YTSEJAM Digest 4574
Today's Topics:
1) Re: <Sigh>
by Isaac Sabetai <isabetai@bu.edu>
2) Bassists
by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
3) No Suits, No Commutes !!!
by team2001ad@products-services.com
4) Attention Sydney Jammers
by Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au>
5) Re: Sean Malone
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
6) Re: MP3s
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
7) Wing nuts & Progballs
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
8) MP3's increase sales
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
9) Late Breaking News--LTE Tour Dates
by Yes0001@aol.com
10) bass, yes, rap
by =?Windows-1252?Q?Mats_Rydstr=F6m?= <d94-mry@nada.kth.se>
11) LTE (round 8)
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
12) Istanbul is Constantinople Now (new name for KOTR)
by MusicSnob@aol.com
13) Re: DT in studio???
by Darth1@aol.com
14) octobans,6:00, LTE NY, complaint
by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
15) signature
by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
16) Phily tickets?????????????????????????
by "Darren Overcash" <bassplyr@hotmail.com>
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 03:04:22 -0500
From: Isaac Sabetai <isabetai@bu.edu>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net>, ytsejam@ozemail.com.au
Subject: Re: <Sigh>
Message-ID: <36A04806.C3E40014@bu.edu>
> >Re: the length of the LTE tour.
>
> >It's such a shame the tour is so short. I mean MP and JP certainly
> don't
> >have anything better to in early February... It's not like DT is
> >scheduled to go into the studio or anything unimportant like that...
>
> ROTFLMAO
> Oh how bout they spend some time with their family ?
> That's one good reason isn't it ?
> You think DT had done quite enough already yet some still
> are not satisfied....
> You'd think that with all the recent happening they might like a
> break from it all ?
>
You'd think someone with your knowledge of sarcasm and flames would
realize I was NOT being serious. I was being sarcastic. :)
For the record- I do appreciate all the work DT and LTE have done the
past year. Let's see in a little more than a year we've had one studio
DT album, one live video, one 2CD live album, two fanclub CDs, a monster
DT tour and one LTE album with another on its way, plus DT heading into
the studio next month. I'm more than satisfied with those in addition to
seeing five DT concerts and one MP and JP clinic in that span, too. I
wish I could see LTE live, but I'll be more than able to survive with
what I previously mentioned. Thanks DT for the great year. :)
> your in humbleness
> gaz
>
Yours in sarcasm.
Isaac
--
"Evil will always triumph because good is dumb."-- Helmet
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:13:39 -0600 (CST)
From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Bassists
Message-ID: <199901160813.CAA06517@adam.enteract.com>
Sometimes I wonder why everyone names the same favorite bassists, and they
all tend to be people who aren't at the pinnacle of any sort of function
in the bass community.
What has Dave Ellefson done that has been noteworthy? I know I taught a
friend to play megadeth basslines in very little time... and he doesn't
really solo... I doubt Mustaine even lets him write his own lines.
People should look into some more cats... my collection focuses largely
around guitar players, but I have been forced to seek out and drool over
players like Gary Willis, Bill Dickens, Wooten, O'teil (from ARU),
Manring, Bailey, Patitucci, Jaco, that freak from McLaughlin's "Que
Alegria", Malone, Onder, McBride, Mark Egan, and countless others.
Geddy Lee is awesome, but his contribution is to the music world, IMO, not
neccessarily to the bass world. Stu Hamm hasn't advanced in about 10
years... if anything he's regressed. Billy Sheehan hasn't done anything
new either (but he's still a monster).
Look some of these guys up... expand your influences. It can only help
you out. I don't regret having spent most of my money on CDs. I wouldn't
consider selling more than a small handful (single digits) back. I'm
sure, since I rarely go out seeking new monster bassists, that I've not
even scratched the surface. I know as a simple matter of fact that the
people who always list Vai, Satch, and Petrucci as their idols haven't
scratched the surface (though those names belong in any well rounded Rock
Guitar Hero list!) of what's out there. If anyone with a small cd
collection is looking to expand and catch some wild guitar players, drop
me a line, and I can make a couple hundred recommendations for you, in
practically any genre (that includes rap, country, and techno). If anyone
can make any bass recommendations (that are beyond the obvious... don't
point me at someone like Steve Harris, who I've already heard a million
times (yeah, I AM a little bit of a Maiden fan... :) drop me an e-mail.
