YTSEJAM Digest 4607
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Need info on TLA show
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
2) Review on show yesterday?! and Progfest 97 cd
by "Lauzon, Gary: IHAB" <Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca>
3) 12 year old....
by "Jan Opsal" <janopsal@online.no>
4) Re: A rarely seen thought on the big news...
by Carlos Alfaro <progboy@mindless.com>
5) "DT99" recording style
by nmcwatters@Welcom.com
6) Re: Make it worth while...please.
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
7) raking the leaves
by "Frank Benenati" <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
8) Suckass
by szebro1@gl.umbc.edu
9) Max Headroom is annoying!!!!!!!!!
by "Dr. Bashir" <bushman2112@yahoo.com>
10) ZAPPA again?!!?!??!?
by John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
11) Re: Need info on TLA show
by JamesAhab@aol.com
12) how slow can a bus go and prbably one of the nicest Irish guys
by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
13) PEOPLE THAT WRITE IN ALL CAPS
by MaxArbot@aol.com
14) Jens
by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
15) DT's mind control techniques...
by MaxArbot@aol.com
16) Re: Tribute to Derek
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
17) Dizziness, Lucidity, Obedience :)
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:32:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
To: Jason Hartman <lhartm1@ds1.GL.UMBC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Need info on TLA show
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9901220831450.13239-100000@typhoon.ocis.temple.edu>
> Does anyone know anything about the LTE show Friday night at the TLA in
> Philly? What time do doors open? Is there an opening act? When will DT
> hit the stage? 18+? 21+? etc.
1. Doors open at 8.
2. No opening act.
3. beats the crap outta me.
4. Ticketmaster should tell you that.
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erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:34:00 -0500
From: "Lauzon, Gary: IHAB" <Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca>
To: "'DT'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Review on show yesterday?! and Progfest 97 cd
Message-ID: <199901221334.FAA14950@knight.axnet.net>
hey all!
I was wondering if anyone is going to post a review on the show of
yesterday? how long was it? how r the new songs for LTE 2?
also.. I got my hands on the Progfest 97 cd.. not bad at all.. but there is
something that's puzzling me..
The John Whitton Band.. the 3rd song on the cd... man. i don't remember the
name.. anyhow.. it sounds like a song I heard before.. and that i have at
home.. either from im guessing Flower King's .. but I could be wrong..
anyhow.. if anyone understands what I'm talking about.. they could answer
me.
Mr. Prog
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:26:33 +0100
From: "Jan Opsal" <janopsal@online.no>
To: "The YtseJam mailinglist" <ytsejam@axnet.net>, <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
Subject: 12 year old....
Message-ID: <000c01be460c$b77c96a0$afe74382@default>
It was HUMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR! He supplied a non-abrasive comeback and a =
smiley=20
face. How much clearer does it need to be for you, buddy?=20
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Sorry about that. I haven't read all the Jams lately
(they just keep comming!) and I was in a bad mood.
75% of what's in the Jam is flaming or oppinions that
some people yell out like they are the facts of life.
It just made me slightly irritated and I took it out on that
post without even reading what it was all about. sorry.
I'll read ALL the Jams before the next time I post.=20
Jonas Opsal
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My Dream Theater page:
http://home.sol.no/~janopsal/dt/
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:07:14 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <progboy@mindless.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: A rarely seen thought on the big news...
Message-ID: <36A89422.F89658E9@mindless.com>
ShadowBor@aol.com wrote:
> I offer two thoughts for reading:
> Although there may be more toit, they seem to have left on decent terms. At least it
> wasn't ugly like Van Halen and Sammy (although I guess we have yet to see that).
I agree with your post, and well id just like to make the observation that maybe
the fact that DT is not nearly as popular as VH greatly contributes on the whole thing
being low-key and not some bitter flameage between the band and derek or jordan and
derek ( im talking about them flaming each other not US ). If DT were say as popular
as VH, Aerosmith or even Metallica..the media woulve made it a lot uglier. All this
not considering of course that the guys in DT, Derek and Jordan may be professional
enough NOT to turn this into a Van Halen -like thing, which i think they are...i mean
if for example derek intended something like that, he woulve emailed here saying a
whole bunch of reasons ( real or real to him ) for his firing, and mike woulve
counterposted defending himself and the band... etc etc.. we of course (at least I )
would be even more dissapointed to see THAT, than to just have to wait for time to
clear things up....
"[...] people will cringe..." - John Petrucci
In the stream of consciousness
There is a river crying
Living comes much easier
Once we admit , We're dying.
Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
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mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:17:13 -0600
From: nmcwatters@Welcom.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: "DT99" recording style
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maX thus spewed:
> NOW, I am curious where it says DT99 will be written/recorded like
> LTE. I don't see it in the website. I just remember it being quoted
> several times.
