YTSEJAM Digest 4575
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Fads / RA
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
2) Help needed :(
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
3) Philly? Canceled?
by "Scott Sturdivant" <scott@erotomania.org>
4) Funny...i thought i heard a whomping
by AyameYuki@aol.com
5) I pledge allegeance.....
by "Bill Blanchard" <wildbill2112@hotmail.com>
6) Re: octobans,6:00, LTE NY, complaint
by Brad Plumb <palpatine@earthlink.net>
7) Yes
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
8) They're up now!
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
9) Re: I pledge allegeance.....
by "Trent Thornton" <stairway2kashmir@hotmail.com>
10) LTE Tour
by "Steve Ferris" <stevo_14@hotmail.com>
11) Not to be another jerk, but I gotta say it
by YtseSryche@aol.com
12) Re: They're up now!
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
13) In Support of Female Musos ......
by IceQD@aol.com
14) Re: LTE Tour
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
15) MP3s / DT in the studio
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
16) Re: In Support of Female Musos ......
by Craig Griffith <tarkus@softhome.net>
17) Re: MP3s / DT in the studio
by "Trent Thornton" <stairway2kashmir@hotmail.com>
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:02:29 +0100
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Fads / RA
Message-ID: <36A09BF5.1EA0FA4A@mol.com.mk>
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:12:29 -0600
> From: "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
> Subject: Re: Fads
>
> > On a different note, has anyone noticed that what R&B is known
> > as today is NOTHING like the type of music that it used to be?
> > Last I checked R&B stood for rhythm and BLUES. I remember
> > that the Blues Brothers called themself an R&B band. These new
> > "r&b" artists arent very remenicent of "Mustang Sally" or
> > "Soul Man." I know music evolves, but the way R&B sounds now
> > doesnt even fit the name of the genre anymore.
This is very true! I was shocked first time I saw soem reward show and
the catgerogy R7B canme! "Good" I said to myslef, "finally some good
music!" And then they started showing all kinds of pop/rap/disco clips.
???? "What the he.....?!?!? :("
What's going on?
> From: Peter Andersson <pe-and@sectra.se>
> Subject: Re: RealAudio decompressing -- NDTC
>
> >Compressing means losing some information right?
>
> No, compression is changing the way to represent information,
> with the resulting representation being "smaller". Compression
> can be both reversible and irreversible. I believe RA is
> an irreversible compression, making it impossible to
> have the original information brought back
So who would ever need ra2wav program? :)
--CyberDuke _______________________________________________________ Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail duskob@mol.com.mk ICQ# 17392722 _______________________________________________________
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:49:42 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: YtseLand <ytsejam@axnet.net>, Bobi Fidanoski <bobby@mol.com.mk>, Subject: Help needed :( Message-ID: <36A098F6.C0B44693@mol.com.mk>
Sorry to brings this up here but!
Any Java Applets experts here? I need an urgent help on the topic!!! I got some seminar work on university for my "System Software" subject! Thanks! --
CyberDuke _______________________________________________________ Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail duskob@mol.com.mk ICQ# 17392722 _______________________________________________________
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:44:07 -0500 From: "Scott Sturdivant" <scott@erotomania.org> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Philly? Canceled? Message-ID: <000801be4180$363031a0$cf586acf@ckssrs.axiomnet.com>
Went to go buy tickets for the LTE show in Philly and the Ticketfuckingbastardho people told me the show was canceled. So to all you people who are driving from god knows where...don't leave yet! Any other news on this occurence would be appreciated!
Scott.