And if any jazz guys want to recommend a good rendition of the old Victor
Young standard "Beautiful Love" I would be thankful... we're working on
Melodic Minor now, and that tune is apparently all diatonic within melodic
minor.
- Chris
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:15:16 +1100
From: Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Attention Sydney Jammers
Message-ID: <36A058A4.91297371@ozemail.com.au>
Infinity + Strapping Young Lad + Ocean Machine & support Henry's Anger
The Metro, George Street, Sydney Febuary 12th
Tickets on sale sale now, get em while you can !
gaz
PS Any jammers that want to meet up before/after the show, please email
me :)
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:19:13 -0200 (EDT)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Sean Malone
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9901160917001.16178-100000@jaca>
On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, DYER wrote:
> I said:
>
> >> My fave bassist is Sean Malone... anxiously waiting to recieve Gordian
> >> Knot... listening to Cynic and Cortlandt alot lately in anticipation :)
>
> Then Roger said:
>
> >What if Sean Malone joined Opeth? Hummm... Just wondering... :-)
>
> Now I say:
>
> And if Sean Rienert were to follow him......Opeth would have the best rythhm
> section in the business...:)
Too bad they already got a new drummer and a new bassist. What an
incredible band would it be, huh? Mikael Akerfeldt, Peter L., Sean R. and
Shawn Malone. A top quartet making incredible music. :-)
> ahhh...dreams....
I don't know what the result would be, but... :-)
> Paul D.
[]s, Roger...
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:21:25 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: MP3s Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9901160920130.16178-100000@jaca>
On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Alan Estrada wrote:
> today I used for the first time an MP3 walkman, it's kind of cool, you can > move the damn thing as much as you want and you'll get the sound always as > it was recorded... > I didnt like that it just supports 30 megs, I guess I would like to buy one > sometime when it holds near the capacity of a CD (=
And how does it store the songs? In non-volatile RAM or something similar? How do you record the songs? How long does it take? Can you add extra memory/capacity/whatever?
[]s, Roger...
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 06:36:25 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Wing nuts & Progballs Message-ID: <36A087C8.5B39509A@isd.net>
Kevin Rackley wrote: >1.) Dream Theater - Awake >2.) Modern Drummer HOT TRAX CD=20 >3.) LTE - Liquid Tension Experiment >>4.) Winger - In The Heart of the Young >5.) ELP - Brain Salad Surgery >6.) Dream Theater - 1998 DTIFC CD =20
Winger! Is that something you put in the player as a reminder of why you purchased the other five? What's the Kipster doing these days?
/Al is attempting to conceal any evidence he purchased Winger's debut CD.
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:03:49 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: MP3's increase sales Message-ID: <36A08E35.5964ABA4@isd.net>
Andrew Coutermarsh wrote: >like to be able to listen to them now. That doesn't mean that just >because I have an MP3 of a band I'm not going to buy their CD. On the >contrary, I have quite a few MP3s of music that I have on CD. But I don't >see a problem with having a digitized copy of it either. Maybe I should >have specified that I wasn't looking for a replacement to the purchased >copy... But until I can afford the CD (they ARE imports, and thus more snip >it wrong for me to want that? Anybody else think so? I don't.
>Flame away on the morals of owning MP3s of released material.
I have purchased dozens of CD's as a result of previewing MP3 files.
And several of my purchases have trickled down to friends in the form of another CD purchase.
Nuff said.
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:21:56 EST From: Yes0001@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Late Breaking News--LTE Tour Dates Message-ID: <19ef7e6b.36a09274@aol.com>
This may already have been posted, but important enough to risk duplication. Liquid Tension Experiment (Tony Levin, Mike Portnoy, John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess) are doing several live dates. These may be the only dates the band will ever do. If you are fortunate enough to be near one of the cities they are playing, by all means, make the show. The tour dates are up at Music Street Journal www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Arena/9250/ <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Arena/9250/">Music Street Journal</A> . Also, if you haven`t already done so, check out the review of the album in the progressive rock archives on the site.
