YTSEJAM Digest 4579
Today's Topics:
1) she's a rockin lead singer
by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
2) Re: she's a rockin lead singer
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
3) Female musicians
by Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au>
4) Re: Dairy Queen
by "Trent Thornton" <stairway2kashmir@hotmail.com>
5) RE:DT/LTE tour complaints
by jay <darwin@lvcablemodem.com>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4578
by "Denis" <voxman@snet.net>
7) St. Louis boot
by Jeff Perrot <jperrot@siue.edu>
8) chick singers No DTC
by "Nick Guadagnoli" <progrockboy@linkline.com>
9) DT Zep show anybody?
by Keith Lambert <lambertk@felixstowe.rms.slb.com>
10) winger
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
11) gordion knot
by "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com>
12) RE: YTSEJAM digest 4562
by "Suplizio, Jim" <Jim.Suplizio@GSC.GTE.Com>
13) Wimmin
by "Neil Gallop" <nga@software-ag.de>
14) LL
by "Anderson, Brian D" <BAnderson@sdms.usa.xerox.com>
15) Dutch translation
by Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk>
16) Re: MP3s / DT in the studio
by Chris Livingstone <Chris.Livingstone@wolfson.co.uk>
17) yo mama
by Dave M Klint <davek@csh.rit.edu>
18) RE: YTSEJAM digest 4562
by TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu>
19) Re: madonna ciccone
by Peter Tatischev <tatisch@null.net>
20) Re: Original vs. Pirate CDs
by Peter Tatischev <tatisch@null.net>
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:49:16 -0500
From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: she's a rockin lead singer
Message-ID: <36A2CB5B.7C3A38D2@bigfoot.com>
Skunk Anansi. It's the only rock band i've ever heard, maybe the only
that exists, with a black, female, frontman. And they fairly rock. They
have a great song on the Strange Days soundtrack, which is the best
thing to come out of that movie aside from the trailers.
-- Joshua Rasiel jrasi@bigfoot.com www.j51.com/~mrasiel "Shop Smart. Shop...S-Mart!"------------------------------
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:54:02 -0500 From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: she's a rockin lead singer Message-ID: <000c01be42a6$f36f13e0$3a1110ac@DEMCCOR.clemson.edu>
]From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com> Subject: she's a rockin lead singer
>Skunk Anansi. It's the only rock band i've ever heard, maybe the only >that exists, with a black, female, frontman. And they fairly rock. They
wow, any band managing to have a female frontman is an impressive achievement. no wonder you haven't seen that many. moo.
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" When I feel like no one feels like what I say has any place in their world, I just like to point at them, laugh, and take off my pants." -KorgX3
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:52:45 +1100 From: Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Female musicians Message-ID: <36A2CC2C.ACC5A0FF@ozemail.com.au>
2 more female muscicains: Marilyn Manson, not sure what she plays, probably better not guess on this family orientated mailing list............
Boy George, who can ever forget the classic Culture Club days of the mid 1980's, I think she played the drum(mer)
gaz
www.ozemail.com.au/~ytsejam
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:02:16 PST From: "Trent Thornton" <stairway2kashmir@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Dairy Queen Message-ID: <19990118060217.29620.qmail@hotmail.com>
>I'm sorry, but I only know of ONE rock >guitarist with two X chromosomes who is that noteworthy (Batten) and I'd pay >to see her in a SECOND if she came to town. > >Have a nice day. > >- Chris
Well you mentioned Bonnie Raitt and she can play slide guitar like nobody's business, but she's the only female guitarist I know of that's worth a damn. I haven't looked, but there you go.
