YTSEJAM Digest 4563
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Grammys
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
2) "You Fly"
by EricPMetze@aol.com
3) Re: "You Fly"
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
4) Re: Grammys
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
5) Re: "YEAH YEAH DIE DIE".. hehehe...this brings back memories...
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
6) Re: ah, yesterdays...
by "Trent Thornton" <stairway2kashmir@hotmail.com>
7) Re: pickin' on a bass
by AyameYuki@aol.com
8) System of a Down
by rockercat <cherylcat@earthlink.net>
9) Re: Fads
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
10) Re: Fads
by "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
11) Re: "You Fly"
by Edward Polzin <polzin@uiuc.edu>
12) ****LTE Live Dates**** Spread the word!!!
by "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfqc@nl1.telmex.net.mx>
13) Ice, Ice Baby
by Ryan Park <rpark@space-dye.com>
14) ride to the lte shows
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
15) Fates Warning Trivia Contest!
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
16) Re: ****LTE Live Dates**** Spread the word!!!
by Edward Polzin <polzin@uiuc.edu>
17) Re: ride to the lte shows
by DragynLMC3@aol.com
18) Bass pickin'
by "Rainer" <rpandean@mail.usyd.edu.au>
19) Liquid Tension Experiment in LA
by "Wes Foll (Beavis)" <follwes@sc.llu.edu>
20) Trading / Tapedeck info request
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
21) Re: RealAudio decompressing -- NDTC
by Peter Andersson <pe-and@sectra.se>
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:42:12 -0500
From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Grammys
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990113184212.007de930@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>
Just for the record, I happen to like Will Smith. He is probably one of the
few rappers I really like. I think he is a very intelligent human being,
and he is funny as hell. If you don't believe me, watch the Fresh Prince of
Belleir, or Men in Black.
At 03:14 PM 1/13/1999 -0800, you wrote:
>
> :Now the Grammys, THEY do avoid talent. What is the world coming to
> :when Will Smith wins a Grammy for best male R&B
>
> those highly publicized music awards shows are all popularity
> contests. talent is secondary. i'm not implying that all grammy
> winners lack talent. i'm not saying that they have an abundance of
> talent either. i'm just saying that IMO when they say "best" they
> mean "most popular".
>
> -Andrew
> _____________________________________________________
> subtlerage@subtlerage.com - http://www.subtlerage.com
> keyboard oriented progressive new age ambient rock
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:00:12 EST
From: EricPMetze@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: "You Fly"
Message-ID: <6a9e169.369d338c@aol.com>
Hey, I know this is a silly question, but who did the song "You Fly"? I
downloaded it and I never found out who did it.
[eriC]
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:23:04 -0800
From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: "You Fly"
Message-ID: <369D38E8.63E1865E@pacbell.net>
That would be Vanden Plas, from The God Thing.
EricPMetze@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hey, I know this is a silly question, but who did the song "You Fly"? I
> downloaded it and I never found out who did it.
>
> [eriC]
-- Lisa Marie "Jessie" ytsegirl@pacbell.net http://www.dreamt.org/jessie _______________________________ Ytsejam Radio on Real Audio http://www.dreamt.org/ytseradio------------------------------
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:06:02 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Grammys Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9901132304180.10728-100000@jaca>
On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, subtlerage wrote:
> those highly publicized music awards shows are all popularity > contests. talent is secondary.
Well, finally someone is repeating what I said when people were voting on one of those polls (I don't remember if it was the "Song of the Millennium" or "Metal Edge's Reader's Poll" or whatever).
Nice to see that I'm not alone.
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:24:54 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: "YEAH YEAH DIE DIE".. hehehe...this brings back memories... Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9901132320120.10831-100000@jaca>
On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 Devs0432@aol.com wrote:
> If you are a fan of curious music, and/or are extremely curious > yourself, definitely check this out. It is some riot. Waltari teamed > up with the Swedish (I believe) national Symphony and they did one > performance... the orchestra really loved it, but they couldn't do > more 'cause they ran out of funds. (...)
Hey, could someone please upload some MP3 to some homepage, please? I've tried to find this album on every on-line store that I know of (cdnow, cdconnection, musicblvd, cdworld and cduniverse, among others) but couldn't find it and I'm not exactly with much cash right now. :-(
Any MP3 samples would be welcome.
