YTSEJAM Digest 4581
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Female Singers and Victor
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
2) Fwd: Official Dream Theater Press Release
by KyleTaraG@aol.com
3) Official *and* hot news
by Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
4) Re: Derek's Leaving
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
5) Speaking of female vocalists...
by MaxArbot@aol.com
6) derek gone...jordan in!
by "Scott Sturdivant" <scott@erotomania.org>
7) huh? what?
by "Paul T. Fini" <fini@engineering.ucsb.edu>
8) Chick Metal
by Awake77@aol.com
9)
by jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk)
10) Re: Official Dream Theater Press Release
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
11) Changing of the Keyboardist
by MaxArbot@aol.com
12) RE: Philly? Canceled?
by "Emerson, Michael J." <memerson@mail.PWCG.com>
13) Female guitarist on the Yngwie level!
by Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu>
14) Blargh!
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
15) Re: Official Dream Theater Press Release
by Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
16) Ptacek - CCCC & gordion knot
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
17) Females... oh, and that other little snippet of news...
by Dave Ware <dware@walker.com>
18) Re: Gaz, you are *mistaken*
by Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com>
19) Re: Official Dream Theater Press Release
by "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:11:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
To: JE78674@ltu.edu
Subject: Re: Female Singers and Victor
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9901181610260.11373-100000@typhoon.ocis.temple.edu>
> Just in case none of you heard yet, Sarah McLachlan will be guest
> appearing on the upcoming Alex Lifeson project, Victor. Unfortunately,
> Edwin will be returning to do the vocals again.
You might wanna check your source for that. According to the last
internet chat, Alex has stated that there will be no (for now, at least)
follow-up to Victor.
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:21:12 EST
From: KyleTaraG@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Fwd: Official Dream Theater Press Release
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uhmmm....wow.
<< January 18th, 1999
For immediate release:
Dream Theater changes keyboard player
It is with much personal sadness that Dream Theater announce their decision
to part ways with keyboardist Derek Sherinian.
Drummer Mike Portnoy: "Derek's contributions to the band both musically and
personally over the last 4 years is something that we will always treasure and
we will all miss.
He will always be a part of the Dream Theater family."
"With the recent release of our live CD & video, it seemed the right time to
close this chapter and begin a new one..."
His replacement will be Jordan Rudess, who was once a touring member of the
Dregs and has recently collaborated with Mike Portnoy & John Petrucci in their
Liquid Tension Experiment project.
"After our experiences of working with Jordan in LTE, we came to the decision
that his playing, writing and personality was more representative of where we
would like to take Dream Theater into the 21st century."
"We wish for nothing but the best in the world for Derek as we hope to always
remain friends with him. We're sure that he will continue to succeed in the
music business as he always has, and wish him luck with whomever he decides to
play with next." >>
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Subject: Official Dream Theater Press Release
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:02:21 EST
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January 18th, 1999
For immediate release:
Dream Theater changes keyboard player
It is with much personal sadness that Dream Theater announce their decision to
part ways with keyboardist Derek Sherinian.
Drummer Mike Portnoy: "Derek's contributions to the band both musically and
personally over the last 4 years is something that we will always treasure and
we will all miss.
He will always be a part of the Dream Theater family."
"With the recent release of our live CD & video, it seemed the right time to
close this chapter and begin a new one..."
His replacement will be Jordan Rudess, who was once a touring member of the
Dregs and has recently collaborated with Mike Portnoy & John Petrucci in their
Liquid Tension Experiment project.
"After our experiences of working with Jordan in LTE, we came to the decision
that his playing, writing and personality was more representative of where we
would like to take Dream Theater into the 21st century."
"We wish for nothing but the best in the world for Derek as we hope to always
remain friends with him. We're sure that he will continue to succeed in the
music business as he always has, and wish him luck with whomever he decides to
play with next."
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:33:59 +0100
From: Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Official *and* hot news
Message-ID: <v04020a01b2c957e3d4cb@[194.8.195.32]>
Hey people!
If you want official *and* hot news (pun intended), go to the URL below --
if you can read German...
If you can't, visit http://www.dreamtheater.net for the press release or
watch the Jam very carefully. I bet someone has posted this already (I'm in
digest mode) and I want to avoid duplicates.