Trent
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:23:28 -0800 From: jay <darwin@lvcablemodem.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: RE:DT/LTE tour complaints Message-ID: <4.1.19990117222024.00f9ce80@pop3>
The one time I did have a chance to see DT without traveling 5 hours plus, I thought would be during the Deep Purple tour. I went to get the tickets for the show right when tickets went on sale. I was so disappointed that DT and ELP skipped that date. Deep Purple really sucked that night. Couldn't understand a thing and the sound was pretty shitty too. Jay
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:39:22 -0500 From: "Denis" <voxman@snet.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4578 Message-ID: <007501be42ad$49b49760$dd21fea9@djl>
-----Original Message----- ]From: ytsejam@ax.com <ytsejam@ax.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 12:04 AM Subject: YTSEJAM digest 4578
Speaking as a male guitarist, I would be knocked on my ASS to see a >female rock guitarist who could play on the level of a John Petrucci. I'm sorry, but I only know of ONE rock >guitarist with two X chromosomes who is that noteworthy (Batten) and I'd pay >to see her in a SECOND if she came to town. > >Have a nice day. > >- Chris
Two words for ya buddy - Vora Vor! Now you know of TWO rock guitarists with two X chromosomes who kick ass! Yours In Music, Denis
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:52:56 -0600 From: Jeff Perrot <jperrot@siue.edu> To: Ytsejammers <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: St. Louis boot Message-ID: <36A2DA47.B8FEC6B0@siue.edu>
Does anyone have a recording (tape or cd) of the 11/10/94 show in St. Louis? I have lots of stuff I can trade for, so let me know.
Thanks, Jeff
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:00:55 -0800 From: "Nick Guadagnoli" <progrockboy@linkline.com> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: chick singers No DTC Message-ID: <000801be42b8$b1210720$9f54c998@progrockboy>
as far as Female singers are concerned I think I would dig working on a prog project with a decently (and musically agile) female singer... preferably NOT a soprano... there is just NO call for that... True sopranos hit notes that cats frown upon... and I just don't want to piss my cat (Cosmo Kramer) off... He's big enough to kill me for it.
I just played a gig with two of my San Francisco friends this past friday... They gave me *one* week to learn their two and a half hour set of acid jazz/progressive/noisecore material... Basically it was six months of rehearsal crammed into six days...
here's the setlist-- reads like the liner card on a David Torn album: 1) (my only contribution to the written material) The Return of Prog Rock Boy 2) Checkmate 3) Isosceles Miscellaneous 4) Grandma's House 5) Futon Shop 6) Satan's Dentist 7) Track Number Four 8) Excessive and Spontaneous Indulgence of Musical Egos
thank you, please drive through. --Nikko the bass playing clown http://www.linkline.com/personal/progrockboy/
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:27:47 +0000 From: Keith Lambert <lambertk@felixstowe.rms.slb.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: DT Zep show anybody? Message-ID: <3.0.32.19990118092741.00709384@felixstowe.rms.slb.com>
Hey Jammers,
Does anybody have a decent recording of one of the recent Zep medleys and/or DT's rendition of 'Since I've Been Loving You'? I'm still dying to hear this.
Please get in touch if you feel like trading.
Thanks....Keith.
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:19:49 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: winger Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F3A3F@ms.kallback.com>
> Winger! Is that something you put in the player as a reminder of why > you purchased the other five? What's the Kipster doing these days? > After Winger, he put out a solo cd called This Conversation Feels Like a Dream. Then he released an unplugged greatest hits called Made by Hand. Both are very good (IMO). I don't know what he's been up to since then.
Trevor ODTC-Winger's drummer was Rod, who played with Rudess, who auditioned for DT.
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 04:14:48 PST From: "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: gordion knot Message-ID: <19990118121448.23576.qmail@hotmail.com>
neener neener neener i've had my copy for a good month :) and let me tell you ... if there was ever an album that a prog/fusion fan couldn't live without it's this one!!! it rocks!
inferno
>How many of you jammerz are going to purchase the Gordion Knot cd >tomorrow, at least I am pretty sure it comes out tomorrow. Doesn't >our very own John Myung contribute to a coupla trax? > >Later all
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 07:24:02 -0500 From: "Suplizio, Jim" <Jim.Suplizio@GSC.GTE.Com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 4562 Message-ID: <C5B7060FE2DCD011A8730060B01A6244983C90@mail.rtp.gtegsc.com>
schulze2@mindspring.com posted --- A common line of thought here in this list is that because we like a certain type of music it makes us better than other people. Wake up. There's very smart people that like Nirvana, Savage Garden, Madonna, . Music is just something that is made for enjoyment and fun. Some people get it to the point of religion (these are not direct quotes of course): a) "we must convert others to DT!"=20 b) "I like such and such bands and everything else is just crap!"=20 c) "I need to find a girl that is into DT" (sounds to me like "I need to find a girl that goes to my church") d) "we must enlighten those who only listen to pop" e) "techno, grunge, industrial and dance will go away, but metal is eternal"=20
"Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness" - Chinese proverb.