]From www.dreamtheater.net (the Official DT Web Site) under News and
Information:
Dream Theater back in the studio in February
Added on 01-03-1999
Dream Theater will be back in the studio in February to work on a new album.
None of the "Falling Into Infinity" leftovers will be used, except for
possibly Metropolis part II. The band will be writing and recording
simultaniously (ala LTE). Unfortunately, Mike's project with Pete Trewavas
(Marillion) and Neal Morse (Spock's Beard) has been put on the shelf for the
time being.
Also from maX:
> Skadz? Are you reading this? Please remove Isaac Trumbo.
I don't think you should be the one asking to remove anyone else from the
list. Posting 7 times in one jam is not cool, dude. That goes for EVERYONE
who has an itchy trigger finger on the Send button.
About Jordan/Derek, I'm glad to see the change. As many of you know, I was
never thrilled with Derek from the beginning, both as a keyboardist and a
showman. I'm really looking forward to the next disc, which should really
get us back to the heart of what DT was intended to be. :)
Thought I'd be helpful,
Nicole/Kirby
P.S. Sorry about the MIME, there's nothing I can do about it. X-P
Nicole Stachowicz McWatters Technical Writer
aka Kirby on irc.dreamt.org Welcom Publications Dept.
ytsekirby@geocities.com -or- nmcwatters@welcom.com
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>maX thus spewed:</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>> NOW, I am curious where it =
says DT99 will be written/recorded like </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> LTE. I don't see it in the website. I just =
remember it being quoted</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> several times.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>]From www.dreamtheater.net (the Official DT Web Site) =
under News and Information:</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dream Theater back in the studio in February</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Added on 01-03-1999</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dream Theater will be back in the studio in February =
to work on a new album. None of the "Falling Into Infinity" =
leftovers will be used, except for possibly Metropolis part II. The =
band will be writing and recording simultaniously (ala LTE). =
Unfortunately, Mike's project with Pete Trewavas (Marillion) and Neal =
Morse (Spock's Beard) has been put on the shelf for the time =
being.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Also from maX:</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Skadz? Are you reading this? Please remove Isaac =
Trumbo.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I don't think you should be the one asking to remove =
anyone else from the list. Posting 7 times in one jam is not =
cool, dude. That goes for EVERYONE who has an itchy trigger =
finger on the Send button.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>About Jordan/Derek, I'm glad to see the change. =
As many of you know, I was never thrilled with Derek from the =
beginning, both as a keyboardist and a showman. I'm really =
looking forward to the next disc, which should really get us back to =
the heart of what DT was intended to be. :)</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thought I'd be helpful,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Nicole/Kirby</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>P.S. Sorry about the MIME, there's nothing I can do =
about it. X-P</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Nicole Stachowicz McWatters =
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:26:45 -0500 (EST)
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Dave Ware wrote:
>
That was an EOJ?????? WHOOHOO!!!! MY first one! Sweat me NOW!
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:29:53 -0500
> From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
Actually,
I thought that was quite funny. I started imagining Derek out raking the
Priceless.
- m o j o m a n
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:33:22 -0500 (EST)
> BTW how do you suck ass??:-)
Ask that Isaac Trumbo guy. I bet he's an expert.
Steve Z
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 07:38:49 -0800 (PST)
>Maybe I'll unsub. I dunno. I unsubbed from TaDream >because of that.
>-maX
Please do us all a favor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:11:07 -0800 (PST)
Hey guys and gals. I know we have talked about Zappa's music here
Plus if you haven't picked up Mike Keneally & BFD's Sluggo, you need
Later all
==
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:06:09 EST
>< > Does anyone know anything about the LTE show Friday night at the TLA in
The ticket says the show starts at 9.
Jim
OxyMoron of the day: Microsoft Works
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:17:37 PST
hi there, Bowery Ballroom, my diary.
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:18:35 EST
I wonder if the people who always write in all caps (Tokugawa Tigger-ette
Ah...I feel better.
[eriC]
p.s. Kinda ironic that I had to use caps to bash the all caps people, isn't
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:20:31 PST
Hi there; Jens answered
Wow, well spotted! I knew the YJ crowd to be a sophisticated and
Wellllll, my only excuse is that I hadn't yet perfected the quantum
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:29:09 EST
David_Cuthbert@Interflora.CCMAIL.compuserve.com writes:
<< Has DT started putting subliminal messages onto its CD's >>
They've been doing it for as long as they've been recording albums (and
[eriC]
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:30:22 -0500 (EST)
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, CyberDuke wrote:
> Now when Derek is gone I think it would be cool and very worthy to
That is a FABULOUS idea! I have NEVER heard a Nightmare Cinema, at all,
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:34:25 +0000
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Hey Max!!!! TAKE....A....PILL! Consolidate the verbal diarrhea into less
Nevertheless, Max steps up to the plate without a bat or even a helmet:
Here? Does this mean that there are perhaps some Max-Verran-Sanctioned
> I'm going to your house to rape your sister.