Anyway, it has to do with Dream Theater and Jordan Rudess. Go figure.
Steffen
-- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@westend.com) THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.westend.com/TheMirror)------------------------------
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:33:00 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Derek's Leaving Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990118162954.3892A-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
Wow. What a shock. I must say that I was just getting used to the idea of having Derek as the keyboardist (I was really starting to like his style). It's really too bad that he's leaving. However, obtaining Jordan Rudess as DT's keyboardist (something that several people wondered why DT hadn't done in the first place) is a great career move for them. Rudess is a great choice IMO, though I haven't heard much of him at all. I support DT's decisions (not that it matters to them much anyway ;) ), and I am anxious to find out what additions Rudess is going to make when DT goes into the studios again next month.
NP: "The Prince of Egypt" Soundtrack
------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu http://oz.plymouth.edu/~a_couter/ ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------- "In the New Year, hold your right hand out always in friendship, but never in want." -- Irish toast -------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:35:10 EST From: MaxArbot@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Speaking of female vocalists... Message-ID: <a7b0d59c.36a3a90e@aol.com>
Have you guys/gals ever tried listening to any DT with the plug-in for WinAMP called Pitchfork (or any other pitch bender)? If you'll just do it about 20%-25%, it makes LaBrie sound like a woman. Let me know what you think...
[eriC]
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:33:59 -0500 From: "Scott Sturdivant" <scott@erotomania.org> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: derek gone...jordan in! Message-ID: <000b01be432a$44b124e0$cf586acf@ckssrs.axiomnet.com>
Well, I'm just a fan of all the keyboard players DT has had...Kev was the man, Derek did add a lot of "fun" to the visual side of a DT performance...but with Jordan, DT is just gonna rock! My predictions for the next DT album is for there to be some incredibly intricate PROGRESSIVE playing. As Syrinx has pointed out before, Derek was a rock keyboardist, in a prog band. I think Jordan will do a lot for OFB. For all those who did download that sound clip of Jordan playing TTT, you know what I'm talking about. The man is simply, insane.
I'm *very* interested in everyone elses opinions on this matter...
Scott.
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:40:55 -0700 From: "Paul T. Fini" <fini@engineering.ucsb.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: huh? what? Message-ID: <v03102801b2c94b6f3a52@[128.111.29.61]>
>January 18th, 1999 >For immediate release: > >Dream Theater changes keyboard player > >It is with much personal sadness that Dream Theater announce their decision to >part ways with keyboardist Derek Sherinian.
Huh? What? Please tell us this is an early April Fool's joke, Mike... I know Derek has always had mixed support from 'jammers, but everyone has to agree that Derek was a real contributor to DT's sound, especially live. Plus, as Al mentioned (and I've stated repeatedly in the past), he really brought a lot to their live performances in general - helping creating an environment of fun as well as musicianship. This is starting to sound like a eulogy or something, but I just need to vent.
I look forward to seeing what kind of contribution Jordan will bring to the band, but please let me see no cheering of Derek's departure - that would truly be in bad taste.
Paul
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:38:14 EST From: Awake77@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Chick Metal Message-ID: <c786e6f4.36a3a9c6@aol.com>
Hey... Isnt John Petrucci's wife a musician? Wasnt she in the all-girl metal band "MeanStreak" or something like that? Now THERES a lucky guy:) -Chris
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:39:24 -0500 From: jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Message-ID: <v01540b03b2c9130917cb@[128.197.8.229]>
>>>Speaking as a male guitarist, I would be knocked on my ASS to see a female >rock guitarist who could play on the level of a John Petrucci. > >Well, you guys should check Shrapnel's Phantom Blue, their guitar players >Nichole Couch and Michelle Meldrum, were quite good - true shredders, it's >a shame it was only released on vinyl. I was just about to add Phantom Blue to this discussion when I came across this message. However, I'd like to add that Phantom Blue's first album was the only one available on Shrapnel. Their second, _Built to Perform_, is on Geffen. That includes Karen Kreutzer on guitar instead of Couch, as well as Meldrum. It also includes a solo from Marty Friedman and another one from John Norum (who would become Michelle Meldrum's husband). None of the above three guitarists are in the band anymore; the guitarists are now Josephine (that's it) and Tina Wood. From what I can tell, they both rawk (they haven't done a whole lot with Tina Wood yet, but they've been in the studio). I _highly_ recommend this band to anyone who likes melodic hard rock/metal in the vain of Thin Lizzy and Black Sabbath (both of whom they've covered). For more information: www.phantomblue.com. (You can even get the above-mentioned Shrapnel debut release on CD there.)