Thank you very much in advance, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:29:15 PST From: "Trent Thornton" <stairway2kashmir@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: ah, yesterdays... Message-ID: <199901140129.RAB25766@law-f85.hotmail.com>
This is my girst post to this list, but I have to agree with this. Led Zeppelin are the second or third most popular band EVER. They've never released an album that hasn't gone at least double platinum. But they only had ONE "hit single" ("Whole Lotta Love") and they were mainly an underground success. Back in the 70's, it was possible to be the biggest selling band in the world (and they were) and still have a huge amount of the mass public never even know who you are. It's screwy but it's true. That's one thing I like about Dream Theater- they're certainly successful, but you really couldn't categorize them in with Hanson and other pop acts. And most pop music does suck. I'm not trying to offend you, that's just my opinion.
Trent
>>Ehh...I have to disagree. Cream, Hendrix, etc, were popular, but in an >>underground sort of way. The charts at that time were dominated by stuff >>like Aretha Franklin and the Monkees and Pat Boone. Not that there's >>anything wrong with Aretha. Genesis were never big until the 80's when Phil >>sang. Yes had about three charted singles. > >Alright, Yes's songs were all over 20 minutes so they couldn't be >singles, and Genesis didn't break in the US until the self title, which >was not the first Phil one, but he was the lead singer. >But you _have_ to agree that there was something different about that >era of music. It wasn't until post WWII that record companies even >discovered that the youth of America would even BUY music. In the 60's >and 70's, music was more universal, and the bands that were popular >actually had an amount of talent, either in songwriting or performing. > >Music is cyclical, and there are times when good music is popular and there >are times when bad music is popular. And I whole-heartedly dissagree with >the people who say pop music will always suck, so deal. I'll always fight >to get people to like my music, becuase I want everyone else to get the >joy out of it that I do; I know it won't happen, but I'll try. Bands like >The Who and The Doors were considered Pop music in their day, so it wasn't >always that bad. > >Argue it any way you want. There WILL be a music revolution, or >revitalization, or recycle, or whatever you want to call it. It will >happen, becuase history tells us it will happen. Whether talent >comes in style is up for debate, but there will be a change. > >-davek >
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:22:37 EST From: AyameYuki@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: pickin' on a bass Message-ID: <e5d8d464.369d54ed@aol.com>
hey dale...trust me..growing your nails out to use as picks was a wacky idea ( did your nails snap off or crack badly ? )...but ive tried that. ( its killer pain if you try to use your nails as a pick. its easier to use the thin plastic picks....but if you want sorta of a thick, but choppy sound...try a slightly thicker pick ) about the thickness of a thumbnail when viewed when most of the flesh is visible, except for the nail arch . but anyways, if you like picking on a bass instead of collecting your own calluses, go right ahead, pick away! :) ive tried playing with a pick ( and gotten yelled at for attemting to break the strings ( WHICH I BOUGHT ! the friggen bastards! ) but hey...i got into Puppies on Acid a little too seriously....L:)
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:36:13 -0800 From: rockercat <cherylcat@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: System of a Down Message-ID: <369D662A.7F7A638@earthlink.net>
I saw these guys at the Forum open up for Sabbath/Pantera as well. Needless to say, I saw about 2 songs and then went upstairs to hang out in the beer line. I believe there are only 3 words to adequately explain this band's live sound....SHITTY AS HELL
rockercat
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:00:29 -0600 (CST) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Fads Message-ID: <199911322463346334@ix.netcom.com>
<< I'm disheartened when people try to discredit genres of music. One can really only do that if one is ignorant. If you can't appreciate some styles of music, that's a PROBLEM for you. That's not good. I have trouble with some music... but not with any whole genres of music. >>
I think this is a bull shit statement. No one HAS to appriciate every style of music, and if you dont, its not a problem, its a matter of taste. I personally only have problems with 3 whole styles or music - rap/hiphop, country, and reggae/ska. I dont think that to be a problem, because all of the artists that Ive heard in these particular styles dont interest me, so until I hear an artist in any of these styles that I like, I will stop dismissing the whole genre. Also, there is a big difference in appriciate styles of music and appriciating the MUSICIANS that play that music, and their ability. If the person has obvious musical talent and/or techincal profficiency, then I think it would be wrong not to appriciate that talent. You dont have to like their playing, but to say a good musician sucks because you dont like the kind of music he or she plays, I think that is wrong. I used to have this problem with death metal bands, though now, even though I dont like death metal, I do appriciate the technical ability that some of the musicians have.