This is not funny. This is an amateur attempt at humor. It fails
> Lars Hellsten gargled the algae he sucked out of his fishtank:
On the upside (amazing there is one, eh?), I thought that was rather
Now go sit down, Max, have a glass of warm milk, think things over,
> Maybe I'll unsub. I dunno. I unsubbed from TaDream because of that.
Thanks for the heads up on that, Max. I'll update my schedule database
> Mats:
Fear not, JP's beats/minute are just too fast!! Velocity is an important
Neil opens my eyes wide:
Bravo!! That was lucid thinking!
IMO, the only thing I'd change is the phrase "Success will come" to
For those of you who STILL insist on disobeying me by not signing onto
Regards,
"The computer can't tell you the emotional story. It can
give you the exact mathematical design, but what's missing
is the eyebrows." -- Frank Zappa
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]From: Jon Finn <jon@jonfinn.com>
Subject: Upcoming Shows - Jon Finn Group
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Hi!
I was in a rather confusing conversation recently. I thought the guy was
trying to convince me that guitarists who study formally couldn't play the
blues or with feelings. Turns out all he wanted to know was whether
"Feelings" was a blues tune.
hmmmm.....
Anyway, here are some of our upcoming shows. If any of them are in your
hemisphere we'd love to see you. And Yes. Wicked will be available for
sale at the show
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Sat., Jan 23 Shenendoah University (Armstrong Hall) Winchester, VA
4:00 guitar clinic by Jon
Free admission!!!
8:00 concert
$2:00 for Shenendoah students,
$8.00 for general public. All ages welcome
call the Shenendoah box office at 540-665-4569
(MC, Visa)
Thurs., Jan 28, 1999 Johnny D's Somerville, MA
(17 Holland St.) 617-776-2004
NOTE: this date has been posted as wed., Jan 27. It was moved!
Thurs., Feb 25 Slattery's Fitchburg, MA
106 Lunenburg St. Fitchburg 978-342-8880
Take Rt. 2 to Rt. 13 north to Rt. 2a west. Follow 1.5 miles. Club is on right.
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From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Make it worth while...please.
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.990122102549.11919J-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
> Guys,
>
> >From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
> >To: TheListFromTheDepthsOfHell <ytsejam@axnet.net>
> >Subject: Flame-fest
>
> This was soooo on the money - nice one, in fact possibly one of the top
> EOJ's I've ever seen. I would like to add to the whole flame thing
"aaaayyyyyy..............you broke your cherry.........."
From: "Frank Benenati" <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: raking the leaves
Message-ID: <000501be461c$0e8e7bc0$6a88abc7@fmb.newsalert.com>
>
> On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Isaac Trumbo wrote:
>
> > support!! ha!!!! support a rake up your ass you fucking bastard!!
>
> Skadz: Do something!:-)
>
> This is getting out of hand...
>
fall leaves. He's wearing his see-thru shirt, his vinyl/leather pants and
his "I think I'm Bono" sunglasses. Then he pulls out the gardening shears.
Tears a hole in his shinny pants and shoves his rake into his
chocy-starfish. Once he's got it all snug and fit properly, he continues
raking the lawn.
From: szebro1@gl.umbc.edu
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Suckass
Message-ID: <199901221533.KAA275605@gl.umbc.edu>
From: "Dr. Bashir" <bushman2112@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Max Headroom is annoying!!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <19990122153849.24913.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com>
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
From: John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam dream theater <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: ZAPPA again?!!?!??!?
Message-ID: <19990122161107.22541.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com>
before, and after recently picking up Mike Keneally's & Beer For
Dolphins, Sluggo album I have been wanting to check more of Zappa's
stuff out. I already have Zoot Allures and Sleep Dirt. I know that
Mike Portnoy said that he got into Zappa because of the weird time
Sigs. My question; which albums contain these weird time sigs. I do
like both of the above mentioned albums by Zappa. So point me in the
right direction. I want to assume that the albums that Vinnie
Colliuta(sp?) and Chad Wackerman played on would have some interesting
time sigs.
to. Very good stuff if your not in the 'mood' for prog-metal.
John
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
From: JamesAhab@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Need info on TLA show
Message-ID: <8ad62457.36a8a1f1@aol.com>
> Philly? What time do doors open? Is there an opening act? When will DT
> hit the stage? 18+? 21+? etc.