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:46:55 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Official Dream Theater Press Release Message-ID: <002801be432c$18be4fa0$0201010a@chuck>
>Dream Theater changes keyboard player
As far as I can tell from the header it's 100% legit. And that REALLY pisses me off. Granted, Jordan is one hell of a keyboard player, but I've gotten used to the idea of Derek actually being a true member of DT, and it pisses me off to hear that he's out as much as I was with Kevin leaving. What the fuck is this? Musical DT Chairs? *grumbles* Sorry, Portnoy420@aol.com, but I don't support this move in the least. :(
Sorry. Much venting to do, and I'll take it elsewhere. -- KorgX3
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:48:34 EST From: MaxArbot@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Changing of the Keyboardist Message-ID: <e2720020.36a3ac32@aol.com>
Ohh...uh...
::slack-jawed::
I didn't see this coming...
[eriC]
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:55:17 -0500 From: "Emerson, Michael J." <memerson@mail.PWCG.com> To: Under A Glass Ytse <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: RE: Philly? Canceled? Message-ID: <BDBBCD37EA65D1119E9600A0C9982D75AB51FC@mail.pwcg.com>
Went to go buy tickets for the LTE show in Philly and the Ticketfuckingbastardho people told me the show was canceled. So to all you people who are driving from god knows where...don't leave yet! Any other news on this occurence would be appreciated!
Scott.
i just called the venue in Philly, and they told me that another show on the 22nd was cancelled, and LTE got put into that spot...
hope this clarifies things...
mikE ____________________________________________________________
"May God stand between you and harm In all the empty places where you must walk..."
"Into the morning sun / Down his chosen road, he rides to save the world / Cross of crimson, robe of white / Sworn to the quest for the rest of his life..." Symphony X - "The Accolade"
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:16:35 -0500 From: Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Female guitarist on the Yngwie level! Message-ID: <36A3B2C3.80831DDC@ic3.ithaca.edu>
You guys wanna hear a NASTY female guitar player who is definitely better than Yngwie or even Petrucci? Check out the Great Kat. She graduated from Juliard with highest honors for her violin playing and then moved to guitar. She's pretty much a female Yngwie clone but she plays faster than anyone I've ever heard with the possible exception of Robert Fripp. The music is similar to Yngwie's as well. Paganini, Beethoven, Bach, etc. combined with metal guitar. Her official website is
Check her out. It defnitely proves that males don't have some special natural gift that allows them to be WAY better on the guitar than women.
Chris - "We buy fresh bagels from the corner store Where swastikas are spat from aerosols I sit in the bar sipping iced white russians trying to score but nobody's pushing and everyone looks at everyone's faces searching for signs and praying for traces of a conscience in residence, we are sitting on a barbed wire fence...chasing the clouds home."
- Marillion '87
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:13:40 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Blargh! Message-ID: <001801be432f$d3a54460$0201010a@chuck>
>What the fuck is this? Musical DT Chairs? *grumbles* Sorry, >Portnoy420@aol.com, but I don't support this move in the least. :(
Grrr... I'd like to apologize for that stupid outburst. It's probably the last thing Mike and the gang would like to hear at this point, and it was just selfishness induced by shock that pressed the send button on that one. :) Although I disagree with it right now, I'm sure I'll get over it. hehehe. Jordan rules and I'm sure everyone had their reasons (perhaps some we don't want to know of) for the exchange. Now, with Jordan, let's see where DT will take us (but come on guys, you could have had TWO kickass keyboardists!) :D
10-4 and stuff... -- KorgX3 would like some ketchup with his foot.