On a different note, has anyone noticed that what R&B is known as today is NOTHING like the type of music that it used to be? Last I checked R&B stood for rhythm and BLUES. I remember that the Blues Brothers called themself an R&B band. These new "r&b" artists arent very remenicent of "Mustang Sally" or "Soul Man." I know music evolves, but the way R&B sounds now doesnt even fit the name of the genre anymore.
Matt
===================================================== "A daily dose of eMpTyV "Following our instinct will flush your mind not a trend. Go against right down the drain." the grain until the end." -Dream Theater -Metallica =====================================================
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:12:29 -0600 From: "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Fads Message-ID: <369d6ead4eb2001@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
Responding To: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com Original Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:17:16 -0800 (PST)
> On a different note, has anyone noticed that what R&B is known as today > is NOTHING like the type of music that it used to be? Last I checked R&B > stood for rhythm and BLUES. I remember that the Blues Brothers called > themself > an R&B band. These new "r&b" artists arent very remenicent of "Mustang > Sally" or > "Soul Man." I know music evolves, but the way R&B sounds now doesnt even > fit the > name of the genre anymore.
Who cares? We still call prog prog, even though all prog bands are still just rewriting old Yes, Genesis, Rush, and Pink Floyd tunes. When's the last time a prog band was actually progressive??
-Brian
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:30:44 -0600 From: Edward Polzin <polzin@uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: "You Fly" Message-ID: <369D72F4.D206C8F9@uiuc.edu>
vanden plas from "The God Thing"
EricPMetze@aol.com wrote:
> Hey, I know this is a silly question, but who did the song "You Fly"? I > downloaded it and I never found out who did it. > > [eriC]
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:37:11 -0600 From: "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfqc@nl1.telmex.net.mx> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: ****LTE Live Dates**** Spread the word!!! Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990113213711.007a6100@nl1.telmex.net.mx>
>Don't miss the ONLY live appearances >(maybe ever!?!?!) of >LIQUID TENSION EXPERIMENT >featuring Mike Portnoy, John Petrucci, Jordan Rudess and Tony Levin >Don't miss what will surely be a once in a lifetime experience!!!!
Mr. Portnoy: If it is going to be the only opportunity to see you live together, why don't you tape the show and distribute it under the Magna Carta label. It will be the first HomeVideo of Magna Carta!!!
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:36:44 -0500 From: Ryan Park <rpark@space-dye.com> To: jrasi@bigfoot.com Cc: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Ice, Ice Baby Message-ID: <4.1.19990113233103.00930880@pluto.he.net>
Joshua,
> Does he still call himself Vanilla Ice, or has it just been shortened to > Ice? Trivia: I first heard the Queen/Bowie song Under Pressure about two > years ago, and thought it was a really awesome remix of the "original" > vanilla ice version. When I told people and they laughed at me, I > quickly learned the truth. > A few weeks ago, during some stupid MTV spot, he called the Snapple Lady > a bitch. that was priceless.
I believe he still goes by Vanilla Ice.
Listen to this: our local classic rock station (Q106.5 FM, Davenport Iowa) tried a "mystery guest" segment: they get a guest on the phone, you ask questions and try to figure out who it is. Well, their first attempt at the mystery guest failed: he was stuck at a court appearance defending right to own a pet lynx. (Great... this didn't sound very promising... <g>) The next day, they got him on the phone. After about three callers, they pinned it down to Vanila Ice! I was outraged! I mean, there are so many entertainers they could have gotten, and they got VANILLA ICE?!!?!??
Anyway, the interview sucked, but the Dwyer & Michaels morning show still rocks. They are the funniest DJs on the planet -- a GREAT show.
Ryan
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:38:08 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: ride to the lte shows Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990113233808.007d52e0@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>
OK, guys. It is Damon again, pleading and begging for assistance in transportation to any LTE show in New York or Phillie. I will pay for gas if I have to, and if you think I will be a nuisance, just ask Skadz and D_man if I am a pain or not. I would love to see these guys live. Anybody who has extra room and wouldn't mind having me tag along, email me privately. i will buy beer if that's what it takes. Think of it. GAss money,k toll money, and beer? You have nothnig to lose. Email now, or forever wonder.
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:47:54 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> To: "fates@listservant.com (Parallels List)" <fates@listservant.com>, Subject: Fates Warning Trivia Contest! Message-ID: <369D76FA.778725E1@ivorygate.com>
Go to http://www.ivorygate.com/fw and try your hand at some really hard Fates trivia (from Jim himself!). The first one to answer them all correctly gets a cool prize (and runners up will probably get some nice stuff too!)... Check it out.