1. Doors open at 8.
2. No opening act.
3. beats the crap outta me.
4. Ticketmaster should tell you that. ><
From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: how slow can a bus go and prbably one of the nicest Irish guys
Message-ID: <19990122161738.10213.qmail@hotmail.com>
I'm taking the bus from NJ, should take 30 min. max. The driver decides
to chat and chat and drive as slowly as possible without endangering his
health. Took us 45 min. Well, I arrive in time to see, fuck, they have
T-shirts(I don't have money, damnit). Well, I give my coat away and spot
d-man, nice surprise, later Christina who apparently got kicked by
Jordan("He kicks my ass"), but didn't hurt her knee.
You people who were complaining about not having shows in your area?
You did the right thing, because this kicked ass. THere were about 250
people in the club(my guess) which was really cool, 'cause when people
just spoke a little louder he was audible to the band(Somebody:"You
really kick ass" JP shyly(sp?)"Thanks")
The guys enter the stage, Jordan gets a "welcome to DT" looks really
friendly and from the whole show I get the impression that he's one of
the nicest guys you could hang out with. Not heavy enough for DT? Listen
to the new LTE stuff and think again. JP was a little shaky in the
ballads and again I must say, when he improvises fastly, I don't like it
anymore, he tries to get too many notes in no time.I feel like Crang
going:"Shredder".Tony Levin enters the stage, I go, holy cow(maybe Satch
should hire him and start a Hair band:). He was so cool. Jordan played a
nice solo btw, where we could see what he might add: sounds. Luckily I
could stay until they were done although I guess they were signing stuff
afterwards, right?
Mike, you were good,too, as always. People that was awesome. But
Mike(portnoy), I still want one of those shirts!!!
seb
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From: MaxArbot@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: PEOPLE THAT WRITE IN ALL CAPS
Message-ID: <1532c3c1.36a8a4db@aol.com>
<eernewe1@gnofn.org>, for example) realize that it is harder to read all
capital letters than it is to read "normal" capitalization. Just for future
reference TURN OFF YOUR DAMN CAPS LOCK!!
it?
From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Jens
Message-ID: <19990122162031.9792.qmail@hotmail.com>
intelligent bunch -- but this *really* takes the cake!! Ouch! Guilty as
charged!! Not copying very well!? It's not fair, if you guys continue to
be
this mean to me I'll have to unsubscribe. ;)
tunneling process I used to peek into the future, that's why it sounds a
little shoddy... and if you don't like this explanation, you can flame
me
all you like, you pathetic little whiners, and then you can fuck right
off
the surface of the planet!! (heh heh... a little joke here. :))
/////
I just hope that David got what you wrote,this was so funny. Btw, I got
Destiny today, after I ordered it from CDnow in August...
Later
seb
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From: MaxArbot@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: DT's mind control techniques...
Message-ID: <8f018943.36a8a755@aol.com>
demos). They're called 32nd, 64th and 128th notes ;o)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Tribute to Derek
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990122112911.26946A-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
> collect all Nightmare Cinema and Nicky Lemons songs available, put 'em
> on MP3s and upload them somewhere (best if it would be one site).
>
> Derek site already exists so it is a candidate but I'm not the person to
> ask! :) Christina ....?
and I would LOVE to hear it! If there were MP3s of it posted, I would
have them downloaded as soon as possible!
Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu
http://oz.plymouth.edu/~a_couter/
ICQ: 2513441
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From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
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than 50 posts per day, pooch!
> And if anyone calles their music shit here,
places for calling their music shit?
miserably. If I had a sister, I'm sure she'd be more than happy to hand
you what's left of your tiny appendage to you in a dixie cup.
funny :)
discover what a naughty boy you can be sometimes, modify the behavior.
This way, when you come back, we'll more refined material of yours to
laugh at...
appropriately....and quickly! Take care :)
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> >I fear that DT as a whole might lose
> >momentum, direction, and eventually success.
component of momentum. Related to this somehow is 'inertia' which tends
to allow someting to maintain direction :)
> I'd let DT worry about DT's career and success. I think making any
> drastic
> change shows a great degree of momentum and direction. Clearly the band
> is
> being aggressive about shaping what will be the future of DT. A lack of
> direction would be characterized by complacency. Success will come with
> great songwriting and playing, regardless of whether DT leans more or
less
> to the "progressive". A conscious attempt to be successful is often the
> nail in the coffin.
"Continued success will come". IMO they're already successfull, and it's
recognized out there in many forms (for example: Mike on the cover of
Modern Drummer, other highly respected musicians playing with them,
rabid fan base :), not too shabby a set of number in record sales
considering the genre as a whole).
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his mailing list, you force me to forward this update from Jon Finn :)))
Jon
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