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:53:20 EST From: AyameYuki@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Funny...i thought i heard a whomping Message-ID: <f1980060.36a0e020@aol.com>
hey...did you guys ever notice on OIALT Disc 1 on Take the Time...that JM plays the notes...but they sound odd ? what type of bass is he using to make such an odd sound ? and also on Just Let Me Breathe in its longetivity...the song is great ( when JM and MP show off with the E-D-E pattern which was AWESOMELY played well )....but what song do they jump into around 9-11 minutes into JLMB ? they start in G i think...anyone know what the title is ? id like to know :)
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:13:42 PST From: "Bill Blanchard" <wildbill2112@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: I pledge allegeance..... Message-ID: <19990116191342.24285.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey guys, Just decided to rant on somethin that happened to me the other night and redeclare my allegeance to DT. =)
I was asked to DJ my friend's 17th B-Day party and me being the nice guy with the good stereo system I am, said yes. Got there, played some good modern stuff (i.e. Third Eye Blind, Goo Goo Dolls) and threw in a little of my stuff (i.e. Rush-Limelight (live)). Once the party began to pick up I played a little rap and hip hop *flame resistant armor ON!* as much as it disgusted me. Everyone was happy except this one click of girls that kept on buggin me and said "play something we can dance to", "this music sux", etc. I PLAYED WILL SMITH FOR CHRIST SAKE!! (I feel so dirty) So a kid came to the party and said "hey I got some pro equipment at home, want me to bring it?" Didn't want to bother with the crap anymore so I said fine and he left to get it. *Bill picks up mike* "Attention everyone. Since we cannot seem to come to an agreement on what we want to hear, you'll be listening to my music. Oh and by the way *gets up on chair and does DX move* S*CK IT!!!!. *bill turns off mike* THEY GOT 20 mins OF THE HEAVIEST DT I HAD WITH ME!!! They got JLMB, BMS, and the Mirror before the other kid showed up. A girl from the click came up to me and goes, "Are you aware that not one person in here wants to here this?" I go, "One person does, (*expletive deleted*)" and gave her half of the peace sign. Elvis has left the building.
"Wild" Bill
"....people will cringe" -JP
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:42:52 -0600 From: Brad Plumb <palpatine@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: octobans,6:00, LTE NY, complaint Message-ID: <2.2.32.19990116194252.0124c814@earthlink.net>
>second, since everybody talks about the intro now, someone might be able >to answer my previous question regarding the grouping of the attacks. I >suggested(not being a drummer) it is 2-3-3-3-3, but would be delighted >to leran the truth.(babadadadabababadadadabababa bumbumtschak)
You're close, as far as I can tell. They're all sixteenth notes but he does divide them into groups of 3. The first grouping of two, however, seems to me to be a ruff. A ruff is a small roll added before beat 1 (that's the best way I can explain it :P). WHen you do rolls you get rebound with both hands. With a ruff you just get the rebound from one hand and hit the down beat with the other. It could also be akin to rolling a grace note.
BrAd PlUmB Co-President of NARF (North Houston Anime Resistance Force) If you live in Houston and you like anime check us out! NARF Homepage: http://students.ou.edu/T/Joshua.R.Tompkins-1/narf/ "Thank God I'm an aetheist" -Luis Bunel "What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New Hope "Perhaps god gave the answers to those with nothing to say"- Savatage: Somewhere in time
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:37:55 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Yes Message-ID: <36A0EA93.B13029AC@mol.com.mk>
> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:45:04 -0600 > From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> > Subject: YES Music > > I was big time into YES starting about 1973. You have no idea how > many of the Top 40 music buying people would say: "How can you > listen to that crap, they don't even know how to keep a good beat"
Ha-ha-ha-ha! :)) Well, they were right, they can't keep it, they swing it, turn it upside down etc..
Hey, for anyone who knows the "Machine Messiah" song from Drama: There's one cool part in the intro (2 seconds), which when you listen it sounds like the LP was turned on faster speed! :) Sounds very cool! Belivee me, if you listen Drama on gramaphone you'll jump to see what happened! :)
> From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org> > Subject: Re: Yes recommendations > > I'd select the one album Jon Anderson isn't on: Drama.
Bah, now that's an awesome album, but what's wrong with Jon Yes albums? :)
IMHO, Fragile is most tasty album!
Yo, who ever asked for recomendation. do not buy the early Yes (first 2 or 3 albums)! That's not it! You can buy them AFTER you get overt the first lesson with the other albums! :)
> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:09:53 -0600 > From: "Christopher Ptacek" <someone@prognosis.com> > > They've done things that I KNOW I could not do without a great > deal of practice... attained some level of mastery over their art. > That means they deserve my respect.