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:19:31 +0100 From: Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Official Dream Theater Press Release Message-ID: <36A3B373.83E9E57E@stones.com>
>Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:54:03 EST >From: Portnoy420@aol.com >To: Ytsejam@axnet.net >Subject: Official Dream Theater Press Release >Message-ID: <afb34561.36a3915b@aol.com>
can somone trace this imposter so we can all bomb the hell out of his email?
Matej - offering a reward on their head
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:22:07 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Ptacek - CCCC & gordion knot Message-ID: <36A3B40F.D62349BB@isd.net>
Greetings fellow Jamsters.
Chris Ptacek:
I thought I'd let you know that your message about respecting all music genres did not fall on deaf ears. ..err, eyes. :) I have heard some Rap material I found entertaining; This doesn't mean I'm going to run out and purchase the newest CD from "Mookie & the Gansta Kilt Lifters" I'll simply tell people that some music is not my cup of tea.
On the other hand...
90% of the Rap music my 16 year old daughter plays makes me want to hurl. Having a 16 year old female, hear in repetition "Youz bitches only gots one use" repulses me. But, since MTV says it's cool, she has accepted it as such. It makes it difficult for a parent to teach "Self esteem" when the commercial music industry is ramming this (word withheld) down her throat.
I'm not trying to jump on some morality band wagon, I just think there are some misguided fuckheads sending the wrong messages to today's youth.
If you call a flamingo a duck, enough times, sooner or later it's going to start quacking.
And when boyfriends start crooning their girlfriends with shit like: "You be just da right bitch to suck my dick" And the female on the receiving end of this rubbish responds with nothing other than a giggle, We are in trouble.
Music can be a big influence in peoples lives, this list is a prime example. Look what it's done to KorgX3, he started eating that grotesque Chunky Chicken KoRn Chowder crap. Because of that, several police investigators are baffled as to the origin of the burnt residue coating the remains of two victims of what has been presumed to be spontaneous combustion.
On a lighter note:
Does anyone have any high-quality MP3's of gordion knot?
P.S. The daughter listens to a fair amount of prog, too. Unfortunately, NEVER when she has friends over. :-( Fucking peer pressure.
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:26:16 -0600 From: Dave Ware <dware@walker.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Females... oh, and that other little snippet of news... Message-ID: <82CD0BD64E68D211BDA00060975B3ACF033171@BHAM-XCHG1.immpower.com>
Hey,
I saw a band supporting Page and Plant last year, I think they (or she) was called Lili Hayden, She sang and played a very mean violin, kinda heavy, gothic, orchestral and celtic. Very good I thought.
Oh the other news...
> > January 18th, 1999 > For immediate release: > > Dream Theater changes keyboard player >
Fucking Hell.
Dave (a UK jammer - now in Alabama).
NP: Deep Purple - Made in Japan.
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:30:04 -0500 From: Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Gaz, you are *mistaken* Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990118173004.0069f51c@pop.usefulware.com>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
AyameYuki wrote: >dear gaz, i would like to point out that Manson is a GUY! his real name is >brian hugh warner!
dear AyameYuki, I would like to point out that Gaz was being *sarcastic*. If you had read just a bit further down on his post, you would have seen that the other "girl" he listed was Boy George.
Far be it from me to peer into the twisted workings of Gaz's mind, but I'd guess he was being a wiseass to try to illustrate how stupid this "women in music" thread is. Women are just as talented as men musically, I could cite dozens of examples without cudgeling my brain.
Moreover, Robert Heinlein said it best. Women give men a reason to exist. :)
ta, Phil
========================================================= Phil Carter -- phil@usefulware.com http://www.mindspring.com/~philcarter "Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." -- Berthold Auerbach
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:39:26 -0500 From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Official Dream Theater Press Release Message-ID: <002401be4333$67156100$3a1110ac@DEMCCOR.clemson.edu>
the header looks right, but consdiering the uproar we made before about that, if someone were to try and do it again i'm sure they'd be sure to make that look right too. i'd wait a bit and see if mike replies with the truth, or till we hear from someone in contact with him like itchy. too many people have complained asking for this for me to assume that it's not some imposter's wishful thinking. i'd say lets wait and see. moo.
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" When I feel like no one feels like what I say has any place in their world, I just like to point at them, laugh, and take off my pants." -KorgX3
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