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: ANGRA on Century Media, DREAMCHILD?, IN FLAMES Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9901091359000.2908-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Conrad Chi wrote:
> I read at Hardradio that ANGRA has been picked up by Century Media > and will release Fireworks, Holy land, ANgels Cry and the EPs. > For those who don't understand, this means US distribution and > no more import prices.
Does this mean that Angra, until now, didn't have any US distribution at all? Wow, I thought they were pretty big over there...
And what about S-x?
Cheers
Zaphod
============================================================================== Peter Geerts *QUOTE* zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be "HELP!" (The Beatles) ICQ: 13122363 Second Year's Political Sciences Student, Leuven University, Belgium President JVS Orion Mechelen Youth Astronomers Club, Belgium ==============================================================================
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 19:17:21 -0500 From: "Mike and Vanessa Patrick" <mepatric@indy.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Petrucci Influences... Message-ID: <005601be3b65$6f0b4da0$c254b7d1@mepatric.ppp>
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> I've never seen any interviews where Petrucci says that Crichton was > an influence, but I'd have to say that he was the single biggest > influence to Petrucci's style that I've ever heard.
Yes, lots of stacato bursts of speed, etc. If you think Crichton has a = lock on this, you haven't heard much of Petrucci's hero, Steve Morse. = Don't get me wrong I love Saga dn Crichton, but Morse is pretty much a = guitarist beyond measure. =20
Three words: 'High Tension Wires'
Mike Patrick
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Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 16:36:57 -0200 From: "Denis Klein" <dklein@sti.com.br> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4551 Message-ID: <011201be3bff$0bd8a800$5bffe6c8@ennio>
>> During the DT show at the Electric Factory in Philly on Dec 26, >> I asked my long time girlfriend to marry me and I did the whole >> ring thing! She has been to a DT show before and really didn't >> like the band but during the show she really enjoyed it and >> said it will be a night she never forgets.
If it worked, next time I go to a DT concert I'll bring some rings with me! :)
Klein dklein@sti.com.br
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