Very true!!! Liking and respecting can be 2 different things! You don't have to like some band but you can respect their work!
Example: I really don't like Pat Metheny cheesy music (especially latest work) burt after I heard his 1-st album "Bright Size Life" I was down on my knees! Man this guy can play! So, he definitely attained my respect, but I still don't like 80% of his work ! But he IS great musician! --
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:10:32 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: They're up now! Message-ID: <000901be418c$4ada4d00$5a0d84d0@default>
Symphony-X, Church of the Machine... http://www.safelink.net/washburn/church_of_the_machine.mp3 Ocean Machine, Voices in the Fan http://www.safelink.net/washburn/voices_in_the_fan.mp3
I still swear, Ocean Machine is the Pink Floyd of the new Millenium. -- KorgX3
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:53:08 PST From: "Trent Thornton" <stairway2kashmir@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: I pledge allegeance..... Message-ID: <19990116205309.13938.qmail@hotmail.com>
Yeah! Hell yeah! You go boy! We need more people like you. Stick to 'em! =)
If I had the balls to do something like that, I'd RULE this world...
Trent
>Hey guys, >Just decided to rant on somethin that happened to me the other night and >redeclare my allegeance to DT. =) > >I was asked to DJ my friend's 17th B-Day party and me being the nice guy >with the good stereo system I am, said yes. Got there, played some good >modern stuff (i.e. Third Eye Blind, Goo Goo Dolls) and threw in a little >of my stuff (i.e. Rush-Limelight (live)). Once the party began to pick >up I played a little rap and hip hop *flame resistant armor ON!* as much >as it disgusted me. Everyone was happy except this one click of girls >that kept on buggin me and said "play something we can dance to", "this >music sux", etc. I PLAYED WILL SMITH FOR CHRIST SAKE!! (I feel so >dirty) So a kid came to the party and said "hey I got some pro equipment >at home, want me to bring it?" Didn't want to bother with the crap >anymore so I said fine and he left to get it. *Bill picks up mike* >"Attention everyone. Since we cannot seem to come to an agreement on >what we want to hear, you'll be listening to my music. Oh and by the >way *gets up on chair and does DX move* S*CK IT!!!!. *bill turns off >mike* THEY GOT 20 mins OF THE HEAVIEST DT I HAD WITH ME!!! They got >JLMB, BMS, and the Mirror before the other kid showed up. A girl from >the click came up to me and goes, "Are you aware that not one person in >here wants to here this?" I go, "One person does, (*expletive deleted*)" >and gave her half of the peace sign. Elvis has left the building. > >"Wild" Bill > >"....people will cringe" -JP > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:45:32 PST From: "Steve Ferris" <stevo_14@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: LTE Tour Message-ID: <19990116214533.18887.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey all, If you want LTE shows to be put on tape SEND IN A LETTER TO THE LIST. Maybe if we get enough something will happen. Say "YES" to LTE.
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:02:23 EST From: YtseSryche@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Not to be another jerk, but I gotta say it Message-ID: <353a3530.36a10c6f@aol.com>
Hey, I just wanna say how i'm equally disappointed to not see LTE in chicago. Not only am I incredibly far away from New York or LA, but even Chicago is hard to get to for a 15 year old without knowing any other progressive fans (and not having very understanding parents!). I've just started getting into prog over the past two years, and LTE was one of the biggest contributions to my music collection. This isn't supposed to be some whiny letter begging for a concert, I'm just saying I'm not sure it was wisest move to skip over the central portion of the country without even stopping to laugh at the fact that we aren't gonna get to see some of the most talented musicians in the world playing some rockin' songs. I just wanted to let whoever cares know how much of a bummer this is to myself and all the other itsy-bitsy-ytse jammers with no car, no money, and no flight. This bites, I totally coulda gotten this chick I like to go with me.... damn! I keep telling myself there'll be more concerts.... but you never do know....