In short, my point is: one might not agree with other people's musical tastes, but one should never say they're inferior or stupid or just not enlightened because they disagree in opinion. Unless one is in 2nd grade of course, then I guess one is still allowed. ---
Sorry this post is a little late, I've been bedridden for past week from a really nasty flu. Christian, I have to agree 100% with you on this one. I'm into way more than just DT (though DT is a staple in my musical diet). I have CDs that I like all over the musical spectrum from Loreena McKennitt to Morbid Angel. It is all a matter of what people like and what people will spend their own hard earned money for.
Jim
"What reward is a banquet of red wine and bread, when you hunger for life but on death you are fed?" - M. Walkyer - The Best of Enemies (Wulf's Tale)
Jim Suplizio
jim.suplizio@gsc.gte.com 919-549-7927
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:55:49 +0100 From: "Neil Gallop" <nga@software-ag.de> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Wimmin Message-ID: <000501be42e1$df4c58b0$2fa1bd9d@pcnga.software-ag.de>
Hi all
ah, the joys of receiving lots of digests of the Bitch-Jam on a Monday morning. But here are my 2 Euro cents on the subject of wimmin in music:
1. A guitar is just a phallic symbol. No wonder that not many women want to get their hands on such a blatantly sexist object. The neck of the guitar is obviously intended for penetration, and the act of sliding your hand up and down the neck is just too reminiscent of the act of male masturbation. As for drummers trying to symbolically batter their way through an ersatz hymen with long stiff things in their hands... Did somebody say "organ"?
2. Tori Amos - a matter of taste. I've got taste and she doesn't matter.
3. D'Arcy - the intelligent man's bimbo.
4. Drain - simply a good band.
5. Rock Bitch - pornos for college kids.
6. My final musings on this one - how come you don't see many transsexual boy bands around these days? When I was a kid...
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:54:50 -0500 From: "Anderson, Brian D" <BAnderson@sdms.usa.xerox.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: LL Message-ID: <BF85F885643CD21188230008C756293515E036@crte128-2.wrc.xerox.com>
I was catching up on Jams and I saw this . . .
> 2. I saw L.L. Cool J's "Mama said Knock You Out" MTV Unplugged and > sat there on the floor with my jaw hanging. Never before had I heard > anything on MTV just friggin' ***GROOVE*** like that. He was, by far, the > best Unplugged they ever had.
I'll give a big Amen to that. I think it was the only time they had the crowd at an unplugged show up on their feet dancing like crazy. I still have a crappy VHS tape of that show, and I watch it every once in a while. Gives me a little chill every time 'cause it was so cool.
-Brian Anderson
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:56:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk> To: YtseJam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Dutch translation Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-0118135606-bc8rZWN@mor.apsoft.co.uk>
Could a Dutch-speaking jammer please go to:
http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/floyd/32/DT140497.htm
and translate the first paragraph into English? I hate being talked about and not knowing what it means! It's Bart's review of the DT gig in Amsterdam in April '97.
Does he mention the flower stall? ;-)
Graham
-- Graham Borland Email : gborland@apsoft.co.uk WWW : http://www.apsoft.co.uk Alternative Publishing Ltd Tel : 0141 418 0881 30 Clyde Place, Glasgow G5 8AQ Fax : 0141 418 0889
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:15:55 +0000 From: Chris Livingstone <Chris.Livingstone@wolfson.co.uk> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: MP3s / DT in the studio Message-ID: <36A3421B.D1204035@wolfson.co.uk>
But I only have a 2.1 gig hard drive set asidce for program files, documents, and MP3s (I recently acquired a 515 MB drive from a friend so that I could put my games on that), of which my MP3sx consist about
Try vqf (www.vqf.com), better quality and better compression than mp3 (approx 30 - 40% smaller than mp3). You can download players, encoders etc from the site.
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:19:55 -0500 From: Dave M Klint <davek@csh.rit.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: yo mama Message-ID: <199901181419.JAA27276@elwood.csh.rit.edu>
Just to throw in my shave and a haircut (2 bits), Tori Amos rocks the house, ok people? If you appreciate any sort of music that makes your head trip, Tori is awesome.