Thanks
Gary
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:50:42 +0100 From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Mats_Rydstr=F6m?= <d94-mry@nada.kth.se> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: bass, yes, rap Message-ID: <004b01be4220$75268d00$7c25ed82@default>
Yowza yowza, fartknockers!
It's interesting how people percieve what they first became familiar with (in a band or genre) as THE true and only representation. It's a natural thing, of course, but I find that I most often want to find out more about a specific band's or genre's roots, it's development and it's hi's and lo's before jumping to conclusions. With Yes I first heard Owner... thought it was a so-so pop song. But Close To The Edge, Fragile and Relayer later made the biggest impression on me, to me those are that band's tour-de-force. The 80's and 90's material is to me unbearable and the Keys to Ascension live stuff sounds awfully naff to my ears. Well executed, but unimaginative sounds and arrangements. Well, that's what most prog rock has come to be post-70's ;-)
Fave bassists: Apart from Mr Myung those would be Geddy, Jonesy, Billy, Stanley, Wetton, Geezer, Jaco, Lemmy, Macca, Cliff, Enthwistle, Bruce and Mike Dean from Corrosion of Conformity. Bass, as well as any other means of expression, should IMO not only be performed with skill, but with BALLS, or what sounds like balls (or cunt, if you prefer, or passion or whatever) (but does it really matter? does it matter whether Marilyn Manson is "for real" or if he's just doing his thing tounge-in-cheek? As he said it himself "everyone's gotta admit that whatever I do I do it really well".) Well, least favourite players IMHonestO: Patitucci, Hamm...
And the rap issue, if you care to look around there's a lot of cutting edge stuff out there, and I would think that people with open minds could get into Wu Tang, Redman etc, regardless of the style. Of course you'll have to get beyond the style, and the musical and lyrical language. To some, a squealing lead guitar is something that doesn't belong in music, to others... all music is in some way most valid in it's own time and in that time's cultural climate, and does not stand the test of time: Only the true geniuses can tap in to the lasting qualities and create timeless masterpieces. Think of this: Duran Duran did sound HOT in 84, in 90 they hadn't aged well and now... forget it. MC Hammer in 98 compared to 99, The Undertones in the 70's... but The Beatles, well of course, doesn't really sound that much more dated now than they did in 80 when at six years of age I probably first got conscious about music, or in 90 when I became a frantic record buyer. Or is it the fact that hip hop music and culture is a counter-culture to average white americans? Is that why you dismiss it, because you feel threatened by it?
Discuss,
Mats - lordrosse@yahoo.com - http://lordrosse.home.ml.org - d94-mry@nada.kth.se - http://www.nada.kth.se/~d94-mry
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:54:01 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: LTE (round 8) Message-ID: <36A099F9.AD796B75@isd.net>
Another frustrated jammer (Hi Juli) wrote: >>DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT no LTE in Chicago??!! >>Come on Santa Mike Chicago is inbetween New York and LA can't ya just >swing in >>and play a show?
The above statement was obviously said in the (I don't expect it, but it sure would be cool, Pretty please) mode.
Josh Brand begged:
{I second that emotion. Come on, Mike, can't you convince the other guys {to stop in on your way across the country? Think of it, you'd be getting {'jammers from Minnesota, Michigan, Ohio, Missouri, Illinois, Wisonsin... {you get the idea. For crying out loud, I'm in _Houghton_, Michigan. Do {you know where that is? Short answer: someplace you will never play. So {go to Chicago, if not for the sake of humanity, then for the sake of {ytse-nuts willing to lease their soul to see you four live. Think about {it... thanks.
That was begging & groveling. I do commend your enthusiasm. :)
In the event that LTE deceided to book a Chacago show, would I go? Damn right! I drove from Minnesota to Chicago for my 3rd FII show. I'd sure as hell drive there for LTE. Oh, BTW, I always bring friends. Do I expect or demand a Midwest show? NO.