"quit whining and just go to the damn concert" -dad TonyC P.S. All this stuff I read about bootleg trading, well... I want some bootlegs but I've got nothing to trade (except the old WOWOW concert that my cousin made for me.... hehe). How do I get started on trading? please e-mail me the answer, I feel like I'm missing out!!! thanks
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:43:49 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: They're up now! Message-ID: <199901162243.OAA07938@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., "Korg Ecksthrey" thus begged: > >I still swear, Ocean Machine is the Pink Floyd of the new Millenium.
Actually, Devin's guitar playing is almost like a heavier Def Leppard it seems...
>-- >KorgX3
-The Doc
-- > drkhoe@gmsnet.com > http://progmetal.gmsnet.com > Windows will rule the world... and one day, you'll have to reboot the entire > thing cause it'll crash.
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:05:17 EST From: IceQD@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: In Support of Female Musos ...... Message-ID: <e5e1d4eb.36a11b2d@aol.com>
In a message dated 1/16/99 6:21:45PM, 'someone' wrote:
>People should look into some more cats...
I like cats, especially toy ones that you don't have to feed ...
I would like to say now that I find it very tiresome to see the attacks that have been going on against a certain person called 'Ayame Yuki' on this list. Whether this person is a 'spoof' member of the list or not is irrelevant. SOME people seem to think that this person is young and female. This may well be true and, if it is so, she doesn't need the comments recently made by a certain 'Someone'.
It is difficult enough to make your away in the music business as a FEMALE without 'someone' picking on you. Often there are several 'someones' (usually MALE). Personally I always 'speak my mind' to these people (sometimes just by DOING things BETTER than they do). We female musicians have to encounter enough misogyny along the way WITHOUT having it fostered on this list.
Thank You.
ICE BABY
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:16:34 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: LTE Tour Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9901162112420.21239-100000@jaca>
On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Steve Ferris wrote:
> If you want LTE shows to be put on tape SEND IN A LETTER TO THE LIST. > Maybe if we get enough something will happen. > Say "YES" to LTE.
Maybe if we get enough, the mail exchangers of Ytsejam will be swamped with "almost spam" messages.
If you do want something, please do something well organized, methodically.
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:43:31 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: MP3s / DT in the studio Message-ID: <36A12423.42149F98@home.com>
AL wrote (in reference to the Andrew Coutermarsh situation). > I have purchased dozens of CD's as a result of previewing MP3 files. > > And several of my purchases have trickled down to friends in the form > of another CD purchase.
Brother AL speaks the absolute truth. Here's some recent examples.....
Somebody sent AL an MP3 of Vanden Plas' "You Fly". AL loves it, and decides to order it. AL thinks I'd like VP, and sends me the MP3 (thanks AL!) . I love it, and ordered it. Hell, I'm sure I'll end up ordering their two other discs (AcCult and Colour Temple), too. Maybe AL will also. ONE MP3 = TWO CD SALES (and counting..... potentially 6+)
It works the other way too..... Somebody (Carlos Alfaro, thanks!) sent me two Pain of Salvation MP3s that really blew me away. I'm gonna order both of their CDs (as soon as they're back in stock at the Laser's Edge). I sent the MP3s to AL, and he'll probably get the CDs too.
These are only two recent examples (of many), by the way.
Moral of the story: Please quit jumping all over Andrew Coutermarsh's back!
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> > they *are* going into the studio in February. :)
Josh S. asked: > I heard rumors of this... Is it actually true though?
Yeah. Check out UaCM for the lowdown.........