-- ~Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> <ICQ # 2070538> "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." - http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Come join the discussions in the new online Bulletin Board! <<<
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:54:20 -0600 From: Edward Polzin <polzin@uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: ****LTE Live Dates**** Spread the word!!! Message-ID: <369D787B.4789B764@uiuc.edu>
or the first DVD video. okay, maybe i'm asking a little too much. :)
"Juan Fco. Quintero" wrote:
> >Don't miss the ONLY live appearances > >(maybe ever!?!?!) of > >LIQUID TENSION EXPERIMENT > >featuring Mike Portnoy, John Petrucci, Jordan Rudess and Tony Levin > >Don't miss what will surely be a once in a lifetime experience!!!! > > Mr. Portnoy: > If it is going to be the only opportunity to see you live together, why > don't you tape the show and distribute it under the Magna Carta label. It > will be the first HomeVideo of Magna Carta!!!
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:35:16 EST From: DragynLMC3@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: ride to the lte shows Message-ID: <828e6074.369d8214@aol.com>
well the way it goes for me is that I'm not gonna buy a ticket unless i can get a ride. Now i am going to be in NY (rockland county) for the remainder of Jan and would love to go to one of these shows. I am also willing to pay gas etc for a ride there and back :} But alas I will also be losing internet access for the remainder of Jan as well. So please email me b4 thusday night or email my friend at CANVASDNCR@aol.com. thank you.
~Lisa DragynLMC3@aol.com http://members.aol.com/dragynlmc3/DragynsLair.html Always do what's right. This will gratify some and astonish the rest. ~Mark Twain
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:16:24 +1100 From: "Rainer" <rpandean@mail.usyd.edu.au> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Bass pickin' Message-ID: <000001be3f81$a2eface0$78384e81@rpandean>
I don't think Myung ever uses a pick, from what I've seen on his instructional video he just picks so hard with his fingers that the strings actually clip the pickups (check out the very first thing he plays on the tape). Another thing I've seen on the Nathan East instructional video tape is a way of getting a pick sound without using a pick is using your fingernails (flamenco/classical style?) and picking closer to the bridge.
Regarding active vs passive basses, personally I prefer passive basses, either all passive or passive pickups and an active preamp. I just find active basses to sterile sounding. Although a lot of bass and pickup manufacturers concentrate on getting a cleaner and higher output bass, in my opinion a technically cleaner and high output bass does not necessarily correspond to a better sound.
Rainer
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:11:36 -0800 From: "Wes Foll (Beavis)" <follwes@sc.llu.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Liquid Tension Experiment in LA Message-ID: <4.1.19990113180446.00925320@sc.llu.edu>
Okay, I just bought my LTE ticket for LA, Feb. 1. Who else plans on going? Let's hook up at the show! 8)
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:03:24 -0500 From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Trading / Tapedeck info request Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990114020324.00960760@pop.wam.umd.edu>
>>>>I'm giving away one free Rudess disc to each of the regional >>>I want one too! Then I can play it on Ytseradio. That would be >> they're available for $23 at http://scarred.mit.edu/.
(...assuming somebody hasn't already said it...)
OR, you could wait a little while 'til the show becomes a little more circulated, and trade for it, thus getting it for free (the price it, and all other bootlegs, *should* cost...). But don't start another bootleg-war on my account.
The real point of my writing is taping-related, actually . My old deck, a Sony, went off to Silicon Heaven (bless its soul). I'm in the market for a new (analog) tapedeck, and am looking for suggestions. I'm thinking mid-priced, no more than a few hundred -- not a cheapie, not too expensive, and definitely not another Sony ("guaranteed to break just after the warranty runs out"). Any help'd be appreciated.
Brian
=================================== Name: W. Brian Henderson, Esq. Contact: hender@wam.umd.edu ROBOT-CENTRAL: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/ His Faithful Bootleg Page: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/Musik/Boot/ ===================================
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:58:12 +0100 From: Peter Andersson <pe-and@sectra.se> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: RealAudio decompressing -- NDTC Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990114085812.00d7e100@desmond.sectra.se>
>Compressing means losing some information right?
No, compression is changing the way to represent information, with the resulting representation being "smaller". Compression can be both reversible and irreversible. I believe RA is an irreversible compression, making it impossible to have the original information brought back (I guess the tool you tak about only converts to wav, not decompress).
With images, for instance, you can compress images about 4 times without loosing any information at all using a smart compression algorithm (well, it depends also on the type of image).
/Peter
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