Alright, for some DTC, I have a question to all of the virtuoso guitarist out on this list. Last week I _finally_ had 30 extra dollars and went out and bought OiaLT, and I can say that it lives up to all the hype. But the question that I have after purchasing every single on of my DT albums is the same: how the f*ck does Petrucci play like that? I'm only been playing guitar for about a year, and I know that there's no "trick" to be able to play that fast, but like when he's playing flight of the bumble bee, is he playing that on one string? When he does the kick-ass guitar/keyboard ending to TTT, is he double picking every note? And when he does a pull off, is he plucking the string with his left hand? Someone care to help out a guitarist that sucks?
Also, if anyone's going to the LTE show and is coming down from Maine or perhaps from Boston (I'm in Durham, New Hampshire), I _desperatly_ need a ride. I would pay much cash to see this show. Oh, and what's the word on the cancelation of the Philly show? Anyone?
-davek
NP: pissing off other people at the office by cranking OinLT.
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:27:24 -0500 (EST) From: TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 4562 Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990118102438.1857A-100000@hubcap.clemson.edu>
> From: "Suplizio, Jim" <Jim.Suplizio@GSC.GTE.Com> > Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 4562 > > Music is just something that is made for enjoyment and fun. Some people > get it to the point of religion (these are not direct quotes of course):
hell yeah, and i think it's about time for a jihad. hehe. kidding. i agree. although i'd really like to find a chick that liked DT as much as i did. man, it would rock ass to find a girl that was an awesome guitarist... if anyone ever says "hey you're not bad" i'd love to just say "you should hear my girlfriend." haha, that would rock. not that anyone says that to me very often, but hey, its not like i'm gonna find a girl that plays rockin guitar either :) moo.
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:31:07 +0300 From: Peter Tatischev <tatisch@null.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: madonna ciccone Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990118183107.00924ec0@messagebox.com>
> >hey jammers, > >i totally agree MADONNA KICKS ASS! i would like to attempt play ray of light >( but..then again....the song is 24 hours in 5 minutes...i wouldnt want time >to slow down for me ; ) ) > Yeah!!! I am another person to confirm this! She's great!! Though I still like Tori's 'from the chirgirl hotel' more than 'ray of light' - I must admit that all those techno-things she used there sound really cool! I've never been a techno-fan, but I do accept techno, if it's done on a high-quality level, and some songs on ray of light are of the highest quality, though some of them sound a bit too straightforward to the album... ~Pete ========================================================== The maintainer of the YtseJamCD Project site: http://www.glasnet.ru/~tatisch/Ytze IRC: Hammman ICQ:425-8962 ===========================================================
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:26:10 +0300 From: Peter Tatischev <tatisch@null.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Original vs. Pirate CDs Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990118182610.00920690@messagebox.com>
> >YO MAN I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >Buddy of mine just called me to inform that .... ready? ..... the >Bulgarians "released" OIALT!!!! Don't buy it, pal!!! I can tell you OIALT on a pirate CD has the worst quality I've ever heard, not to mention that the artwork is poor as shit!!! and an original CD is well worth the money! >I might said once the politica of Bulgarian pirates: They make pirate >CDs of popular stuff, Take That, Best Queen etc., but by NO WAY you can >find there Return To Forever - Romantic Warrior or stuff like that! >Because it's not easy money, and they KNOW for sure Take That will sell >out! Celine Dion too etc. > >So, this OIALT stuff has bad and good side: > >Bad side: The bootleg itself >Good side: Let us ask the question: WHY they copied OIALT??? Does this >mean DT are becoming well-known? > >Believe me guys, I know my country and all the crappy situation in music >here, so a Bulgarian OAILT really seems very odd! Ok, I'll say that the situation is generally the same with those pirate CD's here in Russia, though they claim that those CD's are legally copyrighted and stuff, but that's only for the sake of the word, and the artist gets no money nonetheless. My friend and I were greatkly surpised to know that pirates released ALOT of jazy CD's - everything from Coltrane, to Patitucci, to Stanley Clarke, to Grapelli... Pick any jazzist and you won't miss it!!!! we were so damn surprised by this fact!!! We saw thousands of records like that!!! Of course, of they released jazz, they did release LTE, BLS and other obvious stuff from Magna Carta + all Vai's CD's (including Leftovers and Angelica) nad ALL RUSH cds!!! And I must confess that I did buy a lot of these CD's... but, hey, if my salary is like $50 a month I can't get to buy a CD $20 worth, can I?!
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