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- Joe D. aka Magellan jdeangelo@home.com ICQ # 1872723 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I swear on tomorrow- If you take this chance- Our lives are this moment The music, the dance- And here in this labyrinth- Of lost mysteries I close my eyes on this night- And you're all that I see - Savatage, from "Not What You See" -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:23:09 -0500 From: Craig Griffith <tarkus@softhome.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: In Support of Female Musos ...... Message-ID: <36A12D6C.2DB2572@softhome.net>
IceQD@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 1/16/99 6:21:45PM, 'someone' wrote: > > >People should look into some more cats... > > I like cats, especially toy ones that you don't have to feed ... > > I would like to say now that I find it very tiresome to see the attacks that > have been going on against a certain person called 'Ayame Yuki' on this list. > Whether this person is a 'spoof' member of the list or not is irrelevant. > SOME people seem to think that this person is young and female. This may well > be true and, if it is so, she doesn't need the comments recently made by a > certain 'Someone'. > > It is difficult enough to make your away in the music business as a FEMALE > without 'someone' picking on you. Often there are several 'someones' (usually > MALE). Personally I always 'speak my mind' to these people (sometimes just by > DOING things BETTER than they do). We female musicians have to encounter > enough misogyny along the way WITHOUT having it fostered on this list.
]From what I saw, this has very little to do with misogyny, but rather with disrespect for immaturity. Bickering over a chord, exchanging insults, and offering one's opinion as the definitive with little to back it up are fairly immature things to do, and Ayame has done them all. I personally believe in equality of the sexes, but immaturity is one thing I stand against in others in a public forum and I try to eliminate from myself. This also has little to do with age. I'm a young jammer myself (16) and so to condemn people my age would be rather hypocritical. It seems to mostly have to do with what the jam is becoming, has become, or will become, which is to say that many Ytsejammers don't particularly relish the thought of it being an immature, flame-bait list.
-- Craig Griffith: High school student, guitar player, King of Craigland http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/8509/ "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" -Ian Anderson
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:53:57 PST From: "Trent Thornton" <stairway2kashmir@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: MP3s / DT in the studio Message-ID: <19990117005358.12639.qmail@hotmail.com>
My example doesn't compare with your story, but here it is anyway- the stereo in my car was busted for a long time, so that meant no tunes while driving. No radio. And I don't listen to the radio much when at home (what's the point, that's where my CDs are!). So, I downloaded Alanis Morissette's (then) new single "Thank U" which would be released in stores in a few weeks, then a few months after that, the album itself would be released. Listening to that song, I decided to buy the album when it came out b/c I liked the mp3 so much. mp3s are good for the music industry I think. Besides, anyone who's devoted enough to a band to track down their mp3 stuff on the web will buy the CD, natch. mp3s are the best thing to happen to the music industry in a long time, IMHO.
!Trent
>AL wrote (in reference to the Andrew Coutermarsh situation). >> I have purchased dozens of CD's as a result of previewing MP3 files. >> >> And several of my purchases have trickled down to friends in the form >> of another CD purchase. > >Brother AL speaks the absolute truth. Here's some recent examples..... > >Somebody sent AL an MP3 of Vanden Plas' "You Fly". AL loves it, and >decides to order it. AL thinks I'd like VP, and sends me the MP3 >(thanks AL!) . I love it, and ordered it. >Hell, I'm sure I'll end up ordering their two other discs (AcCult and >Colour Temple), too. Maybe AL will also. >ONE MP3 = TWO CD SALES (and counting..... potentially 6+) > >It works the other way too..... Somebody (Carlos Alfaro, thanks!) sent >me two Pain of Salvation MP3s that really blew me away. I'm gonna order >both of their CDs (as soon as they're back in stock at the Laser's >Edge). I sent the MP3s to AL, and he'll probably get the CDs too. > >These are only two recent examples (of many), by the way. > >Moral of the story: Please quit jumping all over Andrew Coutermarsh's >back! > >--------- > >> > they *are* going into the studio in February. :) > >Josh S. asked: >> I heard rumors of this... Is it actually true though? > >Yeah. Check out UaCM for the lowdown......... > >-- > >- Joe D. aka Magellan > jdeangelo@home.com ICQ # 1872723 >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >I swear on tomorrow- If you take this chance- Our lives are this moment >The music, the dance- And here in this labyrinth- Of lost mysteries >I close my eyes on this night- And you're all that I see >- Savatage, from "Not What You See" >-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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