Juli defended herself with:
>I was merely dissapointed that LTE will not be playing in the mid-west. I >know that Chicago is very good to DT and Tony Levin has said that he loves to >play there. Now all you fuckers jump down my throat for being selfish. Which I >am not. If I was selfish I wouldn't bother to drive out of town to 3 differant >cities to see DT. For those of you that have money burning holes in your >pocket and have the luxury of flying to see them thats fuckin great I'm very >happy for you. There are those of us that either don't have the cash or are >too young and the powers that be (Mom and Dad) wouldn't let them fly cross >country for a show. In closing I would like to say GET THE FUCK OFF OF MY >BACK! > Juli
I like your spunk! Juli, you can drive to Minnesota, plug your bass in to my amplifier and mesmerize me with your serpentine golden tones anytime you want. :) My 'Ol Lady may have some objections. <grin> Then again, I could always ship her off to Derek's place.
Juli Jammer? Does she have a brother or something named Astro?
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:03:35 EST From: MusicSnob@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Istanbul is Constantinople Now (new name for KOTR) Message-ID: <72acbb0d.36a0b857@aol.com>
Knights of the Round CD store has changed to http://www.moremetal.com. They now have a secure area for ordering and a shopping cart feature. Their prices are always great, and they are very responsive. Check out the site.
NP: Rage - XIII
Kevin
KorgX wrote: >hehehe. I never have a problem with that. I think CDNow wanted almost $30 >for TiO when I ordered it, but I just checked, Knights of the Round has >it for $13.99 (German import). Put it down for postal delivery (at cost, no >damn postage markups) and expect David to have it to you in just a week or >so. I can never harp enough about those guys. Here's ya a shortcut. >http://www.knightsoftheround.com/zcats.htm It takes a minute to load tho.
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:08:53 EST From: Darth1@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: DT in studio??? Message-ID: <f9975505.36a0b995@aol.com>
> <smack!>
> they *are* going into the studio in February. :)
I heard rumors of this... Is it actually true though?
Josh S.
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:07:51 PST From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: octobans,6:00, LTE NY, complaint Message-ID: <19990116180752.14502.qmail@hotmail.com>
hi all, first, I think you're all wrong. It's neither octobans, nor rototoms, nor high toms. It is a set up of a medium sized childrens bicycle helmet, a large yellow construction work helmut stuffed with old Alice Cooper undies, a Slazenger tennis ball container(containing only 4 of the factory desired 6 balls), a size xs hockey helmet with Bill Clintons head under it and last but not least the boot size 10 that was used in which other recording?? Korg? Anybody?
second, since everybody talks about the intro now, someone might be able to answer my previous question regarding the grouping of the attacks. I suggested(not being a drummer) it is 2-3-3-3-3, but would be delighted to leran the truth.(babadadadabababadadadabababa bumbumtschak)
third. I'll be at LTE in NY on thirsty(??), but I won't bring my fancy hat, so maybe we'll just remember faces. I figure I won't wear any DT gear. Plain black or Red Wings most likely.
forth, I thought one of the rules was to keep the quotes from posts one is answering as short as possible. I noticed that Trent is a newbee(sp?), so I guess he's excused, but often I don't see a reason that people reprint whole posts if they aren't even answering to them.
That's all,
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:10:18 PST From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: signature Message-ID: <19990116181018.26201.qmail@hotmail.com>
I meant to hit signature and sent it instead. That's all.
sebastian
seize the day, please
schnipp@bigfoot.com ICQ: forgotten Phone: a secret NP: DT a change of seasons take care
I was listening to Rush the first time in my life yesterday(different stages) and was not turned away. I '[ll listen to more...
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:16:07 PST From: "Darren Overcash" <bassplyr@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Phily tickets????????????????????????? Message-ID: <19990116181608.26859.qmail@hotmail.com>
I live in Greensboro, NC but I intend to drive up to Phily next Friday for the show. Can anyone tell me how to get tickets that may live near Phily or just happens to know this info? Please email me with info! Thanks a lot in advance and I have already tried to call and there was only a recording that did not include this show. I hope to see you all there!!!!!!! Later!
Darren
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